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https://www.guru3d.com/review/core-ultra-5-250k-and-7-270k-plus-processor-review/

Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus Review - Intel's Fastest Gaming CPU

The Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is a game-changer, featuring more cores and larger caches while cutting the launch price to just $300. In gaming, it outperformed all non-X3D Ryzen CPUs, and application performance is impressive as well, matching the much pricier Ryzen 9 9950X.

www.techpowerup.com

Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus review: Back from the brink

Unbelievable productivity performance at an even more unbelievable price – shame gaming still takes a backseat.

www.tomshardware.com

Vier zusätzliche Kerne und etwas Software-Magie: Intel Core Ultra 200S Plus im Test - Hardwareluxx

Vier zusätzliche Kerne und etwas Software-Magie: Intel Core Ultra 200S Plus im Test.

www.hardwareluxx.de

 

[Holammer]

I'll check out the video with the least offensive soy face thumbnail.
Well played Gamers Nexus

 

[Smiggs]

Looks like Intel has a real winner here. Good for them! Hopefully they can keep this moving and come up with a real Ryzen killer at some point.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Requires a new motherboard though.

 

[Kilau]

 

[Zathalus]

In a vacuum pretty good CPUs for the price. But with the current memory pricing and the fact that Intel is launching a much better platform next year, probably not something worth upgrading to.

 

[moogman]

Good to see intel back, bad time to buy due to the MB being end of life but they can build on this.

Also, the 5800X3D was crazy value - 4 years old now, and hanging on near the top for gaming.

 

[//DEVIL//]

I don't see how this is a good CPU. Gaming wise it's to getting it's ass fucked.

Not only that. They also require a new motherboard. Where you can still put the fastest gaming amd CPU in a b650e board.


You would think that Intel would do something on a new socket and after penetration they got from AMD but nope. I guess they like how it felt getting screwed

 

[Hoddi]

I'll check out the video with the least offensive soy face thumbnail.
Well played Gamers Nexus

OC3D doesn't even plaster a face on their thumbnail. That alone warrants a click.

 

[OverHeat]

Another round of weak ass gaming cpu from Intel

 

[Nvzman]

I don't see how this is a good CPU. Gaming wise it's to getting it's ass fucked.

Not only that. They also require a new motherboard. Where you can still put the fastest gaming amd CPU in a b650e board.


You would think that Intel would do something on a new socket and after penetration they got from AMD but nope. I guess they like how it felt getting screwed

The fastest gaming AMD CPU is fucking terrible value, that's why. You're getting assfucked by prices over what is usually only SLIGHTLY more frames at 1440p and 4K. The 9850x3d is like $500 (which, for an 8-core part, is laughable) which is offensively pricey considering these brand new Intel CPUs are faster at anything that isn't gaming and you can buy a board and the CPU itself for cheaper than the X3D by itself. Prior to the RAM-pocalypse you were able to buy a 265K + board + RAM for like $400 total which was cheaper than the 9800x3d by itself.

I really really hate seeing the "oh but X3D is better" shit, I have an AM5 PC and it really is true that, the non-x3D chips are mediocre at best, and the X3D CPUs are extremely overrated by the simple fact that they've almost always been terrible value. They're the fastest at the cost of being so expensive they're poor value anyway. Intel has consistently been the better value buy since Alder Lake at minimum.

 

[winjer]

The fastest gaming AMD CPU is fucking terrible value, that's why. You're getting assfucked by prices over what is usually only SLIGHTLY more frames at 1440p and 4K. The 9850x3d is like $500 (which, for an 8-core part, is laughable) which is offensively pricey considering these brand new Intel CPUs are faster at anything that isn't gaming and you can buy a board and the CPU itself for cheaper than the X3D by itself. Prior to the RAM-pocalypse you were able to buy a 265K + board + RAM for like $400 total which was cheaper than the 9800x3d by itself.

I really really hate seeing the "oh but X3D is better" shit, I have an AM5 PC and it really is true that, the non-x3D chips are mediocre at best, and the X3D CPUs are extremely overrated by the simple fact that they've almost always been terrible value. They're the fastest at the cost of being so expensive they're poor value anyway. Intel has consistently been the better value buy since Alder Lake at minimum.

The 9800X3D is already at 420$. The 9850x3d is just an OC version of it, that is not worth it. Especially considering that the 9800X3D has an unlocked multiplier.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D hits new all-time low of $419

 

[falling into hell]

Why do people always need to look like retards in these youtube thumbnails?

 

[Nvzman]

The 9800X3D is already at 420$. The 9850x3d is just an OC version of it, that is not worth it. Especially considering that the 9800X3D has an unlocked multiplier.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D hits new all-time low of $419

... and this new Intel 270k is $300. This doesn't change the fact that its still insanely overpriced.
Arrow Lake plus the refresh does have the point against it that its not going to support Nova Lake, but if you were looking to build a new PC now (despite RAM hell), its not like a 270k is going to have a worse lifespan than a 9800x3D. By the time you'd want to upgrade, AM5 would be long dead. I'm still rocking a 13700k + 4080 on my 3+ year old main gaming PC and feel zero reason to upgrade to anything.

 

[Katatonic]

Why do people always need to look like retards in these youtube thumbnails?

Analytics show It appeals to their target audience..

 

[winjer]

... and this new Intel 270k is $300. This doesn't change the fact that its still insanely overpriced.
Arrow Lake plus the refresh does have the point against it that its not going to support Nova Lake, but if you were looking to build a new PC now (despite RAM hell), its not like a 270k is going to have a worse lifespan than a 9800x3D. By the time you'd want to upgrade, AM5 would be long dead. I'm still rocking a 13700k + 4080 on my 3+ year old main gaming PC and feel zero reason to upgrade to anything.

But if you want the best gaming CPU, the only choice is the 9800X3D. Intel has nothing that even comes close. FFS, the lows of a 9800X3D are almost as high as the average of a 270K.
AM5 still has one more gen ahead. At least. And that one will also have it's own X3D part, which will increase the lead to the 270K, even further.

 

[Puscifer]

Good to see intel back, bad time to buy due to the MB being end of life but they can build on this.

Also, the 5800X3D was crazy value - 4 years old now, and hanging on near the top for gaming.

Hell if you live near a Microcenter you can snag a 5700x3D with 95% of the performance for cheaper. If you bought that CPU you stay winning lol.

Holding onto my 7800x3D for dear life.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I'm still happy with my 5800x3d. It's the new 2500k and I'll ride it for like 5 more years lol

 

[Nvzman]

But if you want the best gaming CPU, the only choice is the 9800X3D. Intel has nothing that even comes close. FFS, the lows of a 9800X3D are almost as high as the average of a 270K.
AM5 still has one more gen ahead. At least. And that one will also have it's own X3D part, which will increase the lead to the 270K, even further.

What the actual fanboy-smoking-crack level of shit are you typing? Its, at best (in real-world gaming), not even 10% faster for $120+ more money. Its objectively worse value. Additionally, some games (like Indiana Jones) x3D performs worse than Intel.

AMD drones remind me of Xbox fanboys where they say the most outlandish, false shit to make themselves feel better. X3D being poor value is the biggest argument against it, theres really no debate. X3D is ONLY worth it if you have no budget.

 

[winjer]

What the actual fanboy-smoking-crack level of shit are you typing? Its, at best (in real-world gaming), not even 10% faster for $120+ more money. Its objectively worse value. Additionally, some games (like Indiana Jones) x3D performs worse than Intel.

AMD drones remind me of Xbox fanboys where they say the most outlandish, false shit to make themselves feel better. X3D being poor value is the biggest argument against it, theres really no debate. X3D is ONLY worth it if you have no budget.

Just to consider that you need to create a GPU bottleneck, at 4K to pretend the frame rate is similar.
No one uses native 4K on an age of DLSS4 and FSR4.
And you still have the nerve to call other people fanboys, when you have to pick a specific scenario to make your point.

 

[Thebonehead]

Not bad Intel, not great mind you... but not bad.

Will be interesting to see how Nova Lake stacks up with their take on 3d cache, although I hope they can get the rumoured power draw down

 

[Pokedot]

AMD doesn't have to release a new CPU for the next 3 years and Intel still won't catch up to the 9800X3D

 

[//DEVIL//]

The fastest gaming AMD CPU is fucking terrible value, that's why. You're getting assfucked by prices over what is usually only SLIGHTLY more frames at 1440p and 4K. The 9850x3d is like $500 (which, for an 8-core part, is laughable) which is offensively pricey considering these brand new Intel CPUs are faster at anything that isn't . gaming and you can buy a board and the CPU itself for cheaper than the X3D by itself. Prior to the RAM-pocalypse you were able to buy a 265K + board + RAM for like $400 total which was cheaper than the 9800x3d by itself.

I really really hate seeing the "oh but X3D is better" shit, I have an AM5 PC and it really is true that, the non-x3D chips are mediocre at best, and the X3D CPUs are extremely overrated by the simple fact that they've almost always been terrible value. They're the fastest at the cost of being so expensive they're poor value anyway. Intel has consistently been the better value buy since Alder Lake at minimum.

First of all calm down, it's not your ass that is getting fucked unless you have stock in Intel ?

Second, the 9800x3d is 450$ not 500$ today. Compared to the that of intel at 300$. This is 50% more expensive for about 15% more performance.

And while this does sound like a terrible value, when you are really a building a gaming pc that is towards mid to high end, that 150$ means nothing. Especially considering you don't have to buy a motherboard too unless you are completely new. On top of that the x3d will always have a better resale value.

This is like saying the 5090 has a terrible value. Yet it's the only card that is always sold out. If I am gonna settle for mid range, I won't buy the 9800x3d in the first place, I will buy the Ryzen 5 9600X for about 180$. That is 120$ cheaper than this shit ultra 7 270k and still 7% higher fps on average.

Next time do some math or at least look at the graphs in the first friggin post before you quote and type nonsense lol

 

[Leonidas]

But if you want the best gaming CPU, the only choice is the 9800X3D. Intel has nothing that even comes close.

That's not true, an overclocked 265K is on par with 9800X3D (stock) in gaming. I'd argue Arrow Lake is the better platform for people who are into tuning. I'd much rather pay $300 and do DRAM overclocking to become on par with a stock X3D in gaming (while destroying it in MT) than pay 40-67% more for only 8 Cores.

9800X3D is the last time AMD will get away with charging such high prices for only 8 Cores.

AMD doesn't have to release a new CPU for the next 3 years and Intel still won't catch up to the 9800X3D

Nova Lake will have over 100 MB of cache on some SKUs and will likely see an X3D-like gaming performance increase. This could happen later this year (or early next year).

 

[Nvzman]

Just to consider that you need to create a GPU bottleneck, at 4K to pretend the frame rate is similar.
No one uses native 4K on an age of DLSS4 and FSR4.
And you still have the nerve to call other people fanboys, when you have to pick a specific scenario to make your point.

Dude did not read the fact that it's "minimum" fps readings (which is the point), not the average framerate. 4K is still more realistic than 1080p for gaming as upscaling is still more expensive than native lower res gaming. My other pic was 1440p as well. Nice cherry-picking.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

I don't trust Intel with a platform, sorry. Those shaved dollars probably will still be wasted on a dead-end socket.

But good to see at least some dynamics in hardware space, GPU market is getting comical thanks to AMD standstill.

 

[//DEVIL//]

That's not true, an overclocked 265K is on par with 9800X3D (stock) in gaming. I'd argue Arrow Lake is the better platform for people who are into tuning. I'd much rather pay $300 and do DRAM overclocking to become on par with a stock X3D in gaming (while destroying it in MT) than pay 40-67% more for only 8 Cores.

9800X3D is the last time AMD will get away with charging such high prices for only 8 Cores.

Nova Lake will have over 100 MB of cache on some SKUs and will likely see an X3D-like gaming performance increase. This could happen later this year (or early next year).

I am sorry but this is funny. Yes lets overclock an Intel CPU to the max and to potentially degrade the CPU to oblivion. It's not like Intel has a history of CPU degradation.

People really don't learn...

Worried about how many CPU cores it has when it's beating the living crap out of every game against Intel with more than double the cores ..

This is like people thinking floating points is the best way to measure a GPU performance..Jesus

 

[Nvzman]

This is like saying the 5090 has a terrible value. Yet it's the only card that is always sold out. If I am gonna settle for mid range, I won't buy the 9800x3d in the first place, I will buy the Ryzen 5 9600X for about 180$. That is 120$ cheaper than this shit ultra 7 270k and still 7% higher fps on average.

Next time do some math or at least look at the graphs in the first friggin post before you quote and type nonsense lol

It's a price-to-performance chart, not an actual framerate chart, you clearly did not read it lmfao. That does not chart to 7% better fps, it's that for $180 its 7% better performance to price. Trying to insult me but failing to correctly read a chart is hysterical. You are probably the last person that should be typing like you know anything tech.

This is proving my point of being delusional.

 

[deriks]

Nice, but AMD still has the better cost

 

[Leonidas]

I am sorry but this is funny. Yes lets overclock an Intel CPU to the max and ote potentially lly degrade the cpu to oblivion. It's not like Intel has a history of cpu degradation.

With 270K Plus you wouldn't need to overclock the CPU to match 9800X3D. You'd just need RAM tuning. I've seen 20% performance improvement in some games from only RAM tuning on Arrow Lake. There is no risk of degradation if you know what you're doing.

 

[//DEVIL//]

It's a price-to-performance chart, not an actual framerate chart, you clearly did not read it lmfao. That does not chart to 7% better fps, it's that for $180 its 7% better performance to price. Trying to insult me but failing to correctly read a chart is hysterical.

This is proving my point of being delusional.

Ops yeah I read the chart wrong lol. Sorry not a peasant to worry about shit CPUs.

Anyway not the point. Eh you are correct about the 9600x. It should be 9700x .. which is same performance in gaming but 10$ cheaper.

Yeah I will stick with AMD sorry.

 

[Nvzman]

Ops yeah I read the chart wrong lol. Sorry not a peasant to worry about shit CPUs.

Anyway not the point. Eh you are correct about the 9600x. It should be 9700x .. which is same performance in gaming but 10$ cheaper.

Yeah I will stick would stick with AMD sorry.

You're just posting a shitload of incorrect information (9700x performs much worse than most newer Intel parts at both gaming and productivity while currently $120 more than the 9600x on Amazon... data doesn't lie), so at this point I'm just going to assume you're ragebaiting or a moron, and I'll move on with my day. You don't even understand the cpu degradation issue correctly.

Again, AMD drones are delusional. Just nonsense information.

 

[GymWolf]

Great, now i only need to find a way to mount it on my 13600k socket without changing mobo.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Why do people always need to look like retards in these youtube thumbnails?

Unfortunately it's proven to increase engagement on YouTube.

 

[Bojji]

Great, now i only need to find a way to mount it on my 13600k socket without changing mobo.

 

[SmokSmog]

Nothing interesting, just rebranded 285K for half the price. Single Nova Lake's chiplet with 8+16 config, AVX10.2, APX, bLLC will mop the floor with 270K Plus. Nova Lake-S is coming Q4 this year or early 2027 (CES 2027).

 

[Buggy Loop]

In a vacuum pretty good CPUs for the price. But with the current memory pricing and the fact that Intel is launching a much better platform next year, probably not something worth upgrading to.

Yea, on 5800X3D right now which I'm not complaining about but DDR 5 prices means I am not looking to upgrade anytime soon.

Seems Intel is clawing its way back up a bit which is good news.

I also wish they would promise at one point to freeze the socket for a couple of generations. This is currently AMD's biggest advantage imo. AM4 was insanely good.

 

[winjer]

Yea, on 5800X3D right now which I'm not complaining about but DDR 5 prices means I am not looking to upgrade anytime soon.

Seems Intel is clawing its way back up a bit which is good news.

I also wish they would promise at one point to freeze the socket for a couple of generations. This is currently AMD's biggest advantage imo. AM4 was insanely good.

I'm also on a 5800X3D and tunned 3800MTs ram. It runs everything really well.
Considering how bad the DDR5 prices are right now, I hve no reason to upgrade.

 

[StereoVsn]

Great, now i only need to find a way to mount it on my 13600k socket without changing mobo.

Dremel + SuperGlue!

Processors seem decent for the price overall and also seem to be good for productivity. For pure gaming 9800x3D is still better of course but unless you are running a 5090/4090 you are probably much more GPU limited either way.

The biggest issue is socket support longevity. I have a 7800x3D and i am fairly certain I will be able to upgrade to 10800x3D (or whatever the name) on my AM5 670e chipset board.

For Intel users, not so much.

 

[//DEVIL//]

You're just posting a shitload of incorrect information (9700x performs much worse than most newer Intel parts at both gaming and productivity while currently $120 more than the 9600x on Amazon... data doesn't lie), so at this point I'm just going to assume you're ragebaiting or a moron, and I'll move on with my day. You don't even understand the cpu degradation issue correctly.

Again, AMD drones are delusional. Just nonsense information.

Lol at name-calling because you are pissed.

I just posted based on the data that you are blind to even see. The 9700x performance is 1 fps/same performance on average compared to 270k. While 10$ cheaper. And you don't have to buy a new board even.

It's bad enough you are crying and cussing because everyone is mopping the floor with your face. But then again, this is nothing new.
An AMD CPU from 2024 is still same level in gaming as Intel newest CPU in 2026. Lol

 

[//DEVIL//]

I'm also on a 5800X3D and tunned 3800MTs ram. It runs everything really well.
Considering how bad the DDR5 prices are right now, I hve no reason to upgrade.

5800x3d is about the same performance as 7700x.

This is a friggin great CPU. And if you gaming at 4k, then the CPU upgrade can wait till the ram prices go down a little

 

[winjer]

5800x3d is about the same performance as 7700x.

This is a friggin great CPU. And if you gaming at 4k, then the CPU upgrade can wait till the ram prices go down a little

At this rate, if what memory manufacturers say is true, that this memory scarcity will last until 2030, then I'll probably just wait for AM6 and DDR6.

 

[//DEVIL//]

At this rate, if what memory manufacturers say is true, that this memory scarcity will last until 2030, then I'll probably just wait for AM6 and DDR6.

I dunno. its already not increasing in price. so that is a good thing. But i am seriously hoping it will stop soon because at this rate the 6090 will be 16gb lol.

 

[Leonidas]

Lol at calling names because you are crying .

I just posted based on the date above . The 9700x performance is 1 fps on average higher than 270k.

Bad enough you are crying and cussing because everyone is mobling the floor with your face. But then again, this is nothing new.

On the same page they also show this

I wouldn't be arguing over 1% in either direction. What is worth mentioning is the fact that the 270K is sometimes 85% faster in MT vs. the similarly priced 9700X, that's something you definitely will notice if you do more than just gaming on your PC.

An AMD CPU from 2024 is still same level in gaming as Intel newest CPU in 2026. Lol

An overclocked Intel CPU from 2024 (265K MAX-OC) is on par with an AMD X3D CPU from 2026. I'd say Intel arguably has the better gaming architecture today. Comparing non3D to non3D they are virtually tied, but it does seem Arrow Lake has the edge when it comes to enthusiast overclocking.

 

[//DEVIL//]

On the same page they also show this

I wouldn't be arguing over 1% in either direction. What is worth mentioning is the fact that the 270K is sometimes 85% faster in MT vs. the similarly priced 9700X, that's something you definitely will notice if you do more than just gaming on your PC.


An overclocked Intel CPU from 2024 (265K MAX-OC) is on par with an AMD X3D CPU from 2026. I'd say Intel arguably has the better gaming architecture today. Comparing non3D to non3D they are virtually tied, but it does seem Arrow Lake has the edge when it comes to enthusiast overclocking.

Of course its pointless to argue about anything 5% or below (to be honest, even at 10% i personally wouldnt even care. Considering this is all at full HD, and unless you are really on a budget PC that game at full HD, you wouldnt be looking at these CPUs in the first place.)

About the OC, the same can be said when you OC an AMD CPU; AMD will always come at the top with these CPUs.

regardless. I consider myself a high-end PC gaming user with a 5090 Suprim and 9800x 3D. I never once thought about OC my CPU, just out of the box experience.

CPUs are one thing I do not touch. I dont want a burn hole socket or CPU degradation. Both are risky ( even if they are better now compared to how they were last year in terms of OC, i will still not touch it. ).

out of the box experience for me at this point, AMD wins by a long margin. better cpu, no need to upgrade motherboards, better resale value etc.

I really do want Intel to compete. if anything, I am pro Intel ( I was using Intel only before the X3D, and i hated everything AMD even. to this day I don't touched their GPU and looks like I will never do. But this CPU is not it. It's like 4 years since the first X3D CPU was released, if not 5 years. And Intel is still stubborn on going their own shit way.

They're gonna go out of the CPU market or die at this rate. the sales of this is gonna be very shit ( especially that you need to buy a motherboard + the ram / nvme situation.. yeah its not gonna fly )

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Good to see Intel has some competitive products at a reasonable price, AMD has been getting too complacent. Still prefer X3D for gaming and think it's worth the premium if you are going to stick with it long term, but these are not bad alternatives if you're willing to give up some performance and energy utilization.

I'd really like to see an Intel stacked cache offering. The benefits for certain games like BG3 are too good to ignore.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

all this time and intel's answer to amd x3d is just a lower price

 

[Leonidas]

About the OC, the same can be said when you OC an AMD CPU; AMD will always come at top with these CPUs.

I don't think I've seen anyone OC a 9700X to be on par with a 9800X3D.
265K can. And the 270K as well (and it will be easier for the 270K to match it)

I'm not sure how much headroom there is on X3D CPUs for overclocking, would overclocked X3D beat overclocked Arrow Lake? Probably, but you'd be paying a lot more to do so...

CPUs are one thing I do not touch. I dont want a burn in the hole socket or CPU degradation. Both are risky ( even if they are better than how they were last year in terms of OC, i will still not touch it. ).

People have burned holes in sockets running X3D CPUs stock.

Overclocking is not risky if you know what you're doing. I am surprised how many people don't even consider overclocking, back in the day 2500K-4770K it was very popular among enthusiasts, even Ryzen 1000 reviews regularly mentioned overclocking since you could take 1700 up to 1800X... nowadays some of you guys are cowards in regards to overclocking.

out of the box experience for me at this point, AMD wins by a long margin.

270K and 9700X is same gaming, with 270K destroying 9700X in MT...

AMD only wins if you pay exorbitant prices for 8 or 16 Cores.

 

[moogman]

... and this new Intel 270k is $300. This doesn't change the fact that its still insanely overpriced.
Arrow Lake plus the refresh does have the point against it that its not going to support Nova Lake, but if you were looking to build a new PC now (despite RAM hell), its not like a 270k is going to have a worse lifespan than a 9800x3D. By the time you'd want to upgrade, AM5 would be long dead. I'm still rocking a 13700k + 4080 on my 3+ year old main gaming PC and feel zero reason to upgrade to anything.

Buying an AM5 motherboard now is probably a bad idea, but upgrading the CPU at the end of the AM5 cycle isn't bad value at all if you're already on that platform.

AM4 was released in 2016, and my 5800X3D is a top 10 CPU for gaming on the same motherboard and RAM as I started with. I'll upgrade for AM6, and will look to do the same for the next 7 to 10 years.

 

[//DEVIL//]

People have burned holes in sockets running X3D CPUs stock.

Overclocking is not risky if you know what you're doing. I am surprised how many people don't even consider overclocking, back in the day 2500K-4770K it was very popular among enthusiasts, even Ryzen 1000 reviews regularly mentioned overclocking since you could take 1700 up to 1800X... nowadays some of you guys are cowards in regards to overclocking.



270K and 9700X is same gaming, with 270K destroying 9700X in MT...

AMD only wins if you pay exorbitant prices for 8 or 16 Cores.

I know about the burned holes in the socket was an AMD thing . I was just making a point in general I dont do over clocking because I dont want a hole or cpu degradation.

as for why people dont do it, because personally, I am not competing for a high score on a leaderboard. And it's even less important in 4k and even 2k gaming to a degee.

just adding more heat, wattage, and stress for barely anything outside of maybe full HD gaming ( which I dont assume people buying these CPUs even game at full HD ).

And yes, the 270k destroys the 9700xt in MT. But then I wouldn't buy either CPU for MT in the first place if this was my goal. We are only talking about gaming here.