Intel Arc B580 review thread

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Gaiff

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Embargo is up lads. Some major outlets have already given their takes.

















I will update the OP over the next few days.
 
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-arc-b580/

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i'm pretty excited for this. it's tempting to put together a low cost box with it, but I want to see if there's a B7xx card coming.
 
HogIsland said:
i'm pretty excited for this. it's tempting to put together a low cost box with it, but I want to see if there's a B7xx card coming.
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Power consumption is quite a bit higher than I would like. 195W vs 168W for the 4060 Ti that's still 15% faster. The efficiency is better than Ampere but worse than Lovelace and more in line with RDNA3 which is almost 2 years old now.
 
So basically a RTX 3060ti performance. Pretty good.
 
cyberheater said:
So basically a RTX 3060ti performance. Pretty good.
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After seeing a couple of reviews, in some games it matches the RTX 4060Ti. Though they do admit that Nvidia's DLSS is still better than Intel's XeSS in about everything.

At 1080p -> 4k XeSS turned on you'll be able to get 60fps in some games but most just miss that mark. I'm sure driver updates can fix that.

But at native 1440p, it more than often hits 60fps. So if you did XeSS 1080p -> 1440p with RT on, you'll still have a decent time.
 
Well i'll be damned. Intel's out here saving the PC gaming industry.

I can see these flying off the shelves next year when tariffs drive up the price of most other GPUs to insane prices- the 3060 might be dethroned in steam surveys soon....
 
Gaiff said:
Power consumption is quite a bit higher than I would like. 195W vs 168W for the 4060 Ti that's still 15% faster. The efficiency is better than Ampere but worse than Lovelace and more in line with RDNA3 which is almost 2 years old now.
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Yep.

We will see if it likes to be undervolted, but overall that aspect is a bit disappointing.

Switching from Samsung to TSMC for Lovelace helped a lot, but still, the architecture is very efficient indeed.
 
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Gaiff said:
Power consumption is quite a bit higher than I would like.
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It's intel bro, you should've expected this

Either way, the card still kicks ass so far from what we've seen. If they come out with a B780 that's 400 bucks and matches 4070 Super performance w 16 gb i will buy an intel GPU for the first time.
 
I wonder if we will see improvements in their drivers like we did with the last batch of cards? It was like night and day changes in how well they performed
 
Looking pretty good!

I find the "It's only faster because it has 10/12GB instead of 8!" critique from comments weird...But, AMD and Nvidia decided to sell you 8GB cards for a similar price, so? I'm not sure about AMD but it looks like Nvidia's next successor to this range will still be 128 bit and 8GB. The 12GB for 30 dollars more seems like a no brainer and provided they keep up their end of the drivers (which they have so far) it should lend a lot more future proofing than 8GB which is already regularly redlined.
 
How are the intel drivers interacting with the Autodesk suites? Navisworks / Autocad in all its flavors / Revit. Might not be bad for a budget workstation. I know autodesk just lists a few "Pro" cards from intel as supported.
 
Trogdor1123 said:
I wonder if we will see improvements in their drivers like we did with the last batch of cards? It was like night and day changes in how well they performed
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Undoubtedly drivers will be improving over the next few years of this card

This time the baseline might be higher because they already had that time pounding out Alchemist drivers, but they're still newish at dedicated cards and this is another new architecture on top of that, so I'd expect fairly significant improvements again even if not Alchemist tier
 
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Honestly, solid results for that price point. Nice to see a new GPU able to do what it can without breaking the bank. Even more so it not being an Nvidia or AMD card, it's great to see competition. I feel like they're on a good trajectory, from the previous line to this one there have been some noticeable improvements. If they continue at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if I thought about buying an Intel GPU in the future.
 
Horrible idle power consumption. Should be fixable with drivers but why haven't they fixed the previous gen?

 
It's gonna be difficult for these to compete with RDNA4 and the 50XX series when they come out, but that'll probably just drop prices further.
 
LordOfChaos said:
Looking pretty good!

I find the "It's only faster because it has 10/12GB instead of 8!" critique from comments weird...But, AMD and Nvidia decided to sell you 8GB cards for a similar price, so? I'm not sure about AMD but it looks like Nvidia's next successor to this range will still be 128 bit and 8GB. The 12GB for 30 dollars more seems like a no brainer and provided they keep up their end of the drivers (which they have so far) it should lend a lot more future proofing than 8GB which is already regularly redlined.
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Right 8GB GPUs shouldn't really be in production in 2025 but here we are
 
Good Lord, the 4060 and 4060 Ti are such a waste of space if you only factor in gaming.
More expensive with less performance than AMD equivalents. Intel is budget king though, and that's a great thing.
 
So the frame pacing thing must be directly related to game engine?

It's all over the place depending on the title.
 
LordOfChaos said:
But, AMD and Nvidia decided to sell you 8GB cards for a similar price, so? I'm not sure about AMD but it looks like Nvidia's next successor to this range will still be 128 bit and 8GB.
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The 5060(ti) will have "superior raw performance" but it's gonna be bottlenecked by a 10 year old VRAM configuration and terrible bus. It's like putting a V16 in a Fit.
 
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I have a slightly different take, but I get the hype....

I've stuck with Nvidia because of software/drivers and will continue to do so and recommend others do the same.

I would not recommend this because it is out of the mainstream. There is safety in numbers. Unless these really take off I would avoid, as you could run into problems in the future with certain games or legacy games and there is no way driver support can fully catch up to Nvidia.

The only way this could benefit me or anyone I recommend a PC to would be to drive down Nvidia prices. Otherwise, irrelevant.

Maybe in a few generations I would recommend one of these but I need to see if they will actually be around that long first. The next gen after these become viable and accepted by the market as fully featured gaming GPUs the prices will go up, so I don't think this is the savior we are looking for.
 
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Good Lord, the 4060 and 4060 Ti are such a waste of space if you only factor in gaming.
More expensive with less performance than AMD equivalents. Intel is budget king though, and that's a great thing.
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And there's the thing, a lot of people know Nvidia is the best at the top end, and so just get whatever Nvidia card they can get at their budget, even if it's not rational for the performance per dollar at that price
 
Zacfoldor said:
I have a slightly different take, but I get the hype....

I've stuck with Nvidia because of software/drivers and will continue to do so and recommend others do the same.

I would not recommend this because it is out of the mainstream. There is safety in numbers. Unless these really take off I would avoid, as you could run into problems in the future with certain games or legacy games and there is no way driver support can fully catch up to Nvidia.

The only way this could benefit me or anyone I recommend a PC to would be to drive down Nvidia prices. Otherwise, irrelevant.

Maybe in a few generations I would recommend one of these but I need to see if they will actually be around that long first.
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It's perfect for a low budget / console replacement PC build since it has enough VRAM and it supports most new GPU tech out there.

If they have stable drivers and compatibility is alright, there is no reason to not recommend this in the low end.

I'm sure AMD might adjust prices a bit based on this, but I doubt Nvidia cares... at least not yet.
 
Zacfoldor said:
The only way this could benefit me or anyone I recommend a PC to would be to drive down Nvidia prices
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Nah not just that but to scare them.

Intel releasing a 12gb card for 250 will make their 8gb 128bit 5060 look like dogshit. And if Intel comes out with a B780 that has 16gb it's gonna make the 5070 look bad too.

This is going to force VRAM up for Nviddy, which is a good thing since they're holding us back with their insistence on 8 and 12gb.


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Without solid and consistent software it's vaporware, sadly.
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I'm pretty sure that's not what vaporware means. The cards have released so... it's not vaporware...?
 
Will be dropping one of these in a steam box I made to see how it fares. At 1080p (heck maybe even 1440p as well), this is a fantastic option for bringing folks into the PC market at a more affordable* cost level.
 
looks like a great product.
Zacfoldor said:
I would not recommend this because it is out of the mainstream. There is safety in numbers. Unless these really take off I would avoid
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This makes no sense, if nobody buys these how would they ever "take off"? 🙄
This looks great for anyone making a low budget build.
 
Topher said:
Are Intel supposed to release cards to take on higher range like the 4080?
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Nope. Not even 4070. 4060 Ti and below. They're focusing on the budget segments. No sense in competing against NVIDIA in the high-end.
 
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Digital Foundry: Arc B580 is a dream product in many ways. This is as close to disruption as you're going to see in a mature market like PC graphics... The price/performance ratio is best in class

It sounds like there are issues with legacy games, which could be a problem. But to me, the real deal breaker would be if brand new games frequently need driver updates to get working as was the case with Alchemist. We're not going to know until 2025 games roll out.
 
I intent to get a 5080, but I just checked an online store and... Cards come with an Uplay Ass Crack: Shadows code.

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twilo99 said:
So the frame pacing thing must be directly related to game engine?

It's all over the place depending on the title.
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iirc the first Arcs also had some titles improve in that regard quite a lot. gamer nexus had an interview with some intel dude about it. I guess an engine is kinda like a wild horse and for whatever reason a driver's job is to tame it and make a racing horse out of it that actually can run in a straight line. pretty stupid if you ask me that it is a per title work and only some key ideas can be transfered between titles but the fine tuning seems to be necessary for every title individually.
 
if they had a B750 at $350 they would be in an even better position imo.

but this card seems to be a really good entry level GPU for anyone wanting console quality close to console pricing
 
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I was hoping this would beat 3060 in all scenarios, but don't seems to be the case. But I also don't understand how the 3060 12GB is performing worse than the 3060 8GB.

Also, since I don't want to upgrade my PSU(550w) 3060 still seems like the better upgrade path... Decisions, decisions
 
How's compatibility/performance in older games these days? Did they fix their shit? Price/performance/memory seem great, my only concern would be dx11 and below stuff that was a mess. Having said that, I haven't followed their attemps to fix their drivers so maybe it's not an issue anymore.
 
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