Intermittent fasting: is there anybody out there?

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zewone said:
It lowers your metabolism. Weight loss will be temporary. It will become very easy to put the weight back on.

So in the short term, it works.

Long term, make plans.
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Well yeah if your calorie restriction is temporary and you go back to eating the way you did, it's not long term, but that goes with anything.

If you restrict your calories to a lower level and keep it at a point to maintain your weight, a balanced meal with carbs will not bring your weight back up just because there are carbs.

This thread is interesting though. Didn't know there was a name for it. I have skipped breakfast for years and usually only eat between 12-8PM anyway.
 
Manoko said:
Would love to hear more, because I feel like intermittent fasting f*cked my health, basically completely exhausted my body/digestive system.

I used to sleep really well, and digest quickly and efficiently. Now I'm rarely hungry, sometimes when I eat I feel full very quickly and lack a lot of energy, my sleep is unrestful and light/broken easily.

Be careful, it seems that fasting is actually more stressful to the body than what most seem to believe.
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Sounds like something else might be going on. Talk to your doctor.
 
darkazcura said:
Well yeah if your calorie restriction is temporary and you go back to eating the way you did, it's not long term, but that goes with anything.

If you restrict your calories to a lower level and keep it at a point to maintain your weight, a balanced meal with carbs will not bring your weight back up just because there are carbs.

This thread is interesting though. Didn't know there was a name for it. I have skipped breakfast for years and usually only eat between 12-8PM anyway.
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What I said is correct. Unless you plan on being calorie restricted your entire life.


Feel free to research it yourself.
 
AEREC said:
After a day I changed my 16/8 IF plan to 14/10, thinking Id rather ease into rather than going all out. Will probably go back to 16/8 after a week or so.

I took my daughter out to breakfast this morning and she couldn't eat all her pancakes so I had a few bites thinking Sunday's could be a possible cheat day since going to breakfast on Sundays is kind of a routine.

Whats the consensus on one cheat day a week? Is it incredibly bad for IF?
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Not bad at all. You're already going out of your way to work IF into your life which is more than most people are doing. Never feel guilty when you feel like indulging from time to time.
 
4..maybe 5 days in on 20/4 now and I feel pretty great. I've never tried fasting before (and it might well be the only thing I haven't tried at this point, barring surgery, which I'll never do), and I'm amazed at how it's going.

I have a pint of ice cream in the freezer that I've only ended up having a few bites of per day, not even out of deliberate self-control, but I just didn't even want that much. For comparison, prior to this I had a hard time not buying a pint of ice cream very often, and finishing the whole thing in a sitting.

My kids think it's weird, but I made a point of timing my window such that it's during the time we all eat dinner together, so it works out. And I think me not going out and getting snacks in the middle of the night is helping my wife not eat junk either.

It's funny how simply removing the entire notion of eating is easier to me than controlling what I eat normally.
 
SteveO409 said:
I have been on IF since listening to the Joe rogan podcast with Dr. Rhonda Patrick a few months ago and it's been a life changing diet for me. It was hard for my brain to adjust not wanting food all the time and now I always feel an appetite in the afternoon. I let the part of the video do the discussion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxM_CLsvieE&t=147m29s

Heres an IOS app(sadly no android version)
https://medium.com/@kevinrose/introducing-zero-a-new-app-to-help-you-fast-209935e8245d
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maybe i'm misunderstanding, but according to the doctor in the clip, drinking coffee or tea does break the fasting period (she talks about it around 2h35m). anyone able to confirm/deny that?
 
zewone said:
What I said is correct. Unless you plan on being calorie restricted your entire life.


Feel free to research it yourself.
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I mean that's essentially what I said in my response. 'Calorie restriction' is a life long approach (I don't even like calling it a restriction because that's not really what is happening once you hit your goal weight and re-adjust calorie in-take). When I weighed 160, I ate x amount of calories which maintained my weight at 160. I dropped 20 pounds eating at about a 500-700 calorie deficit for about 3-4 months. After hitting 140, I calculated how many calories I would need to eat to maintain 140 at my exercise level, and I have pretty much done just that for the last two years. I don't even look at how much I am eating anymore because I know how much I need to eat to maintain 140. It's not even a 'calorie restriction' at this point, and it didn't matter if I was eating carbs as long as I balanced protein, fat, and carbs. It's simply how much food I need to eat to be the weight I am.

I have discussed this with my doctor, and I have read about it. There are several ways of accomplishing one's goals, but your original post made it seem like eating carbs and losing weight is impossible. That simply is not true.

Not to trying to argue too much, I just wanted to point out that you can find success eating carbs too. I don't think everyone can find success doing what I did. Everyone has different needs and what not. As someone who plays basketball frequently, I can't imagine a carb-less diet. I think I would fall apart.
 
zewone said:
The research is out and has been for over 50 years that calorie restriction on a carb based diet doesn't work. Feel free to do your own investigating. This is science and what you're doing is perpetuating a myth.
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That's perhaps too broad of a statement. Certain classes of athletes would certainly benefit from carbs. Eliminating carbs will reduce your capacity for high intensity athletic output:

http://jap.physiology.org/content/70/4/1500.short

The most cited article I've seen on natty bodybuilding says carb it up my droogs:

The popularity of natural bodybuilding is increasing; however, evidence-based recommendations for it are lacking. This paper reviewed the scientific literature relevant to competition preparation on nutrition and supplementation, resulting in the following recommendations. Caloric intake should be set at a level that results in bodyweight losses of approximately 0.5 to 1%/wk to maximize muscle retention. Within this caloric intake, most but not all bodybuilders will respond best to consuming 2.3-3.1 g/kg of lean body mass per day of protein, 15-30% of calories from fat, and the reminder of calories from carbohydrate.
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https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
 
darkazcura said:
I mean that's essentially what I said in my response. 'Calorie restriction' is a life long approach (I don't even like calling it a restriction because that's not really what is happening once you hit your goal weight and re-adjust calorie in-take). When I weighed 160, I ate x amount of calories which maintained my weight at 160. I dropped 20 pounds eating at about a 500-700 calorie deficit for about 3-4 months. After hitting 140, I calculated how many calories I would need to eat to maintain 140 at my exercise level, and I have pretty much done just that for the last two years. I don't even look at how much I am eating anymore because I know how much I need to eat to maintain 140. It's not even a 'calorie restriction' at this point, and it didn't matter if I was eating carbs as long as I balanced protein, fat, and carbs. It's simply how much food I need to eat to be the weight I am.

I have discussed this with my doctor, and I have read about it. There are several ways of accomplishing one's goals, but your original post made it seem like eating carbs and losing weight is impossible. That simply is not true.

Not to trying to argue too much, I just wanted to point out that you can find success eating carbs too. I don't think everyone can find success doing what I did. Everyone has different needs and what not. As someone who plays basketball frequently, I can't imagine a carb-less diet. I think I would fall apart.
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If the average person's body requires/burns 2000 calories a day, and you start eating only 1500 calories to lose weight, your body will eventually stop burning 2000 calories a day. Instead it will become adjusted to the 1500 calories you've accustomed it to.

Now the 1500 which used to be a deficit is now not going to burn any body fat, when it was burning 500 calories worth of body fat.

So whatever your weight is at when 1500 becomes your new baseline, you're going to plateau there. No more weight loss.

Let's say you decide you want to go back to a normal 2000 calorie day a diet after this, you're now eating 500 calories more than you should be so you'll start adding on 500 calories of body fat a day. So your only choice to not start putting on weight is to continue eating 1500 a day, even though you're not even losing weight while eating less.

If you instead were to switch to a keto diet and eat 1500 calories a day, not only would your metabolism stay at 2000 calories a day, it would actually start to increase to 2000+.

Add in IF and you're burning even more body fat.

I'm strictly talking overweight people here, looking to lose weight. If you're just looking to maintain your weight, continue eating carbs. It's not really a problem and it sounds like you know how to maintain for yourself.

I'm just merely trying to help spread the word because keto was/is very helpful for people who are very serious about weight loss.

SapientWolf said:
That's perhaps too broad of a statement. Certain classes of athletes would certainly benefit from carbs. Eliminating carbs will reduce your capacity for high intensity athletic output:

http://jap.physiology.org/content/70/4/1500.short

The most cited article I've seen on natty bodybuilding says carb it up my droogs:



https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-20
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Yeah, I should clarify I'm mainly talking about average overweight folks looking to lose weight. I don't know much about fueling athletes, so I'm sure there's answers out there. Athletes are usually in shape and not trying to lose a lot of weight fast, which is who I'm referring to.
 
Are there any ladies here doing IF? Just curious-- someone at work told me it doesn't work as well/the same for women as men. Something to do with hormones etc etc I've no idea.

I'm looking it up myself, but wanted to see if anyone here had heard anything?
 
The OP says its an intermittent fasting thread...but half the posts in here seem to be about ketogenic diets? We get it, keto is thermodynamic magic and the only good way to lose weight for long-term, it doesn't need to be injected into every unrelated thread.

More on-topic: what do you all usually have for your go-to lunches while eating IF? I'm trying to structure some office meals that are easy to heat up in the microwave. The gift and curse with IF is that I need to end up eating quite a bit more volume of food at lunch. Sometimes I find it tough to actually get in the right number of calories with the calorie counts of "normal" portion-sized lunches.
 
GatorBait said:
More on-topic: what do you all usually have for your go-to lunches while eating IF? I'm trying to structure some office meals that are easy to heat up in the microwave. The gift and curse with IF is that I need to end up eating quite a bit more volume of food at lunch. Sometimes I find it tough to actually get in the right number of calories with the calorie counts of "normal" portion-sized lunches.
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I put three lightly marinated boneless chicken breasts in the middle of a cookie sheet, and then cram veggies on the sides. Bake for 30-40 minutes and divvy up into three or four days of lunches, sometimes with a little brown rice. So good, and carries me through from lunch to a big supper at about 400cals a serving.
 
I used to do this in my youth. I'd do the lemonade diet for example. I went 15 days one time without eating a single bite of food. When I was a young teen I tried to starve myself to lose weight and in the course of 21 days, I only ate one time. The pain is tremendous.

At some point I decided I just never wanted to do it again, I'd lose weight any way I could without starving myself. If it means double exercise or whatever so be it.

In the end though everybody is different so good luck and do what you need to do.
 
rjinaz said:
I used to do this in my youth. I'd do the lemonade diet for example. I went 15 days one time without eating a single bite of food. When I was a young teen I tried to starve myself to lose weight and in the course of 21 days, I only ate one time. The pain is tremendous.

At some point I decided I just never wanted to do it again, I'd lose weight any way I could without starving myself. If it means double exercise or whatever so be it.

In the end though everybody is different so good luck and do what you need to do.
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None of that is intermittent fasting, though.
 
It's really weird how quickly I feel full now. Like, a small snack at 4 (my "breakfast" now) feels like a huge meal, and by the time I've had some dinner a few hours later, I'm honestly good until 4 the next day.

Still can't figure out why the word "intermittent" is involved here though. I eat on the same schedule every day. That's not intermittent at all.
 
Sorry for the bump, I can't make new threads and this is the most recent thread on IF.

So, I've started doing 16/8 (though in practice it's more 18/6 the way my schedule is going at work). My current calories are hovering around 1700 a day (though since I started IF, I'm ranging between 1600 and 1800 whereas before I'd routinely go over). I'm also working out (twice a week with weightlifting such as bench, squat, and deadlift, and three times a week with cardio). How long before I start seeing results? Though is it one of those things where everyone's different and there's no way to predict? I'm currently 220 lbs and I want to get down to 190 (ideally 180) by the end of the year.

There's a lot of conflicting info out there, and I dunno how I should parse it. So if I'm doing cardio, I'm lifting, I'm on a deficit, and I'm doing IF, is it gonna be a perfect storm of fat loss and getting fit, or is it just chaotic and a non-starter?

The one cool thing is that my sugar cravings are dying. I'm still having some carbs (I had pizza the other day), but cravings for candy and chips are kinda... dead. Black coffee tho, that tastes better than it used to.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
So, I've started doing 16/8 (though in practice it's more 18/6 the way my schedule is going at work). My current calories are hovering around 1700 a day (though since I started IF, I'm ranging between 1600 and 1800 whereas before I'd routinely go over). I'm also working out (twice a week with weightlifting such as bench, squat, and deadlift, and three times a week with cardio). How long before I start seeing results? Though is it one of those things where everyone's different and there's no way to predict? I'm currently 220 lbs and I want to get down to 190 (ideally 180) by the end of the year.
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I'm 5'10" started at 178lb and now 163lb. I'm doing 16/8 and then 24 hrs Saturday. Do weights twice a week and about 4 miles medium difficulty hike on Saturday. I'm not paying attention to my calories in take at all. I just listen to my body. I am pretty sure I can't physically eat excessive amount of calories because I get full before then. I dropped 15 lb in the first 3 weeks. Then my weight is no longer dropping but BF went down 5% in 2 months; aiming for 10-15%. Allergies went away and no more snoring (wife's happy). My diet isn't strictly keto but close to it. Just cut out grains, dairy and added sugar as much as possible and eat plenty of vegetables and healthy fat/protein. For me it was surprisingly fast. I was expecting to achieve 15lb in 3 months, not 3 weeks...
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Sorry for the bump, I can't make new threads and this is the most recent thread on IF.

So, I've started doing 16/8 (though in practice it's more 18/6 the way my schedule is going at work). My current calories are hovering around 1700 a day (though since I started IF, I'm ranging between 1600 and 1800 whereas before I'd routinely go over). I'm also working out (twice a week with weightlifting such as bench, squat, and deadlift, and three times a week with cardio). How long before I start seeing results? Though is it one of those things where everyone's different and there's no way to predict? I'm currently 220 lbs and I want to get down to 190 (ideally 180) by the end of the year.

There's a lot of conflicting info out there, and I dunno how I should parse it. So if I'm doing cardio, I'm lifting, I'm on a deficit, and I'm doing IF, is it gonna be a perfect storm of fat loss and getting fit, or is it just chaotic and a non-starter?

The one cool thing is that my sugar cravings are dying. I'm still having some carbs (I had pizza the other day), but cravings for candy and chips are kinda... dead. Black coffee tho, that tastes better than it used to.
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I workout 4 times a week, mixed cardio and weightlifting so a bit like you.
I started at 176lbs now I'm 160. I assume my body naturally burns about 1700 calories a day and I avg 1400 a day, sometimes less sometimes more.

Started june 1st and lost my first kilo/2.2lbs in 12 days before I was getting used to it.
Bear in mind I have been intermittently fasting before I even knew it was a thing by never having a breakfast for years already as it is.

I will still eat junk food here and there, but I'm still losing weight and yeah it could go quicker but I'm not in a rush, just want to get rid of my belly :P

RuGalz said:
I'm 5'10" started at 178lb and now 163lb. I'm doing 16/8 and then 24 hrs Saturday. Do weights twice a week and about 4 miles medium difficulty hike on Saturday.....

..... I was expecting to achieve 15lb in 3 months, not 3 weeks...
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haha 3 months here, similar amounts!
 
Over the last 3+ years I've been using IF as a means to jump starting a diet / exercise routine. I don't stick with it long because I've found (for me) the benefit wears off, but damn if it isn't incredibly effective at the beginning.

Usually run 18/6 for a couple weeks...
 
I found it pretty good, was doing it for a while. It is recommended to try it lightly at first (don't go overboard), because people with abnormal blood sugar or stomach issues might be adversely affected. But for me, there was only a small adjustment period of being hungry, then I stopped thinking about food as much and no troubles anything.

I'm thinking about getting back into it with my routine of working out several times a week. IF works for my body type.
 
I skip dinner almost daily (unless I'm required to attend a social dinner occasion).

Works for me, and I usually don't feel that hungry at night anymore.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Sorry for the bump, I can't make new threads and this is the most recent thread on IF.

So, I've started doing 16/8 (though in practice it's more 18/6 the way my schedule is going at work). My current calories are hovering around 1700 a day (though since I started IF, I'm ranging between 1600 and 1800 whereas before I'd routinely go over). I'm also working out (twice a week with weightlifting such as bench, squat, and deadlift, and three times a week with cardio). How long before I start seeing results? Though is it one of those things where everyone's different and there's no way to predict? I'm currently 220 lbs and I want to get down to 190 (ideally 180) by the end of the year.

There's a lot of conflicting info out there, and I dunno how I should parse it. So if I'm doing cardio, I'm lifting, I'm on a deficit, and I'm doing IF, is it gonna be a perfect storm of fat loss and getting fit, or is it just chaotic and a non-starter?

The one cool thing is that my sugar cravings are dying. I'm still having some carbs (I had pizza the other day), but cravings for candy and chips are kinda... dead. Black coffee tho, that tastes better than it used to.
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Use this calculator for loss prediction. It has been a fairly decent estimate for me (if I don't "compensate" for my exercise calories - i.e., by eating them back or counting them in my deficit).

http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php

Also, 30 pounds in 16 weeks is doable but one pound per weak is easier and more sustainable I feel.
 
zewone said:
The idea of eating 8 meals a day to lose weight is pretty hilarious.
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Everybody is different, I make 7 meals a day that are 1900 calories, a lot of fish and chicken, vegetables that I cook myself and a protein shake after I train.

I also train 5 times a week, 2 leg days and 3 upper body days in which I burn around 1200 to 1600 calories, works wonders for me.
 
Once you are committed, it's actually pretty easy. Too easy in fact. It becomes a habit where you hardly give it a second thought,
 
I haven't been actively counting calories, but I've lost roughly 8 pounds since June doing IT, that's without exercise. That said, I feel like I've started to plateau which means I'm going to have to further cut calories( if I hazard a guess, I'd say I average 1800 a day) or start exercising. I tend not to get too caught up in the numbers, more what I see visually. My clothes definitely feel looser and I can see where my waist is changing for the better in the oblique region especially.

Saturnman said:
Once you are committed, it's actually pretty easy. Too easy in fact. It becomes a habit where you hardly give it a second thought,
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Agreed. I occasionally get cravings but for the most part, it's become 2nd nature. The hardest part for me was waking up at 6am and not eating anything solid till noon, but I find that coffee helps to curb that feeling.
 
I started intermittent fasting last week again and it's working relatively well for me. When I tried the first time a couple years ago I really didn't plan right, so I was too hungry and would gorge (what was supposed to be 16/8 was like 21/3 cuz of work schedules). This time I've properly planned out my meals so that it's actually close to 16/8.

At noon I'll either have a protein shake with some fatty snack (I have natural PB and some almonds atm) or leftovers from eating out if I have them. I meal prep most of my dinners in advance so I don't have to cook them. It's worked well! I don't know if I'm actually losing weight because I really don't want to weigh myself much if at all, but I really like the simplicity of it and only having to plan for two meals instead of three. I broke my fast on Monday far too early so it's been a little tough these past couple days, but I'll get back into the swing of it soon, if stress from the looming hurricane doesn't lead to some emotional eating :p

I'm not working out at all atm but I plan on doing some things once I get into the swing of my new schedule.
 
I wanna try this but I love breakfast I only eat between 10- 6 and sleep between 8-4.30 but have some breakfast around 5 (usually a bowl of fibre)

I train after work most days, not far from what you guys do this just suits me better.
 
TheExorzist said:
I would recommend everyone to just stash these exotic diets and stick to normal "8 meals a day" with caloric deficit. I mean, this is usually the first diet you read about and if you do it right it really is the most effective one. It's also the one that makes most sense (--> high metabolism because your body is constantly working, no need to store much fat because you constantly supply food etc.).
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That's not how metabolism works. Or fat storage. At all. Meal frequency doesn't matter apart from adherence, and optimal timing isn't beneficial enough to be of concern for your average dieter. The reason it works for you is that it forces you to be aware of your intake and to make better food choices. That's all.

IF+Keto is like a cheat code if you want to lose weight.
 
I eat at 10 and 16, so i suppose that is 18/6? works for me.

For me IF is beneficial for few reasons.

+Portion sizes i get from store are like 800-1000 calories depending on the meal i make and i get two of those from each mince meat or chicken package, so my daily consumption is around 1600-2000 calories a day which according to statistics is at least 1000 calorie deficit a day. I got the numbers from here: http://www.precisionnutrition.com/weight-loss-calculator .It is nice because it takes in to account lowering calorie usage during weight loss. I put my daily weight in to that to track progress in excel.
If i didn't do IF i would have to divide them to three portions and that would be a mess.

+I don't have to eat same meal for three times during 1.5 days.

+I get to eat myself full on portion sizes i have used to. Sure you would get used to smaller portions, but i don't have to.

+Less time spent eating and making food.

+No need to carry snacks.

+Money saved a bit. I don't have a lot of income.

So that's about it from my perspective. No real minus sides for me at least. 12 kilos lost so far from 124 kg, 185cm.
 
I've been doing intermittent fasting for about 14 weeks so far, most days I don't eat anything for about 18 to 20 hours. I mainly started it doing it to lose some weight (I was at 107 Kg / 236 lbs) and so far I've lost about 8 Kg (approx 17 lbs).

I'm not the most healthy of eaters and I still drink a lot too (mainly beer) in my "eating window", but IF has been working for me. Mainly because it's easy to do.. I just don't eat breakfast, snacks or lunch and keep my drinks during the day to water (lots) or diet soft drinks (not ideal I know). In parallel I also have tried to minmise the amount of sugar I eat (excluding the beer) when I am eating. I'm pretty certain I'd have lost a lot more weight if I wasn't drinking though, so probably give that up if you do drink and can!

It gets a lot easier if you can stick through the first few weeks. The last few weeks I've skipped eating at all on Sundays and don't eat again until Monday evening (about a 46 hour fast) and that's been pretty easy too.

A few tips:
Drink water, lots of it, carbonated (sparkling) water is very good too.
Watch your salt intake, you may need to add a tiny bit to a glass of water (helps if you get headaches, well in my case anyway!).
Other people won't understand why you're not eating lunch (breakfast you can usually skip fine and people won't know), especially at work, so it can seem like you're being a bit anti-social by not eating. I will usually grab a diet soda as an alternative to eating with folks.
Black coffee is supposed to be good, but I've not adjusted to it (I drink my coffee with milk usually)
Keep busy, the time can fly by and if you're busy you don't notice you're not eating
Being hungry usually come in waves, it's not a constant thing. So drink some water or do something different and it will pass.


I'm far from an expert but so far it's working for me. Good luck!
 
I started doing daily 16 hour fasts about 3 weeks ago (8pm to noon). I'd done IF before, but usually doing strictly cardio training, and even then it was about 18 hrs every other day.

This week was the first time I tried getting back into my full exercise routine. Drink more water when fasting! Nothing worse than trying to fight off cramps for an entire day because your body isn't used to retaining so little water. I had to drink some salt water yesterday during an early meeting to keep from seizing up after my cycling class.

On top of the fasting, I'm also doing a sober September, and thus far I'm pretty impressed with the amount of energy I have in the morning.
 
As an aside, I'm going to a metabolism conference in October in San Diego (focused on obesity, diabetes, and diet/exercise). I'll let you guys know if there's anything interesting to share from the experts.
 
Magypsy said:
While in a fasting period, could I replace water with green tea?
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Green tea without sugar or something that can spike your insuline should be fine. It might not be the perfect fast, but a better more enjoyable fast is always better then a perfect fast you don't enjoy.

If you want some good fasting info go look up some talk from Dr Jason fung on YouTube.
He is kinda the reason I do a 4~5 day water fast every couple of months.
 
I did a Liver Cleanse (there's a popular book out there) I was going to do it for a month and did it for almost three. I never had more energy and never felt better. I lost way too much weight tho.

It's the easiest cleanse if you like fruits and vegetables.
 
Did a 10-day water fast last month. Lost 3/4 kilos, I really liked it because before that I tried a mono diet (potatoes) for 2 weeks and I was always hungry. After the 3/4 day of the complete fast I wasn't hungry anymore.

The main problem for me was boredom. I was on holiday from work and not eating with friends and family, and that was a real chore. I could have gone on longer but I was just tired of not eating socially.

I also don't understand people who say you have to eat gently to "break" a fast, like watermelons or milk or whatever. I had a rare hamburger with the works and no problems.

Now I stopped eating dinner, and the weight is staying off, but I respect the meals I do eat a lot more and rarely get hungry.
 
I don't eat from 12 to 12, then I have a small lunch (two pieces of bread, and a bit of yoghurt) and then I have dinner and maybe a late night snack.

I fill the gaps with tea (dropped coffee after drinking 4 cups a day for half of my life, but black coffee is just as good for this) and occasionally a sugar-free piece of candy (generally Ricola Lemon, Cranberry, or Apple) to fill the need of sucking on something with substance :D

It's quite easy after the initial adjustment period.
 
sasimirobot said:
Did a 10-day water fast last month. Lost 3/4 kilos, I really liked it because before that I tried a mono diet (potatoes) for 2 weeks and I was always hungry. After the 3/4 day of the complete fast I wasn't hungry anymore.

The main problem for me was boredom. I was on holiday from work and not eating with friends and family, and that was a real chore. I could have gone on longer but I was just tired of not eating socially.

I also don't understand people who say you have to eat gently to "break" a fast, like watermelons or milk or whatever. I had a rare hamburger with the works and no problems.

Now I stopped eating dinner, and the weight is staying off, but I respect the meals I do eat a lot more and rarely get hungry.
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Sigh, that sounds like such a smart diet. Let's starve for 10 days and lose muscle!
 
I give 2 shits about "muscles", and have also read that fasting and muscle loss for such a short time is very minuscule anyways. Also it's not "starving" if you are burning fat reserves, I wasn't any where close to starving...
 
Monkeyball said:
Sigh, that sounds like such a smart diet. Let's starve for 10 days and lose muscle!
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Muscles loss is kinda minimal on a fast if you believe the science. Fasting is different then starving your body with little amount of calories. Fasting from what I understood has a completely different hormonal response after 2 days then say eating 400 kcalories.
 
I've been working out regularly for the past two years along with eating well. In the first year I lost about 25 pounds (from 160) and then after that I lost another 5 at some point but stabilized around 134 pounds at the end. Anyways, after that first year, my body fat percentage has basically been at at 16% which has been really frustrating. I started a keto diet about 2 months ago and now on the days I don't work out I'll eat during an 8 hour period. With this I've finally started seeing fat reduction again. It's mostly lower abdomenal fat that I've been trying to get rid of so I could have defined abs. Keto + if seems to be doing the trick.
 
RiZ III said:
I've been working out regularly for the past two years along with eating well. In the first year I lost about 25 pounds (from 160) and then after that I lost another 5 at some point but stabilized around 134 pounds at the end. Anyways, after that first year, my body fat percentage has basically been at at 16% which has been really frustrating. I started a keto diet about 2 months ago and now on the days I don't work out I'll eat during an 8 hour period. With this I've finally started seeing fat reduction again. It's mostly lower abdomenal fat that I've been trying to get rid of so I could have defined abs. Keto + if seems to be doing the trick.
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Combining two fad diets does the trick alright.
 
BuddyTheBestPuppy said:
lots of people drinking black coffee! Does adding milk or cream make it unhealthier?
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Well, yeah it does, but more importantly it add calories. You can have black coffee during fasting periods since the calorie count is so small it doesn't affect the fasting. Caffeine can also help suppress appetite for some people (it does for me).

Greedings said:
Combining two fad diets does the trick alright.
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Really just HAD to come into the thread and stick it to us, huh?

Neither of those are fad diets. Shit, IF isn't a diet at all, it's just adjusting meal timing.
 
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