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Frustrating - Using an iPhone 4S with voice recognition for keyboard than using my iPad and not being able to use voice recognition. I get they want to sell more 4S' by only having Siri in that device but I don't understand the harm in bringing it to their iPad 2... or at least the keyboard voice recognition part which a lot of people disassociate from Siri.
 
I like how when you replace your lower bitrate songs with the iTunes version it still keeps any tags that you have added.

On my albums I always add the release year to the "Sort Album" field so that albums always show up in chronological order, and the songs that I have replaced with the iTunes version keeps it there
 
Tabris said:
Frustrating - Using an iPhone 4S with voice recognition for keyboard than using my iPad and not being able to use voice recognition. I get they want to sell more 4S' by only having Siri in that device but I don't understand the harm in bringing it to their iPad 2... or at least the keyboard voice recognition part which a lot of people disassociate from Siri.
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Gotta sell iPad 3 somehow :/
 
So I noticed that after getting iTunes Match setup my iPhone now has no music actually stored on the device but it still has my library so it will just download a song from iCloud if I want to play it.

The problem is now hardly anything has album artwork, there are a few albums that still do for whatever reason, but the vast majority of them do not. Before I had album artwork for every single song on my iPhone, and they are still there in iTunes.

I even tried "download all" on one of my albums from my iPhone and it still did not get the artwork for it.

This is pretty annoying to me, does anyone else have this problem?
 
dyls said:
I have a whole bunch of songs that should have been matched (i.e. two or three songs from an album where everything else got matched) but were uploaded instead. Running through the match process again doesn't change them. A lot are lower than 256kbps, so I'd rather match them. Is there a way to do that? Can I delete them from iCloud but not from my computer?

Edit: It looks like you can delete the song with the "delete from iCloud" box clicked as well. Choose to "keep files" on the second dialog box. Then re-add the track to the library. When you update iTunes match, it will try to match it again. I'm trying to think of a faster way to do many files though.
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I would think that they still try to match uploaded songs every time you go to "Store" and select "Match", without having to delete and re-import songs into iTunes. I would think it would be in Apple's best interest to do so.
 
does the option to DLed higher quality tracks from iTunes only appear when you finish step 3? I haven't see the symbol with the cloud and DL arrow yet


I'm having trouble getting past step 3 because it's uploading 1300 songs at a snails pace
 
Wish you had more control of the notifications on the lockscreen. Usually get to see the same wall of one guy on a messenger client. Alright, I get it. One time is enough.
 
Majine said:
Wish you had more control of the notifications on the lockscreen. Usually get to see the same wall of one guy on a messenger client. Alright, I get it. One time is enough.
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you can go into notification settings and limit the amount of persistent messages per app in the notification center (it's 1, 5 and 10 lines).

so you could limit the messages app to one bar on the screen - only the latest message. that might work
 
LCfiner said:
you can go into notification settings and limit the amount of persistent messages per app in the notification center (it's 1, 5 and 10 lines).

so you could limit the messages app to one bar on the screen - only the latest message. that might work
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That's Notification Center, The lockscreen is its own entity.
 
Ken Masters said:
According to itunes I've matches 6,000+ songs but I don't see the DL cloud icon anywhere, am I doing something wrong?
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That's why I posted the link. You have to delete the songs from your local library.
 
giga said:
That's why I posted the link. You have to delete the songs from your local library.
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Ok I see, is there anyway to speed the process with songs that have the "waiting" cloud next to it, for example iTunes matched 2/20 songs for an album and the other 18 have the "waiting" iCloud next to it. WHen I right click on those songs I don't have the "add to iCloud" option
 
Pretty impressed with it so far. I had to right click on the info columns to add the "iCloud Status" column to see what was uploaded or matched.

A while back I bought a Coheed & Cambria CD form Walmart that I didn't know was censored and iTunes matched it to the uncensored songs. I deleted the original rip and redownloaded the album with uncensored tracks. It also fixed some tracks that were ripped from scratched discs and had audio problems. Awesome.
It looks like some tracks that are on iTunes are still not being matched, even if the rest of the album was.
 
I'm really on the fence about match

1) it downloads to your phone instead of streaming right?
2) what about songs that probably arent in itunes database?
3) and i have more than 25,000 and i dont want to split libraries
 
dorkimoe said:
I'm really on the fence about match

1) it downloads to your phone instead of streaming right?
2) what about songs that probably arent in itunes database?
3) and i have more than 25,000 and i dont want to split libraries
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To the best of my knowledge:
1. you can both download and stream to an iOS 5 device
2. songs that it can't match are uploaded to your iCloud, thus counting against you total allocated space
3. not sure of this one, i think they may expand it in the future, perhaps with an added fee??
 
yukonrye said:
To the best of my knowledge:
1. you can both download and stream to an iOS 5 device
2. songs that it can't match are uploaded to your iCloud, thus counting against you total allocated space
3. not sure of this one, i think they may expand it in the future, perhaps with an added fee??
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thanks
I think i would need more space then, definitely more than 5gb wont match
 
I hopped in to try this out. It seems like it might be all kinds of awesome for me since my iPod just broke and I've been forced to solely use my iPhone. I have a subscription to rhapsody, but that doesn't cover everything, so I had been putting my most played stuff that isn't on rhapsody on the phone. It's nice to pretty much have all the music I can ever dream of in the cloud and at my fingertips anywhere.
 
Eaten By A Grue said:
I would think that they still try to match uploaded songs every time you go to "Store" and select "Match", without having to delete and re-import songs into iTunes. I would think it would be in Apple's best interest to do so.
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I tried again, and it still seems like once a track is uploaded it no longer attempts to match it. Does anyone know a quick way to remove uploaded tracks from iCloud so I can attempt to match them again? I hate seeing 7 out of 9 tracks of an album matched and the other 2 uploaded, especially when those two are at a lower bit rate.

Edit: And what's more, deleting a song from iCloud doesn't even seem to actually delete it. I would delete an uploaded song from my library and iCloud, then re-add it to the library, and then attempt to add it to iCloud. But it immediately shows up as uploaded again without having to go through the upload process.
 
dyls said:
I tried again, and it still seems like once a track is uploaded it no longer attempts to match it. Does anyone know a quick way to remove uploaded tracks from iCloud so I can attempt to match them again? I hate seeing 7 out of 9 tracks of an album matched and the other 2 uploaded, especially when those two are at a lower bit rate.

Edit: And what's more, deleting a song from iCloud doesn't even seem to actually delete it. I would delete an uploaded song from my library and iCloud, then re-add it to the library, and then attempt to add it to iCloud. But it immediately shows up as uploaded again without having to go through the upload process.
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several of my albums is matched the first couple songs and uploaded the rest, there has to be way to fix this
 
yukonrye said:
2. songs that it can't match are uploaded to your iCloud, thus counting against you total allocated space
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Not true.

There's enough misinformation out there about Match. Let's not add to it by just saying things you don't actually know.

Though to be fair, Apple is doing a terrible job with iTunes Match documentation.
 
Ever since I updated to 5.0.1 my connection to Verizon Wireless is very slow.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Not true.

There's enough misinformation out there about Match. Let's not add to it by just saying things you don't actually know.

Though to be fair, Apple is doing a terrible job with iTunes Match documentation.
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Um...if you're going to negate things at least post/link a correction.

Oh, nvm I'll do it.

From Ars Technica said:
What do you mean "assuming iTunes would be able to match and/or upload them?" What's the criteria for music being matched or uploaded?

When iTunes Match goes through your library, it uses a three-step process in order to make the system more efficient. First, it scans your local song library, then it looks within the iTunes Store to see whether any of your songs match up with what's already on the server. If the songs are already on iTunes, the song is then deemed to be "matched," and it's not uploaded—instead, you simply get access to that song, via iTunes, on all of your devices. The third step only comes in if your songs are not matchable with anything that currently exists on iTunes—in this case, the songs are uploaded from your computer to iCloud, and they count against the aforementioned 25,000 song limit.

Still, there are certain scenarios in which your obscure songs may not be matched or uploaded to iCloud. For example, songs that are encoded at a low bit rate (some are theorizing 96Kbps, or 128Kbps) are simply ineligible for iTunes Match and won't be uploaded at all. And even more maddening, as tweeted by Macworld's Dan Moren, songs that are only in Smart Playlists (and not in normal iTunes playlists) are strangely not eligible and therefore won't be matched. It seems if you want those songs to be matched or uploaded, you must remove them entirely from your Smart Playlists and add them to non-smart playlists to get iTunes Match to see them.
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Link to article:http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/11/itunes-match-your-questions-answered.ars
 
So do i have to pick each song individually to listen, or can i make a playlist and it will cloud play?

they need a trial of this, or someone who bought it make a review/walkthrough
 
It matched 73% of the 8500 songs I have. I looked through some of the albums and 2/20 or 2/11 songs are matched the rest are uploaded. These are albums that I ripped from a CD I bought, this is frustrating
 
My iPhone 4 has been updated to 5.0.1 and the battery still seems to drain 33% quicker. I've let it drain to calibrate too. Are other iPhone 4 owners back to near-iOS 4 lifespans on battery charge?
 
Grifter said:
My iPhone 4 has been updated to 5.0.1 and the battery still seems to drain 33% quicker. I've let it drain to calibrate too. Are other iPhone 4 owners back to near-iOS 4 lifespans on battery charge?
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Mine's draining just as bad is it did when I updated to iOS5. And my connection to Verizon 3G network is running very slow. I don't know if the problem is with my phone or the network. Others seem to be having connection issues with their networks.
 
Grifter said:
My iPhone 4 has been updated to 5.0.1 and the battery still seems to drain 33% quicker. I've let it drain to calibrate too. Are other iPhone 4 owners back to near-iOS 4 lifespans on battery charge?
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Mine was shit on 5 but is very very close to what it was on iOS4 with the latest update. Change was immediate for me too.

That sucks your battery life is still sucking. Any changes in how you use it? Maybe it is a bad app? Try to reinstall?
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
The 25,000 song limit with iTunes Match and your free 5 GB of iCloud storage are two different things.
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It's amazing how many people are getting confused by this. Like you said, though, not Apple's finest hour in explaining details.
 
Thanks, guys.

I "formatted" and restored when installing iOS5, still using the same apps, only change is obviously the (lovely) notification stuff. Well, I added AppAllStar, Scribblenauts, and Words With Friends but I doubt they're eating extra battery. I'll keep a closer eye on what's going on in the background. I charge at work and it used to last me through the weekend but I find myself recharging everyday now.

Not sure if my Apple connection is affected, haven't noticed a difference.
 
iTunes match seems to have finally finished, but I have so many songs with errors it's insane. I think I have something like 5,000 tracks with the error message on it. WTF is going on. I really don't care about the uploaded vs matched thing (Ok, well I kind of do), but this kind of invalidates the whole reason for the damned service.

If that goes away and I can get everything on the cloud it'd be pretty nifty. I tested it out on a few albums that did make their way there today, and I liked it.
 
The feature of saving space on your iOS devices but still having access to your entire library is nice but unfortunately for me I need to have all my songs actually stored on my iPhone because my car stereo will only see the songs that are actually on the device.

So I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to sync with my iTunes library and have it actually transfer all the songs back over as opposed to having to download every song from my iPhone
 
Grifter said:
Thanks, guys.

I "formatted" and restored when installing iOS5, still using the same apps, only change is obviously the (lovely) notification stuff. Well, I added AppAllStar, Scribblenauts, and Words With Friends but I doubt they're eating extra battery. I'll keep a closer eye on what's going on in the background. I charge at work and it used to last me through the weekend but I find myself recharging everyday now.

Not sure if my Apple connection is affected, haven't noticed a difference.
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Which app is this? There seems to be two which do similar things: **AppAllStar** (yes, with stars next to the name) and App AllStars
 
dyls said:
I have a whole bunch of songs that should have been matched (i.e. two or three songs from an album where everything else got matched) but were uploaded instead. Running through the match process again doesn't change them. A lot are lower than 256kbps, so I'd rather match them. Is there a way to do that? Can I delete them from iCloud but not from my computer?

Edit: It looks like you can delete the song with the "delete from iCloud" box clicked as well. Choose to "keep files" on the second dialog box. Then re-add the track to the library. When you update iTunes match, it will try to match it again. I'm trying to think of a faster way to do many files though.
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I think they are doing this on purpose to protect their servers.

What I'd like to do is match my entire library, then re-download my entire library so I can have one cohesive quality (256kbs AAC). No .flac, no .wma, no nmp3, I want one clean music library on my hard drive that I can then use on my other devices and I will know everything is in the same format.

I assume itunes match won't allow me to do this easily, I will probably have to re-download each song individually.
 
Is there a way to completely reset iTunes Match? I'm considering doing it and simply stopping the match process before Step 3 a couple of times to try and maximize the number of matched songs. I don't see another way to get songs that have been uploaded to be matched instead.
 
yukonrye said:
Pretty impressed with it so far. I had to right click on the info columns to add the "iCloud Status" column to see what was uploaded or matched.

A while back I bought a Coheed & Cambria CD form Walmart that I didn't know was censored and iTunes matched it to the uncensored songs. I deleted the original rip and redownloaded the album with uncensored tracks. It also fixed some tracks that were ripped from scratched discs and had audio problems. Awesome.
It looks like some tracks that are on iTunes are still not being matched, even if the rest of the album was.
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No World?

I can't find my copy of the album and I had to grab a rip... censored... I was kind of hoping that iTunes Match wouldn't match it to the censored versions because I HATE that Claudio doesn't say the F-word in my favorite song on the album on the digital copy I have Ugh.
 
VPhys said:
I think they are doing this on purpose to protect their servers.

What I'd like to do is match my entire library, then re-download my entire library so I can have one cohesive quality (256kbs AAC). No .flac, no .wma, no nmp3, I want one clean music library on my hard drive that I can then use on my other devices and I will know everything is in the same format.

I assume itunes match won't allow me to do this easily, I will probably have to re-download each song individually.
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Create the following smart playlist to see all of your files that aren't 256kbps AAC. Option-click on the + to get the multiple conditions.

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I backed up all my uploaded files to another drive and deleted them from both my iTunes library and iCloud. I'll wait until tomorrow to avoid any caching issues and then try to re-add them to the library and hopefully attempt to rematch them.
 
giga said:
First make a backup of all your current songs.

Then enable the "iCloud Status" column from my previous post. Sort by that column and select all the matched songs. Delete them but then make sure to keep this unchecked:

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Then you'll just see your matched songs still there in your library but with an iCloud download button next to them. Select them all, right click, and download.

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Awesome. Thanks for this. The "update iTunes Match" didn't work for me, though. So I just restarted iTunes and it automatically re-scanned, jumping from 1600 songs to 3001, which is nice because I only have 3050.
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a nice feature i appreciate about iTunes Match - it'll keep whatever tags you have set in your music files regardless of how it is on the iTunes Store. it makes downloading and replacing your low bitrate files much easier, though Apple will append your email info onto the track like they do for iTunes Store purchases.

also, ratings and play counts made on your iDevices sync back to the cloud so they appear on the desktop as well. in seconds, actually.
 
Alfarif said:
No World?

I can't find my copy of the album and I had to grab a rip... censored... I was kind of hoping that iTunes Match wouldn't match it to the censored versions because I HATE that Claudio doesn't say the F-word in my favorite song on the album on the digital copy I have Ugh.
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It was Good Apollo and it turns out I was wrong about the censored tracks. I listened to the entire album and not all of the tracks are corrected. I only tested the second track at first and it turns out that the word being censored was "kill". Walmart is so fucking loony that the version they sell censors out hurtful(?) words.

Yet I can still buy House of the Dead and Call of Duty from them......
 
Hmmm... can someone help urgently?
After updating to 5.0.1 and getting my contacts on my MacBook Air, my contacts are now gone on iPhone 4. I just went into the address book and nothing's there, and I have to do a call. =/

Can I do anything to get my contacts back?
 
Anastacio said:
Hmmm... can someone help urgently?
After updating to 5.0.1 and getting my contacts on my MacBook Air, my contacts are now gone on iPhone 4. I just went into the address book and nothing's there, and I have to do a call. =/

Can I do anything to get my contacts back?
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If you contacts are on your computer and not your phone, just re-sync your contacts :p
 
But how re-sync? My contacts are on my MacBook Air, but everything else including apps, music and back-up is on my Mac Mini. I don't think I could re-sync cause then I'll lose everything else?

Can't I recover them through iCloud somehow?

Edit:
Oh wow, I got them on now. I just turned on iCloud back-up on the iPhone 4 and updated the address book. That was seriously easy.

Thanks for them help though. =)

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By the way, I asked this in the gaming thread but couldn't seem to get an answer.
After upgrading to 5.0.1 I have been signed out of Game Center and now it asks me to do a new account, has anyone tried this? What do I do? Have I just lost my username, friends, scores and everything? =/
 
CrankyJay said:
Anyone try out the location based reminders yet?

I just made one for when I arrive at home to check my water meter. I hope it works. =)
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They are highly unreliable. I stopped using them because of that. It will probably work fine at your home though because it works better at houses cuz of their small size.
 
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