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So iTunes match is live in canada. I signed up for this year and it’s scanning my library now.

I knew Apple would be international ahead of Google and Amazon. They already got relationships in place from years of having stores open outside the States.
 
LCfiner said:
So iTunes match is live in canada. I signed up for this year and it’s scanning my library now.

I knew Apple would be international ahead of Google and Amazon. They already got relationships in place from years of having stores open outside the States.
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:O

I completely overlooked the new sidebar item. Buying this so hard!
 
mf.luder said:
Is there an iTunes match trial? I'm tempted to try it but don't want to be suckered for $27.
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I’m not sure what you’re looking for. iTunes match takes the iCloud syncing that already exists for iTunes purchased music and applies it for non iTunes purchased music. so if you have iTunes bought stuff and then downloaded it to other devices, iTunes match extends that to other stuff you ripped. I guess a trial would be seeing how iTunes tracks (try a free weekly track) can de downloaded on multiple devices.

I think it was pretty buggy at launch for people in the states. I guess I’ll be finding out if it’s gotten better for my library (it’s gotta match 14K items in my library)
 
LCFiner, is iTunes showing app updates for you after iTunes Match went live today? Mine keeps insisting there are no updates available for me when I had like 50 updates waiting to be downloaded this morning.
 
dream said:
LCFiner, is iTunes showing app updates for you after iTunes Match went live today? Mine keeps insisting there are no updates available for me when I had like 50 updates waiting to be downloaded this morning.
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well, it says I have no updates but I’m not a good example because I actively updated all my apps earlier this afternoon so I would not expect any more updates.

(side note: out of 14 300 songs, it matched around ~10000 and it’s uploading 3992 songs)
 
hmm, one major annoyance. turning on iTunes match on an iPhone turns off any synced genius mixes and turns off the genius button for on-the-fly genius playlists.

that’s a pretty nasty trade-off for me. I might disable itunes match because of it. (I’m gonna hope they re-enable genius with iTunes match in iOS 5.1 or soon afterward…)

Oh, and dream. I just got some app updates while iTunes match is running.
 
iTunes Match is now available in Canada. It is all of a sudden in my iTunes and iPhone settings.

edit: guess i'm late. oh well. i'm excited!
 
Got iTunes Match after the UK release, it's pretty awesome and finally I can access my whole music collection on the phone. I've looked at some FAQs online and tutorial videos but still have a few questions.

How do I actually replace a track with a matched better quality one? Has it already done so?

I'm having a problem on the phone where certain albums will not display album art, how can I fix this?
 
Cyport said:
Got iTunes Match after the UK release, it's pretty awesome and finally I can access my whole music collection on the phone. I've looked at some FAQs online and tutorial videos but still have a few questions.

How do I actually replace a track with a matched better quality one? Has it already done so?

I'm having a problem on the phone where certain albums will not display album art, how can I fix this?
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regarding replacing a track on your computer: in itunes, create a smart playlist with the settings of bitrate < 256 AND icloud status = matched.

then, select all (or some, if you're squeamish) of the files, hit alt-delete, to delete them from your library (but don't delete them from icloud). then, a download icon will appear next to the file in the icloud icon column. select all and download.

regarding cover art missing on the iphone. I am seeing this too. its still a little buggy and I can't find any way to force cover art to show for each track.
 
LCfiner said:
regarding replacing a track on your computer: in itunes, create a smart playlist with the settings of bitrate < 256 AND icloud status = matched.

then, select all (or some, if you're squeamish) of the files, hit alt-delete, to delete them from your library (but don't delete them from icloud). then, a download icon will appear next to the file in the icloud icon column. select all and download.

regarding cover art missing on the iphone. I am seeing this too. its still a little buggy and I can't find any way to force cover art to show for each track.
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Thanks, just tried it on one album and works like you said. I might replace all of them soon when I get a connection to faster internet as it's taking ages to download from iCloud.

I saw somewhere that it was probably a server issue about the artwork but not sure.
 
I finally got around to signing up for iTunes Match. I'm definitely having the same problems as everyone else as far as songs not being recognized.

That said, I've already replaced a few shitty 128kbps albums with the iTunes versions. Much better. My Stone Roses rip from an error filled cd finally sounds good!
 
yeah, so after a couple more turns around analyzing my library, there are 250 songs that it encounters errors when trying to match or upload. some of them are songs I know are in iTunes and some are not but it can’t upload them. it’s the same songs no matter what.

I’m gonna check out some common iTunes match errors online to see if there’s anything I can do on my end. It’s kind of annoying I can’t force the issue and say “upload, dammit!”
 
LCfiner said:
yeah, so after a couple more turns around analyzing my library, there are 250 songs that it encounters errors when trying to match or upload. some of them are songs I know are in iTunes and some are not but it can’t upload them. it’s the same songs no matter what.

I’m gonna check out some common iTunes match errors online to see if there’s anything I can do on my end. It’s kind of annoying I can’t force the issue and say “upload, dammit!”
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I read a tip on Macworld that might help you.

Some songs aren’t eligible for iTunes Match, but there is a workaround
iTunes Match won’t match very short songs, and it won’t match songs encoded with very low bit-rates. I found about 20 tracks in my library that were encoded at laughably low rates; each was marked Not Eligible. (You can find your tracks that iTunes Match won’t match by creating a Smart Playlist where iCloud Status is Ineligible and Media Kind is Music.) We haven’t found any tricks to start getting iTunes Match to match songs that are shorter than five seconds—though luckily there aren’t too many of those. We did, however, come across a workaround for getting the service to match poorly-encoded tunes.


Re-encoding songs with lower bit-rates makes them suddenly eligible for iTunes Match matching.
Control-click (or right-click) on the offending song(s) in question, and choose Create AAC Version from the contextual menu that appears. (If you’ve tweaked iTunes’s importing settings, that option may read differently; verify your settings in Preferences -> General -> Import Settings.) iTunes will re-encode the selected tracks with a higher bit-rate. This alone won’t improve the quality of the song: It’s a bit like using your DSLR camera to take a photograph of a Polaroid picture. But iTunes Match will look at the new track and see a better bit-rate, and will then make the converted track eligible for matching.

Control-click the new version of the track, choose Add to iCloud, and then delete the older version. (Then, of course, use Jason Snell’s method for downloading Apple’s 256-kbps version of the song.)
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http://www.macworld.com/article/163676/2011/11/secrets_of_itunes_match.html
 
So I'm looking to upgrade to iOS 5 on my old iPos (third gen; A1318 iirc) touch, it's compatible, right? I was looking through some torrents to get the raw file, but only find 4g iPod touches.

If it is compatible, can someone find me a direct link download to iOS 5/5.01 or whatever, since my search skills turned up nothing.
 
Sentry said:
So I'm looking to upgrade to iOS 5 on my old iPos (third gen; A1318 iirc) touch, it's compatible, right? I was looking through some torrents to get the raw file, but only find 4g iPod touches.

If it is compatible, can someone find me a direct link download to iOS 5/5.01 or whatever, since my search skills turned up nothing.
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http://ios.e-lite.org/

iPod 3,1 is what you want. yes, it works well
 
LCfiner said:
yeah, so after a couple more turns around analyzing my library, there are 250 songs that it encounters errors when trying to match or upload.
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Ok, I'm at this stage in the process, how do I actually do it? Do I have to manually delete each song and re-add it? I found all the advanced tips, but can't find the remedial ones, Lol.
 
Hey the AIFF trick worked for me! Thanks for linking to it LC.

I'm having album art issues like you guys though. Pretty annoying.

Edit: I also successfully used the AIFF trick to match songs that should've been matched but for some reason were uploaded instead.
 
Branson said:
So iTunes Match....worth it?
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It works as advertised, so if that appeals to you then it's worth it.

I like the convenience of being able to add songs to my iPhone from my library on a whim and from wherever.

I still dearly wish it was a streaming service, but I have MOG for that.
 
Tobor said:
Ok, I'm at this stage in the process, how do I actually do it? Do I have to manually delete each song and re-add it? I found all the advanced tips, but can't find the remedial ones, Lol.
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iTunes menu > store > update iTunes match.

just like if you were to manually update genius results.
 
I wish there was a driving mode or something for the music app with bigger controls. So many times I've been driving with my iPhone in a dock, and need to pause a podcast and accidentally hit the skip back button, sending the podcast back to the start. It's really annoying.
 
I figured out how to fix the no artwork bug with iTunes Match (or one of them, at least). Start playing the song that is missing artwork, then do some combination of:

a) skip to the next/previous track, then skip back to that track
b) from the Now Playing view, tap the arrow to go back to the album view then play another song from the album, then skip to the song that's missing artwork

Not sure if there's a method to this madness or what, but whatever, it's somehow working for me. Make sure your albums have artwork in iTunes as well on your computer.

Edit: I still have entire albums missing artwork though, I guess that's some separate bug.

Edit 2: Yeah it seems to be just random luck.
 
Tobor said:
When I do that, nothing changes.
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try turning off iTunes match for the computer and turning it back on.

if you do this a couple times and there are still files stuck at either the “waiting” or “error” iCloud status, then try the AIFF conversion and then try again.
 
LCfiner said:
try turning off iTunes match for the computer and turning it back on.

if you do this a couple times and there are still files stuck at either the “waiting” or “error” iCloud status, then try the AIFF conversion and then try again.
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Ohhh, no, I'm talking about the ones stuck in uploaded status. Nothing to do for those but wait for a fix?
 
Tobor said:
I’m replacing 100 or so albums of shitty 128kbps MP3’s with proper iTunes copies for $25. And my entire collection is now available wherever I go. So for me, yeah, it's worth it.
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This isn't a one off cost is it, you have to continue to pay for that (and any associated storage over the initial 5GB) on a yearly basis if you want access to the music?

I really need to look into this properly.
 
Number45 said:
This isn't a one off cost is it, you have to continue to pay for that (and any associated storage over the initial 5GB) on a yearly basis if you want access to the music?

I really need to look into this properly.
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No, there's no drm. You can keep the higher quality songs even if match expires.
 
I have a stupid question.

My uncle has been stuck in Asia since the summer, and he wants to update his iPhone 4 to iOS 5. But his main iTunes account with all of his songs, videos, etc. is on his desktop in the U.S., and if he connects his phone to a computer in Asia in order to download iOS 5, he'll lose all of the stuff on his phone. Is there any way to transfer the contents of his phone to a new computer so that he can download iOS 5 without losing anything on his phone?
 
Number45 said:
This isn't a one off cost is it, you have to continue to pay for that (and any associated storage over the initial 5GB) on a yearly basis if you want access to the music?

I really need to look into this properly.
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It can be one off if you want. You keep anything you downloaded if you cancel. The $25 each year is to maintain access to the cloud copies.

So yes, you could pay the $25, replace your music with legal DRM free copies, and cancel.
 
giga said:
No, there's no drm. You can keep the higher quality songs even if match expires.
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Tobor said:
It can be one off if you want. You keep anything you downloaded if you cancel. The $25 each year is to maintain access to the cloud copies.

So yes, you could pay the $25, replace your music with legal DRM free copies, and cancel.
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Thanks. And the *only* stuff that counts against the 5GB storage is music that doesn't already exist in the cloud? Might actually look into paying up on this, allows me to continue to buy hard copies (and archive them in FLAC format) and easy access from all devices. :)
 
Number45 said:
Thanks. And the *only* stuff that counts against the 5GB storage is music that doesn't already exist in the cloud? Might actually look into paying up on this, allows me to continue to buy hard copies (and archive them in FLAC format) and easy access from all devices. :)
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None of it counts against the 5 gb free storage. I have 15 GB uploaded (not matched) and my iCloud storage still says 4.6 GB free with only an iPad backup taking up space
 
Hmm, definitely going to look into it then. Still in the process of ripping my collection at the moment, but I'll check it out when I'm done.
 
So I bought it yesterday (from the UK) and am liking it so far!

I'm being really anal about it and doing an album at a time though, just to see how well it's matching things and making sure my tags and artwork are how I want them.

A tip for us new lot. In the music library, right click in the columns, then select iCloud Status to see what's been matched, and what's been uploaded. Out of the 124 songs I've put on so far, all but 4 have been matched. I can't seem to work out why the 4 haven't, because they're just random songs in an album (4 different albums) and there's nothing in the tags that separate them from the rest in the album.
 
iTunes Match is somewhat awesome because all my music is in the iCloud. But it is also annoying when it comes to displaying album artwork.

And the biggest thing is practically all of my explicit albums are now clean. Apparently iTunes Match can't decided whether you have a explicit version or clean. So it randomly chooses a version. It's annoying as fuck too. They need to fix this.
 
ecurbj said:
iTunes Match is somewhat awesome because all my music is in the iCloud. But it is also annoying when it comes to displaying album artwork.

And the biggest thing is practically all of my explicit albums are now clean. Apparently iTunes Match can't decided whether you have a explicit version or clean. So it randomly chooses a version. It's annoying as fuck too. They need to fix this.
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ouch. that sounds awful.

I gotta say, I can't remember a time when Apple has put out so many services and updates all at once which feel so unfinished. I mean, yes, itunes match works but it's buggy in all the user facing areas that Apple usually waits to get right.

edit: I've actualy turned off itunes match on the iphone as the album art and non-working genius issues bugged me too much.
 
LCfiner said:
ouch. that sounds awful.

I gotta say, I can't remember a time when Apple has put out so many services and updates all at once which feel so unfinished. I mean, yes, itunes match works but it's buggy in all the user facing areas that Apple usually waits to get right.

edit: I've actualy turned off itunes match on the iphone as the album art and non-working genius issues bugged me too much.
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I've disabled it as well, shit is annoying.

I think it's a case of they announced it prematurely and promised a release date, and felt like they needed to release something. Agreed that it's unusual for them to release something in such a buggy state.
 
LCfiner said:
ouch. that sounds awful.

I gotta say, I can't remember a time when Apple has put out so many services and updates all at once which feel so unfinished. I mean, yes, itunes match works but it's buggy in all the user facing areas that Apple usually waits to get right.

edit: I've actualy turned off itunes match on the iphone as the album art and non-working genius issues bugged me too much.
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You mean like when they released Mobile Me? Or Ping? :P

iTunes Match has some issues, no doubt, but the base of what they're offering is sound.

One thing I've noticed is that shuffling all songs on the iPhone shuffles everything, including stuff only in the cloud. Works fine if you leave it alone, but gets laggy if you start skipping around on 3G. I assume its pre-caching the next song, if need be. I need to prune more crap out of my library, that's for sure. lol.
 
RBH said:
I have a stupid question.

My uncle has been stuck in Asia since the summer, and he wants to update his iPhone 4 to iOS 5. But his main iTunes account with all of his songs, videos, etc. is on his desktop in the U.S., and if he connects his phone to a computer in Asia in order to download iOS 5, he'll lose all of the stuff on his phone. Is there any way to transfer the contents of his phone to a new computer so that he can download iOS 5 without losing anything on his phone?
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Anyone? :(
 
Tobor said:
You mean like when they released Mobile Me? Or Ping? :P

iTunes Match has some issues, no doubt, but the base of what they're offering is sound.

One thing I've noticed is that shuffling all songs on the iPhone shuffles everything, including stuff only in the cloud. Works fine if you leave it alone, but gets laggy if you start skipping around on 3G. I assume its pre-caching the next song, if need be. I need to prune more crap out of my library, that's for sure. lol.
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Oh yeah, Mobile Me was pretty bad. I actually forgot about that.

I suppose the difference in my mind is that mobile me just didn't work for a while. it was flat out broken. iTunes match works. but it's not fully baked.

One thing that I did not experiment with yet is the itunes match option to NOT show items that are not present on the device. I wonder if that would affect the way shuffling works
 
iTunes match launched internationally.

In Canada the price was $27.99. I bought a year. The initial scan of my ~11,500 songs (CD->MP3 rips over the last decade, purchases on iTunes and elsewhere, songs friends have sent me, stuff ripped from games) matched about 8500 songs. The ones it didn't match are totally random... single tracks from albums it otherwise totally matched, songs I know I have from iTunes. Any advice, or should I just let it upload them all... slowly?

In terms of errors I got all of the Chrono Trigger soundtrack giving me an error, a local jazz CD, "Can't Make a Sound" off Elliott Smith's Figure 8 (the rest of the album matched fine), and "Blue Collar" off the Best of the Bachman Turner Overdrive. I understand that I can either rerip these or do the AIFF->AAC conversion thing.

Additionally, a small number of songs are listed as completely ineligible for iTunes Match: "Darwin" off Third Eye Blind's Blue album (20:50 long--could track length be the cause?), "Waiting for VVVVVV", a 56 second song off the VVVVVV soundtrack, and the entire Sigur Ros () album, as well as "Wish You Were Here" by Incubus off Morning View. And that's it. I wish I understood why they were "ineligible".
 
So my dad's using iCloud for contacts and every contact he's added in the past few weeks has vanished. Wasn't even in his backup or control panel and there's no way to get them back from what I can tell. Has this happened to anyone else?
 
rozay said:
So my dad's using iCloud for contacts and every contact he's added in the past few weeks has vanished. Wasn't even in his backup or control panel and there's no way to get them back from what I can tell. Has this happened to anyone else?
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definitely not for me. that’s awful

can he go to iCloud.com and login there to see if it’s gone from the entire account?
 
Stumpokapow said:
Additionally, a small number of songs are listed as completely ineligible for iTunes Match: "Darwin" off Third Eye Blind's Blue album (20:50 long--could track length be the cause?), "Waiting for VVVVVV", a 56 second song off the VVVVVV soundtrack, and the entire Sigur Ros () album, as well as "Wish You Were Here" by Incubus off Morning View. And that's it. I wish I understood why they were "ineligible".
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The bit rate is too low (below 96kbps).
 
random question: my girlfriend is switching to iPhone from android, and the only thing she expects to miss is the google chat integration. is there a consensus for a decent substitute that lets you have "always-on" status for your google chat account?
 
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