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I dunno where to post this, I guess here is appropriate?

I wanted to rent Contagion on itunes but it isn't on HD from my laptop, only ipad/apple tv I think. I go to my iphone and its available for 5 bucks to rent it in HD. So I do that, assuming that the download would also start on my laptop but it hasn't.

When the download finishes, can I transfer the rental to my computer, right?
 
I dunno where to post this, I guess here is appropriate?

I wanted to rent Contagion on itunes but it isn't on HD from my laptop, only ipad/apple tv I think. I go to my iphone and its available for 5 bucks to rent it in HD. So I do that, assuming that the download would also start on my laptop but it hasn't.

When the download finishes, can I transfer the rental to my computer, right?

There's no HD movie rentals on PC/Mac
 
There's no HD movie rentals on PC/Mac

Actually figured it out, some movies can be rented for in HD, I just did so for Midnight in Paris and the Original Dragon Tattoo films.

The sticking point is that HD rentals bought on a ios device CAN NOT be transferred to itunes. Which is completely ludicrous
 
This made me chuckle

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My internet bandwidth usage from last month. That spike on the 16th was my iTunes Match redownloading of low bitrate files to 256 AAC (plus a few extra GB of uploading unmatched files)
 
Is there a way to have every app you ever downloaded not clogging up your hard drive and asking for updates in desktop iTunes? I actually deleted a bunch of these and then wondered if plugging my phone in would just erase those apps off the phone for good too...
 
Is there a way to have every app you ever downloaded not clogging up your hard drive and asking for updates in desktop iTunes? I actually deleted a bunch of these and then wondered if plugging my phone in would just erase those apps off the phone for good too...

just delete the apps in iTunes. it’ll move them to the trash then you can empty the trash.


if any of those apps happen to be installed on your iPhone, the next time you hook up the phone, iTunes will ask you to transfer those apps from the iPhone to the desktop. you can choose not to do this.
 
Re: iTunes Match.

Is the general consensus so far that iTunes Match is working fairly smoothly, albeit with some bugs?


1. The Explicit to Clean is a pretty huge bug though, so I will hold off until that is somehow fixed.

2. iCloud not recognizing songs that are clearly in the iTunes library is also an annoying bug.


Am I missing any significant bugs?
 
Re: iTunes Match.

Is the general consensus so far that iTunes Match is working fairly smoothly, albeit with some bugs?


1. The Explicit to Clean is a pretty huge bug though, so I will hold off until that is somehow fixed.

2. iCloud not recognizing songs that are clearly in the iTunes library is also an annoying bug.


Am I missing any significant bugs?

3. The uploading can be slow as hell. Not as in hours in some cases, but days or even weeks if your library is big enough.

4. There's also another error that I can't seem to figure out that where it just won't upload some things. You get an error message and that's it. I had to rerip almost my entire discography for In Flames. No Idea why.

5. There's another bug that seems to halt all uploads if it hits an error in a song. I had problems when I got a cd a bit ago when I was trying to put that up, and it kept getting stuck at 2 songs uploaded. I had to unplug my external HDD where all my music is and then restart iTunes so it thought nothing could be found, and then rip the cd so that it was the only thing it even tried to send up.

6. Artwork on my phone seems to be really really finicky. A ton of it doesn't show up at all. Some of it shows up for the album, but then individual songs don't have the same artwork for some reason. Sometimes that's fixed when I turn the phone to landscape view while playing it. Not sure why...

7. Changing the tags on songs sometimes takes ages to take affect if it even does so at all.


If you can get past the bugs and weird stuff it's a great service, though.
 
3. The uploading can be slow as hell. Not as in hours in some cases, but days or even weeks if your library is big enough.

4. There's also another error that I can't seem to figure out that where it just won't upload some things. You get an error message and that's it. I had to rerip almost my entire discography for In Flames. No Idea why.

5. There's another bug that seems to halt all uploads if it hits an error in a song. I had problems when I got a cd a bit ago when I was trying to put that up, and it kept getting stuck at 2 songs uploaded. I had to unplug my external HDD where all my music is and then restart iTunes so it thought nothing could be found, and then rip the cd so that it was the only thing it even tried to send up.

6. Artwork on my phone seems to be really really finicky. A ton of it doesn't show up at all. Some of it shows up for the album, but then individual songs don't have the same artwork for some reason. Sometimes that's fixed when I turn the phone to landscape view while playing it. Not sure why...

7. Changing the tags on songs sometimes takes ages to take affect if it even does so at all.


If you can get past the bugs and weird stuff it's a great service, though.

Is there any way to skip the physical uploading part? Maybe save it for later? My only goal with this service is to replace my older, lower bitrate rips with the iTunes ones. I have my entirely checked libraries on my iPhone and iPad anyway so I wouldn't really require songs to be uploaded (there are unchecked songs on iTunes that I don't want on my iOS devices anyway).

Also, can you elaborate on these artwork bugs? So right now I'd say about 70% of my albums I was able to use iTunes to download the artwork, the rest I had to manually import. If I have 100% of my songs that are checked on my iPhone and iPad regardless, would I still be hit with artwork bugs?


Appreciate the help!
 
Is there any way to skip the physical uploading part? Maybe save it for later? My only goal with this service is to replace my older, lower bitrate rips with the iTunes ones. I have my entirely checked libraries on my iPhone and iPad anyway so I wouldn't really require songs to be uploaded (there are unchecked songs on iTunes that I don't want on my iOS devices anyway).

Also, can you elaborate on these artwork bugs? So right now I'd say about 70% of my albums I was able to use iTunes to download the artwork, the rest I had to manually import. If I have 100% of my songs that are checked on my iPhone and iPad regardless, would I still be hit with artwork bugs?


Appreciate the help!

Theoretically yeah I suppose you could skip the last upload stage. I'm not entirely sure if that'll skip the uploading of some of the artwork, though.

The thing is that using Match on your phone and iPad are kind of all or nothing deals. If you match things and turn that on for your phone or iPad, then all the stuff you have checked will be gone. Well, theoretically it'll be gone. The phone doesn't delete it, and it'll use those files if you play from Match, but I think if it wasn't something that was ever uploaded to match it might not play at all, even though it's still there. I had a problem with that when I was first uploading things.

If you literally just want to Match things and then redownload new files on your computer ONLY and then sync those physically with your iPad and iPhone, then that should work just fine. You'll still run into the non-matching bugs, though, which'll probably be annoying as hell for you since your only reason is to update bitrates.

For the artwork bug that seems to be a problem with match. If I understand you correctly you'd still physically update from plugging your phone into your computer, right? If so then I think you'll have no artwork problems. The problem seems to come in with uploading the artwork to Match itself.
 
Does anyone here use Splashtop Remote on iOS5? This app works wonderful through WiFi, but I have no idea how to stream my computer desktop through 3g.

I've paired the app with google account, and as soon as I try to connect to my pc, the program tries to connect, but after 10-15 seconds, the app crashes and I am back at the home screen.
 
Theoretically yeah I suppose you could skip the last upload stage. I'm not entirely sure if that'll skip the uploading of some of the artwork, though.

The thing is that using Match on your phone and iPad are kind of all or nothing deals. If you match things and turn that on for your phone or iPad, then all the stuff you have checked will be gone. Well, theoretically it'll be gone. The phone doesn't delete it, and it'll use those files if you play from Match, but I think if it wasn't something that was ever uploaded to match it might not play at all, even though it's still there. I had a problem with that when I was first uploading things.

If you literally just want to Match things and then redownload new files on your computer ONLY and then sync those physically with your iPad and iPhone, then that should work just fine. You'll still run into the non-matching bugs, though, which'll probably be annoying as hell for you since your only reason is to update bitrates.

For the artwork bug that seems to be a problem with match. If I understand you correctly you'd still physically update from plugging your phone into your computer, right? If so then I think you'll have no artwork problems. The problem seems to come in with uploading the artwork to Match itself.

Yes, to both questions in Bold.

That's all I want to do. The non-matching bugs will certainly be annoying but I hope that it'll only be a very small percentage of matched music.

So for what I want to use iTunes Match for, would I need to turn OFF iTunes Match once I have replaced my lower quality songs and then go about things as usual as if I didn't have iTunes Match or can I leave it on?

Really appreciate all your help! This is helping me a lot.
 
what ?
just got an email telling my iCloud is almost full. to my knowledge I'm only using it for backups. I've never been to the iCloud website. what gives?
 
what ?
just got an email telling my iCloud is almost full. to my knowledge I'm only using it for backups. I've never been to the iCloud website. what gives?

Do you store a lot of music or photos on your iphone or ipad or both?
 
Yes, to both questions in Bold.

That's all I want to do. The non-matching bugs will certainly be annoying but I hope that it'll only be a very small percentage of matched music.

So for what I want to use iTunes Match for, would I need to turn OFF iTunes Match once I have replaced my lower quality songs and then go about things as usual as if I didn't have iTunes Match or can I leave it on?

Really appreciate all your help! This is helping me a lot.

You might have to turn it off after you redownload everything that was matched, since it might continually try and update and upload everything.
 
Do you store a lot of music or photos on your iphone or ipad or both?

I have a ton of music but it's not set to sync to iCloud. I haven taken about 1300 photos though. I guess that's it. I think I just want to turn off photo stream.
 
I have a ton of music but it's not set to sync to iCloud. I haven taken about 1300 photos though. I guess that's it. I think I just want to turn off photo stream.

well, just go to the iCloud management panel in the control panel and check the items that are taking up space. sometimes backups can eat up a lot of space if you're backing up photo rolls.

photo stream should not be taking up any space, IIRC
 
ahh, camera roll is 3.5gigs of the backup. hmm. weak.
 
ahh, camera roll is 3.5gigs of the backup. hmm. weak.

at least this is easy to fix.

just remove the camera roll from the backup within the iphone options. the rest of the phone gets backed up online, the photos are backed up on photo stream, and you get a bunch of space back.
 
lol. right?
it's weak because it's just one more thing I have to think about now. it's nice that it's free, but 5gigs is a joke.

anyway, I don't suppose I can wirelessly sync the photos to my MacBook, can I? dont they have to go through iCloud, and even then they only sync to iPhoto. which I don't have because it's lame. is there a way to sync the photos to just a normal folder wirelessly?

^not a bad tip but photo stream is only a thousand photos, right?
 
I'm still trying to figure out if photos are actually duplicated (and taking up twice the space) if you have the same photo in your camera roll and Photo Stream. Anyone know?
 
lol. right?
it's weak because it's just one more thing I have to think about now. it's nice that it's free, but 5gigs is a joke.

anyway, I don't suppose I can wirelessly sync the photos to my MacBook, can I? dont they have to go through iCloud, and even then they only sync to iPhoto. which I don't have because it's lame. is there a way to sync the photos to just a normal folder wirelessly?

^not a bad tip but photo stream is only a thousand photos, right?

OK, you need to read up on photo stream a little. it will only keep photos in the cloud for 30 days but once you sync them up with your Mac (you don't need to hook up the phone, just make sure you open iPhoto and ensure that photo stream is enabled) then you have them forever on the computer hard drive.
 
Thats exactly what I just said! (fwiw, photostream also has a 1000 photo limit)

If I'm doing local backups to my Mac I don't want to go through iCloud. Nor do I want to use iPhoto.



This is awful.
I don't care where my photos are backed up, I just don't want to manage it. However, I also refuse to use iPhoto. Because its a slow bloated piece of junk almost on the level of iTunes. I'm not going to do anything with them. I'm not going to look at them, or show them to friends or edit them. I just want them to sit there out of sight and out of mind.

iCloud was fine, but I'm not going to pay Apples outrageously offensive subscription fee. Maybe if it was one-off purchase of 99bucks for 60 gigs, but this is a yearly fee we're talking about. Subscription access to storage space you don't own. If they want people to actually use iCloud, they should make it free. Its not really that great of a benefit for anything outside of app data/preferences. I don't want my photos on iCloud, Apple wants my photos there. And they want to charge me an exorbitant fee for that "privilege." I just want my photos on my computer without using their crappy software. Something that has always been a pain. But is even more of a pain now that everything else is wireless. Imagine if the only way to sync music between your computer and phone was through iCloud. Oh but its the same thing, you'll say. You have to use an app to do that, so why do you have such a problem with using a different app to get the same functionality with photos? I would be happier if I didn't have to use iTunes either. iPhoto is also not free.

Its absurd that iCloud isn't a part of OSX. In theory having the photos go through iCloud and syncing to your desktop computer is great. But only if its a part of the OS. Its shoehorned into an embarrassingly-bad piece of software that not even my Mother would use. I just want my photos in a folder on my computer. No sluggish app front end. The only way to accomplish this is through image capture.
 
Thats exactly what I just said! (fwiw, photostream also has a 1000 photo limit)

If I'm doing local backups to my Mac I don't want to go through iCloud. Nor do I want to use iPhoto.



This is awful.
I don't care where my photos are backed up, I just don't want to manage it. However, I also refuse to use iPhoto. Because its a slow bloated piece of junk almost on the level of iTunes. I'm not going to do anything with them. I'm not going to look at them, or show them to friends or edit them. I just want them to sit there out of sight and out of mind.

iCloud was fine, but I'm not going to pay Apples outrageously offensive subscription fee. Maybe if it was one-off purchase of 99bucks for 60 gigs, but this is a yearly fee we're talking about. Subscription access to storage space you don't own. If they want people to actually use iCloud, they should make it free. Its not really that great of a benefit for anything outside of app data/preferences. I don't want my photos on iCloud, Apple wants my photos there. And they want to charge me an exorbitant fee for that "privilege." I just want my photos on my computer without using their crappy software. Something that has always been a pain. But is even more of a pain now that everything else is wireless. Imagine if the only way to sync music between your computer and phone was through iCloud. Oh but its the same thing, you'll say. You have to use an app to do that, so why do you have such a problem with using a different app to get the same functionality with photos? I would be happier if I didn't have to use iTunes either. iPhoto is also not free.

Its absurd that iCloud isn't a part of OSX. In theory having the photos go through iCloud and syncing to your desktop computer is great. But only if its a part of the OS. Its shoehorned into an embarrassingly-bad piece of software that not even my Mother would use. I just want my photos in a folder on my computer. No sluggish app front end. The only way to accomplish this is through image capture.
Wow. You've totally misunderstood how to use iCloud.
 
What's so bad about iPhoto? It works great, and with photo stream, automatically backs everything up by month. My Dad loves it.
 
Thats exactly what I just said! (fwiw, photostream also has a 1000 photo limit)

If I'm doing local backups to my Mac I don't want to go through iCloud. Nor do I want to use iPhoto.



This is awful.
I don't care where my photos are backed up, I just don't want to manage it. However, I also refuse to use iPhoto. Because its a slow bloated piece of junk almost on the level of iTunes. I'm not going to do anything with them. I'm not going to look at them, or show them to friends or edit them. I just want them to sit there out of sight and out of mind.

iCloud was fine, but I'm not going to pay Apples outrageously offensive subscription fee. Maybe if it was one-off purchase of 99bucks for 60 gigs, but this is a yearly fee we're talking about. Subscription access to storage space you don't own. If they want people to actually use iCloud, they should make it free. Its not really that great of a benefit for anything outside of app data/preferences. I don't want my photos on iCloud, Apple wants my photos there. And they want to charge me an exorbitant fee for that "privilege." I just want my photos on my computer without using their crappy software. Something that has always been a pain. But is even more of a pain now that everything else is wireless. Imagine if the only way to sync music between your computer and phone was through iCloud. Oh but its the same thing, you'll say. You have to use an app to do that, so why do you have such a problem with using a different app to get the same functionality with photos? I would be happier if I didn't have to use iTunes either. iPhoto is also not free.

Its absurd that iCloud isn't a part of OSX. In theory having the photos go through iCloud and syncing to your desktop computer is great. But only if its a part of the OS. Its shoehorned into an embarrassingly-bad piece of software that not even my Mother would use. I just want my photos in a folder on my computer. No sluggish app front end. The only way to accomplish this is through image capture.

Just go back to Windows and Android phone.

But, barring that, if you must keep the camera roll backed up and refuse to open up iphoto - even to back up and then forget about the photo stream photos - then just move the backups from the cloud to the Mac. it'll back up the camera roll and there's no space limitation. done.

if you ever lose a phone and need to restore from backup, the only difference is you need to plug the phone into a USB plug in your mac instead of a USB plug into a wall outlet to complete the restoration.
 
Wow. You've totally misunderstood how to use iCloud.


What am I misunderstanding?

You have iCloud. With 5 free gigs of backup. You can backup whatever you want to it. But to have storage space equivalent to the amount of space on your phone (basically to have a complete backup) you have to pay a hundred dollars a year.

Now, iCloud also talks to a few applications you run on your Macintosh. Most notably iPhoto and iTunes. This is where it gets slightly more complicated. You can have iCloud keep a running tab of the most recent 1000 photos or 30 days of photos in a thing called photostream. Photostream is free, but not a complete backup of your photos if you have more than a thousand. BUT, photostream syncs with iPhoto on your Macintosh. So in effect, it is creating a backup of your photos on your Macintosh. But it must be done through iPhoto.

So you are left with two options: pay for cloud back storage OR buy a piece of software you do not want and have it constantly running in the background.

The only way to get the photos off your phone and into a plainjane normal folder on your Macintosh's harddisk is through imagecapture. Which is the way it has always been, since iOS 1.0. Only now that the phone can wirelessly sync with your computer through your home network its a lot more annoying.


Do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way this is supposed to work? Because I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the way Apple wants me to use this service.


Just go back to Windows and Android phone.
LOL I've been a Mac user since Andy Rubin was still working at Danger.


But, barring that, if you must keep the camera roll backed up and refuse to open up iphoto - even to back up and then forget about the photo stream photos - then just move the backups from the cloud to the Mac. it'll back up the camera roll and there's no space limitation. done.
Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this.
 
^ Too bad you don't have a PC.. Lol. It does exactly what you want it to do. PhotoStream just gets automatically backed up to a folder, not a particular photo program.
 
What am I misunderstanding?

You have iCloud. With 5 free gigs of backup. You can backup whatever you want to it. But to have storage space equivalent to the amount of space on your phone (basically to have a complete backup) you have to pay a hundred dollars a year.

Now, iCloud also talks to a few applications you run on your Macintosh. Most notably iPhoto and iTunes. This is where it gets slightly more complicated. You can have iCloud keep a running tab of the most recent 1000 photos or 30 days of photos in a thing called photostream. Photostream is free, but not a complete backup of your photos if you have more than a thousand. BUT, photostream syncs with iPhoto on your Macintosh. So in effect, it is creating a backup of your photos on your Macintosh. But it must be done through iPhoto.

So you are left with two options: pay for cloud back storage OR buy a piece of software you do not want and have it constantly running in the background.

The only way to get the photos off your phone and into a plainjane normal folder on your Macintosh's harddisk is through imagecapture. Which is the way it has always been, since iOS 1.0. Only now that the phone can wirelessly sync with your computer through your home network its a lot more annoying.


Do I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way this is supposed to work? Because I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the way Apple wants me to use this service.



LOL I've been a Mac user since Andy Rubin was still working at Danger.
What? Where did you get that from? I paid $20 and it's more than enough space to backup my iPhone and iPad with everything turned on. I have 8.2 GB still available right now. You would need like 20 iPhones to use up $100 in iCloud storage.
 
I have a 64gig phone, I was just doing some simple math that in order to back up 55gigs of data you'd need the most expensive option. Obviously things like the music and stuff don't count towards it so I guess it iss slightly disingenuous. But I do take a lot of photos and video. I've had the phone for a month and a half and have already hit the limit. I have no doubts that 18 months from now I'll have, well, a lot more stuff to backup.
 
Well, thats enough ranting for this morning. God, that just really bugs the hell out of me. I can't believe its still an issue.
 
I have a 64gig phone, I was just doing some simple math that in order to back up 55gigs of data you'd need the most expensive option. Obviously things like the music and stuff don't count towards it so I guess it iss slightly disingenuous. But I do take a lot of photos and video. I've had the phone for a month and a half and have already hit the limit. I have no doubts that 18 months from now I'll have, well, a lot more stuff to backup.

Move some stuff out of your camera roll, turn the camera roll backup off, or pay for more storage. This isn't as big a deal as you're making it.

The camera roll is the only data intensive backup, the rest is virtual peanuts. Music doesn't count, video(that you didn't shoot yourself) doesn't count, and apps don't count.

It's a shame you hate iPhoto, it's the perfect solution for me. Once I get home all my pictures are backed up and I can delete them out of the camera roll.
 
Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this.

I mean don’t back up to icloud. backup to iTunes. change the backup location to the Mac and your camera roll will always be backed up and you don’t need to pay for more cloud storage ever and you always have full backups and you never have to think about photo stream or storage limits or anything like that again
 
Speaking of photos, I really wish there was a way that screenshots and saved photos from safari didn't get put in the same pile as the camera shots I actually want streamed. I tried making a separate album, but apparently that isn't an actual separation but more like an alias for organizing....
 
Can anyone explain why my Facebook app keeps getting larger and larger in size? Started at 48MB, then grew to a massive 800mb. Then there was an update, it went back to its original size, and now it's back up to 212mb (and growing). Is this normal?
 
Can anyone explain why my Facebook app keeps getting larger and larger in size? Started at 48MB, then grew to a massive 800mb. Then there was an update, it went back to its original size, and now it's back up to 212mb (and growing). Is this normal?

It's Documents & Data, cached video/images etc. Temp files should clear out when the process is terminated and/or phone is rebooted.

Mine never goes above 40-50mb personally but I barely use it.
 
This isn't as big a deal as you're making it.
I realize this, I woke up with a case of rage face yesterday morning. It still is a problem though. I know obviously that "force" is the wrong word, Apple is not forcing me to do anything. I just don't like feeling "forced" to use something I have no interest in using to get access to a relatively mundane feature. It just frustrates me to no end that there is no good (read: wireless) way to get photos off the phone without using iPhoto. There never was to begin with. From day one it was either iPhoto or the image-capture-ghetto. But now things are different, with how ardent Apple is about cutting the sync cable you'd think there would be some way to transfer photos to your Mac wirelessly. Even if it was through iTunes, you can certainly transfer photos TO the device wirelessly. So why not both ways?

I mean don’t back up to icloud. backup to iTunes. change the backup location to the Mac and your camera roll will always be backed up and you don’t need to pay for more cloud storage ever and you always have full backups and you never have to think about photo stream or storage limits or anything like that again
This looks to be my solution for the time being. Though I might also just settle for backing up manually with image capture twice a month or whatever.



For what its worth, I actually think Image Capture is a fine program.
 
I have a huge problem that really pisses me off. I just noticed this with podcast. It also happeneds with music. In music I have a Xmas playlist. Xmas is over so I unchecked the playlist. There are still songs from the playlist showing. On the podcast side its similar accept I do want some episodes of podcast on my iPod just not all of them but certain ones are showing when I only want one episode in most cases. I've tried to click the checkmark where it says Sync music, podcast to unsync then resync but that doesn't completely work. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Does anyone have a good suggestion for a To-Do List application?

My father received an iPad 2 for Christmas and is need of a good To-Do application. It doesn't need to be anything fancy. Simple and easy-to-use is preferable.

Any suggestions?
 
Does anyone have a good suggestion for a To-Do List application?

My father received an iPad 2 for Christmas and is need of a good To-Do application. It doesn't need to be anything fancy. Simple and easy-to-use is preferable.

Any suggestions?

The Reminders app?
 
Wow, the facebook app officially blows on this thing! I've killed the app, restarted my phone, and still it continues to grow. It's 242MB now, and shows no signs of slowing down. What gives?

Edit: Okay WTF, now the twitter app keeps closing out anytime I do anything. Hrowing really annoyed with all this.
 
Reminders is really not that great when used for To-Do lists. No way to organize them other than by date. So you just have a long list of reminders with no organization.
 
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