Support NeoGAF

[LCfiner]

....Yeah.

I figured the speaker thing out in my own mind about 15 minutes after I posted. And I thought "GAF will tar and feather me for my ignorance in the 4S thread."

it’s all done in love

Yup you can use Siri for dictation any time there's a keyboard.

I'm gonna take some low-light photos this evening to see how they come out.

cool, that’s what I thought.

looking forward to messing around with siri (though I heard some bad news that wolfram alpha integration might not be enabled for Canadian users. I need to check up on that)

 

[Sapiens]

it’s all done in love






cool, that’s what I thought.

looking forward to messing around with siri (though I heard some bad news that wolfram alpha integration might not be enabled for Canadian users. I need to check up on that)

When I asked for Justin Trudeau's age Wolfram Alpha Output it for me.

 

[Spiderjericho]

New iPhone user here. And i was wondering why one of the speakers wasn't working... I feel a bit dumb now

I have to seriously ask some of you. Do you think the handset's volume is a little lower than others?

And I guess the recommendation should be to hold the phone like right next to your ear?

Coming from my Blackberry Tour, this phone sounds low when I place the handset close to my mouth.

This isn't the case with speaker phone. When I went into the Sprint store, the sales rep said the same thing.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

I have to seriously ask some of you. Do you think the handset's volume is a little lower than others?

And I guess the recommendation should be to hold the phone like right next to your ear?

Coming from my Blackberry Tour, this phone sounds low when I place the handset close to my mouth.

This isn't the case with speaker phone. When I went into the Sprint store, the sales rep said the same thing.

Not from my personal experience. My 4S is noticeably louder then my 3GS.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

How much of a space hog are you guys finding the higher quality pictures and video to be? I've never come close to needing 32GB before (I don't store any video, and I limit my music to a small playlist) so I'm wondering if people feel it's necessary with the 4s. I don't suppose I take a ton of photos or video, but I can certainly see myself doing so with such a nice camera.

Someone posted earlier 1 hour of 1080p HD video is about 11 gigabytes. Unsure about photo size but 8MP is like a couple MB per photo?

 

[Technosteve]

The reserve your PHONE page on the apple store just blew up, le sigh

edit. And now everything is gone =(

 

[Gary Whitta]

The reserve your PHONE page on the apple store just blew up, le sigh

I'm shocked.

 

[Technosteve]

I'm shocked.

this is the last time i under estimate Apple's ability to sell, i thought the ipad 2 wasn't going to be popular a side grade over the first one. Welp show up to apple store on launch day with 400 other people =(. Show up to Apple store after work last week to pick up iphone 4s nope sold out, i should of gotten the 32 gig white when i had the chance =(

 

[pxleyes]

Add me to the list of those with phones that heat up. The metal becomes almost untouchable. May take it in by the end of the week if this continues.

 

[Keylime]

Not from my personal experience. My 4S is noticeably louder then my 3GS.

I'd echo this. My iPhone 4S seems quite a bit louder.

 

[Raitosaito]

this is the last time i under estimate Apple's ability to sell, i thought the ipad 2 wasn't going to be popular a side grade over the first one. Welp show up to apple store on launch day with 400 other people =(. Show up to Apple store after work last week to pick up iphone 4s nope sold out, i should of gotten the 32 gig white when i had the chance =(

I'm not sure if it's my area or anything but I didn't preorder my 4S, I just went around 3 in the afternoon and asked for a white one, I could care less what size. Turned out my Apple Store had every variation for every carrier while at the same time being packed to then bone. I thought this time Apple figured out how many iPhones to supply to quell demand.

 

[StopMakingSense]

I'm using a mac and have zero problems with iTunes. My big gripe is that, to my knowledge, I can only choose options for ALL of my podcasts, instead of being able to choose specific parameters for what gets pushed to my phone.

For instance, The Tobolowsky Files is something I like to listen to in order, because sometimes he references old stories in each episode. On the other hand, something like the /Filmcast or Filmspotting I want to listen to as they update each week. Currently iTunes only allows me to choose to update the 10 most recent or the 10 least recent, for instance, but not some combination where I get the 10 most recent of Filmspotting but the 10 least recent of The Tobolowsky Files.

Instacast. Or one of the other podcasting clients that are far superior to using the music app and iTunes.

 

[Kaidfather]

I'm completely sold on Siri.

This afternoon on my drive home from the office I got an email from a client requesting a time change on their appointment. Using Siri while driving I was able to reply to the client confirming the time change, was also able to reschedule the appointment in my calendar, and then text message my coworker informing him of the time change - it all worked flawlessly and took less then 2 minutes to complete.

 

[mandiller]

I have to seriously ask some of you. Do you think the handset's volume is a little lower than others?

And I guess the recommendation should be to hold the phone like right next to your ear?

Coming from my Blackberry Tour, this phone sounds low when I place the handset close to my mouth.

This isn't the case with speaker phone. When I went into the Sprint store, the sales rep said the same thing.

No, the phone's volume doesn't sound low. I came from an old Nokia to this.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

I'm completely sold on Siri.

This afternoon on my drive home from the office I got an email from a client requesting a time change on their appointment. Using Siri while driving I was able to reply to the client confirming the time change, was also able to reschedule the appointment in my calendar, and then text message my coworker informing him of the time change - it all worked flawlessly and took less then 2 minutes to complete.

If you don't mind, can you post what you said to Siri and how it flowed? I'm thinking about getting a 4S on Friday.

 

[Ravidrath]

So figured this was as good a place as any to ask this...

Is there any way to get iCloud to sync all my various work and personal e-mail accounts across all devices?

I'd really like my e-mail to be "Read" on all devices when I read it on one.

Also, related to this, I'd like to find a way to get all of my e-mail spam filtered... Is there any way I can get Mail on my desktop to delete only the spam from my e-mail server, so I don't have to deal with it on my phone or iPad?

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

You think the next iPhone will be USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt compatible?

 

[mastershake]

Well i picked up some goodies today from the Apple store. I got two cases and a wallet thing. So far i am loving the iPhone wallet. I got the black one on the left.

It offers great protection and my iphone snaps in/out pretty quick so i can have awesome protection when its in my pocket but still keep in naked when im using it. It also has a few slots on the inside for ID's/CC's and such.

Here are the two cases i picked up... I might take the white one back but i love the black one. I'm a sucker for winter/seasonal type stuff.

I effin love my 4S so far... Siri is amazing and so much fun to play around with.

 

[The Lamonster]

This post was written entirely using Siri dictation I hope it turns out alright. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

 

[mastershake]

This post was written entirely using Siri dictation I hope it turns out alright. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

If you really want to have fun, use a real heavy accent and see what ends up being typed. Then send them to your friends. Sometimes confusing, sometimes funny, always a good time

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Finally killed my battery, took about 8 hours 20 minutes of usage today. I found that it improved further after I went to Settings > Location Services > System Services and switched off 'Setting Time Zone', which is a permanently purple location service.

Pretty good all in all, definitely on par with what I used to get from the iPhone 4 now that I've got it set up similarly.

 

[Pachterballs]

wow. the battery life on this thing drops so bloody fast. Its pretty amazing how fast it drains the battery. I don't think handheld tech is ready for the A5 chip. Its okay in the ipad as there's 2 batteries (?) but here.... man, it goes down so quick

 

[Cloudy]

So I got a bumper on Amazon for like $3 and it looks and fits great. Why the hell are people paying $30 for these from Apple? lol

 

[Evlar]

Finally killed my battery, took about 8 hours 20 minutes of usage today. I found that it improved further after I went to Settings > Location Services > System Services and switched off 'Setting Time Zone', which is a permanently purple location service.

That's interesting... Mine's on, but it's not purple. In fact, there's currently no Location Services icon next to it at all.

 

[miketrav87]

Anyone have any idea how the sound quality on video recording of the new iPhone 4S improves over the iPhone 4? One of the best parts about the iPhone 4 camera is that the audio the camera captured at concerts was so much better than 3GS and could handle some pretty loud bass at concerts. Does the 4S improve on it or is it just the same?

 

[Cloudy]

wow. the battery life on this thing drops so bloody fast. Its pretty amazing how fast it drains the battery. I don't think handheld tech is ready for the A5 chip. Its okay in the ipad as there's 2 batteries (?) but here.... man, it goes down so quick

I was dealing with the same thing as well and disabling push, setting fetch to manual and reducing the brightness a bit (with auto turned on) has helped a great deal (In addition to turning off location services for everything but Siri, weather and maps)

Currently at 64% with 2hrs, 27minutes usage and 4 hours, 55 minutes standby since the last charge. I haven't used Siri in that time though. A car charger is definitely needed with this IMO.

ps: For some reason, it won't charge with the generic usb car charger I used with my old phone :\

 

[Ermac]

My iTunes wasn't putting music on my phone so I decided to do a restore from last week.

Everything's cool but my mail app won't open at all. Just kicks me back to the homescreen (no mail is pushed either)

Anyone have this problem? I tried a soft reset.

 

[RBH]

Actual cellular voice and data performance was consistently stronger in our main Western New York testing area with AT&T than with Verizon, and with Verizon over Sprint. In each place we visited, the iPhone 4S offered approximately twice the speed on AT&T than it did with Verizon, while Verizon maintained a smaller edge over Sprint. Our main office in East Amherst, New York saw AT&T speeds averaging 2.5Mbps for downloading and 0.8Mbps for uploading, versus 0.6Mbps/0.25Mbps for Verizon, and 0.4Mbps/0.2Mbps for Sprint. We journeyed an hour away to Rochester, New York and saw each phone performing even better: the AT&T iPhone 4S averaged 4.8Mbps for downloading and 1.1Mbps for uploading, versus an average of 2Mbps/0.9Mbps for Verizon, and 1.75Mbps/0.8Mbps for Sprint. No matter where we tested the three phones, at what level of bars they read—and they were surprisingly consistent in this regard in the places where we tested them—the AT&T phone always did the best on average, and the Sprint phone always was the slowest.

In comparative calls using AT&T iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S models, we and our callers noted only small differences between the two models: the speakerphone on the iPhone 4S is noticeably louder than the ones on two iPhone 4 units we tested, and callers reported that we sounded a little louder to them on the 4S than on the 4—both differences could be explained by degradation of the older iPhone 4 speakers and mics, but we think that there are most likely actual improvements in the newer hardware. The differences between iPhone 4S units were less apparent. Callers told us that voice calls between the three were virtually indistinguishable when we switched from network to network, with only a small edge in one characteristic—say, loudness—that was offset by another small edge in a different characteristic, such as intelligibility. Our conclusion is thus straightforward: if you’re in an area where all three networks are available and where complaints of dropped calls are few and far between, you’ll most likely get the best performance from AT&T. If there are complaints about AT&T dropped calls where you live, go with Verizon. Pick Sprint only if you have no better option.

It’s also worth a brief mention that the iPhone 4S’s ringer silent switch has been paired with a similar vibration motor to the one found in the CDMA iPhone 4, rather than the one in the GSM iPhone 4. At the time of the CDMA iPhone 4’s release, it became apparent that the revised motor was just as capable of producing a noticeable vibration effect, but had less of a tendency to make the iPhone jiggle itself off of a flat surface. This is a minor but welcome change.

Perhaps the biggest surprise in our iPhone 4S testing was its battery life. We suspected that something unusual was going on when Apple published its initial iPhone 4S battery life estimates, which oddly showed the new device improving in 3G talk time, standing still in 3G Internet use, and falling behind in both standby time and Wi-Fi Internet use. How could the new device improve or stand still in some categories and fall short in others that were seemingly related? After three days of non-stop testing, we had a clear answer: the iPhone 4S is generally more power hungry than the iPhone 4, and Apple has only made the slightest capacity improvement to the iPhone 4S’s battery. Moreover, whereas Apple underpromised with the iPhone 4’s battery estimates, it comes closer to overpromising with the iPhone 4S.

Cellular Data: Apple promises up to 6 hours of 3G Internet use, equivalent to its promise for the iPhone 4. Whereas our AT&T iPhone 4 previously surpassed Apple’s estimate with a 6 hour and 47 minute run time, all of the iPhone 4S units we tested fell at least a little short: each with signal strength in the 3- to 4-bar range, our AT&T iPhone 4S achieved a 5:54 run time, while the Verizon iPhone 4S pulled off a virtually equivalent 5:53, and the Sprint iPhone 4S fell markedly behind at 5:23. The good news here is that the iPhone 4S essentially matches what Apple claims, but it drains more power than last year’s model. Moreover, we didn’t see any actual download speed improvements over the three cellular networks, so it’s not as if users will be able to get more done over less time. Sprint’s poor battery performance was compounded by its slow data speeds, suggesting that users of this network will get hit with the double whammy of sluggish performance and lower longevity. It’s also noteworthy that neither Verizon nor Sprint allows cellular data to be used when making phone calls, a feature that’s only offered by AT&T.

Wi-Fi Data: Apple promises up to 9 hours of Wi-Fi Internet use, down from 10 hours on the iPhone 4, which notably had fallen well short of the company’s estimate during our real world testing last year. Whereas the iPhone 4 previously ran for 8 hours and 35 minutes on a mixed 802.11b/g/n network, our iPhone 4S achieved exactly 8 hours and 30 minutes of run time, which is to say that it still fell a little behind Apple’s estimates. (Note that we retested a 16-month-old iPhone 4 on iOS 5.0; even with its battery weakened from more than a year of daily usage, it still achieved a remarkable 8 hour, 18 minute run time.)

Cellular Calling: Apple now promises up to 8 hours of 3G calling time with the iPhone 4S, up from 7 on the iPhone 4. Last year, our AT&T iPhone 4 ran for 7 hours and 6 minutes with 3G and Wi-Fi on, adding only a little extra time if Wi-Fi was off. Apple does appear to have improved the iPhone 4S’s cellular efficiency, at least on two networks. Our AT&T iPhone 4S achieved a 7 hour and 16 minute run time with 3G and Wi-Fi on, while the Verizon iPhone 4S actually ran for 8 hours and 27 minutes, both superior to our prior results on the iPhone 4. By contrast, the Sprint iPhone 4S turned in an amazingly weak 6 hours and 27 minutes—two hours less than the Verizon iPhone. Again, all three of the devices reported between 3 and 4 bars of service during testing, though the Verizon phone notably showed four bars the most often.

It’s worth noting that Apple has dropped the promised standby time from 300 hours on the iPhone 4 down to 200 hours on the iPhone 4S, while promising the same 14 hours of 2G/EDGE calling time. However, the iPhone 4S’s settings menus currently do not include any conspicuous way to switch back to EDGE on the AT&T iPhone 4S, a feature that was previously on the GSM iPhone 4, 3GS, and 3G, but not on the CDMA iPhone 4. It’s unclear as to whether this feature will be re-enabled in a later iOS 5 update for AT&T devices.

Audio: Apple promises up to 40 hours of audio playback with the device at 50% volume and its screen mostly off, equivalent to its claims for the iPhone 4. While the iPhone 4 blew past this estimate with a run time of 52 hours and 45 minutes, the iPhone 4S only barely beat Apple’s claim with a time of 41 hours and 20 minutes—better than the company’s promise, but well below what we saw last year. Incidentally, the iPhone 4S’s audio sounded great through the highest-end headphones, speakers, and wireless systems we tested it with.

Video: Apple promises up to 10 hours of video playback with the screen at 50% brightness and the volume at 50%, the same as for the iPhone 4. While the iPhone 4 easily surpassed that number with an 11 hour, 14 minute performance, our iPhone 4S tested out at 10 hours and 32 minutes running the same videos under the same testing conditions—once again, lower than the iPhone 4, but slightly above Apple’s estimate.

FaceTime: Once again, Apple makes no promises as to the iPhone 4S’s battery life for FaceTime video calling over Wi-Fi. Our test of the iPhone 4 last year showed battery loss of 30% per hour, or 3 hours and 10 minutes of total battery life. Under the same testing conditions, the iPhone 4S turned in an almost identical FaceTime run time of 3 hours and 15 minutes—ever so slightly better.

1080p Video Recording: Last year, the iPhone 4 was able to record 720p movies for 3 hours and 3 minutes before its battery ran out. The iPhone 4S was able to record 1080p movies for a much shorter period—only 2 hours and 20 minutes—though it’s worth noting that it’s actually capturing more than twice the amount of data, such that an empty 16GB iPhone 4S will run out of capacity after roughly an hour and twenty minutes of recording at that resolution. It would be helpful for Apple to include a resolution setting option, particularly if it might reduce both capacity and battery drain.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/apple-iphone-4s-16gb-32gb-64gb/P5



Sorry if old.

 

[Kaidfather]

If you don't mind, can you post what you said to Siri and how it flowed? I'm thinking about getting a 4S on Friday.

I don't have screens of it but it went like this

I had the email from my client on the screen - I was also wearing my headset so the phone was able to hear me clearer while driving - i then held the home button to bring Siri up - i said "reply to email" - it said "ok what would you like to say" -I told it to say "Sure we can reschedule not a problem" it typed the email up and then asked me if it was ok to send which I replied with yes. I then said "reschedule appointment" it brought up a list of my upcoming appointments in which I then selected the one that was being rescheduled. It asked me when to reschedule it to and I told it the new day and time("tomorrow at 12:30"). Finally I said "send a text message to my coworker" - it said "ok sending a text message to coworker, what would you like to say" tomorrow's 2 pm appointment rescheduled for tomorrow at 12:30" then send - it worked great and I can see it saving me tons of time in the future.

 

[grap3fruitman]

I'm really hating the 4S and Apple right now. If I buy a phone, I should expect it to work for at least a day, right? And then I waited at the Apple Store for nearly two hours before I didn't even get it looked at and they closed. Kind of frustrated right now...

 

[Tron 2.0]

I'm really hating the 4S and Apple right now. If I buy a phone, I should expect it to work for at least a day, right? And then I waited at the Apple Store for nearly two hours before I didn't even get it looked at and they closed. Kind of frustrated right now...

That sucks. Did you make an appointment at the Apple Store or did you just head in? I'd recommend making an appointment before going down. That way you know you'll be seen.

 

[grap3fruitman]

I tried to make an appointment but, of course, no one picks up so I just headed in after work thinking they wouldn't be able to ignore me like a phone call.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

I don't have screens of it but it went like this

I had the email from my client on the screen - I was also wearing my headset so the phone was able to hear me clearer while driving - i then held the home button to bring Siri up - i said "reply to email" - it said "ok what would you like to say" -I told it to say "Sure we can reschedule not a problem" it typed the email up and then asked me if it was ok to send which I replied with yes. I then said "reschedule appointment" it brought up a list of my upcoming appointments in which I then selected the one that was being rescheduled. It asked me when to reschedule it to and I told it the new day and time("tomorrow at 12:30"). Finally I said "send a text message to my coworker" - it said "ok sending a text message to coworker, what would you like to say" tomorrow's 2 pm appointment rescheduled for tomorrow at 12:30" then send - it worked great and I can see it saving me tons of time in the future.

Thanks. Sounds awesome.

 

[leng jai]

I tried to make an appointment but, of course, no one picks up so I just headed in after work thinking they wouldn't be able to ignore me like a phone call.

You can schedule appointments online I think.

 

[Particle Physicist]

I tried to make an appointment but, of course, no one picks up so I just headed in after work thinking they wouldn't be able to ignore me like a phone call.

Make an appointment online. Or through the Apple Store app, if your phone works enough for that.

 

[Kimosabae]

May as well ask here: anyone know any software that can easily jailbreak an iPhone 3G?

 

[mastershake]

Does anyone else enjoy saying "Thank you Siri" as much as me? She's always so nice and sometimes i forget im talking to some silly voice recognition thing. Sometimes you have these perfect convo's that feel entirely organic. It's more fun than it should be!

"You're very welcome"
"I aim to please"
"Thats nice of you to say"
"I live to serve"
"Your satisfaction is all the thanks i need"

It always seems to be something different and i love it.

Spoiler

I'm weird

 

[Bgamer90]

Don't get how so many are having battery problems with the 4S. Do you guys have e-mail set to push?

The last time I fully charged my 4S was about 15 hours ago and my battery life is currently at 20% (I'm about to charge it).

 

[Chuck (Old)]

Why does iMovie request my location in order to let me edit video?

 

[SuicideUZI]

Could someone help me with this?

My iPhone 4S is supposed to be delivered tomorrow, and it figures it would be a day that I have to work 11am - 11pm. So I was gonna try to do the "hold at a fedex location" thing and go pick it up when I get a break at work.

The problem is my account has 2 lines, and I used the other persons line to do the upgrade because she was eligible for a full discount and mine isn't until January, so if it puts her name on the package instead of my name then I wouldn't be able to pick it up myself at FedEX because they require a photo ID for pickup, but if it just puts the account owners name on the package then I'd be fine because the account is in my name.

So does anyone know for sure who's name will be on the package?

 

[Tobor]

Why does iMovie request my location in order to let me edit video?

There's a map animation in it. Like an old movie where it draws a line on a map to show where the clip was shot.

 

[Takamura-San]

I got rid of my sprint iPhone and moved to verizon.

The speeds on the spring were a joke.

The only thing now is that the signal of verizon is very iffy at my apt.

 

[Pyrokai]

Could someone help me with this?

My iPhone 4S is supposed to be delivered tomorrow, and it figures it would be a day that I have to work 11am - 11pm. So I was gonna try to do the "hold at a fedex location" thing and go pick it up when I get a break at work.

The problem is my account has 2 lines, and I used the other persons line to do the upgrade because she was eligible for a full discount and mine isn't until January, so if it puts her name on the package instead of my name then I wouldn't be able to pick it up myself at FedEX because they require a photo ID for pickup, but if it just puts the account owners name on the package then I'd be fine because the account is in my name.

So does anyone know for sure who's name will be on the package?

If you're on Verizon, I can tell you that Verizon tends to put everything in the account owner's name. Emails and all that seem to only be addressed to the account holder.

 

[SuicideUZI]

If you're on Verizon, I can tell you that Verizon tends to put everything in the account owner's name. Emails and all that seem to only be addressed to the account holder.

I'm on AT&T. It never gave me an option when i ordered the phone to change anything but I didn't think it'd be an issue, but when I go to the order status page on ATT it shows the other person name instead of mine so i have no idea who's name will be on the package

 

[mastershake]

I got rid of my sprint iPhone and moved to verizon.

The speeds on the spring were a joke.

The only thing now is that the signal of verizon is very iffy at my apt.

How bad were your speeds on Sprint?

 

[Spiderjericho]

Wow at the data in that article. iPad 2 improved the battery life and performance over the last generation while the 4S improves performance but has worse battery life (even though they claim better).

I have Sprint iPhone and am the red headed step child. My only solace is unlimited slow data.

 

[Gaming Truth]

I was dealing with the same thing as well and disabling push, setting fetch to manual and reducing the brightness a bit (with auto turned on) has helped a great deal (In addition to turning off location services for everything but Siri, weather and maps)

Currently at 64% with 2hrs, 27minutes usage and 4 hours, 55 minutes standby since the last charge. I haven't used Siri in that time though. A car charger is definitely needed with this IMO.

ps: For some reason, it won't charge with the generic usb car charger I used with my old phone :\

My sister noticed that top with her 4S (I'm a 4 owner). In addition to disabling push, I had her shut Spotlight Search completely off. I learned the hard way during the iOS debacle that Spotlight Search is a resource hog and is probably draining your battery.

I'm hoping it helps her, but thought I'd share that here too

 

[ltse1]

Yikes, should I stay away from a Sprint iPhone? Is it that bad?

 

[Spiderjericho]

Yikes, should I stay away from a Sprint iPhone? Is it that bad?

Sprint has the worst service out of the three. And it seems to suffer the worse battery and data rates.

But...you do get unlimited texting and data if you get the everything plan.

I looked at the AT&T and Verizon plans and they definitely nickel and dime you.

 

[QualityPixel]

Anybody pre-order their 4s on Monday the 10th with ATT and have it ship yet? Mine is sitting on back order...