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criesofthepast said:
$450 easily if you time it right. iPhone 4 is going for that price on craigslist and the 4S has already been announced. Time it just before the announcement of the iPhone 5 and I'd say $500 could be possible. Thats what I'm planning on doing.

edit: oh, you said 64gb. Hmm. More than $500.
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Not bad. Thanks. I'm surprised how much value these things seem to hold when the new one comes around. It's a good motivation to take care of it too.
 
bdizzle said:
Not sure why you're shocked, apple has never really put the latest tech in their phones
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They put the latest tech that makes sense cand can benefit the most users, not tech solely for a bullet point that most people can't take advantage of. And really, iPhone 4 wasn't the latest tech? It was the best performing phone with the nicest screen around for a long, long time and still holds up to the newest phone out there. 960x640 on a 3.5 screen is impressive today, as it was impressive a year and a half ago when the phone launched.
 
Apple products maintain value like nothing else. I sold my 1 year old Macbook Pro last year for $1300. Mint condition of course. I paid $1500 or something like that for it.
 
RadioShack is accepting pre-orders tomorrow. Neat. I've had so many people call and ask me if they can come get them from us.
 
BigNastyCurve said:
32GB has been plenty for my iPhone 4. Don't think I need more than that.
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as long as you aren't recording video, the 32 is fantastic. perfect, really.

but that damn video, man. it's like 70MB/minute. Something like that. It's not a problem if you don't add any music or movies to the phone, but after 15GB of music and a couple of movies, videos were mighty short. :-)

I assume 1080p will be around 100MB/minute. Assuming I'd want a good majority of my library on the phone, a 64GB would leave me with about 5 hours worth of space for 1080p video recording.

I like that a lot.
 
criesofthepast said:
Apple products maintain value like nothing else. I sold my 1 year old Macbook Pro last year for $1300. Mint condition of course. I paid $1500 or something like that for it.
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If that is so, it almost seems to be the case that it's financially smarter to buy the yearly upgrade of Apple products and sell the old one while it still has value. I usually buy an upgrade every 3-4 years.. but by that point my old product has no resell value and the new product is all out of pocket expense.... I probably pay more over the long term :P
 
Guys I think I'm not getting one, I was dead set on it - but yeah :(

I wish you all luck in your preordering.
 
Found a breakdown of 1080p video vs. iPhone storage:

http://whenwillapple.com/blog/2011/...-and-1080p-hd-video-should-i-go-32gb-or-64gb/

Video
Here is the same formula as last year for calculating the size in kilobytes (KB) of one frame of uncompressed video:

Code: 
Frame size K = ( [Pixel Width x Pixel Height x Bit Depth] / 8 ) / 1024

Where 8 represents an 8-bit byte, and 1024 equals the number of bytes per kilobytes.

To determine the file size of one second of uncompressed video, multiply the image size by the number of frames per second (fps).

To determine how compression affects file size, divide the file size by the compression ratio.

Last year I used a final estimate of 60:1 compression ratio. This turned out to be very close to actual video. My estimate for iPhone 4 720p HD video was 79MB a minute and real videos came out to about 83MB. About 1 MB of this difference could be the audio recording, so only about 3 MB off. This little amount could easily vary depending on what you are recording and how well the compression can work. So I’m going to go with the same 60:1 compression ratio for calculations this year.

Code: 
iPhone 4S video size per 1 min of video at 1080p (1920 x 1080):

( [1920 x 1080 x 24] / 8 ) / 1024 = 6075 KB / frame

6075 KB/frame x 30 frames/sec = 182250 KB/sec

182250 KB/sec  /  60 compression ratio = 3037.5 KB/s compressed

3037.5 KB/sec compressed * 60 s / min * 1 MB / 1024 KB = 177.98 MB / min

Comparing the iPhone 4S 178 MB / min number to the iPhone 4 calculated number of 79MB / min, the iPhone 4S 1080p video takes up about 2.5 times as much space as the iPhone 4. So using a more moderate estimate of keeping 60 minutes of video on your camera roll you are looking at 10.4 GB of storage vs 4.6 GB for the iPhone 4, so that can add up quick.
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I'm honestly not certain how accurate it is so make your own judgment calls.
 
BocoDragon said:
If that is so, it almost seems to be the case that it's financially smarter to buy the
yearly upgrade of Apple products and sell the old one while it still has value. I usually buy an upgrade every 3-4 years.. but by that point my old product has no resell value... I probably pay more over the long term :P
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Same here. I've kept my 3G too long and now will be lucky to get $150.

Reminder to everyone: Enable express/1-click checkout on your apple account!! May be the difference between getting one and not getting one.
 
I want to get the 4s, but on Craiglist I already lower the price of my iPhone 4 to only 350$ and no bite. This is a 16gb only, so maybe that's the case.

And on Ebay I was scammed by one of those fake "Indian" bids, so I don't want that again. And Amazon billed me for a seller membership without my permission, and had to go through a whole process with their investigation department so I rather not go there either.

I know I'm running out of options to sell my phone, but can anyone on GAF me a place to get rid of my phone for a good price?
 
Not sure if I should get...

I just lost my 64gb iPod touch (fml) and I need a new iPod.. My current phone also sucks.

However, I don't like the idea of signing a contract, and also paying more each month for my phone (right now it's $25, would go up to at least $55). I might just buy another iPod...
 
Gooster said:
Found a breakdown of 1080p video vs. iPhone storage:

http://whenwillapple.com/blog/2011/...-and-1080p-hd-video-should-i-go-32gb-or-64gb/



I'm honestly not certain how accurate it is so make your own judgment calls.
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Assume it's very accurate. it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. 1080p is exactly 2.25x the pixel resolution of 720p.

78MB/s (iPhone 4) * 2.25 = 175.5.


so yea, it's quite likely that the 4S captures at 170+ MB/s. Again I say, the more GB you can afford, the more you should get.
 
IronFistedChampion said:
That SUCKS!

I'm going with the 32GB, I have a 16GB 3GS right now.
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I'm going to sleep now though I think, and just having my phone wake me up at 2:45. I am REALLY scared that I'll sleep through it, though.

I'm also going with the 32GB.
 
chickdigger802 said:
Curious if there are setting options for video. 1080p is gonna kill your 16gb iphone =P
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Doubt it, not very Apple-like, and plus it incentivizes people to pay extra for the higher-end iPhones with more storage. Would be a nice feature though.
 
JackEtc said:
I'm going to sleep now though I think, and just having my phone wake me up at 2:45. I am REALLY scared that I'll sleep through it, though.

I'm also going with the 32GB.
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I know a lot of people hate this show but, I'm just gonna stay up watching the new episode of Jersey Shore to make sure I don't fall asleep lol.
 
By the way, what color is everyone getting? I'm going with Black because most of my electronics are Black and the White would stick out like a sore thumb; Not to mention Black is a bit cleaner. Plus I got used to my Black iPhone 3GS...
 
IronFistedChampion said:
By the way, what color is everyone getting? I'm going with Black because most of my electronics are Black and the White would stick out like a sore thumb; Not to mention Black is a bit cleaner.
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My last iPhone was black and I usually opt for black... but I'm definitely going for white this time. I just want a fresh new feel.
 
I may wait a little bit. When I start at Best Buy soon, my employee discount won't kick in for another month. I don't know if the discount applies to smartphones, though- I'm going to ask at orientation.

I know what I want, though. 64GB, black, and a Otterbox Camo Defender case.
 
twinturbo2 said:
I may wait a little bit. When I start at Best Buy soon, my employee discount won't kick in for another month. I don't know if the discount applies to smartphones, though- I'm going to ask at orientation.

I know what I want, though. 64GB, black, and a Otterbox Camo Defender case.
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I don't believe you'll get any discount... unless you want a discount on the warranty. I worked for Best Buy Canada for years and iPhones never had any discounts... nor did any other Apple products or other phones. BB doesn't make a profit on these items, believe it or not, so there's nothing to discount. You just get decent discounts on cases and accessories.
 
IronFistedChampion said:
By the way, what color is everyone getting? I'm going with Black because most of my electronics are Black and the White would stick out like a sore thumb; Not to mention Black is a bit cleaner. Plus I got used to my Black iPhone 3GS...
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Getting a white 32gb. I had black for my 2g and white for 3gs.
 
Raitosaito said:
No one wants to help me sell my phone T_T
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Don't know man. Everyone is selling their iPhones right now. You throwing in your case and original box w/ everything in it? That may help. Unfortunately you either lower your price even more or wait till the hype dies down and try selling it in a month and see if you get any bites.

Also, now I'm tempted of buying white but everyone says it's for girls. ¬¬
 
MercuryLS said:
Finally, a case for the redneck whitetrash market.
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I live near a bunch of rednecks and white trash, it'll help me fit in while I whip my baby out and play the Bjork app.

BocoDragon said:
I don't believe you'll get any discount... unless you want a discount on the warranty. I worked for Best Buy Canada for years and iPhones never had any discounts... nor did any other Apple products or other phones. BB doesn't make a profit on these items, believe it or not, so there's nothing to discount. You just get decent discounts on cases and accessories.
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Guess I'd better sell some knicknacks and donate blood plasma, then. I still want one, now I need to raise the $400...
 
I placed my pre-order for a black 64GB earlier this morning with SoftBank. They can't guarantee I'll get it on the 14th though. But I was the first to get my pre-order in this morning (thanks to wifes sister working there) so who knows.

I also heard that the KDDI (AU) iPhone 4S will be limited to a slow 3Mbps down while SoftBank's 4S will get 14Mbps down. So sucks for anyone who wanted it with AU...
 
Lmao @ "White iPhone is for girls."

First I've ever heard of that.

Was set on white but was debating black earlier today... May still go white!
 
IronFistedChampion said:
You wanna feel like a girl this time around? Lol jk!
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Lol. While black is kinda masculine, I don't think white is feminine. Nor would I care anyway. Actually, white electronics remind me of oldschool import Japanese consoles like the white PC engine, white Saturn... as well as the OG iPod of course. It has a connotation of "futuristic" in my mind.. but that could be an outdated notion. Anyway doesn't matter.
 
Question: If I don't pre-order now, when realistically could I get an iPhone by (if I don't want to stand in line)?

Been planning to get this for months now, but my dad is refusing to let me order it yet cuz he can't figure out his DVR and has shows to watch. My current PoS phone legitimately has the internet deactivated on it.

EDIT: I'm on Verizon, btw.
 
BocoDragon said:
Lol. While black is kinda masculine, I don't think white is feminine. Nor would I care anyway. Actually, white electronics remind me of oldschool import Japanese consoles like the white PC engine, white Saturn... as well as the OG iPod of course. It has a connotation of "futuristic" in my mind.. but that could be an outdated notion. Anyway doesn't matter.
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This is honestly why I is/was/am/boobies going with white.
 
Gooster said:
Lmao @ "White iPhone is for girls."

First I've ever heard of that.

Was set on white but was debating black earlier today... May still go white!
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White is nice, Black is to cliche for electronics. That is why I will always go with a different color.
 
Decided to jump on the iOS bandwagon - have a Droid Incredible now, but am looking to get away from both Verizon (need a cheaper family plan) and Android...though begrudgingly.

Probably going Sprint with a black 32GB.
 
Gooster said:
This is honestly why I is/was/am/boobies going with white.
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Nice. Brofist. I knew someone with an Arino avatar would understand.
 
Dang, I'll have to wait till Monday to place my pre-order. Stupid corporate account/family plan. The ATT rep is going out of town. I hope I get first batch like I did with the 3Gs.
 
Well I kind of wanted to wait for a month or so since the early adopters usually get fucked like last year with the proximity sensor issues and stuff but im really leaning towards pre-ordering mine tonight so I hope since its the same design that any kinks have already been worked out. Is anyone else worried about this?
 
SuicideUZI said:
Well I kind of wanted to wait for a month or so since the early adopters usually get fucked like last year with the proximity sensor issues and stuff but im really leaning towards pre-ordering mine tonight so I hope since its the same design that any kinks have already been worked out. Is anyone else worried about this?
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I'm not worried about that. Antennagate was an isolated event. They rarely have to correct serious defects like that.. 4s is basically the original iPhone 4 design anyway, with a few refinements. The defects have been worked out. It should be fine.
 
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