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Kusagari said:
I'm trying to order from the Applestore and it's refusing to let me change my shipping address. Ughh.
KHarvey16 said:
Anyone who ordered from Apple and would like their phone shipped to another address, the order status page allows you to modify the shipping destination(assuming it's still in "processing") to one other than your billing address. Always the chance the change will be ignored but figured I would give it a shot.
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Gooster said:
This has been asked a few times, I think, but has ANYONE here who signed as a new customer with Sprint gotten any email from them whatsoever? Still nothing. Not understanding it.

I did my order at 4 AM last night when their site was finally working so I'm the same boat. I've had such an ordeal with them all morning and into the afternoon, being passed around from various customer service people with no clear understanding of what the sequence of events should be or the next expected communication. Apparently my order went through but wasn't linked to my newly made Sprint account, and neither were linked to the porting request of my current ATT number. I've no idea how a backend like theirs is so disconnected that some of these things can be separated, especially when I filled in all the information for the account and ordered the phone in one fell swoop. It makes zero sense.

I somehow have an order number and an account number now, as separate things, but no sprint.com account that I can actually login into. When I go to track my order it still says it's manually processing.

I know this was a maddening day for all the carriers, and I'm glad I don't work at one, but if this is a sign of things to come, I'm not happy.
 
ridley182 said:
Mmmmm I'm starting to think I should've gone with the white iPhone 4S if only for a year :/

That’s what I did. needed something different for a little while :) and I liked how it looked when I saw a white model 4 in person at an apple store weeks ago.
 
haha dad got me a iphone 4s, just so he could have my 4 and get my holiday gift out of the way.

2 birds 1 stone.

I wonder if they will finally have a gorilla glass back this time around. Kinda sneaky for them not to mention it last year.
 
RaidenZR said:
I did my order at 4 AM last night when their site was finally working so I'm the same boat. I've had such an ordeal with them all morning and into the afternoon, being passed around from various customer service people with no clear understanding of what the sequence of events should be or the next expected communication. Apparently my order went through but wasn't linked to my newly made Sprint account, and neither were linked to the porting request of my current ATT number. I've no idea how a backend like theirs is so disconnected that some of these things can be separated, especially when I filled in all the information for the account and ordered the phone in one fell swoop. It makes zero sense.

I somehow have an order number and an account number now, as separate things, but no sprint.com account that I can actually login into. When I go to track my order it still says it's manually processing.

I know this was a maddening day for all the carriers, and I'm glad I don't work at one, but if this is a sign of things to come, I'm not happy.

I reupped with Sprint for the iP4s, and I never got a confirmation email. I was able to track my order via the confirmation number they supplied. Good luck getting everything straight, I've been w/Sprint for some 10 or so years, they're better than they often get credit for.
 
Anyone know if there is a coverage map for AT&T for areas that can use "4G" HSPA+ speeds? Want to know if I will be able to take advantage of it here in Cincinnati

I have a hard time calling it 4G, i feel like its more of 3.5G, but I have a cousin who always likes to brag about how his Evo on Sprint is 4G and my iPhone isn't, which is pretty annoying, so in his case i will probably refer to it as 4G
 
SuicideUZI said:
Anyone know if there is a coverage map for AT&T for areas that can use "4G" HSPA+ speeds? Want to know if I will be able to take advantage of it here in Cincinnati

I have a hard time calling it 4G, i feel like its more of 3.5G, but I have a cousin who always likes to brag about how his Evo on Sprint is 4G and my iPhone isn't, which is pretty annoying, so in his case i will probably refer to it as 4G


"4G" is just a number and a letter. try not to be too bothered by it. If you like, just jailbreak your device and have '5G' on the top left corner to piss your friend off ;P
 
LyleLanley said:
I just did it with mine and I can't find any scratches. I think you guys are being over protective of your phones.
I agree. I have an original 3G that I got on release day and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. It goes in my pocket with keys, change, and everything else everyday, and the screen is perfect (even looking at an angle in the light.) The back plastic has few scratches though.

Is yours a 3GS or 4? Since mine is an original 3G, it doesn't have the oleophobic coating, and I'd assume that the oleophobic screens aren't quite as durable as non-coated glass. I'm going to get a new 4S, and I hoping to remain caseless on this one too.
 
toohectic said:
I agree. I have an original 3G that I got on release day and I don't have a single scratch on my screen. It goes in my pocket with keys, change, and everything else everyday, and the screen is perfect (even looking at an angle in the light.) The back plastic has few scratches though.

Is yours a 3GS or 4? Since mine is an original 3G, it doesn't have the oleophobic coating, and I'd assume that the oleophobic screens aren't quite as durable as non-coated glass. I'm going to get a new 4S, and I hoping to remain caseless on this one too.

Mine's a 4, but my 2G, 3G and 3GS were all the same when I sold them. None of them had any scratches on their screens. The plastic back on the 3G and 3GS on the other hand...
 
I should probably go for the 32 GB 4S, I've begun converting all my music to Apple Lossless, and I didn't figure the file sizes to be THAT huge. Probably going to sign with AT&T again, sigh. They're by far the cheapest plan I can go by. Just need to decide a color. A co-worker has a white iPhone 4, and I find it very sexy.
 
chickdigger802 said:
haha dad got me a iphone 4s, just so he could have my 4 and get my holiday gift out of the way.

2 birds 1 stone.

I wonder if they will finally have a gorilla glass back this time around. Kinda sneaky for them not to mention it last year.
If it wasn't on the iPhone 4 it won't be on the 4s, the outside materials are the same I think
 
I am gonna be down in Miami from next tuesday to the following weds with no access to my comp.. is there anyway I can upload music to the cloud yet or do I just have to wait til the following week when I come home to put some stuff on it??
 
KHarvey16 said:
Glad it helped! I was bummed since it meant I'd get it Saturday at the earliest since I'd be at work.

Wait, I missed it. Is this related to the signature requirement from Verizon? Can I waive that so that the damn phone is dropped off at my door. Pardon me if this makes no sense - I'm a little buzzed.
 
Malleymal said:
I am gonna be down in Miami from next tuesday to the following weds with no access to my comp.. is there anyway I can upload music to the cloud yet or do I just have to wait til the following week when I come home to put some stuff on it??
Upload music to the cloud? If you're talking iTunes match that does release till the end of October
 
RaidenZR said:
I somehow have an order number and an account number now, as separate things, but no sprint.com account that I can actually login into. When I go to track my order it still says it's manually processing.

I know this was a maddening day for all the carriers, and I'm glad I don't work at one, but if this is a sign of things to come, I'm not happy.

Did they email you your account number? I never got anything like that. I set up my username and password, but like you, i can't log in.

Also, just like you, when i track my order it just says "manually processing"

I did get an email confirming my order and says my order will ship in 3-8 days. Thats good, i guess!
 
Any word on whether the voice to text feature will be available to iPhone 4 users as part of a firmware update? That's really the only feature on the 4S I'm interested in, and it'd be a JOKE if Apple forced people to buy a new phone to support one of the most useful features introduced on phones the last few years when they're a couple of years late in featuring it on their phones.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Yeah I wonder if they're trying to make up for the fact that they know iMessage is going to seriously eat into their text profits.

iDunno...(lol)...I have a lot of friends/family/acquaintances that aren't in the iOS ecosystem. iMessage isn't terribly useful unless Apple decides to port it to RIM/Android/whatever.
 
Loki said:
Any word on whether the voice to text feature will be available to iPhone 4 users as part of a firmware update? That's really the only feature on the 4S I'm interested in, and it'd be a JOKE if Apple forced people to buy a new phone to support one of the most useful features introduced on phones the last few years when they're a couple of years late in featuring it on their phones.
It's been on the phone for years.

Just because Apple didn't make it doesn't mean it didn't exist.
 
Loki said:
Any word on whether the voice to text feature will be available to iPhone 4 users as part of a firmware update? That's really the only feature on the 4S I'm interested in, and it'd be a JOKE if Apple forced people to buy a new phone to support one of the most useful features introduced on phones the last few years when they're a couple of years late in featuring it on their phones.

Well a lot of us are already on the final version of iOS 5 and still don't have Siri. I'm guessing they locked it down to 4S. I contend that it's a complete sham and there's no reason to limit it to the 4S.
 
BigNastyCurve said:
Well a lot of us are already on the final version of iOS 5 and still don't have Siri. I'm guessing they locked it down to 4S. I contend that it's a complete sham and there's no reason to limit it to the 4S.
It is a sham, siri is just a software feature, could just as easily implemented on the 4

But tak away the software of siri and on the 4s you're left with just an a5 and camera upgrade
 
Ken Masters said:
Upload music to the cloud? If you're talking iTunes match that does release till the end of October


Thanks , i really want the new iPhone.. but while traveling on business i can't bring my desktop so i have no way to get my music on my new phone so I might as well not even order the phone now and just hope that I can get my hands on one the 19th when I fly back.. shit.
 
Not sure if it was posted but AT&T sold 200,000 iPhone 4S in the first 12 hours which the biggest launch of any iPhone. To think some thought this would not sell well.
 
3N16MA said:
Not sure if it was posted but AT&T sold 200,000 iPhone 4S in the first 12 hours which the biggest launch of any iPhone. To think some thought this would not sell well.
The 4s could have NO updates and it still would sell like crazy. I don't anyone doubted apple popularity
 
Ken Masters said:
The 4s could have NO updates and it still would sell like crazy. I don't anyone doubted apple popularity

There was some doubts swirling that the 4S would not get many 4 owners to upgrade. That it's not the same as the 3G/3GS situation.
 
chickdigger802 said:
"4G" is just a number and a letter. try not to be too bothered by it. If you like, just jailbreak your device and have '5G' on the top left corner to piss your friend off ;P


heh yeah I know. Im more concerned with real world performance than whatever the carriers want to market it as, but I would like to know if I will be able to take advantage of the increased speed where I live. Tho I guess I can find out myself by just doing a speed test when I get it
 
mastershake said:
Did they email you your account number? I never got anything like that. I set up my username and password, but like you, i can't log in.

Also, just like you, when i track my order it just says "manually processing"

I did get an email confirming my order and says my order will ship in 3-8 days. Thats good, i guess!

I got my account number via 1 of the 8 phone reps I spoke today over the course of the day. It was never emailed. I have no information about when my phone will ship. Where did you get those numbers?
 
BigNastyCurve said:
Well a lot of us are already on the final version of iOS 5 and still don't have Siri. I'm guessing they locked it down to 4S. I contend that it's a complete sham and there's no reason to limit it to the 4S.

Exactly. What a joke that they're basically holding loyal customers hostage over a feature that has been on other phones for YEARS now by featuring it EXCLUSIVELY on a new model coming out when it's easily implementable in software. Sad.
 
Loki said:
Exactly. What a joke that they're basically holding loyal customers hostage over a feature that has been on other phones for YEARS now by featuring it EXCLUSIVELY on a new model coming out when it's easily implementable in software. Sad.
I think it was self-evident that Siri was limited to 4S because it's such a tiny upgrade without it. It is the upgrade hook, like 3G for the 3G.

I've been using and loving Siri on my 4, to the extent that I don't want to lose it. I definitely would not have upgraded if it weren't for 4S exclusivity, but the new camera and enhanced SOC will not go unappreciated.

On that note, one unabashedly positive thing I can say about the 4S is that it will likely have the best camera in the industry for the next year. They added a ton of improvements to what was already terrific.
 
Figured i would check my status before i hit the sack and sure enough it was updated!


"Status: Thanks for pre-ordering. A shiny new iPhone is waiting for you in our warehouse. Excluding extreme circumstances, you will have your device Friday, Oct. 14 or Saturday, Oct. 15. During the pre-order period, we will send you a shipping email and tracking number. Your tracking number may not be updated until Oct. 14. Questions? Visit sprint.com/preorder."


WOOOOOOOOOOO! cant effin wait!

Raiden - Check your status right now. Maybe they updated yours as well. I ordered a 32 gig @ 8am CST. If you ordered before me i am sure you are good to go.
 
ridley182 said:
Bu bu but I thought it was a disappointment and no one wanted it even the fanboys and that Apple was slipping... oh and doomed don't forget doomed.
Where's that blogger who wrote that piece about how 4S was the beginning of the end for Apple after it was unveiled? LOLZ.
 
mastershake said:
Figured i would check my status before i hit the sack and sure enough it was updated!


"Status: Thanks for pre-ordering. A shiny new iPhone is waiting for you in our warehouse. Excluding extreme circumstances, you will have your device Friday, Oct. 14 or Saturday, Oct. 15. During the pre-order period, we will send you a shipping email and tracking number. Your tracking number may not be updated until Oct. 14. Questions? Visit sprint.com/preorder."


WOOOOOOOOOOO! cant effin wait!

Raiden - Check your status right now. Maybe they updated yours as well. I ordered a 32 gig @ 8am CST. If you ordered before me i am sure you are good to go.

Nope. Same status. Glad for you though. Technically I ordered mine at 4 AM CST but who the hell knows considering how fragmented my information was... sigh.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Yeah I'm really looking forward to using the camera, it looks pretty amazing. It's the main reason my gf wants one too.
I think facial recognition alone is going to transform the overall quality of one's Camera Roll.
 
This is more of an iCloud/iOS5 thing but I've been playing around with Photo Stream and it's pretty great. Take a photo on your iPhone, come home and it's already on your Mac, no need to sync. And it's already on your iPad too. I already "got" this concept but when you actually see it work, instantly and seamlessly, it's impressive.
 
Loki said:
Exactly. What a joke that they're basically holding loyal customers hostage over a feature that has been on other phones for YEARS now by featuring it EXCLUSIVELY on a new model coming out when it's easily implementable in software. Sad.

Do you know how features get paid for?

R&D

So Apple has some products, and they sell those products, and some products they make are software and some products they make are hardware, and others are services, but I won't really talk much about that.

So to build these products Apple has to first decide the general shape of a project, and then determine a budget build prototypes and a budget to flesh it out into something that can be sold commercially and other budgets. Apple decided that for reasons unknown to you or I, that the development of Siri was going to be paid for by the iPhone4S R&D budget.

Apple has also done some really smart things to help you out. They created special pools of money for their customers to pay for future features of their hardware - bug fixes, new versions of the software, etc. In fact, iOS 5 is going to be coming out soon, that gets paid by these pools. However there is a problem with the pools of funds - they are limited to a very small dollar amount, just enough to pay for the next major OS version and a couple other things. Perhaps, since Siri was originally an acquisition, the budget was already too large to have been paid by these pools, and could only be afforded by a major R&D project such as the iPhone 4S.

There is also the possibility of it just not working. Perhaps it needs a dual core, or something needed on the A5, or simply more memory than the iPhone 4 has to offer.

And what is so wrong with Apple using a software feature to sell a piece of hardware? Isn't that EXACTLY what they do with computers? While their computers aren't necessarily off the shelf, they aren't terribly exotic hardware wise either. The existence of OS X is to sell this hardware. Apple would not be nearly as successful if they just installed Windows like everyone else does. They certainly have the ability to do, but instead they fund a very expensive OS project to sell the hardware.

Yeah, software can be used to sell hardware. Get used to it.
 
Gary Whitta said:
This is more of an iCloud/iOS5 thing but I've been playing around with Photo Stream and it's pretty great. Take a photo on your iPhone, come home and it's already on your Mac, no need to sync. And it's already on your iPad too. I already "got" this concept but when you actually see it work, instantly and seamlessly, it's impressive.
That sounds great. I am so tired of emailing myself pictures. I hadn't been looking into iCloud as a feature since I wasn't aware it as a PC thing too. Not sure why I thought that, but consider me hyped.
 
So if I take 150 beautiful 8mpx pictures with my iPhone, they will upload to the cloud automatically? Wouldn't that, like, obliterate my data plan?
 
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