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No sugar, No cream!

Also I'm thinking iphone 5 will be more then a year to come out. How long did it take for this 4s to come out after the 4?

Also what is apple care+? You guys think you are actually going to be breaking your phones left and right or something?
 
cjelly said:
So everyone is going white this time, huh?
Haha, yeah, I'm betting a lot of people will for 4S after the 4 situation. Never had a white one previously so I decided to switch it up.

FantasticMrFoxdie said:
How big was the time-gap between the 3GS and 4?
A year. June '09 for the 3GS, June '10 for the 4.

BLagiver said:
Also I'm thinking iphone 5 will be more then a year to come out. How long did it take for this 4s to come out after the 4?
About 14 months.
 
jey_16 said:
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Meant to be unveiled on the 11th but they delayed it because of jobs dying

Uh oh, copyright infringement... :D

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Sean said:
I had always assumed Photo Stream worked over 3G as well but after checking just a few minutes ago on the GM, it says in small print underneath (after you click through): "Photo Stream automatically uploads new photos to iCloud and downloads them to all of your devices when connected to Wi-Fi."

It would be nice if they included a toggle option for those of us on unlimited data plans.
I didn't realize that either. I thought for sure I'd already used it over 3G, but I guess not.
 
Fuck yes, finalized my preorder, got the 64GB white one with AT&T... Moving up from a 3GS. I had the option to stay with my unlimited data plan but I just decided to go with the 4GB + tethering instead because I read that they're going to throttle the shit out of the unlimited users anyways and now I can use it to go online w my touchpad (and iPad whenever they drop the 3rd gen) when I'm out & about.
 
Number45 said:
I'm picking up a Sena case. A colleague at work has one and it's great, really nice soft leather - fits the phone perfectly.

I've been looking at reviews, and a couple of them mention that it's hard to hear the phone ringing or feel it vibrating because the Kutu/Corsa muffles everything too much. The sound issue doesn't seem likely to me (at least on the current version of the case) since it has holes cut out to obviate that problem, but I wondered if your friend had mentioned anything about not being able to feel the phone on vibrate?

Sean said:
Photo Stream does not upload to the cloud while on 3G, it would wait until you connect to WiFi. And under iCloud > Documents and Data you have an option of disabling cellular for that stuff. It's just bookmarks/calendar/contacts/reminders/notes (all tiny stuff) that sync over 3G.

I was concerned about that, because my data allowance is pitiful. That's a huge relief. I'm surrounded by WiFi 90% of the time, but I hope Siri communicating with Apple's servers and the iCloud stuff doesn't eat up my MB when I'm not under a hotspot. Siri is the only thing I can see myself using a lot over 3G, because it's an integral function of the phone. My plan gets auto-bumped into a higher bracket if I go over my limit, so it's not a huge deal, but I'll be irritated if I find the phone uses something like 500MB a month if I'm not actively using the internet.
 
So I called AT&T about my $5 text plan and spoke to someone. She said she saw it on my account and added a note for them to put it back if it gets removed after I activate the new phone. If it happens I will just call back to get it put back on. I got her to agree that I should be grandfathered in.
 
Deutsche Telekom regained controll over their servers. Completed my iPhone order today (4S 16GB white). I hope I still get on the 14th, or 15th.
 
My gf is going to order the 4s soon, does this device really need a screen protector? how resistant is it to scratches?
 
So, I have a question for you guys.

I'd *like* to just order this phone from Apple if I can, but I'm having problems because my line isn't actually due for an upgrade (btw, I am on Verizon). HOWEVER, I'm on a family plan of 4, and the OTHER three lines ARE due for an upgrade. My line's upgrade was actually used on my sister when she got her own iPhone a few months ago, but now her own line is upgradeable, and so are both of my parents' lines, so I'd like to use them on my line. I know this is possible by going to a Verizon store, because the employees allow this without any difficulty. My question then: Does anyone know how to switch the upgrades on different phone lines?
 
Weenerz said:
My order from Apple.com is still processing, is that normal for everyone else?
Mine is too. I ordered mine literally 10 seconds after the site went live. (thanks 1-click checkout)

I think it's processing for everyone still.
 
Ordered mine at around 7:30 AM eastern, from Apple Canada, unlocked. Mine says "Processing items" but the charge has went through and the availability says "Ships by October 14th".
 
WOW. I preordered my 4S at around 6AM friday, 3 hours after preorders started. Everytime I checked the preorder status, which was last an HOUR ago, it said "Expected Ship Date: 10/14/2011". I just checked now and it has changed to "10/21/2011".

FURIOUS
 
JackEtc said:
WOW. I preordered my 4S at around 6AM friday, 3 hours after preorders started. Everytime I checked the preorder status, which was last an HOUR ago, it said "Expected Ship Date: 10/14/2011". I just checked now and it has changed to "10/21/2011".

FURIOUS

Same here. Ordered at around 3:10 AM.

What the fuck?
 
JackEtc said:
WOW. I preordered my 4S at around 6AM friday, 3 hours after preorders started. Everytime I checked the preorder status, which was last an HOUR ago, it said "Expected Ship Date: 10/14/2011". I just checked now and it has changed to "10/21/2011".

FURIOUS

Get used to it. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a massive backlog, and yours just got changed to reflect where you are in the line. This is an Apple product launch. It happens.

Incidentally, I will just be getting a white iPhone 4. That's perfect for me until the iPhone 5, when I'll be able to upgrade 5.
 
Tobor said:
Well, according to the TIMN hands on, it does work. I'm sure there will be kinks, as with any new UI, but it's easy to see where this AI tech will be in a few years, and it's staggering.
My experience with lots of different voice technology is that it simply doesn't work, especially with more exotic names. That is why I said if Apple can get it to work it is definitely a game changer. When it comes out someone add Novak Djokovic as a contact and see if the iPhone calls the correct number when you say the name. I haven't really seen anything that can do that yet unless you record the name and it tries to match it up with what you are saying, that is not what Apple is implying with this. I really don't have high hopes for it, but I am really interested in seeing if it can work.
 
JackEtc said:
WOW. I preordered my 4S at around 6AM friday, 3 hours after preorders started. Everytime I checked the preorder status, which was last an HOUR ago, it said "Expected Ship Date: 10/14/2011". I just checked now and it has changed to "10/21/2011".

FURIOUS

7 days, calm down.
 
Your charge went through, Stump? You mean you checked your credit card online and it's already posted? My MasterCard shows nothing yet online. I don't remember if Apple calls your house to verify the order because it is a big ticket item over a few hundred dollars. I forget if they did that when I bought my iMac. I know Futureshop or Best Buy do that.

I hope my card gets charged soon. I'm always fearful it will get rejected for some reason.
 
Thread starting on the Verizon forum about this. A lot of people who ordered right at 3 AM/Midnight have been pushed back. Absolutely absurd.
 
Eric WK said:
Thread starting on the Verizon forum about this. A lot of people who ordered right at 3 AM/Midnight have been pushed back. Absolutely absurd.
If I remember correctly, the website originally said if you order after 3 PM that it would not be shipped to arrive on the 14th, but other than that you would be fine. We should all be getting it on the 14th, but now the statuses say differently.
 
JackEtc said:
If I remember correctly, the website originally said if you order after 3 PM that it would not be shipped to arrive on the 14th, but other than that you would be fine. We should all be getting it on the 14th, but now the statuses say differently.

Yeah, I think we'll probably be fine. It will be a shitstorm for Verizon otherwise.
 
Chinner said:
so yeah anyone know whats the best deal/mobile provider for UK?

Haven't been looking at them too much but from previous iPhones Tesco had arguably the best deals, not too sure what their deals are like now though.

3 always seem to have good offers too.
 
Eric WK said:
Yeah, I think we'll probably be fine. It will be a shitstorm for Verizon otherwise.
Hopefully it's just a glitch, I really was looking forward to getting it next week.
Number45 said:
I'm picking up a Sena case. A colleague at work has one and it's great, really nice soft leather - fits the phone perfectly.
These look really nice, I like the Kutu a lot, but $45 for a case is pretty expensive.
 
You know, if Google announced Google Maps with Navigation and a native Gmail and Gcal app for the iPhone, I would totally buy an iPhone without hesitation. It's the main thing holding me back right now. I'm so knee-deep in using Google's services (and prefer most of them over Apple's) that it's making the dive into iPhone hard for me. What do you guys think? :( . I want an iPhone pretty badly, but the Nexus Prime/Ice Cream Sandwich makes this decision a lot harder.

So, Google-heavy users that have iPhones:

-Do you find Apple's mail app to be sufficient for Gmail? Can I use all of Gmail's tags and extra features that makes Gmail awesome in the first place?

-Same thing for Calendar? I don't really care for Apple's calendar, but does the Apple iPhone app sync well with Gcal with all the bells and whistles?

-Do you think we'll eventually get either a GOOD, FREE Navigation app from Apple or will Google EVER put it on iPhone (maybe when Navigation is formally out of beta???). By doing a search online, it seems that most of iPhone's turn-by-turn isn't as good, or it costs a lot of money.
 
Pyrokai said:
So, Google-heavy users that have iPhones:

-Do you think we'll eventually get either a GOOD, FREE Navigation app from Apple or will Google EVER put it on iPhone (maybe when Navigation is formally out of beta???). By doing a search online, it seems that most of iPhone's turn-by-turn isn't as good, or it costs a lot of money.
I'd also like to know this, specifically the turn by turn question. That's the only thing that made me really really wanna hold onto my Droid X. I'm horrible with directions, and since I'm a new driver, I'm constantly going new places that I use Navigation for. I need to have a turn by turn app for the iPhone....
 
criesofthepast said:
Your charge went through, Stump? You mean you checked your credit card online and it's already posted? My MasterCard shows nothing yet online. I don't remember if Apple calls your house to verify the order because it is a big ticket item over a few hundred dollars. I forget if they did that when I bought my iMac. I know Futureshop or Best Buy do that.

I hope my card gets charged soon. I'm always fearful it will get rejected for some reason.

It hasn't shown up yet on my charge list or reflected in my balance but they put in the preliminary hold ($5000 credit card, $4250 available credit) and CapitalOne sent me a "WARNING WARNING HOPE U WEREN'T ROBBED BIG ASS $750 CHARGE" email. Not sure if you'd count that as "going through" or not, but I do.
 
I really want to order this phone but I need to see what the Prime is gonna be like...I'll probably still end up with the 4S as after being on android for awhile now has shown me that specs alone doesn't cut it.
 
Pyrokai said:
You know, if Google announced Google Maps with Navigation and a native Gmail and Gcal app for the iPhone, I would totally buy an iPhone without hesitation. It's the main thing holding me back right now. I'm so knee-deep in using Google's services (and prefer most of them over Apple's) that it's making the dive into iPhone hard for me. What do you guys think? :( . I want an iPhone pretty badly, but the Nexus Prime/Ice Cream Sandwich makes this decision a lot harder.

So, Google-heavy users that have iPhones:

-Do you find Apple's mail app to be sufficient for Gmail? Can I use all of Gmail's tags and extra features that makes Gmail awesome in the first place?

I find it sufficient for Gmail but then again I don't use a ton of the extra features. I can move stuff around and search through my Gmail so that's been good enough for me on the go.

-Same thing for Calendar? I don't really care for Apple's calendar, but does the Apple iPhone app sync well with Gcal with all the bells and whistles?

It syncs very well. I've got multiple Google Calendars set up. One for me, one for me and my wife, and one for my daughter. The one for me and my wife and the one for my daughter are shared calendars that I have with my wife so either of us can update it and the other will see it instantly on our phone. So ya, I'd say Google Calendar works great since we can easily share and sync our schedules together.

-Do you think we'll eventually get either a GOOD, FREE Navigation app from Apple or will Google EVER put it on iPhone (maybe when Navigation is formally out of beta???). By doing a search online, it seems that most of iPhone's turn-by-turn isn't as good, or it costs a lot of money.

I think we'll see one from Apple, but I'm curious how it will stack up against Google. I've always hated the idea of Google Maps being removed from the iPhone so it'll have to be damn good for me not to consider Android as an alternative when they do this.
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I'm starting to regret going with the Black iPhone 4S, think imma call and try to get it changed. DAMN YOU GAF!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yea, Apple charged me, still processing my order though. I sure do hope I get it before Friday, just because I like nice things early.
 
Stumpokapow said:
Ordered mine at around 7:30 AM eastern, from Apple Canada, unlocked. Mine says "Processing items" but the charge has went through and the availability says "Ships by October 14th".

Exactly the same for me. I ordered mine at like 5:30 AM eastern, Apple Canada and stuff.

I haven't seen the charge go through yet but I ordered a bumper at the same time and THAT has shipped already (lol).

So we'll see what happens!
 
Does anyone know how many phones the At&t stores usually get in? I didn't preorder, but I might have a spot in line, but I'm curious how many they usually get in.

Do stores only get like 2-5 or like 15 or like 50? Anyone have any clue base on past releases?
 
I'm having some small regret about not getting the white one too. Hope it passes! But then if I got the white I'd be fretting over the black.
 
JackEtc said:
If I remember correctly, the website originally said if you order after 3 PM that it would not be shipped to arrive on the 14th, but other than that you would be fine. We should all be getting it on the 14th, but now the statuses say differently.
I sure hope so, I ordered mine BEFORE 3 AM EST since Verizon opened their preorders a few minutes earlier than everyone else for whatever reason. That and the fact that I got a 32 gig, (the 16 seems to have sold out first) is making me think Verizon is just being overly cautious. I will not be happy if I have to wait for the following week, but not much we can do at this point.

This will be my first iPhone, is there a thread or article with some recommendations for some cool cases?
 
Marty Chinn said:
I find it sufficient for Gmail but then again I don't use a ton of the extra features. I can move stuff around and search through my Gmail so that's been good enough for me on the go.

It syncs very well. I've got multiple Google Calendars set up. One for me, one for me and my wife, and one for my daughter. The one for me and my wife and the one for my daughter are shared calendars that I have with my wife so either of us can update it and the other will see it instantly on our phone. So ya, I'd say Google Calendar works great since we can easily share and sync our schedules together.

I think we'll see one from Apple, but I'm curious how it will stack up against Google. I've always hated the idea of Google Maps being removed from the iPhone so it'll have to be damn good for me not to consider Android as an alternative when they do this.


Hey thanks! A little encouraging, I think, except for the Navigation stuff. That's what originally sold me on the original Droid, so I'm extremely apprehensive to leave it behind, because it really is awesome. If Apple makes their own, I'm sure it'll also be good. I think they'd probably use Google Maps as the base though, wouldn't they? Just like they do now with the Maps app?

Goodness, when I think about it, the Maps app on iPhone for me would be incredibly pointless. Like, I would use it only for directions, so I'd just have the directions brought up on my phone and I'd basically be using it like a sheet of paper with directions written down. Why not just have it do turn by tuuuurnnnnn for me? :(

I think I just talked myself out of an iPhone :(

For today. Tomorrow it'll be iPhone again. Then the next day it'll be Nexus Prime. Fuuuuu-----

Yeah I know, first world problems :p
 
criesofthepast said:
Your charge went through, Stump? You mean you checked your credit card online and it's already posted? My MasterCard shows nothing yet online. I don't remember if Apple calls your house to verify the order because it is a big ticket item over a few hundred dollars. I forget if they did that when I bought my iMac. I know Futureshop or Best Buy do that.

I hope my card gets charged soon. I'm always fearful it will get rejected for some reason.


I think maybe Apple only charges you when they ship the item... not sure though.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I'm having some small regret about not getting the white one too. Hope it passes! But then if I got the white I'd be fretting over the black.

That's what I'm doing right now.
 
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