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Marty Chinn said:
Sure, you might not download an app a day, but -as some folks like to say- it's all about choice.
Like I said, getting the chance to see some of the cool stuff people come up with is part of the joy for me in owning a smartphone. Not too mention getting a chance to play with the cool tech that becomes the 'standard' down the line.I mean, after iOS 5 reveal and ICS, look at some of the stuff people are/will be experimenting with:
Siri
Reading List/whatever the new Google instapaper function is called
Panorama
Beam
I don't know, to me it's kinda cool that if you actually made use of the opportunities these devices give you, you'd have been experimenting with this stuff long before they get pulled in. They'll get fine tuned (mostly) if brought into the core OS, but I think it's still very cool from tech standpoint.
Games are an entirely different discussion, but still another great thing.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think website apps are almost always better, because it translates the content of the website into the navigation "logic" of the device.buhdeh said:
LyleLanley
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Marty Chinn said:
That's kind of strange logic. Do we have enough apps for Windows and Mac OS?
Marty Chinn
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Vyer said:Sure, you might not download an app a day, but -as some folks like to say- it's all about choice.
I mean, after iOS 5 reveal and ICS, look at some of the stuff people are/will be experimenting with:
Siri
Reading List/whatever the new Google instapaper function is called
Panorama
Beam
I don't know, to me it's kinda cool that if you actually made use of the opportunities these devices give you, you'd have been experimenting with this stuff long before they get pulled in. They'll get fine tuned (mostly) if brought into the core OS, but I think it's still very cool from tech standpoint.
Games are an entirely different discussion, but still another great thing.
Sure it's about choice, and I'm all for that, but again, I think there comes a point where it's so saturated that it doesn't mean much anymore. It doesn't help that finding stuff on the app store is a mess unless you know what you're looking for.
Aside from Siri, I have messed with all that stuff. The beauty of the iPhone to me has always been about how things are integrated and one of the faults of the iPhone is you can't define some of that integration.
I just think there's only so much I want to do with the phone or that the phone is good for doing things for that at some point you're really not getting new apps. Maybe there's some key thing I haven't discovered yet what I want to do with my phone, but I just can't even think of what that might be at this point. I've got over 200 apps and games on my phone at this point in time and it just comes to a point where a lot of it is just noise.
What new stuff are you constantly discovering that makes it so that you really haven't peaked in your need to get new apps?
LyleLanley said:
Different need, different form factor, and lacks of limitations. Not the same.
Even if you try to draw comparisons, wouldn't some people say there is enough software on an Mac that any additional software in Windows is negligible at best? I know Liu Kang would say so.
bucknuticus
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Going to buy my iphone tomorrow, cant decide on the 32gb or 64 gb.
Right now I have 4-6gb ,depending on podcasts, free on my 32gb 3gs
Right now I have 4-6gb ,depending on podcasts, free on my 32gb 3gs
Marty Chinn said:
Yeah, I don't think I'll ever agree with that. I mean, we'll still have the choice - just because it's in the store doesn't mean it automatically gets downloaded to your phone. But I'm fine with people continuing to put stuff out there. 'Oversaturation' isn't a concern for me.
EDIT: And it certainly means enough to Apple and Google, for them to add this stuff to the core OS. I think it's an important part of the technology as a whole.
Marty Chinn said:
Well, that's kind of my point, isn't it? We don't know what that might be in the future; no one does. But I'd rather people keep trying new things than adopt the idea that 'well, there's nothing else I can think of I want to do with this device."
And even if it turns out whatever Cool Thing comes out tomorrow isn't really all that usefull to me, that's okay too. As long as I get to try it, experiment with it, and make that call. If it's not something I want to keep, well, I won't. No harm really.
Wow... that's encouraging.Gary Whitta said:
I have AT&T, generally good coverage here, but there is one location I frequent (a mom & pop grocer) where I lose all signal. I swear they have a frickin' Faraday cage in there... None of my phones, Apple and other, including the 4S, gets a signal.
LyleLanley
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Marty Chinn said:
There may be enough software on Mac/Android, but I doubt anyone would say no to more software, especially with the way that these devices are acting as many peoples main gaming devices now.
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reilo said:
I just tried this out and I am not getting Push emails.
Think I'll stick to the Exchange server, unless I am doing something wrong.
Marty Chinn
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Vyer said:
Maybe I read into your original statement wrong. I'm not saying people shouldn't make more apps. Heck the existing ones could be improved or have a better interface. I'm just saying for some the reliance of a varying degree of apps begins to not be important after it reaches key functionality like web browsing, calendar, e-mail. A common point that is said about not caring too much about apps comes when comparing iOS to Android and when I stated that I read into your original statement wrong, I had that in mind. Both stores have a ton of apps and that any discrepancy is just in numbers at this point. It's not a big deal to say one app store has more apps than the other. That is what I was getting at with the importance of apps being overblown.
Okay, so I'm having push email notification troubles and I'm not sure why.
So, I have my Gmail account setup through Exchange for push notifications (I was asking about this on the previous page, thanks to all that helped!), but I'm not getting the notifications in the notifications bar from the Mail app. It's making a NOISE letting me know I got an email, but that's all. No notification. So if I don't here the noise, I won't know I got the email unless I see the app icon's notification. Anyone know what's going on here? Here are two screenshots that show what I think are the settings most relevant. What should I change? (and let me know if the option you need to see isn't in either of these two shots)
So, I have my Gmail account setup through Exchange for push notifications (I was asking about this on the previous page, thanks to all that helped!), but I'm not getting the notifications in the notifications bar from the Mail app. It's making a NOISE letting me know I got an email, but that's all. No notification. So if I don't here the noise, I won't know I got the email unless I see the app icon's notification. Anyone know what's going on here? Here are two screenshots that show what I think are the settings most relevant. What should I change? (and let me know if the option you need to see isn't in either of these two shots)
Particle Physicist
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^^^ I was having that issue as well, what I did was I went back a screen in the Notifications menu.. the one with Sort Apps on the top. I hit Edit on the top right and I dragged Mail from the 'Not in Notification Center' section the the 'In Notification Center' section. Worked after that. I think it may be a glitch.
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My phone will no longer sync with iTunes for some reason. It hangs on step 1 of 6 and eventually gives me an error. I can still manually put apps, music, etc on the device, but I can't actually sync it.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
BocoDragon
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Yeah.Xamdou said:
TheDrowningMan
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My battery life has improved exponentially after a couple of charge cycles. I'm getting about 7-8 hours usage per day, which includes a bit of 3G browsing, a lot of Wifi use and a bit of gaming and music.Bgamer90 said:
It's more in line with Apple's 'real world' estimates (whereas the iPhone 4 easily surpassed them) but it decimates my HTC Desire in the battery department. I think some people must have bad batteries and / or a heck of a lot of stuff being pushed.
Spiderjericho
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I've also had issues charging the device using the standard charger. It seems to prefer my iPad charger more.
It's pissing me off when I wake up in the morning and seeing only half a bar of power.
It's pissing me off when I wake up in the morning and seeing only half a bar of power.
DeadRockstar
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My battery life is great, if a little weird.
I'm at 18% remaining
Usage 9 hours 0 minutes
Standby 18 hours 50 minutes
The weird part is that it's been on 18% for ages. It seems to drain slower and slower as the percentage goes down.
That's with plenty of Siri for music commands and a few text messages. Some games, browsing and emails. The only thing I don't really do is watch videos.
That said, I can't get too used to this phone in particular, because a friend dropped it earlier today and the front screen cracked. Got a genius appointment for Monday. Awesome.
I'm at 18% remaining
Usage 9 hours 0 minutes
Standby 18 hours 50 minutes
The weird part is that it's been on 18% for ages. It seems to drain slower and slower as the percentage goes down.
That's with plenty of Siri for music commands and a few text messages. Some games, browsing and emails. The only thing I don't really do is watch videos.
That said, I can't get too used to this phone in particular, because a friend dropped it earlier today and the front screen cracked. Got a genius appointment for Monday. Awesome.
Keylime
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That should basically do nothing for battery life.Cloudy said:
What do you consider "usage"? If usage is intense gaming, than I wouldn't expect the phone to be able to survive for much more than 4-5 hours. If usage is web browsing and listening to music, I'd expect the phone to survive 6-8 hours. If usage is texting every now and then and taking calls every now and then I'd expect the phone to survive from 10-15 hours.
All depends on what you do.
I used bluetooth in my car everyday (for audio and talking), so I can't disable that. Push is only enabled for my primary accounts. I've disabled location tracking for some apps and the brightness is right where it was on my 4. :\Vyer said:
Interestingly, both my usage and standby times are the same at all times. Should I expect different numbers there? I'm currently at 2hr 11min for both and my battery is at 74%. I messed around with Mage Gauntlet for a good 20 minutes and listened to a podcast through my car using bluetooth but that's about it.
How does one perform a battery reset?bionic77 said:
criesofthepast
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Can anyone dumb down what HDR does exactly? What situations we should be using it in?
Joe Shlabotnik
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dark10x said:
Standby should be the amount of time your phone is on but not in use. It would be quite an amazing coincidence if you are inadvertently using the phone for precisely the same amount of time you are not.
Something's up with the phone's usage measurement.
Keylime
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No better way of explaining it than seeing it for yourself!criesofthepast said:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/hdrvsnonhdr/
criesofthepast said:
Basically, three pictures are taken back to back. One normal, one underexposed, and one overexposed. All three are then merged together to create a great looking picture.
This feature is extremely useful for still pictures. Anything that moves will show a blur / mismatched layers.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/09/hdr-photography-with-iphone-4-and-ios-41.ars
HDR takes multiple distinct photos in rapid succession at different f-stops (different exposures). Apple's solution takes 3. This results in shots of the identical scene with varying highlights. The longest exposure shot, for instance, will appear generally brighter, with objects in shadows more visible yet objects more directly lit perhaps washed out. The shortest exposure shot would be darker; shadows will be darker and lit areas more naturally viewable.criesofthepast said:
The Camera software then combines the three exposures into a single final shot by overlapping them and choosing which exposure to preference in each part of the image, dependent on the lighting levels at each part. The end result is a picture that, for instance, allows you to see both objects sitting in direct light and other objects in shade with better color and clarity than you could see them with any possible individual exposure. Obviously, the light areas are still light and the dark are still dark; if done well, the effect is subtle.
HDR, then, is as much software processing as it is photography. The goal is to make better-viewable shots in light that isn't ideal.
I'm just going by what it says in the general settings screen for usage since last full charge. I've mainly been browsing the web and listening to music with phone calls and texts mixed in. My email is set to manual fetch and I use reminders and browse the app store. Most of this is done via 3G. I also stream radio over the iheattradio appRubxQub said:
criesofthepast
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Great replies on HDR. Thanks all!
Will be trying it out today now that I know more about it.
Will be trying it out today now that I know more about it.
DeadRockstar said:
This my experience. They just need to fix the way the battery percentage is displayed and people wouldn't be bitching as much. The thing lasts me all day and then some with pretty heavy usage, but it sometimes displays a questionable percentage in relation to the time of day.
Stumpokapow
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criesofthepast said:
Turn it on 100% of the time, since you still have access to the regular non-HDR shot, so you can just review your photos and say "the HDR shot looks better to me here" or "the non-HDR shot looks better to me here".
Gary Whitta
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HDR is great and has saved many photos for me. I always leave it on. Just a few small problems:Stumpokapow said:
1. Both versions get saved to your Photo Stream so you'll see a lot of what look like duplicates in your stream and you can't delete photos a la carte.
2. Longer time between photos as the HDR processing takes a second or two.
3. The HDR version sometimes looks kinda flat and washed out and for some reason auto-enhance doesn't work well with HDR pics.
Still worth keeping on though, it will definitely salvage a lot of photos that might otherwise have sucked.
Gary Whitta
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Handy Siri tips.
Stumpokapow
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Gary Whitta said:
That's because Photo Stream is really shitty, ahahah.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Gary Whitta said:
MadraptorMan
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Gary Whitta said:
You never get blurry or strange double vision shots with HDR on? That's the main reason I turned it off on my iPhone 4...most shots had noticeable "doubling" on anything that was moving when I took the picture.
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