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Phoenix
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Mason said:
Nice try, but I'm 'trolling' the hypocrisy that states that typing on one piece of glass (with haptics that feel like you're typing on a vibrator) are somehow better than typing on another piece of glass. But you go on misinterpreting what I posted in the name of defending Blackberry.
Phoenix
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Tobor said:
I agree KFJ, I think something may actually be wrong with your battery or something has gone wacky with your system. I would recommend doing the secure delete of everything and then installing the firmware again - see how it performs with nothing else on it, then sync/install everything else (after waiting a stupidly long time for the backup to happen - please file more bugs on that people).
On my 1st generation iPhone i have push on all the time with no ill effects - I get through the entire day with the phone just fine. The only part that bothers me is that I receive so much work related mail that its buzzing me all the damn time.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Tobor said:
It's still the 1st Gen model. I've seen other reports on the web of people having similar issues. I'm going to try again tomorrow without any of the apps just to see what happens, but yeah, if I continue to have issues, I'm going to have to back everything up and restore to see if I can correct the issue.
Doc Savage
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I had the same problem on my 16gb edge iPhone. The phone used up almost all the battery while I was at work, I checked under usage and it said I was using it for 8 hours then checked again later and it said 10 hours. I believe one of the apps was running in the background messing shit up. I turned it off and on and that seem to stop the battery from completely draining. I restored my phone and re synced all the apps and I haven't had that problem again.
Anecdotal, but my 8GB 3G iPhone has been perfectly fine in terms of battery life. I had push enabled all day, sent lots of texts/used it for calling, used maybe 20% of the battery.
Once I used youtube/the web browser, thats when the battery starts getting eaten, but that's understandable. For normal 3G phone/push email, I could see it lasting 2 full days without charging. I imagine it'd last even longer on 2G only. Even with some web browsing and youtube and network intensive stuff, it gets through to the evening (about 40% remaining) and I plug it in before I go to bed. Now, keep in mind, the only apps I used were the facebook app and the phonesaber app (just for a few seconds to show people) I imagine if I tried playing an intensive game it'd start eating it up too but I haven't really looked too much into that yet.
I haven't really had battery life in the back of my mind when using the phone during the day and with a nightly charge it's fine for my needs.
Once I used youtube/the web browser, thats when the battery starts getting eaten, but that's understandable. For normal 3G phone/push email, I could see it lasting 2 full days without charging. I imagine it'd last even longer on 2G only. Even with some web browsing and youtube and network intensive stuff, it gets through to the evening (about 40% remaining) and I plug it in before I go to bed. Now, keep in mind, the only apps I used were the facebook app and the phonesaber app (just for a few seconds to show people) I imagine if I tried playing an intensive game it'd start eating it up too but I haven't really looked too much into that yet.
I haven't really had battery life in the back of my mind when using the phone during the day and with a nightly charge it's fine for my needs.
Robobandit
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It is starting to look like having exchange configured is the source of my lags and lock-ups... I just did a restore and removed my exchange account and only had mobile me contacts and push e-mail and it is much, much faster.
I'll have to see if it stays that way.. I was getting tired of e-mail notifications from work anyway.
I'll have to see if it stays that way.. I was getting tired of e-mail notifications from work anyway.
Nameless
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My battery life has vastly improved since Friday. I noticed a real change Sunday after a couple of complete rubdowns/complete charge-ups on Saturday, and a full night on the charger. The improvement was even greater today. Phone was fully charged at 11:00am and the battery didn't decrease at all until a little after 3pm. That was with over 3 hours of continuous audio, some texting, a few video clips, and some browsing through out while at work. I kept it fully charged via PC for the rest of the day until about 7pm. Since then Ive done another hour and a half of HD audio, about 30 minutes of online streaming audio, watched the FFXIII revelation video online a few times plus some other videos, played some cube runner, done well over 2 hours of 3G surfing/app store browsing, and an over an hour of talking and texting on 3G and the battery still has a good 35% juice left. Compared to Friday when the thing went from full to zero after only 150 minutes of browsing almost exclusively.
Edit: you can add the time it took me to type this and it's still at 35%
Edit: you can add the time it took me to type this and it's still at 35%
roosters93
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Is the Blackberry not 3G?
Cause it has very good battery life.
Cause it has very good battery life.
White Man said:
Phoenix said:
Agreed.
Also, White Man, if there is any feature at all that you might miss from your current phone (MMS, turn-by-turn, copy-paste), that you feel like you might really miss, you may want to get your hands on one and play with it a bit or make sure that you can live without those features. Nothing worse than signing up for an Apple product and then realizing it meant giving up Typical Feature #439
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
So is FW2.0 jailbroken yet?
I went to go mess w/ the new iPhone and walked out w/ a laptop card instead. No regrets. I heart my OG iPhone.
I went to go mess w/ the new iPhone and walked out w/ a laptop card instead. No regrets. I heart my OG iPhone.
infiniteloop
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Hammer24 said:
Most stores would do a credit check I would think.
Kung Fu Jedi
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roosters93 said:
Depends on the Blackberry. They have a number of different models.
Hammer24 said:
It's tough to buy phones here that aren't subsidized through one of the phone companies, and when you do, they are expensive.
infiniteloop said:
I live in Brighton and work in Quincy. Outside I have perfect 3G coverage. Inside...nothing. I sort of understand it in my office building, I get no XM service either so it seems like a conscious security measure? I've run into the same issue at other financial servicing firms offices
That explains that, but is less hilarious.
I'm really liking my phone, but considering the battery issue I wish a developer would come up with a shortcut like ap that would just turn on/off wireless and 3G from a button on the home screen. That would be brilliant.
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That seems like something Apple could/would do as a firmware update or in-house app really.eznark said:
roosters93
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
My dad has a 7130 which is oldish now.
No camera, GPS and not 3G.
But the Curve or Pearl would be comparable, no?
Juice said:
There aren't any features I'd really miss on my old phone.
Another question: how good are the warranties on these? Are they like Applecare? I was just wondering because of, well, my previous experience with Apple first run hardware and the additional factor of cell phones being more likely to die than any other electronics.
Ollie Pooch
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eznark said:
i'd say if youre in the toilet long enough to play games, you probably need more fibre
ive been waiting for the 2.0 jailbreak tool to emerge, but now i'm having my doubts after hearing some of these battery life woes...
Kung Fu Jedi
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roosters93 said:
Not sure about the Curve, but I'm fairly certain the Pearl is a 3G device.
As for an update on my battery this morning, and I know you're all just waiting to hear
, it seems to be back to rock solid so far. I've received quite a few e-mails on it this morning, and the battery hasn't moved a bit. Only difference today compared to yesterday is that I've removed the apps I had installed. I wonder if one of them was eating battery life. I had been using Net News Wire, the AP News App and Remote. I'll add them back one at a time after today to see if one of them was the culprit.infiniteloop
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White Man said:
You get the usual Apple 1 year warranty. You can then buy the AppleCare extension anytime in the first year to extend it for another year.
I bit the bullet and upgraded... mostly so my girlfriend could get my older iPhone without a new contract. She chipped in for the 16 gig model, up from the 8.
I bought it in a city where there's spotty 3G, and the phone sucked battery real quick. It seems like you shouldn't bother with 3G if you're in that kind of area. Fortunately my home city has a good network. There's no 3G where I am now (on vacation) and after shutting it off it lasts longer than my old phone did. Getting extra functionality that I can turn off to preserve battery seems like a good deal to me.
Oddly, the screen on my new iPhone is a good deal better than the old one. No yellow tint... the "pure white" of it makes the older one look blue though. It's also crisper. I'm not sure if I just got lucky on this, but it flies in the face of what others have been saying about the new screen being not as good.
The plastic isn't as nice as the metal, but the curve of the whole thing and material change provides a better grip than the old iPhone. It is larger than the old one but feels smaller because of the curve.
I haven't noticed any real software strangeness, but I have two general complaints:
1. Why does Safari still crash? It's been a freaking year. Fix this.
2. Somebody is going to need to come up with a better D-Pad than what Bomberman has right now.
Overall, I'm happy with it. Moreso than I thought I'd be.
I bought it in a city where there's spotty 3G, and the phone sucked battery real quick. It seems like you shouldn't bother with 3G if you're in that kind of area. Fortunately my home city has a good network. There's no 3G where I am now (on vacation) and after shutting it off it lasts longer than my old phone did. Getting extra functionality that I can turn off to preserve battery seems like a good deal to me.
Oddly, the screen on my new iPhone is a good deal better than the old one. No yellow tint... the "pure white" of it makes the older one look blue though. It's also crisper. I'm not sure if I just got lucky on this, but it flies in the face of what others have been saying about the new screen being not as good.
The plastic isn't as nice as the metal, but the curve of the whole thing and material change provides a better grip than the old iPhone. It is larger than the old one but feels smaller because of the curve.
I haven't noticed any real software strangeness, but I have two general complaints:
1. Why does Safari still crash? It's been a freaking year. Fix this.
2. Somebody is going to need to come up with a better D-Pad than what Bomberman has right now.
Overall, I'm happy with it. Moreso than I thought I'd be.
Duane Cunningham
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Okay, so for those waiting on the 2.0 unlock:
It's definitely a race between the "iPhone Dev Team" and GeoHot. GeoHot is the kid who was in the news for having originally unlocked it. He was part of the Dev Team until they kicked him out for being a media attention whore.
The last couple of days have been pretty entertaining. Dev Team's blog says it's done, but they want a few days to make sure it's safe. Then Saturday on Geo's blog he made an entry that told the Dev Team to hurry up, basically, and implied that he had his own solution that he'd release himself if they didn't beat him to it.
He put up this page (which makes fun of Zibri, the hacker who broke 1.1.3/1.1.4 with his ziphone tool, too). The counter is in Webdings, but if you copy/paste and change it to a different font, they're real numbers, and the counter expires today in a couple of hours.
Dev Team responded with this, which pokes fun of Geo's counter. The counter goes up, so it will never end. The names around the edge are Dev Tem members, the guy at the top is Steve Wozniak, co-founder of apple, and at the bottom "Judas" is Geohot, made from the same photo on the yiphone site. Geohot appears to also be on the other side of the table, with his face in Wozniak's lap. There's a pile of bloody, broken iPhones beneath Geo's chair, and Woz is offering a gold iPhone to the table while enjoying his blowjob.
Who knows what it all means, just immature nerds slinging mud at each other I guess. But it's kind of funny. Geo's deadline ends in just an hour or two (here somebody has turned the two counters into regular numbers). Hopefully by the end of the day, the unlock will be out.
It's definitely a race between the "iPhone Dev Team" and GeoHot. GeoHot is the kid who was in the news for having originally unlocked it. He was part of the Dev Team until they kicked him out for being a media attention whore.
The last couple of days have been pretty entertaining. Dev Team's blog says it's done, but they want a few days to make sure it's safe. Then Saturday on Geo's blog he made an entry that told the Dev Team to hurry up, basically, and implied that he had his own solution that he'd release himself if they didn't beat him to it.
He put up this page (which makes fun of Zibri, the hacker who broke 1.1.3/1.1.4 with his ziphone tool, too). The counter is in Webdings, but if you copy/paste and change it to a different font, they're real numbers, and the counter expires today in a couple of hours.
Dev Team responded with this, which pokes fun of Geo's counter. The counter goes up, so it will never end. The names around the edge are Dev Tem members, the guy at the top is Steve Wozniak, co-founder of apple, and at the bottom "Judas" is Geohot, made from the same photo on the yiphone site. Geohot appears to also be on the other side of the table, with his face in Wozniak's lap. There's a pile of bloody, broken iPhones beneath Geo's chair, and Woz is offering a gold iPhone to the table while enjoying his blowjob.
Who knows what it all means, just immature nerds slinging mud at each other I guess. But it's kind of funny. Geo's deadline ends in just an hour or two (here somebody has turned the two counters into regular numbers). Hopefully by the end of the day, the unlock will be out.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Mercutio said:
Did you have to stand in a line to get it?
SuperPac
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Kung Fu Jedi said:As for an update on my battery this morning, and I know you're all just waiting to hear
My battery seems to be doing better today as well. I drained it all the way down yesterday and charged it back up last night. Then I removed some applications that I wasn't using. Took it off the charger around midnight, kept Push and 3G on overnight. Since 3G doesn't work while I'm in my office I switched over to Edge before coming into work and have been listening to music this morning for about the last hour or so. The battery still reads as full.
I wonder how much they'd tested this firmware under the conditions of an excitable Apple fan that's downloaded a dozen applications and is using them all. Because that's where the problem really seems to lie -- if I run a bunch of apps and switch between them frequently that's when the battery dies a fast death. If I just do what I'd been using my phone to do since the launch of the 2.5G phone, it's fine.
There's no doubt that the battery is the biggest problem with this new revision. The phone has been in my hands for four days, and two of those days has had absolutely terrible battery life, followed by one great day of battery life... provided I shut off location services, GPS, and turned the screen brightness to about 10%.
dskillzhtown said:
I did. About two and a half hours. I think that there's no reason to have had that long a wait at this store, because here's what they did:
You waited in line, and one by one were greeted with a "personal shopper." This person brought you upstairs, and then tried to upsell you on freaking everything. Literally 5 minutes were spent on MobileMe alone, which not only sucks balls from what I hear but is totally unnecessary for anybody nowadays. Slather .mac in perfume all you want, Apple, I'm not fooled. My particular guy also wanted to tell me all about his band, and ask advice about navigating New York City. Come on, man, there are people waiting outside in the sun!
The actual process of buying the phone and being sent home to activate it (which was painless when I got home at 4 PM) was only 4 minutes. With all the nonsense tacked on, the Apple rep wasted about 10 minutes beyond that. 10 minutes adds up fast with so many people in line...
Apple's iPhone availability website is shit. I went to three stores this morning that were supposed to have each model in stock, and they were all sold out of everything. I showed up at the first store 45 minutes before their online listed opening time, but they opened two hours early for whatever reason and sold in 5 minutes. The other two stores swore they never even had any today, so it looks like the retail availability site is just making shit up. What a waste of a few hours.
Jugendstil
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Wow, I took at walk at lunch today and went by the Apple Store on Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago and there was a line out the door and around the corner. Is the demand really that high? I'm so glad I no longer work at the Apple Store. :lol
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Mercutio said:
Crap! All these lines still going on? I am still planning on getting mine Friday, but I thought the lines would have disappeared by now.
SuperPac
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Well I complained about having to wait 10.5 hours on Friday through Apple's retail feedback form and got a call from the Apple Store (I would assumed from the manager of the store). She apologized for the wait, thanked me for my feedback. And that was it. I was like, "uhhh.... ok?" 10.5 hours because you only had 4 employees ringing people through the 15-minute process and all I get is a "sorry you had to wait." Why even bother calling me? Thanks but no thanks.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Hmm... think I located the problem with my battery getting drained. After having great battery life all morning, I reinstalled Net News Wire and logged in, synced it up, and used it to read a few things. Clicked out of it and went to lunch with my battery still at full. Just glanced at it a few minutes ago, and it's drained down to half. Really odd.
I immediately uninstalled the app and we'll see if it improves things again. Guess I'll go back to the News Gater website.
I immediately uninstalled the app and we'll see if it improves things again. Guess I'll go back to the News Gater website.
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