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Kung Fu Jedi said:
Huh? My volume control works fine regardless of when I start or stop a program.
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I had the volume turned all the way down (in addition to vibrate) but apparently some programs have volume independent of this because when I started the game, I had to again turn the volume down, as the music started playing.
 
thegreyfox said:
I hate Google Reader. Every time i'm in a feed and want to go back to my list of feeds it takes me back to Google More Apps page.
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Are you using the new Google Reader for iPhone URL that was mentioned, or the Reader tab which is integrated into the main Google page? If you use the new one, there is a button marked "Feeds" which takes you back a level in your feed tree. It works perfectly, and I've never seen the behavior you're describing.
 
thegreyfox said:
I hate Google Reader. Every time i'm in a feed and want to go back to my list of feeds it takes me back to Google More Apps page.
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The link I provided doesn't do that. It's a standalone version of Reader.
 
A few more notes:
- The UI is grossly slowed down from the original iPhone/Touch. Completing the same tasks side by side confirms this. I really hope a firmware upgrade is released soon to smooth a lot of the kinks out.
- The GPS is still really wonky for me. I hear from everybody that they're getting super accurate signals, but I'm still getting mine blocks away. Upsetting.
- I'm still on it 24 hours a day. Texting has become fun again. 3G is amazingly fast when it wants to be.
- Saving images from the web onto your HDD is by far my favorite feature. LOOOOOVE that.

Still an amazing phone. Needs fixing.
 
Yeah i hit the Feeds button and sometimes it takes me back to the folders and other times it takes me about the More tab. It can get silly sometimes.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I guess I see vibrate mode as the iPhone won't initiate any sounds, ringing, texting, e-mails, etc. but will still play sounds if you initiate the process, such as listening to music, playing games...

It's easy to turn the volume down when doing those things.
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Nah, its another bug. If you turn on vibrate that is for stuff system wide. http://bugreport.apple.com. The more people post it, the more quickly it will get done.
 
Phoenix said:
Nah, its another bug. If you turn on vibrate that is for stuff system wide. http://bugreport.apple.com. The more people post it, the more quickly it will get done.
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oh shit, thanks, I figured it was just another "feature" like my inability to access 3G in Boston.

EDIT: i just got an error trying to login to apple and report the error. Awesome.
 
eznark said:
oh shit, thanks, I figured it was just another "feature" like my inability to access 3G in Boston.

EDIT: i just got an error trying to login to apple and report the error. Awesome.
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Hilarious. Its amazing how fucked up Apple is right now.
 
Returned my 3G today and am in the process of activating my 1st gen iPhone. I had the exciting 1 bar of 3G while in the Chicago area feature.

Oh well!
 
While I love the 3g as a whole, things that really annoy me:

- I didn't buy the SMS plan because it's a rip off and I don't like text-messaging peopel when I can use e-mail and IM anyway. How can I disable SMS completely on the iPhone? It just automagically gets received and displayed on my iPhone as soon as the phone gets it. I think I might have to call AT&T and disable SMS from there.

- For the love of god, someone tell me there's a way to delete some of these useless default apps that come with the iPhone. Clock? No thanks. Calendar? Useless when I have google calendar.
 
nakedsushi said:
While I love the 3g as a whole, things that really annoy me:

- I didn't buy the SMS plan because it's a rip off and I don't like text-messaging peopel when I can use e-mail and IM anyway. How can I disable SMS completely on the iPhone? It just automagically gets received and displayed on my iPhone as soon as the phone gets it. I think I might have to call AT&T and disable SMS from there.

- For the love of god, someone tell me there's a way to delete some of these useless default apps that come with the iPhone. Clock? No thanks. Calendar? Useless when I have google calendar.
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You can't delete any of the regular apps.
 
There are still lines.

Double-U. Tee. Eff. Couldn't Apple foresee the nightmare of turning their precious stores into cel phone dealers?
 
Anyone know which uses more power, 3G or Wifi? I'm thinking of turning off wifi use if it uses more power, cause even if it's slightly faster than 3G I'd rather it not be eating power whenever it's connected to my home wireless. I'm paying for 3G data anyway, might as well use it.
 
Phoenix said:
Nah, its another bug. If you turn on vibrate that is for stuff system wide. http://bugreport.apple.com. The more people post it, the more quickly it will get done.
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I just reported it to raise awareness. It's ridiculous that I can't silently turn on Monkey Ball when I'm in a public restroom.

eznark said:
oh shit, thanks, I figured it was just another "feature" like my inability to access 3G in Boston.

EDIT: i just got an error trying to login to apple and report the error. Awesome.
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Are you an ADC member (free registration)? You need to be to submit bugs; any ol' apple ID won't do it.

DarkJC said:
Anyone know which uses more power, 3G or Wifi? I'm thinking of turning off wifi use if it uses more power, cause even if it's slightly faster than 3G I'd rather it not be eating power whenever it's connected to my home wireless. I'm paying for 3G data anyway, might as well use it.
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Wifi uses infinitely less power. Good point, though; if the 3G transponder is what's used for your cell signal while you're on wireless, that probably does drain the battery faster than if you would turn it off and use the non-3G voice signal for phone.
 
while i'm desperate for a fix, so I can open games in class without sweating (I got looks last Thursday when I opened the lightsaber). I've noticed if you lower the volume on one app (ex. Open Aurora and press the volume down on the side of the phone once you hear music) it seems to lower the volume in all apps. I'm not 100% sure on this but it seems to have worked.
 
kpop100 said:
which models are you talking about? I've been a Softbank customer since they were still J-phone, and I've never had that bad of an experience with a Japanese cell. Yes Japanese manufacturers are a bit..controlling in what they allow. But ease of use has never been an issue on any of the Sharp or Toshia models I've owned.

That being said I am contemplating an iPhone, because the UI just looks so damn nice.
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Well, every keitai I touch is an exercise in frustration, and I originally blamed it on my poor Japanese, but apparently it's so widespread a problem that Wired has an article about it, featuring a guy Gizmodo called the "David Pogue of Japan".

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/news/2008/06/japan_phones

TOKYO -- Steve Jobs' new iPhone, expected to be unveiled Monday, is headed to Japan by the end of the year. But the device's famed ease of use may actually be a turnoff in Japan, where consumers want features, not simplicity.
Indeed, Japanese handsets have become prime examples of feature creep gone mad. In many cases, phones in Japan are far too complex for users to master.
"There are tons of buttons, and different combinations or lengths of time yield different results,'" says Koh Aoki, an engineer who lives in Tokyo.
Experimenting with different key combinations in search of new features is "good for killing time during a long commute," Aoki says, "but it's definitely not elegant."
Japan has long been famous for its advanced cellphones with sci-fi features like location tracking, mobile credit card payment and live TV. These handsets have been the envy of consumers in the United States, where cell technology has trailed an estimated five years or more. But while many phones would do Captain Kirk proud, most of the features are hard to use or not used at all.
"Some people care about quality, but first and foremost it's about the features," says Nobi Hayashi, a journalist and author of Steve Jobs: The Greatest Creative Director. He estimates that the average person only uses 5 to 10 percent of the functions available on their handsets.
Japan is a culture of spec sheets. When consumers go to electronics stores to buy a cellphone, they frequently line up the specifications side by side to compare them before deciding which one to buy.
Hayashi owns a Panasonic P905i, a fancy cellphone that doubles as a miniature but crisp 3-inch TV. In addition to 3G and GPS, the device has a 5.1-megapixel camera and motion sensors that enable Wii-style games to be played sitting on the train.
"When I show this to visitors from the U.S, they're amazed," Hayashi says. "They think there's no way anybody would want an iPhone in Japan. But that's only because I'm setting it up for them so that they can see the cool features."
In actuality, Hayashi says, the P905i is fatally flawed. The motion sensors are painfully slow, and the novelty of using them is quickly replaced with frustration. And while being able to watch TV anywhere is a spectacular idea, there's no signal in the subways, and even above ground, the sound cuts out every few seconds.
"There's nothing more annoying than choppy TV noises," Hayashi says.
Aoki, who carries two phones, a Sony W44S and an iPhone for accessing the web, has only a vague idea of all the things the Sony cellphone is capable of doing. "Every once in a while, you find an incredible function via the complicated menu," he says.
The manufacturers, who realize the absurdity of piling on features that don't work well, are caught in a vicious cycle of materialistic consumers who always want the newest high-tech handsets, and carriers that have complete control over what products and services are provided to their customers.
"The most important thing for us is to provide our end users with a unique user experience through our products," says Toshi Kawamura, a spokesman for Sony Ericsson Japan.
They're also at the mercy of the all-powerful carriers, like NTT DoCoMo -- the company that created the localized 3G network that makes Japanese handsets virtually obsolete in the rest of the world -- who get to decide what applications and functions are compatible with their networks.
"The flashy little functions are cool, but they're carrier-specific," Hayashi says. "Once you take this out of Japan, it's just a piece of metal." Japanese companies only make 5 percent of global mobile phone sales, and all of those sales are domestic.
Neat-looking gadgets are also a core aspect of one's identity. Daiji Hirata, chief financial officer of News2u Corporation and creator of Japan's first wireless LAN, admits to changing handsets more often than is probably necessary.
"Cellphones are always part of any conversation," he says. "People are always using them and holding them, even in the middle of a meal, so they might not think you're hip if you're carrying an old one."
However, it's unclear whether Japanese consumers will ditch their complicated cellphones for Apple's easy-to-use iPhone, which will be sold in Japan by SoftBank by the end of the year.
A survey conducted by Japan Railways showed that just more than half of those polled were interested in buying the iPhone, but that less than one-fifth really knew what the iPhone was.
"It doesn't have 3G, the camera is only 2 megapixels, and it lacks fun little features like mobile wallet functions and an LED flashlight," Hayashi says. "It may sell modestly as a smart phone or as an upgraded iPod, but it's not quite cutting it as a competitor in our mobile-based culture."
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There, bolded the highlights.
 
I see their point, but I'd still rather push 3 buttons to use a 5mp camera than have the easiest to use but crappiest 2mp job on the market.
 
So let's say I want to sell my current iPhone before getting the 3G iPhone.

How do I go about doing this? Do I just remove my SIM card or what? I want to keep my old number when I upgrade so I would hate to be unable to do that. I'd like to unlock it, too. Does that mean I just run an unlocker program of some kind and get rid of my SIM card? Is it that simple?
 
Fusebox said:
I see their point, but I'd still rather push 3 buttons to use a 5mp camera than have the easiest to use but crappiest 2mp job on the market.
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Matter of preference, I guess. I would rather have all my media as I want it on my one convergence device than be forced to only be allowed to use proprietary media. It's no wonder iPods took off in Japan, since the majority of phones you got there couldn't support MP3s until the manufacturers were forced to have at least one model support it because of the iPod's popularity, but there's still an image perception that if you want an MP3 player, your cell phone won't cut it. Which, considering you could probably use some Japanese phones to microwave your dinner, it's pretty silly.
 
A new competitor emerges

There’s a reason that R.I.M. is averse to the iPhone’s glass pad. “I couldn’t type on it and I still can’t type on it, and a lot of my friends can’t type on it,” says Mike Lazaridis, R.I.M.’s co-chief executive and technological visionary. “It’s hard to type on a piece of glass.”
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Meet the new Blackberry Thunder, type on a mother$*&*('n piece of glass....
 
What's interesting is that I've found it just as fast, if not faster, to type on my iPhone than on my Helio Ocean, which had a full keyboard.
 
I'm actually surprised Blackberry went this route, since the tactile keyboard and the biz user familiarity with it is going to be one of the few things keeping them in the game against the iPhone long-term.
 
Seth C said:
What's interesting is that I've found it just as fast, if not faster, to type on my iPhone than on my Helio Ocean, which had a full keyboard.
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Landscape mode and I can type considerably faster on the iPhone than any keyboard phone I've used. Too bad I can only use it IN THE FUCKING INTERNET BROWSER YOU SICK FUCKS.

But seriously, is there an app or usermade program that can let me text/use notes and stuff in landscape mode? I haven't kept up.
 
Phoenix said:
A new competitor emerges
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Quoted for sweet, sweet justice. They went out of their way to make their chief look like a retard.

Edit: I easily type 40 WPM on my iPhone, and I really don't have a great demand to be writing e-mails on it, since my employer refuses to support it.

I'm actually kind of glad my employer has spurned the iPhone, come to think of it. My phone is a lot less a burden this way.
 
Apple: We Don't Hate GPS, Cut and Paste, or iPhone Office Suites
http://www.appscout.com/2008/07/apple_we_dont_hate_gps_cut_and.php

I got a few minutes of quality time today to ask Apple product head Greg Joswiak some of the most burning questions about missing iPhone applications and features.

Why isn't there cut and paste? Apple has a priority list of features, and they got as far as they could down that list with this model, Joswiak said. In other words, they don't have anything against cut and paste. They just judged other things to be more important.

What's the deal with GPS driving directions? Many developers have said that Apple's SDK license agreement prohibits the development of driving-directions apps, and the New York Times's David Pogue muddied the waters by saying that the iPhone's GPS isn't physically capable of providing driving directions. "According to Apple, the iPhone's G.P.S. antenna is much too small to emulate the turn-by-turn navigation of a G.P.S. unit for a vehicle," Pogue wrote.

That's wrong, Joswiak said; the iPhone's GPS is just like the GPS in other phones, many of which do provide driving directions. Rather, there are some murky "complicated issues" preventing driving directions apps at the moment. "It will evolve. I think our developers will amaze us," he said.

Okay, so where's the iPhone office suite? Dataviz told us yesterday that unspecified technical issues were holding up the development of office suites for the iPhone. Joswiak said he didn't know of any such hold-ups, but then added that there might be issues with applications each having their own file space. "There's no cross-application file structure," he said.
 
Aristotlekh said:
Landscape mode and I can type considerably faster on the iPhone than any keyboard phone I've used. Too bad I can only use it IN THE FUCKING INTERNET BROWSER YOU SICK FUCKS.

But seriously, is there an app or usermade program that can let me text/use notes and stuff in landscape mode? I haven't kept up.
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I know I'm in the minority on this, but I like typing in portrait better. I can fly with just one thumb. That blackberry portait layout looks fucking awful.
 
Darko said:
That's wrong, Joswiak said; the iPhone's GPS is just like the GPS in other phones, many of which do provide driving directions. Rather, there are some murky "complicated issues" preventing driving directions apps at the moment. "It will evolve. I think our developers will amaze us," he said.
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Perhaps that the ant. input is on the face of the device and isn't facing the sky when its in your car? Perhaps its that you have still not negotiated the rights with NAVTEQ to allow driving directions? Perhaps its because you have forbidden us in the TOS for the SDK from building turn by turn driving applications? Maybe its because you've refused to power over the speech synthesis libraries so that we can do turn by turn? It could be because yoru contracts with AT&T have muddied the waters? Perhaps its because the amount of memory you give us on the file system isn't large enough to host maps and you want us to stream them over the EDGE/3G network one of which is too slow and the other which drains too much power? Or maybe its all of these since we asked all these questions at WWDC.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I'm actually surprised Blackberry went this route, since the tactile keyboard and the biz user familiarity with it is going to be one of the few things keeping them in the game against the iPhone long-term.
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I agree. Should just stick with physical keyboards.

Trying to go directly against the iPhone will result in utter failure.
 
Phoenix said:
Perhaps that the ant. input is on the face of the device and isn't facing the sky when its in your car? Perhaps its that you have still not negotiated the rights with NAVTEQ to allow driving directions? Perhaps its because you have forbidden us in the TOS for the SDK from building turn by turn driving applications? Maybe its because you've refused to power over the speech synthesis libraries so that we can do turn by turn? It could be because yoru contracts with AT&T have muddied the waters? Perhaps its because the amount of memory you give us on the file system isn't large enough to host maps and you want us to stream them over the EDGE/3G network one of which is too slow and the other which drains too much power? Or maybe its all of these since we asked all these questions at WWDC.
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That was beautiful.
 
Phoenix said:
A new competitor emerges

BlackBerryThunderSureType.jpg


Meet the new Blackberry Thunder, type on a mother$*&*('n piece of glass....
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I certainly hope Comic Sans isn't going to be the default font type. Blech.

Gary Whitta said:
I'm actually surprised Blackberry went this route, since the tactile keyboard and the biz user familiarity with it is going to be one of the few things keeping them in the game against the iPhone long-term.
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I'm not. They'll likely just keep a foot in both streams; attempt to fend off the iPhone with one model while keeping those who prefer the physical keyboard with the other. It makes sense to me.

As for the executive who made the glass comments, I don't follow RIM, but, to be fair, he may have just pulled a Steve Jobs moment, who famously dogged the Intel chips until it became convenient to make the switch.

Aristotlekh said:
Landscape mode and I can type considerably faster on the iPhone than any keyboard phone I've used. Too bad I can only use it IN THE FUCKING INTERNET BROWSER YOU SICK FUCKS.

But seriously, is there an app or usermade program that can let me text/use notes and stuff in landscape mode? I haven't kept up.
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My brother has this same issue and it's about the only thing holding him back from an iPhone. However, I think you're stuck waiting for Apple to incorporate that option into the phone itself since, basically, you can only run one application at a time. Someone could write the code for incorporating the landscape keyboard so that other developers could incorporate into their program(s), but until Apple incorporates it, I don't think that's possible offhand unless I'm having a brain dead moment. I'd send Apple a feature request, as the more people that suggest it, the higher it moves up their priority list for features to implement or at least consider.
 
Phoenix said:
A new competitor emerges



BlackBerryThunderSureType.jpg


BlackBerryThunderQWERTY.jpg



Meet the new Blackberry Thunder, type on a mother$*&*('n piece of glass....
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Except this has localized haptics which early reports are saying is very helpful for typing on a glass surface. I'll let you get back to trolling anything that isn't made by Apple, though.
 
Mason said:
Except this has localized haptics which early reports are saying is very helpful for typing on a glass surface. I'll let you get back to trolling anything that isn't made by Apple, though.
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What are localized haptics?
 
Terrell said:
Well, every keitai I touch is an exercise in frustration, and I originally blamed it on my poor Japanese, but apparently it's so widespread a problem that Wired has an article about it, featuring a guy Gizmodo called the "David Pogue of Japan".

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/news/2008/06/japan_phones



There, bolded the highlights.
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Actually that article does make some pretty good points.

Hopefully there will be something learned from the iPhone for Japanese cell phone makers, but I have a feeling they will be playing catchup for a while.　
 
My battery life is still shit even after turning off Push. Had more than half my battery left when I got home from work, but checked a short time ago, and I was down to 20% again. Not sure what's going on. I removed the Apps and I'm charging. I'll check and see how it goes tomorrow. Not happy with 2.0 on my iPhone at the moment.

Mason said:
Except this has localized haptics which early reports are saying is very helpful for typing on a glass surface. I'll let you get back to trolling anything that isn't made by Apple, though.
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Don't know Phoenix very well do you?
 
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