I don't have any evidence of this, but it's highly likely there'll be a new last.fm app released that can scrobble music from your library when you use it to play them. I say this because the new SDK allows app developers to access the iPhone's music library to play tracks.hEist said:
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jonnybryce
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As far as I know you can only use the promo codes from the main page, you click redeem on the right.Cathcart said:
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
aesop said:
Say what now?
VanMardigan said:
IIRC, AT&T was toying with the idea of offering an alternate plan for $20 a month with limited data usage. But it looks like they've scrapped that for now.
jonnybryce
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I never thought I'd use copy and paste this much but Apple got it so right. I'm able to copy a blog post and a funny comment into an email, retaining the whole format of each and send it to my brother in seconds. It's so awesome.
Yeah, they said they're pleased with their prices, that's not happening.
aesop said:
Yeah, they said they're pleased with their prices, that's not happening.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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? You can cut text instead of deleting characters one at a time.B!TCH said:
Thanks. That makes sense. I'm pretty sure this didn't work in BeeJive or FB prior to the latest updates hence my complaint. Obviously I tried it otherwise I wouldn't have been able to comment on it. No longer have to worry about the back button jamming and deleting more than you want it to.
jonnybryce
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This is slightly off topic but Verizon is heavily advertising the new enV touch as an iPhone competitor, with commercials emphasizing apps.
"Check out these apps! Show him the cool golf one!" "The enV touch? The one with all the apps?" "Feed your appetite for apps with the enV touch!"
I was curious, thinking maybe Verizon recruited developers to make some cool apps like Sprint tried(and failed) to do with the Instinct.
No. Same old average Java/Brew nonsense with ridiculous prices. eBay app? Looks like crap, and 3.99/month. The golf app from the commercial? $35 for 365 days. Weatherbug from the commercial? 2.99/month.
:lol Ok then.
"Check out these apps! Show him the cool golf one!" "The enV touch? The one with all the apps?" "Feed your appetite for apps with the enV touch!"
I was curious, thinking maybe Verizon recruited developers to make some cool apps like Sprint tried(and failed) to do with the Instinct.
No. Same old average Java/Brew nonsense with ridiculous prices. eBay app? Looks like crap, and 3.99/month. The golf app from the commercial? $35 for 365 days. Weatherbug from the commercial? 2.99/month.
:lol Ok then.
jonnybryce said:
Exactly. People bitch about AT&T overcharging but Verizon has always been just as bad if not worse in their pricing structure. The subscription thing for apps is ridiculous. Plus Verizon locks tons of features out of their phones to make you pay even more to use their crappy (and also crazy expensive) VCast service.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Ravager61 said:
Exactly. Verizon does have a great network, but they have their issues elsewhere. They want to charge you for just about everything, and as much as people would like to see the iPhone on Verizon, it runs so counter to their typical plans it's almost hard to see it working on their network.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I'm still amazed at the maintained existence of viewmymessage.com/2. There are soooo many other ways they could handle that. Shit, make all MMS messages go to my account on the attwireless website or something. But to have to log on to a computer to see what someone sent to my phone is just absurd and I'm amazed that users have not been more vocal about this.
jonnybryce
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Ravager61 said:
They even charge monthly for Visual Voicemail. I'm starting to think that a cheaper iPhone is only going to happen once Sprint or T-Mobile get it (50 years from now or never, whichever comes first).
Verizon is going to do some bullshit to the iPhone, I can't see them being fair and letting Apple do their own thing seperately no matter how much they'd like to have it. The best case scenario is I see Verizon throwing on some kind of iPhone Access $10 or $15/month fee for the hell of it to make up for the lack of app, ringtone and Visual Voicemail subscriptions.
I'm fine with AT&T's service, it's been a few days and I've gone everywhere I normally go. I know they charge $50 for data + unlimited texting and it's gross, but I accept that carriers are not out to be our friends and I'll never find a Sero or Everything Plus on any other carrier than Sprint :/
You know, looking back (even though I thought it at the time), Apple made such a pivotal decision with the iPhone to make it contract with unlimited data plan only.
At that time, it was obvious to me that they wanted to make this the kind of device that people are experiencing now - a device that you actually use a LOT of the features. You know, as opposed to other phones that have the same feature set, but for some reason, be it UI, user experience, or whatever, but they don't get the same use.
By making it online ALL the time (and pretty much requisite for the typical iPhone user), people DID use it. And it paid off big time for Apple, as people find new ways for it to help them. If they offered a range of data plans to suit all walks of people, you'd simply get the entire range of opinions. "Oh, it's not that great." "It's just like any other phone." "It hasn't changed my life.". By fixing it at a premium, unlimited, always connected use, you have the same repeated experience for a lot of people - and that word spreads.
At that time, it was obvious to me that they wanted to make this the kind of device that people are experiencing now - a device that you actually use a LOT of the features. You know, as opposed to other phones that have the same feature set, but for some reason, be it UI, user experience, or whatever, but they don't get the same use.
By making it online ALL the time (and pretty much requisite for the typical iPhone user), people DID use it. And it paid off big time for Apple, as people find new ways for it to help them. If they offered a range of data plans to suit all walks of people, you'd simply get the entire range of opinions. "Oh, it's not that great." "It's just like any other phone." "It hasn't changed my life.". By fixing it at a premium, unlimited, always connected use, you have the same repeated experience for a lot of people - and that word spreads.
jonnybryce
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Tobor said:
But Apple doesn't seem to care about what the carrier charges for service, and this brings us back to when I said I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon throws on a random fee (or simply inflate data and texting fees) to make up for all the Visual Voicemail/ Ringtone/ V-Cast/ App subscription money they'll lose.
mrkgoo said:
Agreed, but simplifying the interface so the features were easy to find and use was just as important.
A feature that requires drilling down through menus to activate is a feature no one will ever use, you know?
jonnybryce said:
Maybe. I'd gladly pay a fee to avoid Verizon's bullshit, so I'm a bad example. :lol
Tobor said:
Oh, definitely. The user interface is first and foremost the key to the iPhones success.
Even simple things like the way they have implemented the new video camera will make it the most used video camera on the web. It's not about the fact that it has it, it's the way Apple has incorporated its application into the phone. I think the iPhone is the most used phone camera on FlickR or some such, and it's not that great a camera.
That said, teh new features of the 3GS camera, namely auto focus BY TOUCH, as well as auto exposure by touch are pretty interesting. It's not like autofocus is something new, but being able to select one instantly is kinda useful. I wonder if you can do some cool effects with the exposure setting too (like fix an exposure).
Pristine_Condition
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mrkgoo said:
Very true. Like pretty much everything else in the iPod/iTunes/iTunes Music Store/iPhone/AppStore/AppleTV universe, the whole experience is what makes the whole experience. You have to have all these elements working together. iPod without the click wheel wouldn't have been quite the same the iPod, iPod without iTunes wouldn't have been the same iPod. iTunes without the iTunes Music Store wouldn't have been all it could be, ect. ect. ect. The only thing that really hasn't totally come into its own yet is the AppleTV...but it's cool if you have it connected with everything else, but it hasn't proved itself as essential as everything else in the universe.
iPhone wouldn't be the iPhone if you had to worry about your data plan keeping up with the way Apple really wants you to use the machine.
SuperPac
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jonnybryce said:
Except AT&T already has the iPhone, so maybe Verizon will throw on a fee or inflate something to make up for it, but they still have to stay somewhat competitive with whatever carrier in the US has the iPhone too.
Verizon could always do something similar to what AT&T is doing and offer carrier-specific apps that involve a monthly fee (see AT&T's GPS app). Who's to say they couldn't offer a V-Cast app that has a subscription fee? The difference would be it wouldn't be included on the phone at purchase and their app would have to compete with everyone else's in the app store. So it wouldn't survive if it was shit.
jonnybryce
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SuperPac said:
We'll see. I don't think Verizon is too concerned with competitive pricing at all and I think they know that people want a Verizon iPhone primarily for the "better" service. I doubt they feel the need to have their service plans be less than AT&T to win people over. Their extremely superior data coverage and finally being able to stop the need for a mass exodus to get an iPhone should be enough to do the trick.
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So I used redsn0w on my iPhone 2G today to unlock and jailbreak the sucker. Since I have a 3GS now, I'm going to sell the 2G (and pay off the damn ticket I got today). A few questions for anybody that has ever sold one on eBay.
1) Should I take the SIM out before selling it, or should I keep it in?
2) How much should I be able to get for it? I'll be including the nice leather Vaja case I have, and the original dock (but not the AC adapter and USB cable) as well. Also, how much should I start the auction out at?
1) Should I take the SIM out before selling it, or should I keep it in?
2) How much should I be able to get for it? I'll be including the nice leather Vaja case I have, and the original dock (but not the AC adapter and USB cable) as well. Also, how much should I start the auction out at?
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