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So what happens when I cancel the new plan I created to activate the iPhone and pay the 175USD? Will it brick the device or what?
 
Chittagong said:
So what happens when I cancel the new plan I created to activate the iPhone and pay the 175USD? Will it brick the device or what?

hmm

apple said:
Minimum new 2-year wireless service plan and activation fee required to activate iPhone features, including iPod; plans are subject to AT&T credit approval.

No ipod functionality without a service plan? :lol
 
SuperPac said:
Well, OK. But then why buy any piece of new technology ever? (Including launch consoles.)
that makes no sense. the whole point is to wait out 6-12 months and then buy it when things have been ironed out.
 
mjfor40 said:
that makes no sense. the whole point is to wait out 6-12 months and then buy it when things have been ironed out.
Pshaw. Haven't you ever been an early adopter? Sure there are risks but that's part of the fun of being the first on the block to own something.
 
Chittagong said:
So what happens when I cancel the new plan I created to activate the iPhone and pay the 175USD? Will it brick the device or what?

That's a mighty big risk you're taking.

mjfor40 said:
that makes no sense. the whole point is to wait out 6-12 months and then buy it when things have been ironed out.

And you do this with every piece of technology you buy?
 
Why would you cancel the contract immediately? You can't take the phone to another network or anything. Might as well play ball with them.
 
Chittagong said:
hmmm hmmm



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Yeah IDK what that is supposed to mean exactly. I already use AT&T so I am not that worried about it, but having to 'activate' the ipod features seems to indicate that it can be disabled aswell.
 
nerbo said:
Wow, excellent deal on the family plans!

$79.99 a month for a family plan with unlimited data, 700 rollover minutes, unlimited night and weekends and unlimited mobile-to-mobile? Sold. I pay $80 a month right now for 700 minutes on a family plan with Verizon with ZERO data and no rollover of minutes.

Soon as my contract with Verizon is up this fall, I am bailing for AT&T and 2 iPhones for my wife and I.

And I can now get a 15% service discount with AT&T through work, w00p! :D
Is this unlimited data for more than one phone?
 
imastalker co. said:
i definitely approve of these plans.


it's got great battery life, so no matter how much you use it, chances are you'll only have to charge it over night while you sleep.

Jesus man, just shut up already. 8 hours is fantastic talk time sure, but it no way can you talk literally "all day" on 8 hours. A 17 year old girl will be charging at least once mid-day.
 
Awesome, works great for me. I already have a 450 min plan and a $19.99 data plan so I just need to swap the data plans and I'm set.
 
I wont stand for this >:(
How can AT&T get away with charging higher rates for thier other PDA/Smartphones!!! THis is outragous, it makes me want to thro my blackjack against a wall, but I love it too much T_T
 
StrikerObi said:
Jesus man, just shut up already. 8 hours is fantastic talk time sure, but it no way can you talk literally "all day" on 8 hours. A 17 year old girl will be charging at least once mid-day.
that's great man, but im not a 17 year old girl, nor do i talk anywhere near as much as them. on my current phone, im ranking in far less 400 minutes a month (under 1000 including nights + weekends).

i also don't understand how you can say 8 hours is "fantastic", then bash it for not being good enough for a 17 year old girl.

you am ftw.
 
Not bad for existing customers. Like everybody else, you don't get a break on the iPhone itself, but you can grandfather in your existing plan and just add $20.

I don't know if I'll get it the first day, but now I can switch plans to AT&T (since T-Mobile absolutely sucks balls) and when I want to get the iPhone I'll be able to just extend my contract to two years (based on whatever I have left).
 
Wow, these plans are awesome. I was expecting AT+T to be $10-20 more expensive than that.

Shogmaster said:
I don't know dude. Alot of smartphone people left GSM for the EVDO rev A love of Sprint and Verizon. I'm not sure those people will be willing to step down to EDGE speeds, no matter the phone....

I have Verizon EVDO through work on my Macbook, and I'm not too freaked out about losing it on the iPhone. Yes it's much faster and the latency is lower, but it's also 3 times as expensive for just data and the coverage is spotty even in San Francisco - if you go to a place like the Westfield Center you'll get cellphone coverage but no EVDO coverage (and there are many more places where "coverage" means 20-40 kbps.) So I'm happy to have that on a laptop when I need it, but I wouldn't have paid $50-$60/mo for it on the iPhone.
 
How do podcasts work on this phone? Just like an iPod? Can I download new podcasts over the Wifi or Cingular network or do I have to sync it with iTunes at home all the time.
 
Pretty sure it works exactly like a regular iPod.

I'm amazed Apple doesn't have a mobile iTunes store running yet. This is the perfect device for it.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I'm amazed Apple doesn't have a mobile iTunes store running yet. This is the perfect device for it.

I was thinking the same thing, and actually predicted that it would be the "12th App" before they revealed the YouTube thing. It would piss all over the Zune and it's gimped use of WiFi.
 
I'm both not from the U.S. and also unfamiliar with phone plans beyond my cheaper-as-dirt $20/month plan up here in Canada...

Can someone clarify what "unlimited mobile-to-mobile" entails to an AT&T customer? Is that free calling within AT&T's network, or what?

Family plan seems pretty decent...
 
SickBoy said:
I'm both not from the U.S. and also unfamiliar with phone plans beyond my cheaper-as-dirt $20/month plan up here in Canada...

Can someone clarify what "unlimited mobile-to-mobile" entails to an AT&T customer? Is that free calling within AT&T's network, or what?

Family plan seems pretty decent...

I'd like to know this as well. It used to always mean within your mobile carrier, but the commercials I see now seem to indicate that for some carriers it's between all mobile carriers.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Pretty sure it works exactly like a regular iPod.
Which is to say I can't download podcasts on-the-go? I guess I'll pass on this and wait for Rev2 then.

What about internet radio? Shouldn't it at least be possible to listen to it over the AT&T Cingular network? Or would you have to point the browser to a website that has an embedded Flash/Javascript player?
 
sonycowboy said:
I'd like to know this as well. It used to always mean within your mobile carrier, but the commercials I see now seem to indicate that for some carriers it's between all mobile carriers.

its free calls to anyone on the ATT network, because they used to have their own seperate set of minutes.
 
Unlimited mobile to mobile in the case of AT&T and Verizon, means that you call anyone else on that network and chat all you want without it counting towards your minutes.
 
sonycowboy said:
I'd like to know this as well. It used to always mean within your mobile carrier, but the commercials I see now seem to indicate that for some carriers it's between all mobile carriers.

Unlimited mobile to mobile is just within your network. T-Mobile and Alltell are probably the companies you're thinking about. They offer myFaves and my circle in which you basically give them the phone numbers you call the most (5 for myFaves and 10 for my circle ) and they don't charge you for them. The numbers can be on any network and even landlines.
 
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Not the best plans, but it's expected from att. In comparison, i'm paying $60 for 1000 anytime minutes, unlimited data and text, no weekend or night minutes, for my blackberry plan. The sidekick plan is $10 more but you get unlimited nights and weekends. Add $10 more and you get the myFaves feature for unlimited calling to any 5 numbers.

Here's my major issue with the iPlans, only 200 text messages? Most mobile instant messaging programs use text data to send and receive, will iPhone do the same? So expect to add another $5 per month for more text if that's the case.
 
thirty said:
Here's my major issue with the iPlans, only 200 text minutes? Most mobile instant messaging programs use text data to send and receive, will iPhone do the same? So expect to add another $5 per month for more text if that's the case.

200 text messages (not minutes). According to the video, it's $9.99 extra for 1500 and $19.99 for unlimited.
 
imastalker co. said:
that's great man, but im not a 17 year old girl, nor do i talk anywhere near as much as them. on my current phone, im ranking in far less 400 minutes a month (under 1000 including nights + weekends).

i also don't understand how you can say 8 hours is "fantastic", then bash it for not being good enough for a 17 year old girl.

you am ftw.

I was just razzing you for being non-stop Apple fanboy #1. I'm a huge mac fan, but your zealotry shows no bounds.

Also, nothing is good enough for a 17 year old girl. I too talk less than 400 minutes and around 20 txts a month, so the low end plan is a no-brainer for me as well.

I want to warn people to beware of taxes. Obviously you'll be hit with tax on the phone itself, but government fees and taxes on a phone plan can hit you for quite a lot every month. One of my friends here in FL has a phone plan that runs her $60/month, and she ends up paying $76 after fees and taxes. That seems like a lot to me, and almost makes me question getting an iPhone. It hurts especially because I am on a family plan with my parents right now, and I would have to ditch that and actually pay for my own phone, so it's not just the difference between a $40 and $60 plan for me. It's the difference between a $0 and $60 plan...
 
SuperPac said:
200 text messages (not minutes). According to the video, it's $9.99 extra for 1500 and $19.99 for unlimited.
edited, thanks. geez, those are pricey. people are gonna be in for a rude awakening if instant messaging uses texts. "bu bu bu ...unlimited data." ahhahahahahhahahaaaaa.
 
StrikerObi said:
I was just razzing you for being non-stop Apple fanboy #1. I'm a huge mac fan, but your zealotry shows no bounds.
if that's the title people wanna give me on this board, fine. but i reeeeally doubt im the biggest Apple Fanboy here.
 
imastalker co. said:
if that's the title people wanna give me on this board, fine. but i reeeeally doubt im the biggest Apple Fanboy here.

You probably aren't in reality, but between that Apple stock thread and this one, you are sticking out a little more than you usually do.
 
StrikerObi said:
I was just razzing you for being non-stop Apple fanboy #1. I'm a huge mac fan, but your zealotry shows no bounds.

Also, nothing is good enough for a 17 year old girl. I too talk less than 400 minutes and around 20 txts a month, so the low end plan is a no-brainer for me as well.

I want to warn people to beware of taxes. Obviously you'll be hit with tax on the phone itself, but government fees and taxes on a phone plan can hit you for quite a lot every month. One of my friends here in FL has a phone plan that runs her $60/month, and she ends up paying $76 after fees and taxes...

Good point. I have a $60 plan with T-Mobile, but after taxes it's closer to $75.
 
imastalker co. said:
im doing nothing more than pointing out how much better the interface is than anything else out there.
yeah, Apple's stock interface blows everyone else on NASDAQ away.
 
imastalker co. said:
im doing nothing more than pointing out how much better the interface is than anything else out there.

Which it certainly does. That's Apple's specialty. Simple and elegant user interfaces that work exactly like you think they would without having to read a manual. Reading the manual only unveils a ridiculous amount of power-user features that make me wet my pants. I could go on about how crazy efficient OS X's interface is once you know the power-user stuff, and even more-so after you install Quicksilver.
 
thirty said:
edited, thanks. geez, those are pricey. people are gonna be in for a rude awakening if instant messaging uses texts. "bu bu bu ...unlimited data." ahhahahahahhahahaaaaa.

What do you mean instant messaging? There is no instant messaging client on the iPhone (yet) except SMS. So...200 included, 1500 for $10 more or unlimited for $20 more.
 
SuperPac said:
What do you mean instant messaging? There is no instant messaging client on the iPhone (yet) except SMS. So...200 included, 1500 for $10 more or unlimited for $20 more.

And there are already some web-clients for IM so you can use them instead of IM-via-SMS.
 
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I'm confused about this. So if I'm an existing Cingular user, can I just add these to my current plan and meet my obligations that way?
 
cvxfreak said:
I'm confused about this. So if I'm an existing Cingular user, can I just add these to my current plan and meet my obligations that way?

Yup, supposedly that's how it's supposed to work. You won't need to change your voice plan, even if it's grandfathered.

I'm still not sure whether or not they'll let you have one even w/o data. Can someone confirm?
 
It'll be interesting to see how Meebo works for web based IM once the iPhone hits. Could solve the IM issues.

http://wwwm.meebo.com/

200 text messages are plenty for me, that's more than six a day on a billing cycle, so no problem there. If you text a lot I guess you would have to jump up to one of the other additional text plans.

And bitching about taxes is kind of silly, because you're going to pay taxes on any cell phone plan that you get. It's not like there is some "iPhone Tax" (yet!) that makes the tax higher.
 
yayaba said:
Yup, supposedly that's how it's supposed to work. You won't need to change your voice plan, even if it's grandfathered.

I'm still not sure whether or not they'll let you have one even w/o data. Can someone confirm?

You must have the data plan during activation. You also have to have a 2 year commitment, so if you only have 6 months left, you have to recommit for a total of 24 months. But if you do have a great grandfathered phone plan, you get to keep it.
 
no Instant Messaging??? i'm sure google talk, aol, and others will be available but to not have these available at launch is unacceptable.
 
thirty said:
no Instant Messaging??? i'm sure google talk, aol, and others will be available but to not have these available at launch is unacceptable.

I'm sure the lack of AIM/etc. is not going to hurt sales of the phone at all. I haven't seen any data, but I'd be surprised if the number of people who use AIM/Googletalk, etc. on their phones is very large compared to the number who Text.
 
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