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[Macam]

Courtesy of Dkos:

Recently it was revealed, much to Bolton's dismay, that Iran is probably 10 years from developing nuclear weapons. Crack US intel/Condi/Dick/W still clung to a prior finding of a trace of highly-refined uranium. Now it turns out that the Iranians were innocent on that, as they had insisted all along. WaPo reports:

Traces of bomb-grade uranium found two years ago in Iran came from contaminated Pakistani equipment and is not evidence of a clandestine nuclear weapons program, a group of U.S. government experts and other international scientists has determined.

"The biggest smoking gun that everyone was waving is now eliminated with these conclusions," said a senior official who discussed the still-confidential findings on the condition of anonymity."

Bush, who violated the nuclear non-proliferation treaty by agreeing to furnish nuclear material to India, has no grounds to do anything to Iran, not even bring them to the UN. The EU-3 had a treaty with Iran, but that is their business, and not that of the UN. Iran is not now nor have they been in violation of any nuclear non-proliferation agreements or anything that would get them a ticket to the UN or any sanctions if someone somehow dragged them there

:: feigns surprise ::

 

[Instigator]

US Busted! :lol

 

[ToxicAdam]

It's ok. Once Iran is "found" to be helping the insurgents in Iraq, we will have a new reason to go after them.

 

[Triumph]

I would expect such a story to come from the highly liberal and untrustworthy Daily Kos website.[/freeper]

Well isn't that interesting.

 

[jett]

As if that mattered to Bush...

 

[demon]

Does..uhh...Iran need freedom by any chance?

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

It's ok. Once Iran is "found" to be helping the insurgents in Iraq, we will have a new reason to go after them.

They don't have to "find" Iranian and Syrians are here in Iraq providing insurgents with bomb making technology are they offically sponsered by their nations? No one can say for sure but, the way that the Syrians and Iranians moniter their countries someone in the loop know and at the very least is turning a blind eye to it.

I've been very near the Syrian border and we have many times taken small arms fire from the other side of the border. As a good Democrat I used to doubt the claims that Rummy and Bush and all that lot used to say about Syria and Iran off principle alone but, since I've been out here I know better.

 

[Propagandhim]

This is just a side-note, but your blog is a pretty neat read, Tommy.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

This is just a side-note, but your blog is a pretty neat read, Tommy.

Hey, thanks I need to update it but most of the things that are of interest to me are all classifed or management related. So that stuff is on the backburner, it's been my rule not to speak ill of mangement or policy but, those have been the majority of my issues for the past month or so. It's gotten better since I'm the only guy in Fallujah but, it still sucks.

 

[xsarien]

It's not like the truth has stopped us before.

 

[ToxicAdam]

They don't have to "find" Iranian and Syrians are here in Iraq providing insurgents with bomb making technology are they offically sponsered by their nations? No one can say for sure but, the way that the Syrians and Iranians moniter their countries someone in the loop know and at the very least is turning a blind eye to it.

I've been very near the Syrian border and we have many times taken small arms fire from the other side of the border. As a good Democrat I used to doubt the claims that Rummy and Bush and all that lot used to say about Syria and Iran off principle alone but, since I've been out here I know better.

When I put "found" in quotation marks .. I was implying that it would be a link to the government directly. It's already pretty established that foriegners are causing problems in Iraq.

 

[AssMan]

Traces of bomb-grade uranium found two years ago in Iran came from contaminated Pakistani equipment and is not evidence of a clandestine nuclear weapons program

AQ KAHN, BITCHES.

 

[whytemyke]

Though it's a good point, and very important to know... the Daily Kos is still a piece of shit, apparently, judging from the writing. Saying Bush ignored the Nonproliferation treaty? Uh... India is already proliferated. You can't proliferate a country's nuclear weapons system once it's already proliferated.

Fuck. If you're going to attack Bush, there's plenty to use. You shouldn't have to make up gray vaguaries in order to get the job done.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

When I put "found" in quotation marks .. I was implying that it would be a link to the government directly. It's already pretty established that foriegners are causing problems in Iraq.

To be honest with you I don't think you have to look all that far to get a connection to some govenment offical. One of the most annoying things here is that the troops will get in a firefight with some cross border insugents and they can't engage them once they get across the border it pisses the troops off like no tomorrow.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

To be honest with you I don't think you have to look all that far to get a connection to some govenment offical. One of the most annoying things here is that the troops will get in a firefight with some cross border insugents and they can't engage them once they get across the border it pisses the troops off like no tomorrow.

so they are not gonna pull a vietnam and invade the guerilla "sanctuaries" in iran and syria?

 

[Guileless]

Yes, Iran, which has vast oil reserves, pursued a secret nuclear program thanks to paragon of integrity A.Q. Khan, has repeatedly defied the IAEA and lied about the progress and nature of their nuclear program is now "absolved" because of one Washington Post story. And because they are obviously absolved by this information, Bush will surely find some other thing to lie about so he can kill the innocent Iranian theocrats and steal their oil. Another great OT thread.

My favorite part of the blog entry is the throwaway at the end: "Global meddling and killing...Pat Robertson feels entitled to recommend the assassination of Hugo Chavez because he might spread "communism." I hate what these bastards have done to this country." Yes, that's a good ending to your thoughts on Iranian nuclear proliferation. Somebody get this guy a GAF account.

 

[The_Sorrow]

:lol Nice link.

Bush, who violated the nuclear non-proliferation treaty by agreeing to furnish nuclear material to India, has no grounds to do anything to Iran, not even bring them to the UN.

Who the hell ever said anything about us attacking Iran? No one has ever stated this so I don't know where the hell this is coming from. Also I believe this is more of a European and Israeli problem but we will be involved in talks obviously. If worst comes to worst we won't be the ones attacking militarily, Israel will.

 

[BigJonsson]

Iranian made mines being delivered to the insurgents were intercepted in Iraq, and have been found in IED's and the like

 

[MIMIC]

Who the hell ever said anything about us attacking Iran? No one has ever stated this so I don't know where the hell this is coming from.

Hmmm...I don't remember us saying anything about attack Iraq either. The whole "diplomacy" spiel and "all options are on the table" rhetoric do all of the talking.

 

[xsarien]

:lol Nice link.



Who the hell ever said anything about us attacking Iran?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-08-13-bush-iran-nuclear_x.htm

But, he said, if diplomacy fails "all options are on the table."

"The use of force is the last option for any president. You know, we've used force in the recent past to secure our country," he [Bush] said.

Implication is just as good.

 

[Macam]

Yes, Iran, which has vast oil reserves, pursued a secret nuclear program thanks to paragon of integrity A.Q. Khan, has repeatedly defied the IAEA and lied about the progress and nature of their nuclear program is now "absolved" because of one Washington Post story. And because they are obviously absolved by this information, Bush will surely find some other thing to lie about so he can kill the innocent Iranian theocrats and steal their oil. Another great OT thread.

My favorite part of the blog entry is the throwaway at the end: "Global meddling and killing...Pat Robertson feels entitled to recommend the assassination of Hugo Chavez because he might spread "communism." I hate what these bastards have done to this country." Yes, that's a good ending to your thoughts on Iranian nuclear proliferation. Somebody get this guy a GAF account.

Just to address a few things: I only linked it via Daily Kos because that's where I stumbled onto it, but I'm not concerned with the blog portions of it -- I just kept that in for context and a little flair really. The WaPo portion is the part of significance, not the blog entry. I merely think that's important in particular, as, sensationalist or not, this administration loves to grab snippets of information and completely bend and distort it, and then parrot it around as if was the truth. It's important to note that at least this aspect isn't holding up thus far.

That said, I don't trust Iran any more than this administration does. Iran's a growing concern, and I agree with you, Guileless, on that first part. However, I don't think we're pursuing a foreign policy that's conducive to diminishing the potential Iranian threat whatsoever, and rather, we're aggravating it. I don't think the European countries (at least, the so called E-3) themselves are doing what they should, as they seem more content on following our own type of policy with North Korea.

I would address The Sorrow, but it's obvious he doesn't read the news or have any concept of the world but rather has a Tourrette-like tendency to hit Submit Reply.