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[Monocle]

I'm just going to post this too, which my GF took this morning.

Just gross. The people who think this way don't even respect themselves enough to avoid blatant lies. They jump right to the hateful propaganda because they've gotta win at all costs.

I bet they like to think of themselves as good people too. Joke of the century.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I got this through the door yesterday

 

[Jamie OD]

I've seen so much support for the "Yes" side in Dublin this week that I have a hard time thinking it won't be passed. There is a worry of a shy No vote making results closer than the polls predict but I'm confident in a Yes victory.

There is also a referendum to lower the age for eligibilty to be Ireland's president from 35 to 21 happening at the same time but no one cares about that compared to the gay marriage vote.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

I've seen so much support for the "Yes" side in Dublin this week that I have a hard time thinking it won't be passed. There is a worry of a shy No vote making results closer than the polls predict but I'm confident in a Yes victory.

There is also a referendum to lower the age for eligibilty to be Ireland's president from 35 to 21 happening at the same time but no one cares about that compared to the gay marriage vote.

You probably shouldn't be president at 21.

 

[WolfForager]

I've seen so much support for the "Yes" side in Dublin this week that I have a hard time thinking it won't be passed. There is a worry of a shy No vote making results closer than the polls predict but I'm confident in a Yes victory.

There is also a referendum to lower the age for eligibilty to be Ireland's president from 35 to 21 happening at the same time but no one cares about that compared to the gay marriage vote.

Dublin has always been fairly liberal though, it's the conservative country folk that could screw this up.

 

[anonymous_abc]

You probably shouldn't be president at 21.

But age should not be the deciding factor one way or the other.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

You probably shouldn't be president at 21.

There's no real argument against the possibility of a president at 21 though, just conjecture.

 

[NinjaFridge]

Would vote yes but I'm on the other side of the border.

 

[Shorty11857]

Seeing all the #hometovote stuff makes me so happy insane to see young people caring about policy so much

 

[Macadinho]

More backward shit from Iona:

Dr John Murray says supporters of marriage referendum have rejected their faith

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...ises-catholics-calling-for-yes-vote-1.2221187

 

[mclem]

We only just decided that we're allowed to bake cakes for gay people, one step at a time.

To be fair, that does put you at least a small step ahead of the US.

 

[WolfForager]

More backward shit from Iona:



http://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...ises-catholics-calling-for-yes-vote-1.2221187

There must be some legal basis on which we can force Iona to disband.

 

[RandyBobandy]

I'm voting yes this afternoon. Everyone I know is too so fingers crossed

 

[Cheesecakebobby]

Go on go on go on go on go on go on GO ON.

 

[Black Republican]

US Republicans will look at this and say "see, people should have the right to vote on gay marriage state by state!"

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

In work and more people seem to be voting no. Everywhere but Dublin is the issue, that's how it could be a no

 

[Tak3n]

all this just goes to show as a world how far we still have left to go.... there should be no need for a referendum, it should just be passed....

same with abortions as well, all these draconian laws need to disappear, it is the 21st century FFS

 

[Tak3n]

In work and more people seem to be voting no. Everywhere but Dublin is the issue, that's how it could be a no

That is what I read, that the strictly conservative areas of Ireland will likely vote no amd make it a close run thing

 

[Joni]

all this just goes to show as a world how far we still have left to go.... there should be no need for a referendum, it should just be passed....

It can't just be passed. Ivysaur12 has explained that very clearly. There is a way to change the constitution and that only can with a referendum. There is no way to 'just pass' the law.

 

[Peru]

Majority vote on minority rights,,

 

[kiguel182]

A referendum should not be used for stuff like this. So dumb.

Gay marriage should be legal and that's final. There's even no point in discussing it. And a referendum normally referes to stuff that has a big impact on the lives of the people in the country and whether two people want to spend their life together does not fit that description.

But, hopefully it passes. Fingers crossed.

 

[Joni]

Majority vote on minority rights,,

If this happened in the US, gay marriage would be a thing. If you had to rely on US politicians, it would never be a thing.

And a referendum normally referes to stuff that has a big impact on the lives of the people in the country and whether two people want to spend their life together does not fit that description.

Changing the constitution does, no?

 

[kiguel182]

If this happened in the US, gay marriage would be a thing. If you had to rely on US politicians, it would never be a thing.


Changing the constitution does, no?

Depends on what you want to change. In this case it really doesn't.

And, I don't know if you are american, but at least where I live changing the constitution isn't such a sacred thing and while it's obviously harder to do than simply pass laws it doesn't require referendums. I don't know how it is in Ireland but since it's also an EU country I'm assuming it's similar, alt ought I might be wrong obviously.

 

[Joni]

Depends on what you want to change. In this case it really doesn't.

And, I don't know if you are american, but at least where I live changing the constitution isn't such a sacred thing and while it's obviously harder to do than simply pass laws it doesn't require referendums. I don't know how it is in Ireland but since it's also an EU country I'm assuming it's similar, alt ought I might be wrong obviously.

It is literally in the well-researched OP. It can't be changed without the referendum.

 

[kharma45]

what

To be fair it's just one person, who's extreme even for the DUP.

He also wanted Halloween banned http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/14/northern-ireland-halloween

 

[kiguel182]

It is literally in the well-researched OP. It can't be changed without the referendum.

I'm sorry then. I missed that.

 

[Juicy Bob]

Wow at the whole '#HomeToVote' thing.

That's actually fucking awesome.

 

[SuperHans]

For anyone who is curious about the no side's argument this is how they see the future

This is fantastic.

 

[The One Who Knocks]

If it didn't pass, it would be one of the biggest upsets in polling in the modern western world, considering the margin of support most polls have predicted. Which, again, unlikely.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...ded-for-no-side-to-carry-referendum-1.2214674

While yes the polls have been quite strongly in favour of Marriage Equality passing, this is by no means a sure fire thing. While I do believe it will ultimately pass, one of the greatest worries regarding this is that young individuals most strongly support Marriage Equality (the university where I'm the Deputy Auditor of the LGBTQ+ Society had a 97% vote in favour of Marriage Equality and registered over 4,000 people to vote) yet there is a very real fear amongst many that this age group will not turn up to the polls, given the historically low turnout in this category. This, combined with apathy brought about by previously strong polls in favour of a Yes vote as individuals feel it's a certainty whether they vote or not, and the passion among No voters ensuring that they'll head to the ballot (particularly when elderly individuals have a much higher turnout) is quite a worry. When combined with a poor performance by the "Yes" side on the most recent Prime Time and Vincent Brown debates which are rather crucial in swaying undecided votes, has me particularly worried. In addition, the fear of individuals saying they're going to vote yes when in reality they will vote no is very real, given the backlash many public supporters of no voters have faced and the persecution complex which has developed (there are, literally, posters encouraging individuals to vote no for freedom of conscience).

While the no side has managed the campaign very poorly (understandably, they have nothing to work on), the result of the Divorce referendum still lingers when every poll was so strongly in favour of divorce passing and, ultimately, it passed only by the slimmest of margins. In saying that, I do strongly believe that it will pass, but I definitely do not thing it will be a roaring victory by any means.

 

[operon]

While yes the polls have been quite strongly in favour of Marriage Equality passing, this is by no means a sure fire thing. While I do believe it will ultimately pass, one of the greatest worries regarding this is that young individuals most strongly support Marriage Equality (the university where I'm the Deputy Auditor of the LGBTQ+ Society had a 97% vote in favour of Marriage Equality and registered over 4,000 people to vote) yet there is a very real fear amongst many that this age group will not turn up to the polls, given the historically low turnout in this category. This, combined with apathy brought about by previously strong polls in favour of a Yes vote as individuals feel it's a certainty whether they vote or not, and the passion among No voters ensuring that they'll head to the ballot (particularly when elderly individuals have a much higher turnout) is quite a worry. When combined with a poor performance by the "Yes" side on the most recent Prime Time and Vincent Brown debates which are rather crucial in swaying undecided votes, has me particularly worried. In addition, the fear of individuals saying they're going to vote yes when in reality they will vote no is very real, given the backlash many public supporters of no voters have faced and the persecution complex which has developed (there are, literally, posters encouraging individuals to vote no for freedom of conscience).

While the no side has managed the campaign very poorly (understandably, they have nothing to work on), the result of the Divorce referendum still lingers when every poll was so strongly in favour of divorce passing and, ultimately, it passed only by the slimmest of margins. In saying that, I do strongly believe that it will pass, but I definitely do not thing it will be a roaring victory by any means.

The divorce referendum is so long ago, Ireland is a different country to back the.

 

[danthefan]

Depends on what you want to change. In this case it really doesn't.

And, I don't know if you are american, but at least where I live changing the constitution isn't such a sacred thing and while it's obviously harder to do than simply pass laws it doesn't require referendums. I don't know how it is in Ireland but since it's also an EU country I'm assuming it's similar, alt ought I might be wrong obviously.

In Ireland if you want to add punctuation to the constitution it requires a referendum. It is the ONLY way to alter it.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Seemed to be tons of support for the Yes movement when I was in Dublin last week. Fingers crossed!

 

[snoopeasystreet]

Voted yes. If the no vote wins, I'm on the first boat outta here.

 

[Kenai]

Gogogogogogogo get it passed!

Srsly though that Simpsons gif and that ginger poster made me chock on breakfast. Brilliant stuff.

 

[cameron]

I'm just going to post this too, which my GF took this morning.

http://i.imgur.com/BZ6FdqB.jpg

I got this through the door yesterday

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd...._=1438914063_001823736ced21a35c949a1b9f4d322e

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd...._=1439181116_44ff65b9f4bb2fdcaf4953282a7bb27e

These are really appalling. They're expected, but it's gross seeing them in print media form. I guess they'll make for "interesting" memorabilia, like anti-suffrage or anti-miscegenation posters.

 

[Liamario]

I'm just going to post this too, which my GF took this morning.

The people who read and agree with this leaflet, are in the single percentile and were already voting no. Anyone else reading this are either laughing at it or are offended by it. Also, you know you're desperate when you have to start calling gay people unnatural. You've already lost.

Catholicism in Ireland is a cultural thing now and every time I see a congregation leaving the local church, the age group is getting older and older.

 

[Liamario]

Voted yes. If the no vote wins, I'm on the first boat outta here.

It won't win. They haven't a single valid argument against it. So argumentless in fact, that they had to raise unrelated issues in order to scaremonger and muddy the issue,

 

[PowerTaxi]

Did my part by voting Yes.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

It won't win. They haven't a single valid argument against it. So argumentless in fact, that they had to raise unrelated issues in order to scaremonger and muddy the issue,

I think yes will win but I'm not sure if it'll be as clear cut as a victory as people seem to predict. Yes is winning by a landslide all over social media, but of course it would, it's filled with young, reasonably well educated people. You don't really hear from the older, church going crowd on there and who know's maybe they're as riled up for voting no as the rest of us are for yes.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

It won't win. They haven't a single valid argument against it. So argumentless in fact, that they had to raise unrelated issues in order to scaremonger and muddy the issue,

Fear and confusion can be a powerful motivator, they know that.

 

[agiantenemycrab]

It is deeply frustrating that Irish citizens that are not resident in the Republic are prevented from taking part in this referendum. There are many people in the North, myself included, and further abroad who would vote in this referendum if they were given the chance to do so.

 

[Chichikov]

More like -

hurr hurr

 

[mrklaw]

I got this through the door yesterday

Are they suggesting that all man-woman married couples should be forced to have children? Or maybe that if you are infertile you are not allowed to get married either?

 

[Aurongel]

These political ads are fucking hilarious.

 

[Kanhir]

I can't vote because, as an emigrant, I've apparently given up the right to decide whether I can get married. Ridiculous.

Results are due tomorrow afternoon. Combine that with Eurovision, and it'll be the most fabulous day in Irish history!

 

[Liamario]

Fear and confusion can be a powerful motivator, they know that.

Only to the really old generation. The younger generation laughs at this nonsense.

 

[RandyBobandy]

Voted! Saw a fair few people

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

There's a small part of me that hopes it doesn't pass purely because I'll make serious cash off paddy power.

And because we have a history of just doing referendums again when we don't get the answer we really want. Eg Nice, Lisbon treaties so we'll get a yes regardless thankfully

 

[Caronte]

I'm just going to post this too, which my GF took this morning.

Won't somebody please think of the children!?

 

[Liamario]

Won't somebody please think of the children!?

There is a distinct lack of children being thought about.