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How to be extremely pedantic in an easy lesson!

Nationality is serious business over here! Wars have been fought over it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nationality is serious business over here! Wars have been fought over it.

That's everywhere.

Even in the animal kingdom.

 

[poppabk]

I agree he pushed things too far, his behaviour was extreme and definitely counter productive. But the dispute didn't arise because he was mentally unstable, it started from a disagreement he had with the school pronoun policy. It escalated because he handled that disagreement badly. You can argue that he lacks judgement, but just calling him a nutter basically erases the underlying dispute that set everything in motion. He should be arrested for breaking the law, absolutely, but I think there is a reasonable discussion to be had about his dismissal from the school in the first place.

I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that it is highly likely his response to the disagreement was in the same vein as his continued response and it was this response rather than the actual dispute that got him suspended.
I highly doubt he took the principal aside and stated his objections clearly and calmly just based on his wackadoo approach afterwards.

 

[ADiTAR]

I think the bigger issue here is the fact that nobody at the police said no, fuck this shit.

This is the problem, if they arrest ppl for this they will arrest you for anything. That's scary.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Let's act as if defending the RIGHT USE of the English language is a legit reason for firing a teacher.

Some of you guys... seriously.

 

[poppabk]

I think the bigger issue here is the fact that nobody at the police said no, fuck this shit.

This is the problem, if they arrest ppl for this they will arrest you for anything. That's scary.

Yeah no shit. My taxes pay for these schools and I should be allowed to walk in and harass little kids whenever I want. Now they want to take that constitutional right away from me? How else am I supposed to blow off steam after a hard day at work?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Let's act as if defending the RIGHT USE of the English language is a legit reason for firing a teacher.

Some of you guys... seriously.

/thread

 

[T-0800]

Snowflake country? hardly, they've had their issues (certainly with us), sure, but I certainly wouldn't call them snowflakes

(I have great grandparents who come from there)

What makes them so great?

 

[Atrus]

Let's act as if defending the RIGHT USE of the English language is a legit reason for firing a teacher.

Some of you guys... seriously.

Your workplace and your boss has the absolute authority to demand you comply with the rules.

Let's say you were my employee and I told you to henceforth refer a "He" as a "Her" because of some Directive. My expectation is that you comply absolutely. I'm willing to listen to you, help you along to the goal, come up with strategies to mitigate your mistakes but under no circumstance are you to intentionally violate those rules. It doesn't matter how you feel about it, it doesn't matter how I feel about it, but you will comply or you will be dismissed.

You are not in charge and should know your place, and yes even language itself can be policed.

I cannot and will never understand what goes through the skulls of people who don't understand the workplace environment. I've heard and seen so many bizarre weirdos act in stupid ways in the office it makes me wonder what reality they live in.

 

[Madonis]

Should this be a police issue? No.

Should teachers act like pricks toward their students? Also no.

 

[Forsete]

The programming sock revolution is about to happen.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

what a f'n snowflake nanny state

 

[poppabk]

Should this be a police issue? No.

Should teachers act like pricks toward their students? Also no.

You don't think some guy off the street hanging around inside a school after being asked to leave is a police issue?

 

[IntentionalPun]

The school initially suspended Mr. Burke and then, in August/September 2022,
sought and obtained an interlocutory injunction restraining Mr. Burke from trespassing on the
school premises.

Mr. Burke refused to abide by this court injunction. As a result, the school
was forced to bring a motion for attachment and committal. Mr. Burke was then committed to
prison on a number of occasions for contempt of court.

The matter came back before the court on numerous occasions but on each and every occasion Mr. Burke refused to purge his
contempt.

Eventually, Mr. Justice O'Moore came to the view that Mr. Burke should be
released from prison as it appeared that he seemed to derive some benefit from the publicity
by remaining in prison. Instead he imposed a fee of €700 for each day Mr. Burke trespassed
on school property.

It is important to be clear about what this aspect of the case is – and is not – about.
This aspect of the case is not about transgenderism. If Mr. Burke had been directed by the
court to comply with the principal's direction, and to refer to a pupil by their new pronoun,
against his religious beliefs and he refused, then it would be about transgenderism.

But the court order does not direct him to say or do anything of the sort that might
conflict with his religious beliefs. The court order simply directs that, as he has been
dismissed from his position for gross misconduct, he must not trespass on school premises.
However Mr. Burke has refused to obey this court order for the last three years.

LOL dude spent 3 years constantly going back to the school he was fired from, which is the only involvement of courts here.

This is the unknown part:

because of his gross misconduct at a school religious service (and other events) and
the manner in which he conducted his objection to transgenderism.

I imagine it's not explained because that's just why he was fired, and the court cases aren't even about that.

 

[Zathalus]

Trespassing at a school three years after he got fired despite multiple warnings, fines, and prior arrests is not the signs of a mentally stable person. I highly doubt he was fired for simply refusing to use different pronouns. That gross misconduct charge likely was what did him in, and it's probably pretty easy to figure out what it was.

 

[Madonis]

You don't think some guy off the street hanging around inside a school after being asked to leave is a police issue?

Specifically, that would be a fair use of the police. I was more stating the general principle.

 

[nkarafo]

I really hate Europe right now.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

If you want to test this out, stand in the middle of Dublin and shout 'You are all English' and see where that gets you.

Fuck, I gotta go to Germany too?

 

[NickFire]

LOL dude spent 3 years constantly going back to the school he was fired from, which is the only involvement of courts here.

This is the unknown part:



I imagine it's not explained because that's just why he was fired, and the court cases aren't even about that.

I don't know all the facts. But I know this very simple truth. None of these discussions would ever be taking place if society didn't coddle a bunch of people demanding that others play make believe with them. This shit is ridiculous and has caused tons of problems and helped no one at all.

 

[Toons]

Remember when Jordan Peterson warned that this happen and the left all said he was making it up?

Counterpoint:

Jordan Peterson is a drugged out quack who shouldn't be cited for anything credible besides a few decent soundbytes

 

[Tams]

What kind of idiot keeps showing up at his place of work after being let go? Disagree with him being fired all you want, but that is not normal behaviour. Nor is telling a judge to wipe the smirk off his face going to net you any favours.

Yeah. For something like this, you have to take the hit of being fired.

You then take the school to an employment tribunal and wring them for as much as you can. It sucks for the pupils, but you have no other recourse.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Keep in mind this dude has been getting paid this entire time too, he was suspended not fired according to those court documents.

 

[Biff]

High Court orders Enoch Burke be imprisoned immediately

The High Court has said that Enoch Burke and his family have engaged in the most deliberate, sustained and concerted attack on the civil courts and the rule of law in this country in recent times and has ordered Mr Burke's immediate imprisonment.

www.rte.ie

So, yeh, typical Twitter bait I;m afraid.

Thank you for posting this and undoing a bit of misinformation. I don't live in Ireland so had just assumed they were following UK lead based on the original video without context.

Completely different scenario and the guy deserves to be jailed. What an idiot.

Sebastian1295 can you edit your OP to include this article link? Not saying you posted this knowing it was misinformation, but as you can tell by this thread, people are still getting baited by it on GAF more than a day later. Few people bother to read anything other than OP.

 

[Sebastian1295]

Thank you for posting this and undoing a bit of misinformation. I don't live in Ireland so had just assumed they were following UK lead based on the original video without context.

Completely different scenario and the guy deserves to be jailed. What an idiot.

Sebastian1295 can you edit your OP to include this article link? Not saying you posted this knowing it was misinformation, but as you can tell by this thread, people are still getting baited by it on GAF more than a day later. Few people bother to read anything other than OP.

I edited the post and added the link to the article down below.