The_Observer
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Good boy.You linked globalresearch.org; a conspiracy theory website rather than peer-reviewed research from a university or journal.
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Is Bill Gates really a comic book villian?
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Nymphae
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Do what you want man, I'm still going to ask you to explain why you call cited facts fake news. Doesn't help your case.
Djau
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Anyone can say whatever they want; doesn't make it factual. If its not factual; its fake news.
Nymphae
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The cited facts are there for others to read and tell a rather interesting story, ignore them if you want.
Djau
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Djau
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What was the result of the case?
Nymphae
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It says the case is ongoing
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In the abstract of the article they base their findings on when it comes to "doctors claim":
"However, a simple association being found with regression analysis does not prove a causal relationship"
Polio has been eradicated from India since 20011, largely by their influence and vaccines. And I'm not sure what you are even trying to say here. India constituted over 60% of all global polio cases as recently as 2009, and now it's gone. Thanks to these vaccines. What is your point on that SOME children MIGHT have had some side effects by the drugs they were using? That they shouldn't have vaccinated them, and some of them would've died?
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Djau
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America's weak as shit with Healthcare investment.
Six years and they can't prove anything? Weak as shit.
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Is Bill Gates Being Sued by India Over Vaccination Deaths?
A fresh meme resurrected and combined some stale claims that we had already investigated at length.
www.snopes.com
Nymphae
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Is Bill Gates Being Sued by India Over Vaccination Deaths?
A fresh meme resurrected and combined some stale claims that we had already investigated at length.
Snopes is garbage, who elected those degenerates as the arbiters of truth?
Makariel
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Well, who elected you as the arbiter of truth?
Nymphae
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I'm not a bugman cited fact checker. I share interesting things.
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"Interesting things" without fact checking them yourself
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The_Observer
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Did you guys ever heard the phrase: "History is written by the winners"? Try to use this phrase in case of mainstream media. Now why is it that you disregard everything that is not spread by the mainstream media and accept everything without question they say? You don't need to agree with the opposite either, just think for yourself and ask questions.
Djau
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You share unbacked up information that isn't shared by anyone educated in the field; not backed up by peer-reviewed journals nor institutions nor any government body. It is the literal embodiment of 'fake news'.
I don't care whats necessarily in the media; what I DO care is what actual accredited scientists attached to credible institutions say and not believing shit made up by normies on the street or people like Dr Andrew Wakefield who was struck off the medical register in the UK for malpractice; yet is believed by a lot of Karens in the US.
Questioning is fine. But use some common sense and at least make sure the ideas/theories being spread matches up to at MINIMUM grade-school level science otherwise your just gonna like Alex Jones.
The_Observer
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I would agree with your logic, if it werent't for the fact that a lot of times it came to light that the official narrative presented by scientists was ordered by those that are in power. Or they were just shills. This doesn't mean that I don't trust anything by the mainstream media or automatically trust other sources, I'm just saying that you need to gather as much information as possible and not just automatically disregard something because it's not by an accredited scientist or something. Of course if something is going against the tide it will never be accredited.
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Nymphae
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Academia is largely trash in my opinion, I don't put much faith in the peer review process tbh
Replication crisis - Wikipedia
Djau
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Academia is largely trash in my opinion, I don't put much faith in the peer review process tbh
Replication crisis - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
You put your faith in uneducated plebs instead?
Irregardless it needs to be proven at some point. Make your paper with your theories; put it to task and prove it through empirical experimentation.
The_Observer
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I don't think it's this simple when you are going against the people that run the world and their narrative.
The Scrivener
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I've said it a few times on this site recently, but science is slowly becoming cult like and religious. The one thing they stand against, is what they are becoming.
Now that does not mean I refuse the idea of science making this world a better place. But it seems we are forsaking much for little.
The WHO have been on record saying it recently that trust in science beyond anything else. Do not question science! Then Ole Tedros takes to Twitter and reveals his soul by posting poetic tweets such as "believe" and "faith".
This kind of science is a cult, just like postmodernism, just like Nazism, just like a lot of shit with an official stamp on it.
Buddha spoke of the middle way, and although I've been a Buddhist for nigh on ages, I still don't get what the fuck that means, like, literally don't get it. Science is just balls in.
Nymphae
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I reserve faith for things that require it and generally don't believe anything anyone tells me at face value.
Djau
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Why? because people are better educated now that reject stupidity like religion, conspiracy, superstition etc?
Nymphae
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I don't trust white coats or funny hats at face value because they've all been proven liars.
The Scrivener
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Religion and science can quite happily make this world a better place together. Some religions have a scientific underpinning. There are many ways to read the Bible. Bill Gates suffers and dies like the rest of us.
Science and religion are about perspective, and for both, no perspective is greater than personal observation and belief.
I'm not a scientist, I can't create vaccines, or build spaceships. I can just about fix a general household appliance through trial and error, observation, and a general education. But what I can do daily is question the nature of existence and life, as no one has supreme authority over that.
Jeez, it's getting a bit deep... er... Gates is a Satanist!!!
LordKasual
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There is no such thing as a saint billionaire
but as far as Bill Gates goes, however cutthroat he was in the past, he's heel turned in the present
He's one of the most helpful living humans on the planet at this point in life.
but as far as Bill Gates goes, however cutthroat he was in the past, he's heel turned in the present
He's one of the most helpful living humans on the planet at this point in life.
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Singular7
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"Peer Reviewed"
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lukilladog
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Nah, name something in science that has been considered so sacred that remains there despite being proven superseded.
Both keep making statements of truth about the world, but only one keeps beating the other. There always will be conflict, besides, there is like only one true religion of peace as far as I know (Jainism).
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The Scrivener
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You're not wrong on your first point, that is the nature of science.
I guess my answer will be to rephrase my point to make it clearer what I meant, that, if religion asks you to believe something that might be false, science is now doing that too. I'm talking about the scientifically righteous people.
Regarding your second point, I guess I disagree. Buddha solved the answer to human happiness 2500 years ago. Bill Gates is a bit late to the party.
Djau
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Science is about perspective through evidence while Religion is the opposite...perspective through delusions.
lukilladog
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That sounds more like pseudoscience, and yeah, it´s a problem.
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You had no problem in believing globalresearch, without checking the credibility of the article you posted.
Nymphae
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I had no problem sharing the link I read that is correct.
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They totally misinterpret the abstract and spread false information...
From the article they linked:
Good thing you generally don't believe anything anyone tells you at face value...
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Nymphae
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I know right?
Singular7
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Compared to Mengele? OK maybe.
But he is a baby Mengele. The guy sits around plotting how to reduce populations, just like "Captain Eugenics" Senior Gates.
Djau
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Oh man. The dude funds research into vaccines to save lives; while the military is free to invest in murder; and that triggers the conspiracy alex jones wackos. He does what your government should be doing; funding life-saving research and instead we get 'inject bleach'.
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Lol what? He just made the correct conclusion that if the worlds' population keeps increasing at this rate we won't have enough resources for everyone. Thus instead of people having 10 children, invest in giving them proper education and birth control, but still let them decide what they want to do. A lot of uneducated people in 3rd world countries don't want 10 children, they just want to keep having sex and the children just happen. I don't see a problem at all in giving people the proper education and tools to not have children IF they don't want to have them.
nikolino840
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12Goblins
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Operation infektion for the dangers of spreading unverified news.
Singular7
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Many loaded / speculative deductions in your post, and the conclusion is "take these drugs/let us inject you" so you have less kids?
Sounds a bit scary Josef
Eugenics is a dangerous game, and when it fails, it fails colossally. Look at the unintended consequences of the Bush-China eugenics program, if you want a non-Nazi recent example. Not to mention the very gray philosophical area you enter when engaging in population control programs like ole' Billy seems intended to accomplish.
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Did you not read where I said, they can still decide for themselves? Where did Bill Gates ever had his organisation inject people to not have kids without their consent? You completely missed what I said, because the only thing he is doing is making people more educated and give them the proper tools for birth control. Nowhere is he forcing people to take birth control...Many loaded / speculative deductions in your post, and the conclusion is "take these drugs/let us inject you" so you have less kids?
Sounds a bit scary Josef
Eugenics is a dangerous game, and when it fails, it fails colossally. Look at the unintended consequences of the Bush-China eugenics program, if you want a non-Nazi recent example. Not to mention the very gray philosophical area you enter when engaging in population control programs like ole' Billy seems intended to accomplish.
He's basically giving them what we've had our entire lives. Education on sex and birth control (like all of us had in school), proper tools to execute this if you want (like we have supermarkets for condoms, pharmacies for the pill, and doctors for IUD)
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LordKasual
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....the hell are you talking about?
MasterCornholio
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This is his superpower his magical touch.
Singular7
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Bill Gates has been talking about population reduction since 2010, minimum...
This is well known! He gave a Ted talk on it.
On top of which, his dad ran planned parenthood and spoke extensively about the need to keep people from breeding.
Creepy family. Bill's business shenanigans are legend (been working in comp. sci since the 90s, before he was recently sainted, it was well understood that he ran underhanded tactics as the default), now he's applying that skill to making sure certain "groups" don't breed.
(look where he's spending the money on vaccines / birth control)
Bill's organization has been accused of putting sterilizers in the vaccines they delivered to Africa via the WHO.
Look it up, there is a lawsuit.
India booted his foundation for shenanigans.
While one might agree that "we" need to stop people from breeding, the implementation of that idea is definitely Mengele-esque.
This really shouldn't be a shock ... 50+ years later these events always come out, the Federal Government was doing sterilization tests in the early 1900s on randoms in California lol, spiking drinks with LSD against unknowing black people, etc.
Unwanted Sterilization and Eugenics Programs in the United States
A shameful part of America’s history.
www.pbs.org
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