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Is buying a Mac about good technology, or is it lifestyle?

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Musashi Wins!

FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
I've always been a PC user. No great fanboyish feelings about it, it was just there, it's what I sort of know, etc. But I've always been intrigued by the consumer mystique of Apple's products. For awhile it seemed to be all about practicality and stability of platform, but I notice over the last several years in ads and different campaigns that they really push the aesthetic angle of Mac ownership and design.

I've got nothing against that. They seem like very nice looking machines. But I always figured that Apple owners were getting it in the ear due to lack of software compatability and playing off some sort of hippie/tech elitism that minor ownership often gives to people.

Anyhow, I keep looking at the pretty ads. I keep thinking maybe I should try one out next time. What are the facts? Is it a sham, trying to make you feel cool with your iPodish computer?
 
I bought mine so I could run Final Cut Pro and edit video. I bought a powerbook, 17 inches of awesomeness. I have used it and FCP so much it feels like an extension of my body.
 
I use a Mac because I prefer the OS it offers. Don't get me wrong, I totally dig the aesthetics as well, but Apple zombies who are all about (and only about) the Apple "iLife" really disgust me.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
It's both, really... as long as you can afford it, but it's really not much different than namebrand PC makers. Dell and Alienware charge more for less, actually.
 
2 words



No Spyware



thank you and i love my mac :) in a year, not one freeze up, not one hardware problem, nothing! thank you mr. jobs you now own my wallet


The other great thing about macs is that if you really really miss windows, you can run windows in a little screen with a program called Virtual PC. Any windows program will run with it. Ya just cant lose.
 

number386

Member
For me it's all about the ease, stabiltiy, and exclusive software. It's great not having to worry about spyware, viruses pop up ad's and other web browsing nuisences. Also their is no drivers to install and download other than (software update but that itself is simple as 2 clicks, and literally takes 2 seconds, provided the item is mac compatible your good to go true plug and play. The unix based OS is extrodinarily stable I havn't had a system crash in over 2 years!!! not to mention other mac software like photoshop is usually more stable on Mac than the PC counterpart. And people swear by the exclusive Mac software like final cut pro especially indie filmmakers as comprable software cost many times more. Oh and Mac elitists suck.


BTW: Mushashi wins: I see you on midnight club 3 right now, waiting for some halo GAF'ers to log on :lol
 

goodcow

Member
TehPirate said:
I used to edit with premiere on a pc and it was ok, but it had some problems (although I heard the recent version is better). However, It's not the same. My mac is so much more stable and I rarely ever get stupid errors.

Premire Pro is written from scratch, and requires WinXP, which is just as stable, if not moreso than OSX as an OS.

Just watch the video, I think you'll be surprised as to how the new Premiere matches and arguably tops Final Cut Pro.
 

XMonkey

lacks enthusiasm.
jadehorizon1 said:
2 words



No Spyware

You won't get spyware on a PC if you use it responsibly. Sure, it takes a little more effect to make a PC spyware proof but that comes with being the overwhelming choice of OS around the world.
 

Burger

Member
I recently got a Mac for work, and I'm glad I did.

OS X is absolutley amazing. I feel like I do things faster, and I get the impression that the OS wants me to be productive. It's more "Would you like this or that" on the Mac as opposed to Windows' "You cannot do that". It has an awesome rendering engine, a built in PDF engine, superior searching (about to get even better).

I keep things tidy on my Mac. Clean desktop, clean folders etc. It's probably because I want the insides to match the outsides. My PC looks like a $5 whore on the outside, and the whole operating system, and the way I treat it reflect that.

I have no problems with software compatibility or availability. OS X does far more than Windows will ever do, so I don't need as many 3rd party applications.

Oh, and I tried out Keynote this afternoon. Funny how Apple can develop a product that on it's first release totally shits on Powerpoint from a great height. Wow, a presentation application with vector support ? It's 2005 and Powerpoint still can't do it. I didn't need to look at the help file, it's just so... simple
 

AntoneM

Member
I would buy a Mac, I seriously would, but I play far to many games on my PC to make the switch, if Apple can deliver the games I'll buy one, until then I'll have to stick with PC's
 

goodcow

Member
Burger said:
Oh, and I tried out Keynote this afternoon. Funny how Apple can develop a product that on it's first release totally shits on Powerpoint from a great height. Wow, a presentation application with vector support ? It's 2005 and Powerpoint still can't do it. I didn't need to look at the help file, it's just so... simple

You realize it's easy to develop something after somebody else has, and use that as an example to what to do, and what not to, right?
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
First and foremost, stability. I know every time somebody says "OSX has been more stable for me" 500 Windows XP guys come in and say "OMG UR APPLE HIPPIE ZOMBIE WINDOWS IS STABLE IF UR NOT A NOOB USER". Feh to that. I used PCs for years and I have to do heavy digital illustration work. I was ready to pull my friggin' hair out. Switched to OSX as soon as Jaguar came out and said "Oh. This is how the fracking computer is supposed TO WORK."

It's both about the OS stability for me and how OSX revs of many critical applications just work better. Painter series from Corel for example, has in the experience of myself - and many other users - been a crash whore under any version of Windows, as well as suffered a hose of bugs such as corrupting files on save.

OSX version is fine.

Aside from that, I do like the overall industrial design of Apple's hardware better. I need to use a laptop all the time as well and the Apple laptops are simply far more clean and uncluttered than most anything in the PC world - until you start to get up to PC laptops that are more expensive than anything but the biggest Powerbook.

I've also had in personal experience less hardware failures with Apple products. Oh, sometimes Apple borks up and when they bork, they bork, crash, and burn hard with quality control. When they get it right though, the hardware reliablity of a lot of their boards and components is scary to me. Compare this with my experience of going through more PC motherboards, CPUs, sound cards, and video cards than I can count on both hands due to plain old poor quality. Some big name brands too. Folks always rant how you can build a 6ghz PC with 20 terrabytes of ram for two hundred bucks. Maybe you can, but the mad competition in the PC market has always seemed to lower quality along with prices.

*begins countdown until PC tech nerd enters thread and invalidates every personal computer experience as an evil HIPPIE LIE paid for with bribes from Apple*
 

kablooey

Member
I've finally been exposed to Macs here at university. I love 'em. I'm used to PC's, mostly because I liked to play games, but since I don't play too much anymore I'm seriously considering the switch to Mac. More stability, more stream-lined interface, cooler exclusive apps, and more fun to play around with (though that's just IMO). :)
 

Burger

Member
goodcow said:
You realize it's easy to develop something after somebody else has, and use that as an example to what to do, and what not to, right?

Oh come on, thats a weak excuse.

To quote an article I recently read (which made me checkout Keynote):

What if I had software that just worked?


I spent many, many weeks this past fall working on a presentation in PowerPoint. Since I work for a company that's all about making stunning imagery, the slides had to look sharp. Unfortunately, while PowerPoint can help you start with nothing and wind up with pretty good results, it also makes it damned hard to start with something and keep it looking good. In fact, importing images and artwork into PowerPoint is one of its weakest points. It has always struck me as odd that a program which is designed for resolution independence wouldn't be able to deal with vector artwork.


When Apple showed off their new presentation tool, Keynote, this morning, I nearly died. Not only did they address nearly every significant functional shortcoming of PowerPoint (alignment, templates, vector graphics, alpha channels, text scaling, and on and on), they did so in a clean, elegant, sensible way. Navigating your slideshow does not preclude looking at the slides close up. Changing parameters of any object is done through a single floating inspector palette, rather than through 800 tiny little toolbar/palettes which are all oriented differently, change size dynamically and appear and disappear depending on what's selected. Window management in PowerPoint (and all of Office, for that matter) is a nightmare; in Keynote, you don't even have to think about it. Slide Masters are not buried and changing layouts is easy, not impossible. It even has an open, XML-based file format so other people can write tools to manipulate the data.
 

goodcow

Member
Kaijima said:
First and foremost, stability. I know every time somebody says "OSX has been more stable for me" 500 Windows XP guys come in and say "OMG UR APPLE HIPPIE ZOMBIE WINDOWS IS STABLE IF UR NOT A NOOB USER". Feh to that. I used PCs for years and I have to do heavy digital illustration work. I was ready to pull my friggin' hair out. Switched to OSX as soon as Jaguar came out and said "Oh. This is how the fracking computer is supposed TO WORK."

It's both about the OS stability for me and how OSX revs of many critical applications just work better. Painter series from Corel for example, has in the experience of myself - and many other users - been a crash whore under any version of Windows, as well as suffered a hose of bugs such as corrupting files on save.

So, just because Corel doesn't know how to program correctly for Windows means WinXP isn't stable?

I was editing a slideshow today at work with well over 100 images on the timeline, of 3-12 megs each, some in PNG format converted over from TIFF, with a barrage of motion keyframes and effects going on. All on a P4 3GHz with only a gig of RAM. Did it at times perform sluggishly? Yes. Did it crash? No. And it was using 2.4GB of RAM with virtual memory.

edit: I also don't get stuck with that goddamn spinning pinwheel like in OSX when the system is doing something.
 
ive always been intrigued by mac's as well, but they were too expensive. That is until i bought a mac mini last month for 600 bucks including the dvd super drive blutooth and more ram. now i use it as a hd dvd player because it has hdmi out as well as doing my work on my television. its the perfect computer for me and its worth every penny
 

Dujour

Banned
I still use my old pc, but I wanted to go all out, so a few months ago I had gathered my some savings and about a 20 inch iMac G5 with extra ram and a 40 gig ipod. At first, I struggled with it so much because, like you, i was an avid pc fangirl I guess. But after a few monhs, it's easy to get into again. I just need to get around to getting a mouse with a scroll button and back/forward buttons. I can't stand that all of the shortcuts with a mac require the apple key. Oh, and the expose kicks ass. Keeping the giant screen dust free it tough though. And when I feel like using my old pc, (I use it as a slave to run torrents and mirc) I connect to it through Remote Desktop Connection. I just wish the playstation emulator ran better on it.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
max_cool said:
I would buy a Mac, I seriously would, but I play far to many games on my PC to make the switch, if Apple can deliver the games I'll buy one, until then I'll have to stick with PC's
I have a dual-boot WinXP/Linux on my PC, and while I have a bunch of PC games, I spend far more time with my PS2 anyway. :/

..and yes, Expose is much better than the taskbar.
 

Jonnyram

Member
Getting my wife a power book for her birthday because her Vaio's past its due date. Bonuses on the side include her being able to use the Internet without any extra education, and she won't infect my PC with spyware any more.

I can't decide which size to get her though - if I got her 17", I'd be jealous all the time :lol
 

Norn

Member
I run Windows XP and never have any problems. I've tried out linux distributions so I have a feel for how the new Mac 0S run (they're both based on unix). I could switch to linux but I don't really have the drive to. I know how XP's in and outs. It never crashes on me. I have no spyware or virus. Of course, just like I don't want to learn how to operate a linux enviroment, I could see why someone wouldn't want to learn the windows world. Since you don't seem to know too much about it, it probably would not be a bad to choose a mac in the OS category.

But on the note of hardware, I have a state of the art PC with a great looking case and 20 inch flatscreen that cost me about $2000 total. But that total was spread over about 3 years of upgrades, so the price isn't too much to worry about.

I don't think the comment about Dell computers is justified though. At least in my experiences. I recently bought a Dell laptop, widescreen, with all the power I ever need and great battery life for less than any Mac laptop I've ever seen.
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
XMonkey said:
You won't get spyware on a PC if you use it responsibly. Sure, it takes a little more effect to make a PC spyware proof but that comes with being the overwhelming choice of OS around the world.

Yeah, but that's the simple brilliance of it.
I've fixed my parent's computer, god, who knows how many times now. Spyware, viruses, lord knows what. Let them mess around on my iBook for a while, and it comes back with no damage done.

I've had some issues with my iBook, no doubt (HDD went bad) but I was able to replace it on my own (well a friend did it, but still) and that's still a lot less hassle than my vaio was.
 
Sorry, you PC guys are never going to convince me to switch back. I built my own computer. It was great. Problem is, every little program needs tinkering. Try getting a game to run right on a PC without going into it's settings or updating your drivers or some stupid shit. Granted, there are not a lot of games for OS X, but I could care less. I didn't play any games on my PC very often to begin with. I've played World of WarCraft on this Powerbook and it runs perfectly.

OS X does everything windows does with more efficiency and elegance.

Expose kicks Alt+Tab right in the balls. Try using a PC once you've been on a Mac with Panther installed. It's like driving with your emergency break on.
 
When I was a kid I remembered sitting in grade school drawing in my trapper keeper
pretending my trapper keeper was some kind of 007 spy computer that could do lots of things... I drew different things on the pages, buttons, radar, a handprint scanner.
I just really loved technology as a kid but my parents could never afford anything close to a pc. it was 1986.

I never used a computer so I only used my imagination to do that.
I a few years later at a diffent school they had a Apple Lab Class so this was the first PC I touched - later my mother got me a Radio Shack Tandy TRS 80

Huge difference.

In High School never used the computer other than for the required typing class.

In college I would stay online using the UNIX lab

I lived with a friend for a year Bronx NY he had an old Mac running OS 7
I designed a website using it for him.

Few years later I meet someone at a Medical Conference I was a Speaker giving a presentation (this person was and still is a VP at Burger King)
He heard I loved computers and did not own one and asked me what I would like.
I told him an iMac and he really got delivered a few months later, I loved it and OS 9

Years later I did an art project for a major company and as part of the payment
I asked for a 17" Powerbook my little dream machine.

I love my Powerbook this 17 inch of sweetness I even took it with me while I was travelling homeless last year from Houston, to Dallas and my Adventures in SOUTH BEACH Miami.
I did not fear it would be stolen because I never went anywhere without my Backpack that carries it. (even during the Hurricanes)

I'm talking really homeless here... it was funny that I would go and sit at a Starbucks on South Beach and pull out my powerbook and post on GAF (if anyone remembers the Miami post from naz last summer)

I could not sell my PB it is just really important to me I love macs like people have love for exotic cars. I like Macs best.

I don't claim it to be the best thing out there but for me nothing else can replace it, Apple and me just fit.

Now that I am back home in Connecticut and doing okay
I do want to buy a cheap PC since I never owned anything with windows beyond Virtual PC

My dream machine now is a G5 with Dual 30" screens (that's 2 screens folks)
:D

Thus my attachment to Macs.

Windows PCs just never caught my imagination like Macs.
Sony VIAO was my second choice if it ever came to that.
 

Macam

Banned
Cerebral Palsy said:
I love my Powerbook. If someone wants to buy me a G5 I'll never touch a pc again.

Amen.

I don't have a problem with Windows per se, but even with responsible use of one and all the extensive options and price advantage that come with it, I'd still rather use a Mac running Panther any day of the week. I can do what I need to with minimal headaches and that's something I can't say for Windows where I'm constantly having to fix something either for myself or the rest of the world. The registry needs to die.
 
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Wow, another PC vs. Mac thread. How pathetic our lives must be to have even a morsel of care to discuss this beaten-to-death-topic even more. Get over it. PC users are mulish. Mac users are mulish. It’s a pathetic war that cannot be won, so why bother? And you people didn’t create this software or hardware, so why are you defending it? Declarations like “I can never go back to…” prove how simple (and single) minded most people are. Get over yourselves.
 
God's Hand said:
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Wow, another PC vs. Mac thread. How pathetic our lives must be to have even a morsel of care to discuss this beaten-to-death-topic even more. Get over it. PC users are mulish. Mac users are mulish. It’s a pathetic war that cannot be won, so why bother? And you people didn’t create this software or hardware, so why are you defending it? Declarations like “I can never go back to…” prove how simple (and single) minded most people are. Get over yourselves.

Be quiet you!

You do the same in those silly Religion Vs. Non-Religion Threads :D
 

Brannon

Member
Damn, I'm surprised that nobody said anything about Bill saving Apple (this one doesn't count). Come on people, it's a PC vs Mac thread; YOU'RE SLIPPING...
 
No I don't. But I should. No subject is worth arguing, ever. You will never change someone's opinion, you will never achieve anything except that feeling of anger over someone being different than yourself. Or that feeling that you're better than someone else.

Topic: I like Macs
First reply: I like PCs
Second reply: Hey, that's swell! Let's be friends.

My world would be a perfect world.

(Starting to see why she never visited forums.)
 
DJ Brannon said:
Damn, I'm surprised that nobody said anything about Bill saving Apple (this one doesn't count). Come on people, it's a PC vs Mac thread; YOU'RE SLIPPING...

Who said it was Mac vs PC before GOD came in apart from a few trolls by goodcow

this thread was about is a Mac = Tech or Lifestyle
 
Has Apple ever produced, or does anyone know if they will produce, a tablet computer? I really like Macs (Can't afford one yet but as soon as I can, MINE.) But I have an Acer TravelMate 300 and I LOVE IT TO DEATH. This tablet PC is the best thing in the world....but I just KNOW that if Apple made a tablet of some kind, I would never, ever touch a PC again.
 

tetsuoxb

Member
Newton!!!!

I have had a PB 12" for a week now ( I gotta go and bitch to get my freeish copy of tiger!).

I was a hardcore PC user before that.... Im not saying I wont try Longhorn, but OSX Panther is a much better OS than Win XP. WHY? Well, because Apple delivers on their hype. It just works properly. Instead of making the unnatural assumptions that Windows XP, and MS code in general, likes to make, Mac OS does things that seem intuitive.

Things I love about Mac OS:
Expose - Why this feature didnt come up before hand is unbelivable to me.
Network Profiles - In two clicks, I can change my computer from unproxied wireless home connection to proxy wired work connection. Granted you can do this in windows, but not in two clicks.
Unix Shell - Makes me feel like comfortable tweaking my system. A terminal window for powerusers is a much better idea than an arcane registry system. Most CS students have experience working in bash session, so it makes more sense when doing tweaks.

Things I dont like about Mac OS:
There are instances when the software is oversimplified. Windows tends to assume that you have the knowledge to do what you want and gives you a blank slate. Mac OS tends to assume that it knows what you want and makes attaining a blank slate a bigger pain then it really should be. For instance, invisible files. The only way to view them in Mac OS is something like FileBuddy or a terminal command line tweak. I understand that the OS wants to keep its business to itself and out of userspace, but I should not have to be forced into third party applications to exercise full control. Nor should I be forced into excess work to expose hidden files, etc.

Im a mac fan now. In general I like the way it works, and I can get to my data/information faster and more intuitively. I think that the combo of the sheer number of windows boxes, the sheer number of windows script kiddies, and the diversity of the userbase will perpetuate an environment for microsoft that requires them to write shoddy unintuitive code. I dont buy that MS wants to make shit software, but I think that circumstances dictate that they are stuck doing so. Every attempt at a massive rewrite to windows has been met with delays, cancellations, or forced backports for the older userbase. WinFS was the right thing to do, but now they arent doing it. It is like that for other core features of longhorn. Im just not optimistic that they can create a better userspace experience for me than what I have on my Powerbook.
 

Lhadatt

Member
I've found that it's best to learn to be platform agnostic. I know XP backwards and forwards, Win Server 2003 not as much but enough, Linux well enough to work in both console and KDE, a bit of FreeBSD's quirks, and quite a bit of Mac OS X.

Most of my off-work computer time is spent on my Mac. It's easy to use, and like Burger said, I feel that the OS encourages me to be more productive. Windows users may scoff at its simplicity, but I find it incredibly refreshing. I don't have to mess with a registry, and installing and removing programs is just a matter of drag and drop. I like not only having a Unix environment behind the OS, but also working in said Unix environment in a nifty cool true transparent terminal window (unlike that "transparent" crap in XWindows).

As to the original question from the thread starter, I think it's a bit of both. The technical people are attracted to OS X because it's neat technology, and then migrate over to Apple's other product lines. The stylish stuff is neat, and some might be compelled to adopt it because Apple is known for intuitive and quality products. The stylish crowd comes for the neat gadgets, but a good number of that group pay attention to the other products. They usually recognize OS X as being easy to use, so a Mac becomes a viable choice in their next computer purchase. This was exactly why the Mac mini was released.
 

Vormund

Member
I enjoy tinkering with my system, so XP is fine for me, and my main PC is used just for web and games.

I've noticed OSX isn't as configurable (not really a problem) and I'd probably switch to a mac if it had games.
 
Vormund said:
I enjoy tinkering with my system, so XP is fine for me, and my main PC is used just for web and games.

I've noticed OSX isn't as configurable (not really a problem) and I'd probably switch to a mac if it had games.

depends, what you mean by configurable means?

OS X GUI Customizations have a large following it may not be what you are speaking of so I'm just curious.
 

number386

Member
Jonnyram said:
Getting my wife a power book for her birthday because her Vaio's past its due date. Bonuses on the side include her being able to use the Internet without any extra education, and she won't infect my PC with spyware any more.

I can't decide which size to get her though - if I got her 17", I'd be jealous all the time :lol


I just bought a 17" Powerbook the screen is amazing. Once you go 17" you never go back!!! If you get her her the 17" you might as well buy two.


Here is a picture of GAF through my world. This a full picture of how it appears on my 17" powerbook.

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tetsuoxb said:
Newton!!!!

I have had a PB 12" for a week now ( I gotta go and bitch to get my freeish copy of tiger!).


Same here were going to have to raise some hell, I was told that starting today people who buy Macs are entitled to getting tiger 10.4 upgradefor $10-$20.
 

AniHawk

Member
My parents are teachers, and back in the 90s, all the schools here had were old Apple computers. We got one in 1996 to get with the times, and it was a Mac. In 2001 we got the G4 as an upgrade. We still have both (I'm using the latter as we speak). I imagine next year we'll get the next big thing from Apple. No one uses the thing as a gaming system, and there was only one major shutdown/crash ever, and that was in 2000 on the old computer.
 

Vormund

Member
Smiles and Cries said:
depends, what you mean by configurable means?

OS X GUI Customizations have a large following it may not be what you are speaking of so I'm just curious.

Not really GUI, just getting right into the system and changing settings and stuff. I'm not really explaining it too well :/
 

dog$

Hates quality gaming
I think the question regarding a Mac purchase solely lies on what programs you intend to use.

My Uncle has been fulfilling his own (current) dream of having a small basement recording studio. He had an elaborate PC setup... and ditched it all for a Mac book months later.

Pro Tools on PC vs Pro Tools on Mac is appalling. I've read hundreds of times that certain image editing software has just as wide of a gap.
 

goodcow

Member
Smiles and Cries said:
Who said it was Mac vs PC before GOD came in apart from a few trolls by goodcow

this thread was about is a Mac = Tech or Lifestyle

Excuse me, where the fuck did I start trolling? I was simply rebutting false claims against the PC. I use a Mac every day at work, and yeah, some things it absolutely shines at, but I really do just perfer the PC.
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
From my several years of experience with OS 7, 8, 9, and X, I can safely say that they gave me about the same amount of problems with my work as any modern Windows platform. Not better, not worse, that's about it.

I really like the aesthetics of Mac and the looks of it's OSX (I don't think it's any more intuitive or productive than WinXP) but the lack of tons of quirky apps that I use on PC is making it impossible for me to just abandon PC. Maybe one day I'll buy a Mac laptop just for fun, but I'll just have to keep the PC.

Also, I've noticed that the most expensive Powerbook just doesn't run apps I use (like Flash) that fast at all. My PC at works runs them a lot faster (it's a 2.4GHz intel, so it makes sense, but it's a big difference and makes it hard swallowing the very high price of 17" powerbook)
 

Mario_Hugo

Lisa Edelstein's dad touched my private parts. True fact.
Macromedia really dropped the ball on Mac support. Flash MX 2004 is buggy and slow. That said, don't be fooled by Safari/Firefox/IE rendering of flash--previewing the SWF rather than embedding it in HTML makes it run smoother than PCs. Totally odd, I know. Its tough being in an industry that more or less requires that I view really dynamic flash content daily, and have it render at half the speed it ought to in the browser. And there are workarounds that get it working smoothly in browsers that people don't seem to like to divulge. I heard odd frame numbers (such as 59 rather than 60) and playing with alphas rather than transparencies boosts performance consideraby (but it simply isn't enough).

As per the question at hand:

I'm going to state this simply. I hate Flash on a mac but everything else works great for my purposes (and the breadth of these purposes ranges from aim to After Effects and everything in between). This said, I am not the type of person who likes spending time tinkering with my machine--I like it to work well, stock. And I always manage to be more productive on a mac (though I work on both platforms from time to time).

As per style--I think gaudy, disgusting casing for PCs is insult to injury. I don't much like working on a PC, but I'm not much fond of destroying the decor of my apartment either. I think PC manufacturers ought to consider some modernist principles and involve some industrial design talent (since I've a sneaking suspicion PC cases are STILL being designed by hardware engineers). And maybe I'm just being a bit pretentious now but the "designer" PC cases people tout on these forums are pretty awful...I like my computer out of the way and understated.

And I think simplicity is Apple's greatest advantage. Accesibility and ease ought to be tenets of a good computer design, inside and out.

I'm running a 2GHZ G5 with 2GIG ram for reference.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Flying Llama said:
Here is a picture of GAF through my world. This a full picture of how it appears on my 17" powerbook.

hgh0nc.jpg

Ooh ooh a pissing contest. Actual resolution on my CRT:

desktopb.jpg
 
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