Is GAF too strict?

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I can't imagine why people would want to do that to other posters. It would make sense if it was some grudge or something but what I've seen has been random... almost like people were bored. I mean... you you're bored, you should just stop posting and find something else to do right?

Some people with very aggressive personalities are quick to take advantage of opportunities where they can assert some kind of power and face no real consequence.
 
Well if you don't react in a bad way to ban bait, you won't get banned right?

Am I missing something here? Cause to me not getting banned has always seemed incredibly easy.

You're not missing anything. It's just that if you follow a trail of posts that end in a ban, you sometimes see a story of escalation. Ultimately we are all in control of how we react but I sometime end up thinking "what's that guy's problem" and half of the time, it's not the guy who just got banned that I'm thinking about.

I'm not really complaining about the bans honestly. I'm wondering if people are noticing that some are fostering the disorder so it'll end up that way.
 
Looking at the Egyptian thread I really hate when users start posting stuf like: see ya!, this gun be good, the grandpa Simpson gif, popcorn gifs or bishop gifs.

It's like their getting off on an idea of a ban. It's a little gross and doesn't contribute anything. I'd much rather people just PM a mod and say hey can you look at this thread/post.
 
Yeah I didn't understand that thread at all. People arguing over what coloured skin Egyptian people have? I... why does it even matter?! D: I don't remember reading anything that banworthy, did it get worse or something?

As a history major I find it interesting.
 
Yeah I didn't understand that thread at all. People arguing over what coloured skin Egyptian people have? I... why does it even matter?! D: I don't remember reading anything that banworthy, did it get worse or something?

It's actually a rather fascinating and relevant subject in my opinion. The race of Egyptian people/rulers at different times in history tells us something about which foreign influences were prevalent during a certain time, and how that affected the development of Egyptian society, culture and technology.
 
Looking at the Egyptian thread I really hate when users start posting stuf like: see ya!, this gun be good, the grandpa Simpson gif, popcorn gifs or bishop gifs.

It's like their getting off on an idea of a ban. It's a little gross and doesn't contribute anything. I'd much rather people just PM a mod and say hey can you look at this thread/post.

If they point it out they can feel responsible for the ban. One moment of being the mod.
 
It's actually a rather fascinating and relevant subject in my opinion. The race of Egyptian people/rulers at different times in history tells us something about which foreign influences were prevalent during a certain time, and how that affected the development of Egyptian society, culture and technology.

TBH i didnt really get the topic - if you go to Egypt now (ive been twice) most of the people look like tanned skin Arabs - like not Dark but not overly fair. I didnt really see the debate on what an Egyptian looks like (i only saw the first post of the thread so didnt see what all the arguments were really about)
 
Sorry for making a thread that started such a controversy, please spare me oh great ones.


But seriously, having to sift through a 1000+ posts to conclude what punishment is to be warranted for whom, must be a bitch. So for that, I am actually sorry
for you
. :p
 
I think GAF is dead in the middle when it comes to how "strict" it is. (Then again the general attitude of the forum is guided by its moderators and administrators.) Usually if you have a problem with it's perceived "strictness" then you just might be here just to post shit. From my experience GAF is very nice about freedom of speech, it doesn't really matter what you say as long as you present a viable argument and put your post in a respectful tone (Or a tasteful humor oriented post).

I have only been banned once since my membership started in 2009, and that was because I overlooked a meme ban and posted "Haters gonna hate" in a Starcraft II thread (Which I find funny in retrospect because I've seen people post that meme tons of times with no gray name attached.) Thankfully at the time I knew a ton of people from GAF already and talked around and got unbanned by the same moderator for having a post history in good standing. I believe this has been posted before, but the moderators are human and sometimes GAF can seem "stricter" at times than others.

Still love this place for how great all the discussions and humor are about everything and anything.
 
These two stickies are interesting:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493623
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493462

I'm expecting people to question every single ban in them, but at least bishoptl is doing it in a relatively transparent manner.

This could be quite interesting..

I think GAF is strict but that's a good thing, I only just got back from my banning (I deserved it) but that month gave me a real feel for how bad it would suck if i got perma'd
 
These two stickies are interesting:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493623
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493462

I'm expecting people to question every single ban in them, but at least bishoptl is doing it in a relatively transparent manner.
Yeah the egypt-op will get perm'd I reckon.

Just skimmed the last few pages of creepy-thread and I don't see the problem.. just a joke thread, close it and move on. I don't know the whole deal but if people are gonna get banned for posting those pics.. yeah, what can you do.
 
I wonder if I'm going to banned due to the Creepshot thread.

I did bail out when things started turning bad. Probably posted one or two more shit reaction gif posts than I needed to though :(
 
These two stickies are interesting:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493623
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493462

I'm expecting people to question every single ban in them, but at least bishoptl is doing it in a relatively transparent manner.

Transparent? He gives a nebulous 'fear me' message and then threatens to ban people? It's flat out bullshit. He best have a good reason for each banning beyond "I don't like what they said". If being creepy or wrong is against the TOS then we're all pretty screwed.
 
Also, those two got stickied as examples?

More or less, once bish digs his ban lawnmower out of his garage. I predict a lot of grey names in that thread when he finally fires it up.

Transparent? He gives a nebulous 'fear me' message and then threatens to ban people? It's flat out bullshit. He best have a good reason for each banning beyond "I don't like what they said". If being creepy or wrong is against the TOS then we're all pretty screwed.

I'm fairly sure sexism and racism is against the forum rules.
 
More or less, once bish digs his ban lawnmower out of his garage. I predict a lot of grey names in that thread when he finally fires it up.



I'm fairly sure sexism and racism is against the forum rules.

I think there's a world of difference between having weird ideas about race and history and being racist though. And sometimes the beauty of the Internet is in reading the crazy stuff that lunatics write. And the creepy thread was very obviously dodgy from the start and should have been locked day one. It's a bantrap.
 
I think there's a world of difference between having weird ideas about race and history and being racist though. And sometimes the beauty of the Internet is in reading the crazy stuff that lunatics write. And the creepy thread was very obviously dodgy from the start and should have been locked day one. It's a bantrap.

What do you mean by dodgy?
 
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Is this actually the first time that two controversial threads get stickied and that a slaughter is being announced like that? Never saw this before, but then again those two threads are.. special.

Besides, I actually love the strictness of GAF
 
I think there's a world of difference between having weird ideas about race and history and being racist though. And sometimes the beauty of the Internet is in reading the crazy stuff that lunatics write. And the creepy thread was very obviously dodgy from the start and should have been locked day one. It's a bantrap.

Hm.

I guess the best way to put it is that we have some discretion on how we treat those topics. You're right that oftentimes when we have topics like that where a large proportion of people are behaving badly, the topic will simply get locked. But banning some posters is always an option in those cases. And I'll also say that this topic did not have to be a "bad" topic. There are some topics that from their inception are going to be bad topics, where there is almost everyone and their mother knows that they will be locked. But I thought that there was plenty to discuss given the subject in that topic without the things that shanshan just mentioned. I do not know why posters expected to get away with it or thought that those things were okay.

bishoptl also happens to be an Administrator, so he's making a public example of them in a way that, say, I or other moderators would not.
 
Bish is how moderating should work. Screw all that "with great power comes" crap and maintaining an even strain, this is hilarious.
 
I'm glad I avoided the creep thread. Generally after a page or two you can tell things are getting out of control in a thread and it's a good time to leave/not post at all.
 
When you say something along the lines of "I'd always been under the impression that the peeps who built the pyramids had the same colour skin as the folks who build everything today (no, not Mexicans) but shock, horror it turns out that those black folks have been at it again" then don't be surprised if your thread is locked up and a ban-announcement is made.
 
Miss a day miss a lot huh..

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That CreepyPic thread was... fucking creepy. I'm happy that Bish/GAF is cracking down on sexist drivel that was going on in there. I hate knowing that every time there is a thread about ______ Women soon to follow will be risque shots of females.

I like the ladies as much as anyone. But there are many places on the net I can go to get a much better fix than GAF. Time and place for everything..
 
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