Is GAF too strict?

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I thought about this question for a couple of months now and event's over the last couple of weeks I've witnessed and even something that's happened to me recently has led me to ask it here even if I haven't got the tact to properly phrase it. Ad to be clear, it's not angled at any specific member.

Is it just me or are there people on GAF who try and get others banned by "playing up" being offended when civilized discourse could easily clear up any discord? I'm not talking about racism, classism, sexism, homophobia or other real cut-and-dry sort of things but rather simply poorly phrased remarks and things of that nature leading the general group to dog-pile after a stink is raised until the matter is out of control.

Do mods take these kinds of situation into consideration or is part of the punishment handed out based on the general reaction by the community. I don't believe we post in bubbles but at the same time, a small group also doesn't speak for the community as well.

Is this a thing on GAF or am I just imagining it? For those who don’t yet have me on ignore, I'd appreciate the feedback.

Yep. I've seen it happen. Sometimes people are absolutely indignant for no other reason than that they can be and I suspect it's due to the very phenomenon you're describing.
 
I'm glad I avoided the creep thread. Generally after a page or two you can tell things are getting out of control in a thread and it's a good time to leave/not post at all.

This is exactly how I've managed to be here 4 years ban free. Got spidey senses tingling.

Also the 'creepshot' thread was disturbing to me bc I have two teenage daughters and if I found out anyone was 'creepshoting' them. I'd probably creep around with a baseball bat.
 
I thought about this question for a couple of months now and event's over the last couple of weeks I've witnessed and even something that's happened to me recently has led me to ask it here even if I haven't got the tact to properly phrase it. Ad to be clear, it's not angled at any specific member.

Is it just me or are there people on GAF who try and get others banned by "playing up" being offended when civilized discourse could easily clear up any discord? I'm not talking about racism, classism, sexism, homophobia or other real cut-and-dry sort of things but rather simply poorly phrased remarks and things of that nature leading the general group to dog-pile after a stink is raised until the matter is out of control.

Do mods take these kinds of situation into consideration or is part of the punishment handed out based on the general reaction by the community. I don't believe we post in bubbles but at the same time, a small group also doesn't speak for the community as well.

Is this a thing on GAF or am I just imagining it? For those who don’t yet have me on ignore, I'd appreciate the feedback.
Yes it's real, no you're not imagining it.
 
I thought about this question for a couple of months now and event's over the last couple of weeks I've witnessed and even something that's happened to me recently has led me to ask it here even if I haven't got the tact to properly phrase it. Ad to be clear, it's not angled at any specific member.

Is it just me or are there people on GAF who try and get others banned by "playing up" being offended when civilized discourse could easily clear up any discord? I'm not talking about racism, classism, sexism, homophobia or other real cut-and-dry sort of things but rather simply poorly phrased remarks and things of that nature leading the general group to dog-pile after a stink is raised until the matter is out of control.

Do mods take these kinds of situation into consideration or is part of the punishment handed out based on the general reaction by the community. I don't believe we post in bubbles but at the same time, a small group also doesn't speak for the community as well.

Is this a thing on GAF or am I just imagining it? For those who don’t yet have me on ignore, I'd appreciate the feedback.

Isn't that just ban-baiting?
That is in itself a bannable offense if you're insistent enough I think.
 
He's not imagining it. In fact, there are usual suspects that are filled to the brim with faux outrage and constantly try to bait other posters. They're just as conducive to shitting up threads as trolls.
 
He's not imagining it. In fact, there are usual suspects that are filled to the brim with faux outrage and constantly try to bait other posters. They're just as conducive to shitting up threads as trolls.
The best part is when they pat themselves on the back, "good riddance."
 
Ya I picked the wrong saturday night to be bored with controversial opinions and the time to defend myself. Hopefully it's not a perm. :/
I didn't see the Egypt thread yesterday but I know GAF well enough to know not to post in race threads. They always get locked and people ALWAYS get banned.

However, I did see the "creep" thread. Browsed it and felt no need to contribute.
 
Damn Bish has not one but two threads stickied so he can "run through with a fucking lawnmower on some accounts." We've had graveyards before, but I have to ask have we ever executions because that's what this feels like. They do make good reading though.

Bish is how moderating should work. Screw all that "with great power comes" crap and maintaining an even strain, this is hilarious.

Your damn straight it is, watching Bish work is better than going to the movies.
 
Oh man, I knew it was wise to leave the creepshot thread alone.
This won't be pretty.

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He's not imagining it. In fact, there are usual suspects that are filled to the brim with faux outrage and constantly try to bait other posters. They're just as conducive to shitting up threads as trolls.

Yep, and with their faux outrage comes the not so subtle hints someone should be banned.

It generates pseudo-debate and great many echo-chambers.
 
Wonder what happened in the Egypt threat. It is a race thread,but the topic didn't seem too bad. When I first saw it, I figured it would just go into how the media can influence the mind. Apparently got a lot worse.
 
He's not imagining it. In fact, there are usual suspects that are filled to the brim with faux outrage and constantly try to bait other posters. They're just as conducive to shitting up threads as trolls.

Agreed. It gets annoying because depending on the topic it's the same 2-3 posters every single time.
 
Wonder what happened in the Egypt threat. It is a race thread,but the topic didn't seem too bad. When I first saw it, I figured it would just go into how the media can influence the mind. Apparently got a lot worse.

It wouldn't be so bad if people accepted on the facts that were posted tho.
 
GAF is like Dawinism at work....survival of the fittest.

The people who get banned are the weak and the non-banned members are the strong.

Like clockwork, a dumb a thread come up and the weak are filtered out.

Only the strong are left standing.
 
Wonder what happened in the Egypt threat. It is a race thread,but the topic didn't seem too bad. When I first saw it, I figured it would just go into how the media can influence the mind. Apparently got a lot worse.

I'm just skimming the thread and while the OP genuinely seems ignorant on the matter, it looks like there are going to be lots of bannings. Who didn't see that thread becoming a graveyard though?

Looks like Bish didn't want to just nuke the threads from orbit, he's going with drone strikes and smart bombs.
 
Wonder what happened in the Egypt threat. It is a race thread,but the topic didn't seem too bad. When I first saw it, I figured it would just go into how the media can influence the mind. Apparently got a lot worse.

The second post from the OP kinda derailed the thread.
 
I'm just skimming the thread and while the OP genuinely seems ignorant on the matter, it looks like there are going to be lots of bannings. Who didn't see that thread becoming a graveyard though?

Looks like Bish didn't want to just nuke the threads from orbit, he's going with drone strikes and smart bombs.

Honestly the Egypt thread isn't all that bad, people can be stupid. But the Creep thread is going to be a massacre.
 
He's not imagining it. In fact, there are usual suspects that are filled to the brim with faux outrage and constantly try to bait other posters. They're just as conducive to shitting up threads as trolls.

I've dubbed them the "Echo Chamber." Same 7-8 posters who show up in otherwise legitimately interesting threads and utterly ruin any chance of an actual discussion.

EDIT: It has already been mentioned. Several times. Heh.
 
I'm just skimming the thread and while the OP genuinely seems ignorant on the matter, it looks like there are going to be lots of bannings. Who didn't see that thread becoming a graveyard though?

Looks like Bish didn't want to just nuke the threads from orbit, he's going with drone strikes and smart bombs.
There's always collateral damage, always!

:'(
 
I knew something odd was happening when both threads were locked and stickied. The first not didn't make sense, but the second one was a clear as day. Holy shit, a mega purge is coming.
 
Honestly the Egypt thread isn't all that bad, people can be stupid. But the Creep thread is going to be a massacre.

I have seen worse, but it's kinda bad. The creep thread is going to be a massacre though, I agree. I'll be shocked if anyone walks away from it. If someone does we may need to start a religion "the one Bish passed over" or something.
 
GAF is like Dawinism at work....survival of the fittest.

The people who get banned are the weak and the non-banned members are the strong.

Like clockwork, a dumb a thread come up and the weak are filtered out.

Only the strong are left standing.

By "strong" you mean the ones willing to 'fall in line' and not have guts to give their opinion?
 
When you say something along the lines of "I'd always been under the impression that the peeps who built the pyramids had the same colour skin as the folks who build everything today (no, not Mexicans) but shock, horror it turns out that those black folks have been at it again" then don't be surprised if your thread is locked up and a ban-announcement is made.

Hi, I'm the guy that was astounded by the discovery that the ancient Egyptians were actually black and after having a read through this thread I still can't see why people are so up in arms about what I said. The mexican comment is a Dave Chappelle reference that I'm really surprised nobody caught and the rest of it is just me saying it how I see it.

Nothing I wrote feels against the TOS as I interpret it, I know it says nothing racial but how else am I supposed to talk about the fact that I always thought the builders of the pyramids looked like this:

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When they really looked like this:

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I don't know about the rest of you but thats a mind blowing discovery that really makes you question what it is that you think know about history.

If anything it's made me realize that any information you've ever been presented with in your life has an agenda attached to it which is why others have gone to such lengths to get that data into your cranium in the first place - The truth and the "truth" can often be diametrically opposed.

For one thing I am stunned that the accomplishments of an entire race have just been whitewashed out of history in one fell swoop like that, its astounding that things like that can happen and here I am 6000 years later believing the lies until a random bit of poking around about chinese pyramids (which was bought on by the Chappelle comment in the earlier sketch) bought up a whole different history.

And finally, the comment that seemed to make most people jump up and down and squeal in anticipation:

replicashooter said:
What? Can anybody deny that the modern world as it stands today truly is the white mans creation?

Well, you can't. Look at the legal system, the financial system, international borders, pharmaceutical methodology etc.. all of it (in its modern form) was crafted and engineered primarily by white folk who then pushed their policies onto the world by virtue of having the biggest guns.

This is not to disparage the works of the arabs for creating the number 0 (nice work), the chinese for thinking of gunpowder (and using it for fireworks instead of M16s) or mexicans for making quesadillas (boo to Taco Bell) as the modern world has been a long, slow slog by people of all hues and abilities to get to where we are now but the implementation has been by white people to benefit (it seems to me) white people.

Why else would nations foreign to other countries lay claim to the vast swathes of natural resources that by the virtue of primacy belong to the folk of that country? These same agreements keep a few local puppets rich in order to help the aforementioned steal the resources which then rob the natives of a fair break and a chance of a decent life whilst then turning around and selling it (at immense profit) to other folk thereby screwing two sets of people at once.

Dolla dolla bill, y'all.

This ain't about black or white, its about truth and lies, wrong and right and all I can do is call it how I see it and thank those that help blow the webs of ignorance out of my mind on the journey and if I'm wrong in attempting to make myself wiser then so be it.
 
I have seen worse, but it's kinda bad. The creep thread is going to be a massacre though, I agree. I'll be shocked if anyone walks away from it. If someone does we may need to start a religion "the one Bish passed over" or something.

The gaffer who lived.
 
Your thread got locked. Please don't turn this one into a continuation of yours.

Not trying to backseat mod, just as a personal favor to me how about?
 
I have seen worse, but it's kinda bad. The creep thread is going to be a massacre though, I agree. I'll be shocked if anyone walks away from it. If someone does we may need to start a religion "the one Bish passed over" or something.

...So, everyone in the thread is going to be banned?

Goodbye GAF...
 
Yep, and with their faux outrage comes the not so subtle hints someone should be banned.

It generates pseudo-debate and great many echo-chambers.

This is where you get off track.

You might have a point that sometimes posters do not respond in the most constructive manner to the sexist or simply ignorant comments that certain posters tend to make, but the disgust is genuine. And for whatever it is worth, when I see one poster say something appallingly ignorant, and I see another poster respond angrily, I don't blame the second poster for being angry with the first poster.

I've dubbed them the "Echo Chamber." Same 7-8 posters who show up in otherwise legitimately interesting threads and utterly ruin any chance of an actual discussion.

Can you explain what you mean?

From my perspective, the topics that you are talking about are echo chambers until posters with conflicting perspectives show up, and that is precisely what those posters you are complaining about are doing. It is not as if they are simply echoing each other's posts; they are engaging and interacting with people who disagree with them. There might sometimes be an unnecessary level of rancor, but that is not specific to those posters and is at least as much the fault of the posters whom they are engaging with.

And I know that I am sometimes placed in that category; or at least I argue the same positions as those posters do. I don't really view myself as being in an echo chamber when I participate in those topics, because I'm having a discussion / argument with people whom I disagree with. So I don't really get the characterization of those users serving as an echo chamber.
 
What? Can anybody deny that the modern world as it stands today truly is the white mans creation?

No dude, you are so getting banned for that one. I've read guns germs and steel and yes a lot of modern advances come out of the European, Mediterranean, and middle eastern regions. But there are hundreds of cultures and societies that have existed in that region over the millennia. It was a pretty ignorant blanket statement.

The disillusion comes from the European dominance during the colonial period, which exists very close to our modern era. Previous to that you saw cultures all over the world flourishing.
 
Can you explain what you mean?

There is a vast difference between having a discussion, and holding council on opinions among people who already agree with you. You can identify these people by the use of "So, what you're saying is..." and having the resulting idiocy requoted by the next few posters slapping the initiator on the back, usually with condescending snark toward the post in question. And yes, either there is usually a healthy amount of faux outrage in these types of threads, or they lead really unhealthy lives. It's not good to get that worked up over variances in opinions, as long as they're not born from obvious, clear cut racist, sexist, etc mindsets.

For the record, the only thing you're guilty of is still liking Mariah. The 90s are way, way over. It's time to move on. :(
 
By "strong" you mean the ones willing to 'fall in line' and not have guts to give their opinion?

What are you talking about? Fall in line?

I state my opinion all the time on GAF as do others. But I think before I post things in this forum. Alot of members don't do that. They post stupid and offensive things and that's what gets them banned.

Case in point: Post #2802.
 
There is a vast difference between having a discussion, and holding council on opinions among people who already agree with you. You can identify these people by the use of "So, what you're saying is..." and having the resulting idiocy requoted by the next few posters slapping the initiator on the back, usually with condescending snark toward the post in question.

Add me to the list who is getting tired of the people you talk about.
 
By "strong" you mean the ones willing to 'fall in line' and not have guts to give their opinion?

I consider myself a fairly moderate person on many issues (conservative by gaf standards, but moderate by most other measures) that has all but stopped posting his opinion on anything related to religious, political, or gender-related "discussions" due to volume of dead bodies those kinds of threads leave in their wakes, especially for people like me. For the few posts that I make in the gaming side of the forum, it's not worth coming over to OT and getting banned for expressing my personal opinions, backward as they are.

If by 'willing to fall in line' you mean 'not posting racist, homophobic or sexist shit' then yes I suppose so.

Those terms are immensely loaded and difficult to define. "That's racist" or "That's sexist" is practically a meme here said in jest because it's so easy to mudsling even when you're not being serious.
 
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