Still, that Blasty guy beat me for 42 hours. I'd like to know what was the longest time someone had to wait for approval, and the shortest too.
Is GAF too strict?
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My posts in this thread have been as aggressive as a typical Devo tirade? Really?
I think that says a lot about how much your bias is distorting your perception. Seems to me that you are downplaying the level of anger and vitriol she posts with regularly, and are also overstating my comments quite a bit because the subject is someone you agree with and consider an ally. I think this bias is why you also dismiss legit criticism of how she posts as "oh the misogynists are just hatin wimmins again".
It's human nature that we tolerate a lot more from people we like and agree with, and conversely with those whom we disagree our tolerance is much shorter. Let's not insult our intelligence by pretending that this is not a factor in how GAF is moderated.
God bless marrec, but let's be real. He is no Devo. Not even close. That's not for lack of effort, mind you, but he simply doesn't have the same raw fury burning deep inside him. Or if he does, he doesn't let it flow into his message board posts as purely as she does. No one on this forum does.
Now, I do agree that when people call her out in threads she isn't in, or make lame .gif posts about how she is coming because the subject is rape or whatever, that is useless noise and not helpful and should be curbed. But she earned that reputation through months and months of aggressive and angry posting, it wasn't just assigned to her randomly. And it certainly wasn't given to her because she is a woman.
Curses! You've developed an immunity!
I reiterate my desire for you to produce one tiny shred of actual evidence for your position. Or do you exist entirely in a faith-based paradigm here?
Broder Salsa
Banned
6 hours to get approved? Not perma'd as a junior?
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE
The chosen one was my user registering that for some reason was denied approval
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=394445
:'(
Also sucked as I then had to wait like a fucking year again for junior approval time again.
I want to throw in a "PC-ness" question that came up watching Community.
Annie tells people who call her Jew to "use the whole word". I'm not a native speaker, so I have no idea what thatvword would be. Jewishperson as one word or what?
No, seriousely, please tell me before I compound negative stereotypes about "antisemitic Germans" by using a wrong expression.
Annie tells people who call her Jew to "use the whole word". I'm not a native speaker, so I have no idea what thatvword would be. Jewishperson as one word or what?
No, seriousely, please tell me before I compound negative stereotypes about "antisemitic Germans" by using a wrong expression.
Jewie?
"Jewish" as an adjective tends to be preferred to "Jew" as a noun
AlimNassor
Banned
I think OT just has a crush on Devo.
We get it.
And no, sorry.
I know I do.
You're wrong
It's Timedog everyone has a crush on
Everyone are just jealous of Devo
Again, I have never witnessed a poster here at GAF straight-up insulting people for so long like Devo was. There were mods who "abused" their power in the past, but they never straight up threw up insults like Devo used to do.
SniperHunter
Banned
Speak for yourself son.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Search her post history from months ago. I don't see her being much like that these days.
Shouta
Member
Pretty sure people don't like your aggressive posting style either. However, at least from my view point, you aren't in full aggro mode all the time and you'll actually discuss something using a more neutral tone when you're in the mood for it. Of course, that's my perspective and some folks my feel different.
I don't think the dislike for Devo comes from being a woman. That's not to say it may not have a minor contributing factor though. However, her posting style matches up with many of the folks that have been quite disliked in the past around here. The volume of posts and her presence in many other threads also adds to that. It really it isn't just about being aggressive because, as many people have pointed out, there are many equally aggressive posters here. But it's that and adding a bunch of other elements into the bundle that cultivates that overall image.
Dude, in her own words:
That was more than 6 months ago now and things have changed but the Internet has a looooong memory. Especially when that era has introduced some questionable policies (cracking down on 'cunt' regardless of context, making a huge hoo-haa about victim blaming but only for very specific victims).Devolution said:
I still think Devo's cool though, regardless of our constant squabbling. You need the stirrers to keep the pot moving.
Actually, this too.
dinazimmerman
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yeah, gaf generally gives girl posters way too much attention, negative and positive. some dudes treat them with kid gloves, while others -- usually reacting to this special treatment -- are especially nasty to them. their hormones make them forget these girls are just random nerds on the internet like the rest of us. at any rate, in any argument, it's best to just ignore assholes and their assholish comments. don't let Devo's annoying debate tactics get the best of you; you won't learn anything that way. after all, learning something new is ultimately the only reason you should endeavor to argue on the internet.
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Lionel Mandrake
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This ruins the whole "Poor Blasty" running joke.
Fuck it, I'm just going to pretend he was permed.
Poor Blasty. He was so wide-eyed and full of promise.
freenudemacusers
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I was contacted by a mod who wishes to remain anonymous.
afternoon delight
Member
That's what I was thinking, but it's weird, isn't it? You have to say a Christian, a Hindu and a Jewish person walk into a bar as if there were Jewish cars or cows or something and you have to differentiate.
It's just strange to me, because here, were persecution of Jew(ish people of all ages, sexes and colours)s ranged from putting yellow hats on them to dropping Cyclon B on them, people are still saying that they are Jude
= Jew(s) when talking or stating their religious denomination. What the hell did the English speaking world do that the correct noun is considered offensive?!PS: And Jewish isn't the "whole word" for Jew D:
PPS: I totally want to improve German-Jewish relations with Annie Adderall
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It sorta was heating up, but I guess it has subsided.
Holy shit at that other thread though, wow.
Uh, no offense, but it actually wasn't the English-speaking world that caused there to be a hypersensitivity towards using the right word for Jewish people.
charlequin
Banned
Even speaking as a crotchety conscientious-objector on the whole RealGAF thing, I think we have pretty clearly and decisively chosen to be about the former.
I think a lot of people could benefit from some deep reflection about why exactly Devo is at the top of their shitlist despite the presence of other posters who post with similar vehemence on similar issues. (Or, for that matter, why they were ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that we continued to ban for sexism even after Dragona was no longer on staff.)
Enosh
Member
load of bullshit, no one on gaf gets banned for having an unpopular opinion
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The latter; actually, I'd prefer not banning anyone at all, using warnings to get people to stop, and ideally having good posters make the first 20-30 replies to set the thread on the right track to begin with. But wishes aren't fishes, unfortunately.
Uh, none taken, but as I said, German people of Jewish faith still use our direct translation for Jew, Jude, for themselves, which is what was printed on the stars they had to wear .
But in English you can't say Jew.
Bay Maximus
Banned
what was bish's avatar before Black Snake Moan came out?
AlimNassor
Banned
Gaf isn't that bad. Gamefaqs version of OT pretty much idolizes girl users. Girl users pretty much get free everything from their legion of mindless drooling white knights praying she'll sleep with them. it's hilariously sad, because, say one negative thing about one of them and the White Knights go berserk calling you a "loser irl" or "jealous".
I think Gaf has a crush on Devo or Time Dog.
Greatest news I've heard all day.
Denzel from Training Day or something, wasn't it?
Byakuya769
Member
I wonder how my style is perceived.
fu3lfr3nzy
Member
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7aibe365u1qeh64lo2_500.gif
in case anyone's wondering, its from Gravity Falls
Count Dookkake
Member
Yup.
You see Blasty, it's not so bad. You'll be back on your feet before you know it.
But to imply that people resent Devo sorely because of the cause she stands for is a wrong assessment. There could be a relation but it doesn't paint the whole picture.
Vennt didn't like you when he thought you were my alt account.
Count Dookkake
Member
Ok, might have been too strong of a word, but you get my point.
I haven't frequented any of those thread so to be honest, it's the first time I've heard about it.
I'm not sure why she's attracting haters now, but it might be hatred some dudes are holding against her from way back.
charlequin
Banned
What is the "whole picture" here, to your mind?
Nomenclature for groups is kind of tricky in general. Dominant or hegemonic groups tend to be nice and straightforward because the loudest and pushiest people in the group pick out what they like and they have the clout and power to make everyone else say it. For marginalized groups, though, previously acceptable terms can become problematic pretty quickly, and you get a lot more disagreement within the group about what's acceptable. (Look at the huge range of disagreement about proper nomenclature for indigenous Americans and how greatly the consensus differs between the US and Canada, for example.)
Steve Youngblood
Member
It's odd to me how some will preemptively call her out in anything even vaguely related to women's issues, but as to why she rubs some people the wrong way, I don't think it's that difficult to figure out. She has a confrontational style, and I think many -- erroneously in my mind but that's up for debate -- suspect that she gets away with it in a manner that many others would get banned for, which further breeds resentment.
Mind you, this is just my take on the situation as someone playing devil's advocate, as I like Devo as a poster. We certainly don't share much in the way of posting style, but I see eye to eye with her on most issues.
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