Interfectum
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It's not a killer app. A massive amount of people aren't going to buy the PS4 specifically to play Killzone. It's the opposite. The PS4 is Killzone's killer app.
Is Killzone: Shadow Fall PS4's killer app?
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mrlovepump
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This Killzone is quite important as there will be many 360ers moving over and will many getting the KZ bundle this will be their first taste of the game.
Sony was quite smart to push a KZ bundle because if it wasnt packed in I am sure many non-ps3ers would have just opted for BF and/or COD and it would of been forgotten.
For sure though every new console needs that graphics game that people buy for no other reason than to show off their new toy to friends / family. You wont admit it but you know its true. As others have said thats why Ryse will sell regardless of it looking about as fun as w**king with barbed wire wrapped around your fist.
Sony was quite smart to push a KZ bundle because if it wasnt packed in I am sure many non-ps3ers would have just opted for BF and/or COD and it would of been forgotten.
For sure though every new console needs that graphics game that people buy for no other reason than to show off their new toy to friends / family. You wont admit it but you know its true. As others have said thats why Ryse will sell regardless of it looking about as fun as w**king with barbed wire wrapped around your fist.
Some of you fans are crazy. The game looks good yes, but killer app, no. Ask yourself if this game has more hype or promise than the killer apps of the PS3. KZ2 was a fantastic and fun ass game to play, yet it still received an underwhelming response. I feel this will bemore of the same, minus the better gameplay.
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It looks pretty neat, and I am not a first person shooter guy at all. I will probably get bored halfway through, though, especially since I don't play games online generally.
Nymphae
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I feel like this is the general attitude towards the game, and I really wonder why. I've never played the other games, but it looks like a very solid shooter with a unique look, great graphics, and apparently solid multiplayer. I feel like COD/BF just had so much mindshare people didn't bother with KZ, also because of platform exclusivity.
Exactly
njean777
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I guess 8-9's are underwhelming...
Anyways it is the killer app for me. Been waiting for a new killzone.
BloodMoney
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...what would you definite as a top-level shooter?
Boss Man
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I agree with this notion. I disagree that Killzone definitely won't move PS4s though.
Since all of that 'core' community will be hopping over to PS4, if Killzone happens to be the best FPS to play then people will hear that and start buying PS4s to play it. I'm not saying it will be, but I think this is definitely its chance to deliver and become *the* shooter or not deliver and continue to be a shooter.
Personally I think the Killzone franchise is going to be a lot bigger next gen.
Killzone 2 is by no means an amazing shooter. It's got a mediocre story and several frustratingly difficult sections in the game.
HOWEVER, it's more than competent, it's quite solid and I frankly really enjoyed both. The story is so lame I skip it (and I NEVER skip story)
The gunplay is fantastic and frankly, FUCK the whiners about the weight, it feels fucking great. You feel like a big heavy padded soldier when moving and aiming your heavy gun but in all the right ways.
Really fun games, graphically mindblowing at points too. I think they are under rated.
Do you really rate things by what critics say? I guess MSG4 is the most bestest game last gen right?
Really? Resistance (PS3 cost $599 at the time) went up against a clearly better looking Gears of War which was on a cheaper competitive platform.
Killzone Shadowfall is undoubtedly the best looking next-gen console release of 2013.
Every Killzone outing has sold better than any Resistance outing including the original.
It's starting to look like a killer app for me. For various reasons, the graphics look to be the best for next gen, with 1080p, and 60FPS for multiplayer. Thye artstyle is also great. But like some people it doesn't end with just graphics, this Killzone seems to look great in other areas too. The story seems much better looking at the trailers and I just like the synopsis on this one as it's not some crazy all out galactic war. The story also seems more personal looking at the trailer it seems Guerilla Games are putting some emphasis on story this time. Finally the gameplay fopr singleplayer looks way better than the old Killzone games and COD/Battlefield games. It isn't linear and has much more open spaces, where you can do objectives how you want, add destructable walls, and the Owl to the mix it seems like a more fresher experience than your average linear shooter. Finally I love that they made Multiplayer 60FPS and have everything unlocked in the get go, the announcement of free maps in the future is also another bonus. Seems like a great package to me, and not just a graphics showcase some people make out it to be.
If it does good, I hope this IP succeeds how Uncharted was a breakout hit with Uncharted 2. Same for inFamous Second Son.
If it does good, I hope this IP succeeds how Uncharted was a breakout hit with Uncharted 2. Same for inFamous Second Son.
fatgamecat
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It's a graphical showpiece but I'm pretty sure it won't move BF4/CoD's numbers.
plagiarize
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you don't simulate weight with input lag. it was input lag.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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Do people not realize that attempting to dub any PS platform game as a 'killer app' is a sure for way to curse it?
Every time that term starts getting thrown around the game launches and falls short. Let's just leave it alone and see what happens. It will be a good seller during the launch year for sure but it's not going to be a halo or TLoU.
Every time that term starts getting thrown around the game launches and falls short. Let's just leave it alone and see what happens. It will be a good seller during the launch year for sure but it's not going to be a halo or TLoU.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Killzone and infamous are nowhere near killer apps. Not even in the same ballpark. They're just the best games available that will likely be bought with the console. That doesn't mean they will sell consoles in significant numbers.
Mario 64 was a killer app. Halo was a killer app.
Mario 64 was a killer app. Halo was a killer app.
NathanMcMahon
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Didn't really plan on diving into the launch madness but this game may be the sole reason to do it really.
Byakuya769
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What does this sentence even mean?
Then it's really weird that's it tracking ahead of all but one PS4/XBO game on the Amazon bestsellers list.
im a junior so i cant make threads but i found that gamersyde had multiplayer footage at 60fps. looks freaking incredible. http://www.gamersyde.com/news_pgw_killzone_multiplayer-14785_en.html
TimeEffect
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FPS market is overloaded at launch, but Killzone has the best chance of delivering a great single player...probably of all the launch games across both platforms.
If Killzone can deliver the promise for SP, the game may finally cement the IP further than Killzone 2 was able to... the multiplayer has too much competition to stick out as a killer app, but at least it looks solid. Personally, the SP potential has me real excited.
I'm really surprised that they are holding the MP reveals back. I want to see some custom warzone gameplay and more video trailers focusing on the gameplay features for MP.
If Killzone can deliver the promise for SP, the game may finally cement the IP further than Killzone 2 was able to... the multiplayer has too much competition to stick out as a killer app, but at least it looks solid. Personally, the SP potential has me real excited.
I'm really surprised that they are holding the MP reveals back. I want to see some custom warzone gameplay and more video trailers focusing on the gameplay features for MP.
Dr. Zoidberg
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I think "Killer App" equates to "System Seller", so I say No, it's not. Neither console has a killer app yet.
Pai Pai Master
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Hehe, I hear ya. And Killzone does look great. But I don't understand why people place so much importance on there being this ONE game that's going to get everyone to buy the console, when in reality not everyone wants the same things and won't be looking for that one game. Especially prior to launch when we've barely seen what Sony's really cooking.
Unless you're Nintendo, in which case...MarioKart or something.
I think that's where the "killer app" narrative really comes from anyway. They're the only ones who've ever really succeeded in selling any games at or near a 1:1 ratio with their hardware. It's long been one of the ways of trying to downplay Sony's greater emphasis on catalog diversity since they got into the console market. But it's only really been a good metric for Nintendo consoles, not really any other platforms released in the past decade or more.
People need to check out the new SP demo. The sandbox gameplay is very impressive. Playing as a secret agent has opened up gameplay options to be stealth, go in guns blazing, disable the entire maps communications, have thrill ride style set pieces, etc.
The range of missions in that forest level is much more diverse than I could have imagined. At one point, the player literally starts scaling a mountain to get to an objective on the map.
I understand why there is skepticism but the footage is out there that should at least be inspiring. The negativity for the sake of negativity this game gets literally makes no sense to me as a fan of games based on the footage GG has shown.
The range of missions in that forest level is much more diverse than I could have imagined. At one point, the player literally starts scaling a mountain to get to an objective on the map.
I understand why there is skepticism but the footage is out there that should at least be inspiring. The negativity for the sake of negativity this game gets literally makes no sense to me as a fan of games based on the footage GG has shown.
theclosetfan
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It could be.
Grand Theft Auto didn't become a "killer app" franchise until 3. I've never been drawn to Killzone until now, but I'm going in with an open mind.
Grand Theft Auto didn't become a "killer app" franchise until 3. I've never been drawn to Killzone until now, but I'm going in with an open mind.
Isn't it Sony's least popular/lowest selling exclusive franchise (Might actually be Infamous but Killzone might the better seller)?
It may be a killer app to some GAF posters but the masses don't care enough about Killzone, based on 3 allegedly selling significantly worse than 2 and allegedly more pre-orders for BF4 and CoD: Ghosts on PS4 than Killzone Shadowfall. It doesn't really offer anything of note to the FPS playing masses. if they want large scale MP, they'll go to Battlefield; if they want fast paced arena twitch MP, they'll play CoD. There is no middle ground for them. The campaign just looks like Syndicate if the publishers/developers cared for it (I am in the minority that enjoyed Syndicate so maybe I'll enjoy Shadowfall's campaign but it's a series I generally don't care about) and we know how well that sold. Enthusiasts have no problem picking up new games, everyone else is going to stick with what they know and what's proven. They didn't care about texture resolution and polycounts last gen so they won't care this gen either.
It may be a killer app to some GAF posters but the masses don't care enough about Killzone, based on 3 allegedly selling significantly worse than 2 and allegedly more pre-orders for BF4 and CoD: Ghosts on PS4 than Killzone Shadowfall. It doesn't really offer anything of note to the FPS playing masses. if they want large scale MP, they'll go to Battlefield; if they want fast paced arena twitch MP, they'll play CoD. There is no middle ground for them. The campaign just looks like Syndicate if the publishers/developers cared for it (I am in the minority that enjoyed Syndicate so maybe I'll enjoy Shadowfall's campaign but it's a series I generally don't care about) and we know how well that sold. Enthusiasts have no problem picking up new games, everyone else is going to stick with what they know and what's proven. They didn't care about texture resolution and polycounts last gen so they won't care this gen either.
njean777
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You are talking to the wrong person about that, MGS4 was one of my favorite games from last gen. So yes I do think it deserved the praise it got.
That was my exact reaction, wtf is this guy saying.
Man-is-Obsolete
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SuperSonic1305
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If 3 million+ copies is Sony's lowest selling franchise then they are in great shape.
That1BlackGuy
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I love Killzone but it has never been a killer app, however I do expect Shadow Fall to put up the best numbers in the franchise.
DenogginizerOS
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From a sound design perspective, yes.
WoolyNinja
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Not sure there really are "killer apps" anymore. Can anyone tell me of a killer app on the Xbox 360 or PS3? There really was never one game that made people need to go out and buy either.
Series wide or for Killzone 3?
NoMoreTrolls
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You must be Joeking with that statement, right?
Definitely not series wide
FaintColt388301
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Yeah, it'll sell really well. GG did a good job getting this out in time for launch. Most PS4 buyers will pick it up just for that next gen feel and lack of other games. This game is going to get a lot of attention. They made a good decision switching the visual style of the game. It really sets it apart from the other shooters out there.
Can you imagine if MS would have played their cards a little better and not released Halo 4 last year and made a next gen one for launch?
Masked_Ninja
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That would be stupid of them to do, as the Xbox will sell a ton/sell out anyway, so its not like its going to significantly help move units this winter.
It can do that next winter. Makes a million times more sense.
Allonym
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Kinda ironic that you guys say this concerning Infamous considering that the KZ series has consistently outsold Infamous but hey everyone has their own opinions. From what we've seen of both titles, I'm under the impression that KZSF is doing more in the effort to differentiate itself from the other games in it's franchise.