Is refusing to date people of certain races racist?

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Ask him if he'd date Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Hillary (Fresh Prince), Christina Millian etc..if he says no to any then he's a racist.

They have the symmetry and child bearing characteristics that would make any man weak in the knees (and other places)

That's a trick question because even if he says yes he's basically admitting that only super hot black women are "acceptable" for him.
 
Well they often share similar origins, but they're, at least sometimes, rather different, require different solutions, and plenty of people who contribute to systemic racism, literally everyone, are quite possible to reach. There clearly is some degree of analytical utility to differentiating them.

I realize there's a discursive goal in trying to make them one in the same, and I respect that people certainly have good intentions in seeking that goal. That being said, I don't think it's ultimately useful.

I was more pointing to the fact that systemic racism can be just as actively discriminatory as regular old racism. I was talking more about your use of terms, not the underlying analysis, which I largely agree with.
 
Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.

Wow, I didn't even see this. Utter nonsense. People aren't culture, and we shouldn't have rules on who people shouldn't be dating.

So many of these attempts to use the language of progressives against them are just laughable. It also betrays a fundamental lack of consideration of what the words are used for and what they are doing.
 
I don't know how can you not wanna date different races. Women from all races are beautiful in their own unique ways. I love women regardless of their race.
 
what if I only like dogs that are the color black?

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I was more pointing to the fact that systemic racism can be just as actively discriminatory as regular old racism.

Ah, well I was trying to avoid using the words positive, in the sense of active, racism and negative, in the sense of passive, racism because that would get misinterpreted really fast.
 
I love this thread. If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.

So you can call out the Asian girl in your anime club that never dates white guys as a racist?

Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.

That’s some verbiage right there
 
if i dont hire mexican people, how am i racist? it's not that i think they're inferior, i just don't hire them at my business

here we fuckin gooooo lmao

So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?


"I would never date a black woman"

"why?"

*no response*

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I understand but people are equating this to all people who won't date a different or specific race as racists. Even though there could be no other issues with the race and even love for them all but because italians don't get their wheels turning they are racist is my argument and what I don't understand. It's this knee jerk response that is so baffling around here. If dude won't date them but has ever said a remotely racist thing in the past how could you consider him racist?

You might as well use the additional definition Google provides:
"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

In this case, the characteristic of "unattractiveness" is assumed to be held by black women, according to the OP's friends, hence why he could "never date them". This is different from having a preference.

I get that but the blanket "yes racist" is absurd to me. Maybe he didn't want to talk about it or he is racist but in general not wanting to date a specific race shouldn't automatically make you a racist person. That's like calling everyone not a pedofile a kid hater.


The human race was a mistake. People really think like this.

Yeah differing view on a thing. I was a mistake. God forbid someone not tow the ultra liberal line around here and question something instead of just a wall of YES YES YES concerning a topic of race.
 
There's so much variability in how people look that it's kind of hard to believe you couldn't find anybody in a particular race that doesn't push your buttons.
 
I mean if he's not attracted to them, then no, it's not.

There is about 560 million 'black' women on the planet, and you are telling me it's not racist to say that you categorically would not date any of them?

The problem is the assumption that there is a fundamental them there is racist. Black women do not have to look a certain way. Black is a social category, not a biological thing.
 
I love this thread. If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.

So you can call out the Asian girl in your anime club that never dates white guys as a racist?

Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.

1. Fetishizing a race is bad, yes.

2. Judging whether or not someone is datable based on their race is bad, yes.

3. That's not cultural appropriation.
 
This... is a post.

It's a crap post. Everyone is different and views change over time. Was the OP statement from a 19 yr old that has never interacted with another race or a 40 yr old that lives in a big city? Both maybe be racist for saying they won't date a black woman but like everything in life the interpretation depends on the details.
 
One thing is having a preference, like hair color or something like that but damn, an entire race? Yes, of course, super racist.
 
what if I only like dogs that are the color black? What if i dont like all cats?

I mean aside from those being pets and not human beings, those are completely distinct species of mammal.

Try harder with your logic, you were so close to having a point.
 
Evolution has us favor those who look like we do. It’s the basis of our fear of “the other”. Saying you won’t date someone of a particular race because it’s somehow intrinsically less deserving of you than another race then yeah, it’s racist.
 
I don't know how can you not wanna date different races. Women from all races are beautiful in their own unique ways. I love women regardless of their race.

I'll throw my hat in for this. I'll date anyone regardless of race/nationality/ethnicity/skin color.

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or gender.

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Honestly I'll date pretty much anyone. I don't care.
 
How annoying that this discussion has to use black women as the example.

The OP's friend brought up black women, what'd you think was going to happen...

It's a crap post. Everyone is different and views change over time. Was the OP statement from a 19 yr old that has never interacted with another race or a 40 yr old that lives in a big city? Both maybe be racist for saying they won't date a black woman but like everything in life the interpretation depends on the details.

In this context, it absolutely does not.
 
I wouldn't date people of other races. Not because I have anything against them, but I'd rather not be disowned by my family.

Southasain dude here
 
LOL at equating what fucking fruit you like to eat or what pets you have to dating a human being
 
It's a crap post. Everyone is different and views change over time. Was the OP statement from a 19 yr old that has never interacted with another race or a 40 yr old that lives in a big city? Both maybe be racist for saying they won't date a black woman but like everything in life the interpretation depends on the details.

It really doesn't, because the statement is racist either way
 
So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?

tell me, what do mexicans look like?
 
Isn't dating inherently discriminatory on many levels? Physical, cultural, mental attractants or detractants colour any objectivity.

I kind of find it difficult to believe that any one would honestly say they could never be with anyone because of any one single trait.

There's got to be an exception somewhere.
 

Mexico and Italy have a combined population of ~180 million people, if you can categorically state that you would date none of those people because 'they don't get your wheels turning' you're a fucking idiot.

The problem is the assumption that there is a fundamental them there is racist. Black women do not have to look a certain way. Black is a social category, not a biological thing.

Hence my scare quotes.
 
So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all.

No, now change "a mexican" to "Mexicans" and yes, yes you are racist. I'm also not too sure about the validity of the second sentence.

But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?

The fact that you've given an, essentially arbitrary, social category the power to take away someone's "spark" mean yes, you are racist.

I understand but people are equating this to all people who won't date a different or specific race as racists. Even though there could be no other issues with the race and even love for them all but because italians don't get their wheels turning they are racist is my argument and what I don't understand.

Italian is also a biologically meaningless term. There is no core Italian look that all Italians share.

It's this knee jerk response that is so baffling around here. If dude won't date them but has ever said a remotely racist thing in the past how could you consider him racist?

Well if we use racist operationally, which is generally how I think it's used though there's also a problematic aspect of essentializing it, to mean someone is acting in a racist way, then it doesn't matter what that person has done before. If he is being racist now then he is racist.

Also I think you're only using kneejerk because people disagree with you. A lot of posts in this thread aren't well thought out or articulated, but neither is yours.

I get that but the blanket "yes racist" is absurd to me. Maybe he didn't want to talk about it or he is racist but in general not wanting to date a specific race shouldn't automatically make you a racist person. That's like calling everyone not a pedofile a kid hater.

Except it isn't anything like that at all. What a horrible comparison.

Yeah differing view on a thing. I was a mistake. God forbid someone not tow the ultra liberal line around here and question something instead of just a wall of YES YES YES concerning a topic of race.

You made bad arguments, the tone might have been a little too harsh, but I'm not going to berate people for that.

Hence my scare quotes.

I was just quoting you there to go further on that point.

Mexico and Italy have a combined population of ~180 million people, if you can categorically state that you would date none of those people because 'they don't get your wheels turning' you're a fucking idiot.

It's also worth noting that I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they would never date an Italian or a Mexican because they are categorically not attracted to them. This is going on here because of racism and racialized thinking.
 
I'm sure a lot of people on GAF—possibly this very thread harbor similar sentiments about certain races. Obviously it's impossible to change how you feel deep down, but please, please don't justify your racism with "I can't change how I feel!" Keep it curbed or try to change, but don't live your life as someone who willingly thinks "I refuse to date X race."
 
So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?

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GAF please, I don't think I can survive in this thread.

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