Is refusing to date people of certain races racist?

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So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?

The problem with saying that you don't find any black or any "Mexican" people physically attractive is that there is such a huge range of appearances in both groups that your tastes would have to be hyper-specific to disclude all of them. For instance, by US definitions of race, Rashida Jones is black, despite having facial features that are typically associated with being "white".

The statement itself is racist, as you are stereotyping large groups of very diverse human beings.

No one finds every single member of their gender(s) of choice attractive. Everyone has their own preferences (for infinitely different reasons). I don't think that most people are denying that part.
 
Yes, there's a difference between preferences and outright not dating someone regardless of their personality or physical features just due to their race.
 
I mean would he fuck a black girl? I fuck tons of girls my family wouldn’t approve of racially so I can’t date them outright. Personally as long as you’re open to having sex with a person of another race I wouldn’t call you racist.
 
I get that but the blanket "yes racist" is absurd to me. Maybe he didn't want to talk about it or he is racist but in general not wanting to date a specific race shouldn't automatically make you a racist person. That's like calling everyone not a pedofile a kid hater.

First, your analogies need a lot of work.

Second, just because someone's preferences are informed by social factors doesn't not make those preferences racist. If I'm raised in an environment where I'm taught that light skin is the standard of beauty and that means I consider darker skinned people undatable, then I'm still racist. It's unfortunate and a problem of the system that produced me, but that doesn't negate the harms caused by me spreading the belief. The way to stop it is by calling the person out and trying to shake them out of their belief.
 
So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?
If you don't find a particular Mexican person attractive, then no, that doesn't make you racist.

If you don't find any Mexican people attractive, then yes, unfortunately, you are racist.
 
I mean would he fuck a black girl? I fuck tons of girls my family wouldn’t approve of racially so I can’t date them outright. Personally as long as you’re open to having sex with a person of another race I wouldn’t call you racist.

Uhh...

Now I'm reminded of that one Insecure episode...
 
To think people are un/nattractive is fine.
To think just a race for merely being that race is entirely unattractive most likely means that feeling is rooted in something worse.
 
Not without caveats you didn't, thereby nullifying your initial answer, as was your intent.

If you say so. Would this make you feel better, yes it is racist. But does it effect anyone else, but the person making the statement? They themselves are limiting the their own options and making it easier for others to avoid them.
 
Not liking certain physical characteristics is one thing, not liking an entire race is a completely different beast, and that beast is pretty racist.
 
I mean would he fuck a black girl? I fuck tons of girls my family wouldn’t approve of racially so I can’t date them outright. Personally as long as you’re open to having sex with a person of another race I wouldn’t call you racist.

You'd be wrong, plenty of racists have no problem having sex with a member of the race they look down upon.
 
So if I don't find a mexican attractive I am racist? I can't change that part of my brain at all. But I can realize that different races are equal to me just don't have that spark that makes me wanna fuck them or be intimate with them it makes me a racist?

You've seen like 0.0000000000000000000000001% of the total amount of mexican women in the world, don't write off an entire race because you can't be arsed to fuck a mexican person. The intimacy part makes you kinda racist. I mean what is it about mexican woman that prevents you from wanting to get intimate with them...
 
Yes, I would consider this to be racist. Discounting a whole race as unattractive/undateable is just weird to me in general since people's looks vary greatly no matter what their race is.
 
If you say so. Would this make you feel better, yes it is racist. But does it effect anyone else, but the person making the statement? They themselves are limiting the their own options and making it easier for others to avoid them.

This would be true if we lived in a world where others thoughts about us don't matter, but they do. Believing this may not have any affect, but voicing it clearly does.

i've heard some people say that white girls vaginas have a different smell to them. is that racist?

It's racist if you think they must and not necessarily racist if you think it's a trend. It's stupid either way.
 
I don't get why the general reaction is 'yes'. 'Racism' seems to be a catchall these days for anything and everything that touches on the issues of cultural differences, which is unfortunate. Racism is prejudice based on belief that a race or group of people is superior or inferior to another.

If a person chooses not to date people of a specific race/gender/age/class, why does the reason have to be something involving hate or superiority?

The 'I don't see color' thing that seems so attached to the illusion of a post-racial society ignores that some people really are just tribal in the very literal sense of segregation to preserve whatever element of culture they value.

I usually stay silent on issues of race considering that its easy to get banned when an opinion is contrary. However, I don't believe that we as a country will ever truly defeat racism until we actually ACKNOWLEDGE the differences, then learn to RESPECT them.

To that end, If say, a Ghanan man choose to only date black women, why is that person vilified? Why is a White man who only wants to date blonde-haired, blue-eyed, southern belles a racist because he's not interested in a black or cuban woman?

Before, there were insane societal reasons for people disallowed to share their love with whomever. Now, we have choices. If those choices are rooted in honesty, and not hate, then why can't a person choose to exclude or include who they wish even if the reason is that I want a woman who looks like my momma, has my shared values and shared background? As a society, why have we gone to the OTHER extreme in FORCING people to admit to loving EVERYTHING because it's politically correct?

I'll be honest, I'm a black man who exclusively dated black women and married a black woman. Does that make me some antiquated social martyr? Am I wrong because I wasn't as interested in dating everyone else?

The short answer - and what I hope would cause people to do internal reflection - is NO. My wife and the people who I dated had similar reasoning and values that had NOTHING to do with feeling negatively about another group of people.

I mean, it should go without being said that I feel that there are drop dead gorgeous freaking women of EVERY ethnicity. As a guy, of course biologically I'd want them ALL. However, I chose to design preferences to foster whatever it was that I wanted to accomplish - and succeeded.

I think real racism, ie, real backwards and destructive behavior is when people exclude other groups because of those classical issues of superiority or misunderstanding of the unique beauty that we all bring.

But down the line just saying that, hey, you're racist if you don't want everyone in the same way is just....reductive and a little frightening. It once again chooses to ignore or respect the actual differences and cultural choices that one can make. Instead, it pursues this cultural homogeny that is, as we're seeing now, illusory, without first seeing the differences and respecting them as equal.

Sorry for the rant.
 
i've heard some people say that white girls vaginas have a different smell to them. is that racist?

Ha

Hahaha

Hahahahaahahahahaha

Oh, fuck me.

But down the line just saying that, hey, you're racist if you don't want everyone in the same way is just....reductive and a little frightening. It once again chooses to ignore or respect the actual differences and cultural choices that one can make. Instead, it pursues this cultural homogeny that is, as we're seeing now, illusory, without first seeing the differences and respecting them as equal.

Sorry for the rant.

Perhaps you should read the responses a little closer, because literally no-one has said this.
 
I am attracted to who I am attracted to, but just refusing to date a race, yeah that is probably racist.

Everyone has their thing, whether it be redheads, petite Asian females, or black ladies with big butts.

Nothing wrong with not being naturally attracted to a certain thing, but if you are just extinguishing people off because of skin color, or any other number of other silly things, that are simply related to color, ethnicity, or even politics, you are simply a bigot.
 
I'm surprised this topic is still open. It's really an open-and-shut question.

I remember being on a small Message Board back in the days when invisionfree was the largest message board service. Those dues insisted that so-called preferences was not racist but they would drag black women. Obvious racism was obvious
 
I'm a light skinned Indian, and I don't really care for brown skinned Indians. Does that make me racist? :O
 
If you say so. Would this make you feel better, yes it is racist. But does it effect anyone else, but the person making the statement? They themselves are limiting the their own options and making it easier for others to avoid them.

His friend asked about it, and posed the direct question to us. They might talk about it and get to the root of the problem. Some of you all might rethink some of you're bullshit for a second. Maybe find love and fortune in life. Who knows.
This dismissiveness of objective reasoning isn't a good look. The bolded is asinine and childish.

This thread got funky and gross so damned fast. All I have left are cuss words...
 
I think it depends entirely on how you voice it, people have sexual preferences for all sorts of things. Hair, height, eye colour - I don't see why skin colour couldn't be included. But to say you would NEVER date a black person, is obviously racist and just doesn't really make any logical sense
 
Some people out there remind me of this gif when it comes to dating:

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And it's pretty sad.
 
The only justification I can see is maybe if you are from a culture thats dying out in a tiny country and you want to preserve it.
Probably more so if you are a woman.
 
I don't get why the general reaction is 'yes'. 'Racism' seems to be a catchall these days for anything and everything that touches on the issues of cultural differences, which is unfortunate. Racism is prejudice based on belief that a race or group of people is superior or inferior to another.

If a person chooses not to date people of a specific race/gender/age/class, why does the reason have to be something involving hate or superiority?

The 'I don't see color' thing that seems so attached to the illusion of a post-racial society ignores that some people really are just tribal in the very literal sense of segregation to preserve whatever element of culture they value.

I usually stay silent on issues of race considering that its easy to get banned when an opinion is contrary. However, I don't believe that we as a country will ever truly defeat racism until we actually ACKNOWLEDGE the differences, then learn to RESPECT them.

To that end, If say, a Ghanan man choose to only date black women, why is that person vilified? Why is a White man who only wants to date blonde-haired, blue-eyed, southern belles a racist because he's not interested in a black or cuban woman?

Before, there were insane societal reasons for people disallowed to share their love with whomever. Now, we have choices. If those choices are rooted in honesty, and not hate, then why can't a person choose to exclude or include who they wish even if the reason is that I want a woman who looks like my momma, has my shared values and shared background? As a society, why have we gone to the OTHER extreme in FORCING people to admit to loving EVERYTHING because it's politically correct?

I'll be honest, I'm a black man who exclusively dated black women and married a black woman. Does that make me some antiquated social martyr? Am I wrong because I wasn't as interested in dating everyone else?

The short answer - and what I hope would cause people to do internal reflection - is NO. My wife and the people who I dated had similar reasoning and values that had NOTHING to do with feeling negatively about another group of people.

I mean, it should go without being said that I feel that there are drop dead gorgeous freaking women of EVERY ethnicity. As a guy, of course biologically I'd want them ALL. However, I chose to design preferences to foster whatever it was that I wanted to accomplish - and succeeded.

I think real racism, ie, real backwards and destructive behavior is when people exclude other groups because of those classical issues of superiority or misunderstanding of the unique beauty that we all bring.

But down the line just saying that, hey, you're racist if you don't want everyone in the same way is just....reductive and a little frightening. It once again chooses to ignore or respect the actual differences and cultural choices that one can make. Instead, it pursues this cultural homogeny that is, as we're seeing now, illusory, without first seeing the differences and respecting them as equal.

Sorry for the rant.

Your "rant" has been one of my most worthwhile posts in this thread. :)
 
*edit: & yes, I'm quite aware my preference is racist, but I don't really know how I would change it, and tbh right now I don't really care because, like I said, I'm married and I find my husband attractive, period.

Something being racist doesn't mean it's the end of the world. In the grand scheme of things, one person preferring traits associated with a marginalized group probably doesn't do any harm. It's both racist and not necessarily a problem. Every other example I've seen in this thread is both racist and a problem.

The only justification I can see is maybe if you are from a culture thats dying out in a tiny country and you want to preserve it.
Probably more so if you are a woman.

You don't have to bone a culture into existing. This isn't an argument.

Your "rant" has been one of my most worthwhile posts in this thread. :)

Except it's completely asocial and ahistorical.
 
Yeah?

You telling me a smoking hot black genius walks up to and you turn that down?

Pretty sure you have issues than
 
Uhh...

Now I'm reminded of that one Insecure episode...

I don’t follow?

You'd be wrong, plenty of racists have no problem having sex with a member of the race they look down upon.

I guess that’s true. My parents would rather I not date/marry a black woman. They said they want light skinned grandkids (we’re black ourselves), but I’d hesitate to call them racist. And honestly I don’t see how you could willingly sleep with someone you hate off principal.
 
There is about 560 million 'black' women on the planet, and you are telling me it's not racist to say that you categorically would not date any of them?

Ask him if he'd date Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Hillary (Fresh Prince), Christina Millian etc..if he says no to any then he's a racist.

In a general statement I mean.

Like personally, Rihanna's the only one in that list of names I find attractive. Though there's exceptions, I'm generally not attracted to black girls. It's a preference.
 
To that end, If say, a Ghanan man choose to only date black women, why is that person vilified? Why is a White man who only wants to date blonde-haired, blue-eyed, southern belles a racist because he's not interested in a black or cuban woman?

Because (as has been said multiple times in this thread) race is not biological, it's a social construct. There are no unifying features that categorize "blackness" or "whiteness" outside of stereotypes. So to say that one wouldn't date "black" women means to say that you buy into the idea that people assigned to a certain race must therefore have certain characteristics of that race, which is judging someone based on proxy instead of who they actually are, which is discriminatory, and to discriminate against someone based on the fact that they're "black" or "white" perpetuates those stereotypes that box people in.
 
I've dated girls from many different ethnic backgrounds and they've all been awesome women. And yes OP your friend is racist.
 
There's no way that you can blanket know that every single member of a race will be unattractive to you, whether physically, mentally, whatever.

I could never date [insert race] is immediately racist.
 
I don’t follow?

I'm strongly implying that you're wrong. Like, completely, utterly wrong.


Honestly I don’t see how you could willingly sleep with someone you hate off principal.

Word of the wise: Racists are fucking weird.

Also being racist isn't so black and white, where it means that you straight up hate them either.
 
I mean would he fuck a black girl? I fuck tons of girls my family wouldn't approve of racially so I can't date them outright. Personally as long as you're open to having sex with a person of another race I wouldn't call you racist.

"I'd fuck you but I'd never date you."

"Is it because of my personality? Do I come on too strong?"

"Well no, you're black, and therefore I could never picture a meaningful relationship with you, introduce you to my family, or have any desire to know you as a person."


Willingness to have sex with someone of another race does not absolve someone of racism. Countless people have committed acts of rape against women of another race because they viewed the victim as subhuman, and thus they felt no crime would then be committed. It was practically considered their right to do so. Or they would do it to explicitly traumatize and harm the victim, like any racially motivated hate crime.

You seriously need to fucking rethink your definition of racism.
 
I don't get why the general reaction is 'yes'. 'Racism' seems to be a catchall these days, for anything and everything that touches on the issues of cultural differences, which is unfortunate. Racism is prejudice based on belief that a race or group of people is superior or inferior to another.

There is admittedly the very real problem that the word Racism has greatly depreciated in value.

Actual racists have long learned how to circumvent the accusations of being called racist.
In fact, using accustory language can have an opposite effect, entrenching people in their beliefs.
And it is admittedly used far too extremely, cheapening its value when used against people with actual malicious racist attitudes.

The more subversive members of the Right have one idea right: you can't just use the same language and assume it'll stick. You have to rephrase things, use different language to get your point across. Language can be maliciously twisted, but can also be bent to better convey the truth.

We might need to surpass simply calling something racist. It no longer seems sufficient. Though I have no idea what that would be.
 
I guess that’s true. My parents would rather I not date/marry a black woman. They said they want light skinned grandkids (we’re black ourselves), but I’d hesitate to call them racist. And honestly I don’t see how you could willingly sleep with someone you hate off principal.

Racism isn't just about hate, it's also about tiers. Say someone runs a company, and he has no problems at all with hiring black people, but makes it clear that a black person would never make partner at the firm. Is that racist? It clearly is. But he doesn't hate black people, he just doesn't think they are worthy to be more than just employees at his company. He doesn't see them as equals.

Recognizing stuff like this is so much more important than trying to make racism a thing where it is one extreme or the other. The majority of racism that plagues society isn't KKK/Nazi dudes killing and beating minorities. It is the average person who isn't even aware of how their bias plays into decision making and thinking it is fine.
 
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