I was watching a Halo 1 speed run movie and when it got to 'The Library', I couldn't help but remember how utterly shitty a level that was. And this is coming from a Halo fanboy. The level consisted of little more than the same room multiplied by a dozen times with a ton of spawning Flood sprinkled in. The entire level appears as though it consisted of about a meg of textures. Yeah, there are a few spots in Halo where the interior portions become repetitive, but this takes the case. Dare I say one of the best FPS out there contains one of the worst levels, or are there other contenders for the throne?
Is 'The Library' (Halo 1) The Worst FPS Level Ever?
- Thread starter tedtropy
- Start date
Good lord, think about what you're saying...
The WORST FPS level ever? No, it's not even close. There are some TRULY terrible FPS titles that have been released over the years. I mean, REALLLLLLY bad games that offer virtually no entertainment at all. How could you possibly suggest that something like the Library is actually the single worst FPS level of all time?
The WORST FPS level ever? No, it's not even close. There are some TRULY terrible FPS titles that have been released over the years. I mean, REALLLLLLY bad games that offer virtually no entertainment at all. How could you possibly suggest that something like the Library is actually the single worst FPS level of all time?
ArcadeStickMonk
Member
Technically 2002 is more accurate, but you get what I'm saying.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
The Flood sections were where I stopped playing both games.
i watched my friend play through the library on the PC (i cant play fps games anymore) and i didnt see what was so bad about it?
very repetative, yes, but it seemed like a nice action sequence (albeit taken too far perhaps) after all the other stuff. there were literally tons of flood to blast through, and the grenade, rifle mechanics seemed very fun to utilize in different ways in every room.
very repetative, yes, but it seemed like a nice action sequence (albeit taken too far perhaps) after all the other stuff. there were literally tons of flood to blast through, and the grenade, rifle mechanics seemed very fun to utilize in different ways in every room.
Alright, the original question was a little extreme, but compared to the rest of Halo as a whole I found The Library to be incredibly dull and repetitive. The entire map takes place inside a dark, drab homogenous area that consists of little more than you following Guilty Spark around while truckloads of the Flood were dumped in your lap. Whee. Compared to the previous excitement provided by the open spaces and vehicles of the outdoor areas, it was a definite down point in the game and one they thankfully didn't replicate in the sequel.
I've been playing PC FPS game since probably the mid 90's, so I've seen my fair share of stinkers in that arena. I guess none of them popped to mind quite as quickly. Daikitana actually had a few decent maps, it's just the rest of the game (so-called team AI, enemies, etc) that was a festering turd.
I've been playing PC FPS game since probably the mid 90's, so I've seen my fair share of stinkers in that arena. I guess none of them popped to mind quite as quickly. Daikitana actually had a few decent maps, it's just the rest of the game (so-called team AI, enemies, etc) that was a festering turd.
The Faceless Master
Member
i disliked the library so much that i started to like trying to play thru as fast as possible.. mainly by shotgun running and gunning, and jumping across ldges etc past many sequences...
Art design isn't going to win any awards, but the point of that level was obvious: non stop action. Weapons everywhere. Flood everywhere. Gotta beat ass to survive. There are going to be those that don't like that, but there are going to be a lot of others that will IMO. There are actually a lot of areas in there where you can easilly run by if you get tired of shooting, and just wait until the game locks you in certain areas to fight. More fun for me to kill everything though, especially in coop.
Usually people that hate that level tend to hate the flood overall, which is probably why I never agree. The flood gave me the most intense moments in that game because they were the only enemies that really chased you down. Turned the levels where you faced them to be really twitch and reflex heavy, which I love in games.
Usually people that hate that level tend to hate the flood overall, which is probably why I never agree. The flood gave me the most intense moments in that game because they were the only enemies that really chased you down. Turned the levels where you faced them to be really twitch and reflex heavy, which I love in games.
PhatSaqs said:
Hah, YES! I can't believe I forgot about that level. Half Life goes from the most incredible FPS experience I had at the time to an ending level that resembles a crappy 3D Mario level. I can respect that Valve was trying to make the end memorable, but bleck. Although the alien with what appeared to be a large nutsack was amusing...
It's Xen, not Zen. And the latter parts of Xen (first few areas are quite nice actually) definately beat out The Library in suck factor. The Library is quite a step down from the rest of Halo, but I still enjoyed it. I have never finished the Xen finale without godmode and/or noclip though, and I consider HL my #1 FPS 
Sander said:It's Xen, not Zen. And the latter parts of Xen (first few areas are quite nice actually) definately beat out The Library in suck factor. The Library is quite a step down from the rest of Halo, but I still enjoyed it. I have never finished the Xen finale without godmode and/or noclip though, and I consider HL my #1 FPS
I hear that from alot of people, even those that loved the game. I had to cheat myself to finish off that final boss. Then I went back to Xen and proceeded to spawn grunts everywhere to see what they'd do. It's pretty entertaining - they give the baddies hell.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I like "The Library" level as it was a great adrenaline-ride, just like the old good days of DOOM II.
Meier said:
Hmm, can't say I have any beef with the later levels, and the last level was incredibly fun, although frustrating at times. Still, such frustration is a byproduct of the necessary challenge. What would Metroid Prime 1/2 be without hair-tearing frustration (hold the snide remarks
...tahrikmili
Member
GhaleonEB said:
IAWTP
And I hope "IAWTP" hasn't become a ban offense yet..
Drinky Crow
Banned
Love the Library. Pure adrenalin-fueled run-and-gun -- it's Smash TV the FPS. In co-op, it's even better.
Worst FPS Level? The entire game of Strife.
Worst FPS Level? The entire game of Strife.
Drinky Crow
Banned
How can you hate SPACE ZOMBIES?
BlackSalad
Member
The cave level in Turok 2. ACK
Drinky Crow
Banned
Ooh, I forgot about Turok 2. It's tied with Strife for shitty labyrinthine level design. Hate the Library all you want; at least it resembles ARCHITECTURE.
This guy knows what's up:
http://www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=173573#173573
http://www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=173573#173573
WasabiKing
Member
Marathon, a great FPS Bungie created years ago on the Mac and PC, had this one horrible level that had you running around looking for oxygen stations while killing aliens. Pain in the ass, and still in my book as the worst ever.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Meier said:
Agreed
jorge13130
Banned
In fact, lots of Halo levels suck, and then you have to repeat them
God damn, some of you have no FPS experience whatsoever if you're gonna call any level in Halo close to the worst level in FPS history. There are whole games that never reach a fraction of the fun in the Library. Many other posters have named off a bunch. Here's yet another.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,2475/
Painful to play.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,2475/
Painful to play.
the_zombie_luke
Member
Panajev2001a said:
It's an insult to compare the Library to any of Doom's levels. :lol