Is the Magical Negro genre heading for a resurgance?

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Smellycat

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That was trailer #1??? What is the point of another trailer? That was basically the whole movie

Edit: Just read the actual summary of the movie. WTF
 

darklin0

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"...Mr. Church dies of an enlarged heart."

That's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up.
This fucking movie.
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AxelFoley

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Am I being blind in not really seeing it in the Mr. Church trailer? I mean, if anything, it seems like it's the other way around. It's like Mr. Church is the upscale one with apparently the ability and means to completely take care of himself, and a struggling family at one point, who is then given light in his life by an unwed and kind of flaky seeming pregnant white girl.

The other one, though...damn.

A black man who could've done been anything he wanted to in life (says so in the trailer) decides to drop everything and take care if this white girl he doesn't know and her little daughter, teaching them about life along the way.

That doesn't scream "Magical Negro" to you?
 

Shouta

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A black man who could've done been anything he wanted to in life (says so in the trailer) decides to drop everything and take care if this white girl he doesn't know and her little daughter, teaching them about life along the way.

That doesn't scream "Magical Negro" to you?

I wonder what the circumstances are. It's apparently based on someone very dear to the author. From what she wrote, the situation was basically the same.
 
"Two years later a pregnant Charlie shows up on Mr. Church's doorstep and asks to live with him. He accepts as long as she keeps out of his business. Charlie notices how Mr. Church comes home drunk and has matches from a place called Jelly's. A drunk Mr. Church finds her snooping, they argue, and he tries to throw her out for breaking his rules. She leaves and runs into her old friend Larsen (Christian Madsen) at the park depressed. A kid on a bike hits Charlie and runs over her stomach causing her to bleed. Larson, who is banned from operating a vehicle due to a previous accident, nevertheless drives her to the hospital just in time. Charlie gives birth to a baby girl named Izzy (Mckenna Grace). Mr. Church comes to the hospital and takes Charlie back with him, and she and Izzy live with Mr. Church. Charlie gets a job as a waitress.

Five years later, Mr. Church becomes sick. Charlie takes him to the doctor, but Mr. Church dies of an enlarged heart. Charlie finds Owen again, and they get back together. Charlie meets the owner of Jelly's and finds out that Mr. Church played the piano there. The film ends with Charlie writing the story of her life with Mr. Church and calls it Cook."

That's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up.

Lmao how is this a real movie. Holy shit.
 
Damn, can't seem to find a good video of the Key and Peele magical negro sketch.
Five years later, Mr. Church becomes sick. Charlie takes him to the doctor, but Mr. Church dies of an enlarged heart. Charlie finds Owen again, and they get back together. Charlie meets the owner of Jelly's and finds out that Mr. Church played the piano there. The film ends with Charlie writing the story of her life with Mr. Church and calls it Cook."

That's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up.
He literally dies of having a "big heart".
 

AxelFoley

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"Two years later a pregnant Charlie shows up on Mr. Church's doorstep and asks to live with him. He accepts as long as she keeps out of his business. Charlie notices how Mr. Church comes home drunk and has matches from a place called Jelly's. A drunk Mr. Church finds her snooping, they argue, and he tries to throw her out for breaking his rules. She leaves and runs into her old friend Larsen (Christian Madsen) at the park depressed. A kid on a bike hits Charlie and runs over her stomach causing her to bleed. Larson, who is banned from operating a vehicle due to a previous accident, nevertheless drives her to the hospital just in time. Charlie gives birth to a baby girl named Izzy (Mckenna Grace). Mr. Church comes to the hospital and takes Charlie back with him, and she and Izzy live with Mr. Church. Charlie gets a job as a waitress.

Five years later, Mr. Church becomes sick. Charlie takes him to the doctor, but Mr. Church dies of an enlarged heart. Charlie finds Owen again, and they get back together. Charlie meets the owner of Jelly's and finds out that Mr. Church played the piano there. The film ends with Charlie writing the story of her life with Mr. Church and calls it Cook."

That's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up.

Damn, it's even worse than I thought.
 
Spoiler

She goes to college which he paid for, then gets pregnant and becomes homeless. He lets her live with him, then she goes through his shit and he gets mad. She learns he is something beyond cooking, then he dies. Then she gets rich telling the story

Oh shit, well, I stand corrected. But I really don't think the trailer is that blatant about it, though.
 
Damn that Mr. Church plot summary.

I guess it is true these movies never did go away. We all just moved on to super hero movies... or if I may be so blunt...
Light skinned brother comes in and sweeps the lady off her feet, saving her from family troubles and romance... wait was this a boondocks reference or am I crazy
those seemed to be way more common the last 10 or so years.

I mean thats basically every Tyler Perry movie.
 
A black man who could've done been anything he wanted to in life (says so in the trailer) decides to drop everything and take care if this white girl he doesn't know and her little daughter, teaching them about life along the way.

That doesn't scream "Magical Negro" to you?

Saying it that way, sure, but as I said, the trailer really doesn't sell it that way to me. At least not the second half, where it seems she comes back to his life and gives him some type of light in his life, like a reverse magical negro effect over the typical trope. Seeing the plot spelling out, yeah, but I was obviously only referencing the trailer there.
 
I never even get it like, how come in real life,black people "need to figure their shit out" and yet in pop culture every middle aged or old black person may as well be fucking Gandalf to these fucked in the head white people?
 
Saying it that way, sure, but as I said, the trailer really doesn't sell it that way to me. At least not the second half, where it seems she comes back to his life and gives him some type of light in his life, like a reverse magical negro effect over the typical trope. Seeing the plot spelling out, yeah, but I was obviously only referencing the trailer there.

Yeah "some type of light" is a nice way to put it

Spoiler

She goes to college which he paid for, then gets pregnant and becomes homeless. He lets her live with him, then she goes through his shit and he gets mad. She learns he is something beyond cooking, then he dies. Then she gets rich telling the story
 
I never even get it like, how come in real life,black people "need to figure their shit out" and yet in pop culture every middle aged or old black person may as well be fucking Gandalf to these fucked in the head white people?

There seems to be a lot of white people who think black people get to age 35 and just blink out of existence, like every negative stereotype about black people is aimed at young black people, so when they put an older black person on screen he must be Gandalf the Black, to have cheated death.

This is also why we fear God Emperor Obama
 

AxelFoley

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Saying it that way, sure, but as I said, the trailer really doesn't sell it that way to me. At least not the second half, where it seems she comes back to his life and gives him some type of light in his life, like a reverse magical negro effect over the typical trope. Seeing the plot spelling out, yeah, but I was obviously only referencing the trailer there.

It'd be hilarious if Hollywood started churning out Reverse Magic Negro movies. What would we call them? Magic Caucasian sounds too obvious.
 
It's so bad man. I hate that trope do much. The man let's you in to his home, rent free, and takes care of you no questions, he gives you one damn rule, respect my privacy.

And you can't even respect the dude? Naaaah fuck that. I don't care if it's based on a real story. That's fucked. You respect the man putting the roof over your head and food into you and your unborn child.
 

AxelFoley

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There seems to be a lot of white people who think black people get to age 35 and just blink out of existence, like every negative stereotype about black people is aimed at young black people, so when they put an older black person on screen he must be Gandalf the Black, to have cheated death.

This is also why we fear God Emperor Obama

Real talk.

If I ever start up a band, I'ma call it Gandalf the Black.

Or God Emperor Obama.
 

double jump

you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
Heard a recent podcast withe Eddie Murphy. Dude is extremely positive about everything and basically said he's just cashing checks at this point.

Sucks we probably won't get another classic out of him.
 

Morrigan Stark

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Ugh these trailers are so fucking cringe. Especially the second one. Sappy horseshit.

The second trailer has this comment:
"I love how this movie is triggering the gaffots over at NeoGAF. Miserable little fucks."

I'd say whoever's miserable is a banned moron who's still reading posts from so-called "miserable little fucks". What a sad life one must lead. -)
 

Principate

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Waaait judging by the women's blog and the story in the film either this guy and story isn't based on but is strangely extremely similar to her own life or she made up a bunch of shit for this story. According to her blog he died of diabetes shortly after a phone call to her, not specially of an "enlarged heart".

I'm not sure if the embellishment of the story makes it better of worse.

edit:actually it seems the englarged heart could have been one of the other conditions he suffered from, that just makes it worse it seems like are this really did happen, poor guy.
 
Man, I lost it when she said that she dreamed of a poor wise man who changes the city.

I need the assistance of one of the most magical caucasians I know to convey my emotions regarding these two trailers:

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Ahasverus

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Renee looking good.

But yeah, the trope has been played out already. How about magical Croatian or some shit, black people are not eating that up.
 
Mr. Church is definitely the magical negro trope. He comes in and helps the white family like a good negro.

Same Kind Of Different me is the white savior trope which white people seem to love.

This.

I actually think the white savior trope is much more offensive than the magical negro, not to say the magical negro trope isn't problematic either.

Everything is a trope if you look hard enough.

You acknowledge some tropes are more negative than others, right? That the prevalence of a certain trope can also be problematic, right? Also that these films aren't created and viewed in a vacuum, but are made for mainstream consumption with actual context to them, right?
 

Amalthea

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There seems to be a lot of white people who think black people get to age 35 and just blink out of existence, like every negative stereotype about black people is aimed at young black people, so when they put an older black person on screen he must be Gandalf the Black, to have cheated death.

This is also why we fear God Emperor Obama
The whole thing about bettering yourselves and figuring it out is just a scheme by the whites so that black peoples hearts explode before they hit 40. Everybody who keeps living with such a big heart is being seen as a magical being.
 

Skele7on

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SAME KIND OF DIFFERENT AS ME:

White family in trouble as dad is a hard working city guy with no humanity time for family.
Meets homeless man, teaches him about what life is really about family...
Racist grand parents talking about some slavery hand outs nonsense to ensue and to give it that ohh heritage, that racism is taught not in DNA.
Black guy has issues half way through, probably faces eviction or something like his hut needs to be knocked down by corprate pricks.....
Family back him up/Let him stay at him, that's when the true healing of that family begins
Black guy get's shit together turns out he's some sort of prophet wordsmith, big speech in a church shows whole community.....
everyone claps and white family is now happy, they thank the dude for fixing the family, showing them error of their ways.....
black guy probably dies or moves away onto the next family in need like mary poppins.

3/5 stars. 70% metacritic

THE END

Quote me.
 
I love that everyone is using spoiler tags for the plots of these racist dogshit films.


What none of the onlookers know is that, in Terra Haute, Indiana, the most incompetent white man ever is about to stumble into the biggest challenge of all time. Somehow, this white guy has to win every gold medal at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics on his own, through the power of believing in himself, or millions of people are going to die.

It's Terre Haute, you monster.
 
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