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[Mibu no ookami]

Stop, lol.

They increased the price pretty much every region except the US just earlier this year.

PS5 price to rise in Europe, Australia and New Zealand

Disc Drive for PS5 price will also be reduced in these regions.

blog.playstation.com

Let's follow this to it's conclusion then...

If Sony raised prices in every region except the US, that should mean that the PS5 and XSX are the same price in those regions right?

 

[adamsapple]

Let's follow this to it's conclusion then...

If Sony raised prices in every region except the US, that should mean that the PS5 and XSX are the same price in those regions right?

Dude, I'm not here to play your mental gymnastics. You were wrong about the price increase point, that's all.

 

[CLW]

No EVERYTHING is Xbox

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Dude, I'm not here to play your mental gymnastics. You were wrong about the price increase point, that's all.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

Yes and no.

Yes, people have 'defaulted' to using the Xbox controller for PC gaming*. As a result of a steep decline in console sales, their controller has weirdly become the bright spot for their hardware business. It's the default controller for PC gaming, and through smart TV's having Game Pass/some gaming app, it's fast becoming the default for cloud gaming. I'm guessing this is part of the reason why they release seventy nine new controllers every two weeks.

The no part is, unless something changes, Microsoft are still committed to one more Xbox console generation. Even though it's clear that Xbox is transitioning into a platform and not a specific piece of hardware, there will still be (for now) one more fancy Xbox console. The fat lady is humming, but she hasn't sung yet.

*It's a massive missed opportunity for PlayStation. Billions of dollars (over time) just sitting on the table. It's part of the reason why their push into PC gaming is seen as a half-assed effort by PC gamers. If the DualSense -- the best controller ever made, by far -- can't 'DualSense' on PC without being plugged in or using some questionable third-party app, then it's just not going to gain traction on PC. I would genuinely love to know the thinking behind their lack of investment in this area.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I think the 8 bitdo ultimate is a better controller now but Xbox was the best.

I just cant jive with PS controllers they always cramp my hands or have weird bits that dig into your hands for me. The dualsense is almost perfect but still has bits that dig in on the wings and gets uncomfortable after long sessions, for me.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

.. is this the future of Xbox? A controller?

Shot this gift car in FH5 on a PS5 with DualSense an hour ago.

So not even a controller. But I really do think that MS will be way better off as a large 3rd party publisher.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Yes and no.

Yes, people have 'defaulted' to using the Xbox controller for PC gaming*. As a result of a steep decline in console sales, their controller has weirdly become the bright spot for their hardware business. It's the default controller for PC gaming, and through smart TV's having Game Pass/some gaming app, it's fast becoming the default for cloud gaming. I'm guessing this is part of the reason why they release seventy nine new controllers every two weeks.

The no part is, unless something changes, Microsoft are still committed to one more Xbox console generation. Even though it's clear that Xbox is transitioning into a platform and not a specific piece of hardware, there will still be (for now) one more fancy Xbox console. The fat lady is humming, but she hasn't sung yet.

*It's a massive missed opportunity for PlayStation. Billions of dollars (over time) just sitting on the table. It's part of the reason why their push into PC gaming is seen as a half-assed effort by PC gamers. If the DualSense -- the best controller ever made, by far -- can't 'DualSense' on PC without being plugged in or using some questionable third-party app, then it's just not going to gain traction on PC. I would genuinely love to know the thinking behind their lack of investment in this area.

To answer your question, it's because it's not that simple. Everything requires engineering, which requires budgeting, and that's before getting involved in the politics of it.

At the end of the day PlayStation is Sony's #1 priority. That's bringing in way more money than they'll ever get being a gamepad seller on PC. It's no surprise that they don't want to go that far to encourage people to jump to PC over PlayStation, but they have made investments in the PS accessories app on PC.

It's worth keeping in mind that all of this takes time and resources and those resources are finite. Is the bigger priority PC support or working on advancements for Dual Sense 2, which are going to be needed to push PS6 more than ever.

Even if Dual Sense worked 1:1 on PC, the Dual Sense is still more expensive than the Xbox gamepads, so you have to consider that as well. What's by far the best selling gamepad on Amazon right now? The Dual Sense, because of the price cuts. It's no surprise that Sony is still selling Dual Shock 4s, which I'm sure they're selling primarily for PC audiences at this point. If they thought it was worth it, they'd cut the price on these.

 

[Alan Wake]

A Game Pass app and a controller.

 

[Kvally]

Let's follow this to it's conclusion then...

If Sony raised prices in every region except the US, that should mean that the PS5 and XSX are the same price in those regions right?

 

[Kvally]

I play only on the couch though so have all my hardware connected to a big screen TV where i spend my time like this:

- 85% Steam PC (9800X3D + 5080)
- 14% Switch (for Nintendo exclusives, soon replaced by Switch 2)
- 1% PS5 (exclusives only, but Sony barely release any good these days, except Astro)

Here is the thing. I ALWAYS play with an Xbox Series Elite Controller on PC. Even in mouse and keyboard games I just use Steam input to map to Xbox Controller (paddles are great here). I have spent countless hours in Total War: Warhammer 3 this way for example.

Basically is spend 85% of my gaming time on and Xbox Controller (in Steam..)
I am actually using all my old Xbox Series controllers even - many games really just feel like high powered Xbox titles, like Doom Dark Ages for example.

.. is this the future of Xbox? A controller? I am fine with this future and hope they continue to make great controllers (that done break as easily...)

- 90% Xbox Series X
- 10% PS5 Pro
- 0% PC
- 0% Nintendo

^my current use

Is PS, PC and Nintendo still around?.....

 

[SpokkX]

- 90% Xbox Series X
- 10% PS5 Pro
- 0% PC
- 0% Nintendo

^my current use

Is PS, PC and Nintendo still around?.....

Xbox is just 30% if what a PC is today.. so you are using a PC - only cut and slowed down

 

[Kvally]

Xbox is just 30% if what a PC is today.. so you are using a PC - only cut and slowed down

 

[Syphon Filter]

imagine playing warhammer with a controller lol.

 

[Topher]

imagine playing warhammer with a controller lol.

I play Space Marine 2 with a controller every time