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Islamic authority issues fatwa forbidding travel to Mars: too similar to suicide
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dripdripsplash
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Lol dat logic.
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Vilix
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Someone needs to take all the Starbucks to Mars. You could be a pioneer!! :O
hey, it isn't that bad here in winter
Shining Sunshine
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It's probably more suicidal cross a street with the drivers these days.
Sapphire Dreams
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Funny this is, Haj used to be a very risky act , and it is one of the five pillars.
Not being a suicide bomber, that is 100% safe
How convenient.
Messofanego
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Is this the same authority that didn't want women to drive because it did something when they were sitting...?
Random_Guy
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As a Muslim, I just wanted to let people know that just because some council in UAE issued a fatwa, this doesn't mean it represents Islam's stance on an issue. A fatwa is an opinion of the scholar and not necessarily a religious-legally binding law. Also, 99% of the worlds Muslims wouldn't know/care about this fatwa if it wasn't being given attention by the media.
Actually during golden period of Islam governments supported scientific researches.
EDIT i see no problem with prohibiting one-way trip. It is indirect suicide, no matter how you frame it. If there were a possibility of returning, it wouldn't be.
Not really. Face Earth, or horizon approximately where Earth rises or something like that.
EDIT actually, i think there exists directions for any Muslim who'd go to space, and they boiled down to "face Earth, use your home's timezone for time"
http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/09/mecca_in_orbit
Not really. Face Earth, or horizon approximately where Earth rises or something like that.
EDIT actually, i think there exists directions for any Muslim who'd go to space, and they boiled down to "face Earth, use your home's timezone for time"
http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/09/mecca_in_orbit
Sapphire Dreams
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Come to think about it, if you are far enough,you'd be actually praying towards the stars instead of Mecca because of the curvature of the earth.
Commander Jameson
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First ever example of Marslamophobia?
The Albatross
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Seems pretty reasonable.
CURVEBALL.
What if astronaut is Salman Rushdie?
CURVEBALL.
What if astronaut is Salman Rushdie?
Messofanego
Banned
Keith David as a muslim, so badass.
Yeah, far enough is actually really short distance. At average-eye level, horizon is 4.7 km away.
Neuromancer
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Bilbo Manhattan?
Good question. Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.
Just pray generically in the direction of the sun since you're on a more distant orbit it's pretty right.
I see no way to frame it in which it is suicide, indirect or otherwise. It makes absolutely no sense.
So they don't want people to go to Mars unless they have a way to go back? At some point I can understand the reasoning, but then again it should be up to the individual. Not that it seems that they (The person in question) say it's forbidden, they are just saying what it means in a religious context.
He is underestimating future muslim countries and their technical capabilities.
It never was. From a certain point on, you always miss Mecca. Its a rule which isn't based on reality.
It never was. From a certain point on, you always miss Mecca. Its a rule which isn't based on reality.
eudaemonic
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I'm sure it'll be okay to go though if you plan on going after the infidels.
Sapphire Dreams
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Like I said in the OP, if I wanted to go to Mars, I won't need anyone's consent but myself.
CadetMahoney
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A Mars a Day Helps You Work Rest And Pray!
Got to address it before it becomes an issue, right?
Oh and this subject made me think of a song I used to listen to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYS4YxqmxEA
Oh and this subject made me think of a song I used to listen to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYS4YxqmxEA
Rajack
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Its still possible to terraform Mars, we would just have to generate an artificial magnetic field to protect the planet's atmosphere.
Probing Uranus is illegal in all Muslim Countries.
The whole logic is that you'd go there, get stranded, and die. If it was a two way trip then they probably wouldn't take issue, and if they did it'd be entirely absent as an issue if it's proven to be safe.
NullPointer
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You've just won double your allotment of daily geek points.
Solid Samus
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moderately risky?
iirc but one of the only plans close to reaching fruition that involves actually placing human beings on Mars also involves leaving them there for the rest of their lives. That's not 'moderate risk'. That's literally signing the entire rest of your life away to live in a small controlled habitat on a big mean rock. Which is incredible and legendary but also understandably a grey area when it comes to religion. And also comparing Mount Everest to being sent to Mars is like comparing tiny tiny little mountain shaped apples to by far the most risky venture in the whole of human history
Gemüsepizza
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But is he wrong? The current plans for Mars travel and colonization are highly dubious and extremely dangerous. The people behind this don't have scientific progress in mind, they only care about publicity. I think we should rely on unmanned space exploration (robots, space probes etc.) for now until we have mastered space travel. To me this whole Mars One project is a big joke. In my opinion, everyone who is willing to sign up for this "mission" is insane, which would therefore disqualify him for any space mission. We need highly trained professionals for this, not adventurous gamblers who don't want to live on Earth anymore.
What? ME2 was fucking awesome man, so if you haven't played it you are missing out. Easily one of the GOAT games next to the original, ME3 is like 85-90% good but that ending just kills everything else.
God Dayumm
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Their loss. Meanwhile the Catholic Church will beat them by sending missionaries. So much for the intergalactic crusades
It has to be a Catholic planet so the Space Moors can invade.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Well, that put a damper on everyone's vacation plans.
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What if it is to write the Koran there in case the Earth explodes one day and aliens visit Mars?
RustyNails
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He is just ill-informed. He thinks the journey to Mars is too dangerous. And since Islam prohibits suicide, you cannot travel to Mars. Guy is not a scientist and shouldn't be talking about stuff like this. Fatwas are also not legally binding. They are just legal reasoning by Muftis. You can follow them or disregard them.
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