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Islamic authority issues fatwa forbidding travel to Mars: too similar to suicide

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What's the punishment for breaking the fatwa? Death?

Time to bring some Wikipedia into this thread:


In a religious context, the word "fatwa" carries more meaning. This is because when a Muslim has a question that they need to be answered from an Islamic point of view, they ask an Islamic scholar this question, and the answer is known as a "fatwa". This "fatwa" carries more weight than just the random opinion of any person on the street. Muslim scholars are expected to give their "fatwa" based on religious evidence, not based on their personal opinions. Therefore, their "fatwa" is sometimes regarded as a religious ruling. Here is an example of a fatwa: Muslims are expected to pray five times every day at specific times during the day. A person who is going to be on a 12 hour flight may not be able to perform their prayers on time. So they might ask a Muslim scholar for a "fatwa" on what is the appropriate thing to do, or they might look up the answer in a book or on the internet. The scholar might advise them to perform the prayer to the best of their ability on the plane, or to delay their prayer until they land, for example. And they would support their opinion with evidence. The fatwa is not a legally binding and final, it is a respected interpretation of the sharia given by a mufti on a particular case. If the individual doesn't like the fatwa given, he/she can seek out another Mufti or Qadi for a second opinion which might have the desired outcome.

It is interesting to note that in Islam, there are four sources from which Muslim scholars extract religious law or rulings, and upon which they base their "fatwa". The first is the Quran, which is the holy book of Islam, and which Muslims believe is the direct and literal word of God, revealed to Prophet Mohammad. The second source is the Sunnah, which incorporates anything that the Prophet Mohammad said, did or approved of. The third source is the consensus of the scholars, meaning that if the scholars of a previous generation have all agreed on a certain issue, then this consensus is regarded as representing Islam. Finally, if no evidence is found regarding a specific question from the three first sources, then an Islamic scholar performs what is known as "ijtihad". This means that they use their own logic and reasoning to come up with the best answer according to the best of their ability. Muslims believe that any given action that they perform in their lives falls into one of five categories:

Obligatory
Commendable
Permissible
Despised
Not Permitted

All actions fall into the "permissible" category, unless there is evidence from one of the four sources previously mentioned (Quran, Sunnah, Consensus, Ijtihad) that proves otherwise. Here are some examples:

1) The five daily prayers are obligatory upon Muslims. Those who do not perform them are committing a sin, and they will be accountable for that on the day of judgment.

2) Performing additional voluntary prayers is commendable. Those who perform them will be rewarded, but those who do not are not committing a sin.

3) Driving a car is permissible, meaning that the action of driving is not good or bad in itself. There is no sin or reward attached to it. Most things fall under this category.

4) Divorce is a despised action. Although there is no sin associated with it, it must only be considered as a last resort when all other means of solving the problems between the spouses have been exhausted.

5) Drinking alcoholic drinks is not permitted. Those who do so are committing a sin, and will be held accountable for it on the day of judgment.

When someone asks a Muslim scholar about performing a specific action, the reply will be a "fatwa" explaining which of these five categories this action would fall under. So if you ask a Muslim scholar to give a fatwa about adultery, they would tell you that it is "Not Permitted". If you ask about fasting in Ramadan, they would answer that it is "Obligatory". Muslims are usually encouraged to ask for reasoning and evidence behind any fatwa, and should avoid blindly following the opinions of Muslim scholars without understanding the reasons behind them. This is because Muslims should always feel that they are practicing Islam to gain the pleasure of God, and not to gain the pleasure of acceptance of any human being. It is also interesting to note that different scholars frequently have different opinions regarding any given question. This is why there is usually more than one "fatwa" regarding any one question. In fact, there are a number of methodologies for how to understand evidence gathered from the previously mentioned sources of Islamic law. Scholars who follow different methodologies will frequently arrive at different answers to the same question. It is well known that in Islam there are four "schools of thought", and each of them differ with respect to certain aspects. However, it is important to know that these differences are usually about minor issues. For example, in terms of beliefs, the vast majority of Muslims agree on most aspects of belief, most importantly the concept of monotheism, and belief in the angels, Prophets, holy books and the day of judgment.



In nations where Islamic law is the basis of civil law, but has not been codified, as is the case of some Arab countries in the Middle East, fatwā by the national religious leadership are debated prior to being issued. In theory, such fatwā should rarely be contradictory. If two fatwā are potentially contradictory, the ruling bodies (combined civil and religious law) would attempt to define a compromise interpretation that will eliminate the resulting ambiguity. In these cases, the national theocracies expect fatwā to be settled law.

In the majority of Arab countries, however, Islamic law has been codified in each country according to its own rules, and is interpreted by the judicial system according to the national jurisprudence. Fatwā have no direct place in the system, except to clarify very unusual or subtle points of law for experts (not covered by the provisions of modern civil law), or to give moral authority to a given interpretation of a rule.


In nations where Islamic law is not the basis of law (as is the case in various Asian and African countries), different mujtahids can issue contradictory fatwā. In such cases, Muslims would typically honour the fatwā deriving from the leadership of their religious tradition. For example, Sunni Muslims would favor a Sunni fatwā whereas Shiites would follow a Shi'a one.

There exists no international Islamic authority to settle fiqh issues today, in a legislative sense. The closest such organism is the Islamic Fiqh Academy, (a member of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC)), which has 57 member states. But it can only render fatwā that are not binding on anyone.
 
FFS . . . yeah, I guess since they've solved all those other problems in their region they really should be looking into the Islamic view on travel to mars. *eyeroll*
 
Wait, genuine question, if suicide is illegal in Islam what do extremists who swear by Islam laws use suicide bombers?

This is an example of people making their own fatwa's without proper knowledge. Admittedly, you will find scholars who ill say it is permissible but they are a tiny (but vocal) minority. The vast, overwhelming majority of scholars have spoken against it. But they don't make for good news so you never hear them.
 
This is an example of people making their own fatwa's without proper knowledge. Admittedly, you will find scholars who ill say it is permissible but they are a tiny (but vocal) minority. The vast, overwhelming majority of scholars have spoken against it. But they don't make for good news so you never hear them.

Thanks for clearing it up.
 
Well speaking of logic . . . isn't trying to face toward Mecca idolatry anyway? Doesn't seem consistent.

Muslims pray towards the Kaa'ba which is in Mecca. It is a point of unity that wherever the Muslims are in the world, they face towards it to pray. The Kaa'ba in itself has no benefit or harm and is not worshiped.
 

Ashes

Banned
Well speaking of logic . . . isn't trying to face toward Mecca idolatry anyway? Doesn't seem consistent.

Muslims are worshipping a direction? Mecca is merely for directing the act of submission.

To think of the stone as a god, or an idol, is tantamount to shirk - one of the worst sins.

It's one of the more fascinating things about human behavior for me. Close to a billion people praying to a god around the world facing theoretically the same way.
 

F#A#Oo

Banned
We sent people to moon on technology that was equivalent of a TI-83 calculator. Since then, we created more powerful yet cheaper materials for rockets, spacesuits and rocket fuel. Why would it cost way too much and be a risk.

The lack of NASA funding?
 

Mondy

Banned
They're probably more concerned about finding evidence of life, which would completely invalidate all religions.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Well, what are the chances of dying when you leave your village or house?

This mission has a 100% chance for its participants to not ever going back, you know.

I'm not talking about every day living. What I'm talking about is for a people that established an empire stretching from Spain to the Hindu-Kush in a manner of two centuries; for a lot of them it was a huge risk going on these campaigns. Yet these same religious leaders romanticise that early period of conquest and exploration.
 

KanyeEast

Banned
As a muslim i laugh at this shit. hahaahahahha. Driving expensive cars at 300km per/hour is suidice. I want a fatwa against that too.
 
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