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Isn’t it amazing how Game of Thrones completely undid its cultural relevance?

TheMan

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The show was such a staggering success. Everyone was watching it and talking about it and loving it. It was everywhere. And then the final season came out and all people could talk about was how badly they fucked it up and then poof- gone. I guess there’s a spin-off coming but there seems to be no hype around it
 

DKehoe

Gold Member
The trailer for the new show got millions of views in a day and a shit load of coverage.

There's nearly daily articles speculating when the next book might come out. Those wouldn't be happening if people had stopped caring. There's still interest there.
 

VN1X

Banned
The trailer for the new show got millions of views in a day and a shit load of coverage.

There's nearly daily articles speculating when the next book might come out. Those wouldn't be happening if people had stopped caring. There's still interest there.
Trailer? New Show?

Nani?
 

Wildebeest

Member
The problem with the last series was not that people were sick of the setting, but that it didn't scratch the itch. They treated it like a victory lap where they could just satisfy people with some fan service, some major plot developments dropped in at random, and their own weirdo social elite philosophy which nobody could relate to.
 
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ManaByte

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And then the final season came out and all people could talk about was how badly they fucked it up and then poof- gone.

You can blame retards for getting "Mother of Dragons" tattoos and naming their kids Khaleesi before finding out that their "YAAAS QUEEN" would go all homicidal at the end of the story.
 

Coolwhhip

Neophyte
I still don't understand why HBO and George R. R. Martin allowed David Benioff and D. B. Weiss to completely BUTCHER the series in the final season.

But you're right it's amazing. It could have been a classic, but now no one wants to be reminded about GoT.
 
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It's actually sad how fast the show faded from people's minds. When the show was on I actually looked forward to Monday's. Most of the people in my office watched it so we would get together in an office and discuss the show for hours. Monday's was not a productive day. Even my boss used to join us, discussing what happened and future theories.

None of us liked how the show ended so we all shrugged our arms and since that day no one has ever talked about Game of Thrones. I don't even think about the show anymore and I could care less about House of the Dragon. What a weird roller-coaster of emotions.
 

Putonahappyface

Gold Member
Season eight ruined Game of Thrones for me personally. All those seasons spent delving in to each character only for the last season to kill off bult up characters in the most predictable way. I would've loved to have bought the Game of Thrones 4khdr boxset but no chance now.

I'm cautiously optimistic about House Of The Dragon, but I'm in no rush to see it.
 

Doom85

Member
You can blame retards for getting "Mother of Dragons" tattoos and naming their kids Khaleesi before finding out that their "YAAAS QUEEN" would go all homicidal at the end of the story.

Hey, hey, I have a framed print of her and her dragons because it looked dope as fuck and the con artist (as in an artist at a convention, LOL) was so god-tier his drawings might as well have been photos, my friends and I watched him work on a Catwoman drawing, dude had amazing talent. And no, I didn’t regret when later the final season aired, I still liked the character in the prior seasons for the most part. Like, if I got a Darth Vader poster in the 90’s, I wouldn’t hate it and throw it away just because in 1999 I bore witness to a stupid 9 year old managing to fit into a fighter seat designed for an adult and proceed to throw out stupid lines during a space battle which he basically wins all by himself by accident. Remember the good times, forget the bad.
 

manfestival

Member
Honestly the show took a downhill turn at the end of season 6. Season 7 was meh but serviceable. The final season was just a rush job that dropped the ball everywhere.
 

Star-Lord

Member
Can only speak for myself, but I don't know anyone who enjoyed the last season or is excited for the prequel.
I couldn’t stand the final season. It took everything good about the series, and shit all over it. The same thing happened with LOST, which I’ve recently watched for the first time. It’s amazing how bad long-running shows get as time goes on.

House of the Dragon looks like it could be a somewhat decent spin-off. I’ll give it a go purely because of Matt Smith.
 

jufonuk

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You can blame retards for getting "Mother of Dragons" tattoos and naming their kids Khaleesi before finding out that their "YAAAS QUEEN" would go all homicidal at the end of the story.
Like that wasn’t telegraphed all show. Her normal reaction was to burn people. Or kill them. I like how she struggled to fight the madness the. In the end it consumed her.

The one thing that was stupid was varis how he was calm/secretive all show and kept his motivations close to his chest and then last minute got his ass fried. Openly told people his plans.
 

Coolwhhip

Neophyte
I couldn’t stand the final season. It took everything good about the series, and shit all over it. The same thing happened with LOST, which I’ve recently watched for the first time. It’s amazing how bad long-running shows get as time goes on.

House of the Dragon looks like it could be a somewhat decent spin-off. I’ll give it a go purely because of Matt Smith.

It's like someone writing a really good book with an open end. And then the books starts to sell well so they add 5 more chapters and think of an ending in a hurry.
 
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Doom85

Member
It's actually sad how fast the show faded from people's minds. When the show was on I actually looked forward to Monday's. Most of the people in my office watched it so we would get together in an office and discuss the show for hours. Monday's was not a productive day. Even my boss used to join us, discussing what happened and future theories.

None of us liked how the show ended so we all shrugged our arms and since that day no one has ever talked about Game of Thrones. I don't even think about the show anymore and I could care less about House of the Dragon. What a weird roller-coaster of emotions.

Seasons 1-3: Holy shit, this show rocks!
Seasons 4-5: Hmm, still really good, but definitely a dip in quality.
Seasons 6-7: Well, it’s decent enough, but just watch, I bet they’re saving their A-game for the final season!
Season 8:

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I can’t speak for everyone, but I assumed they would step up the quality for the final season. Nope, took their money and ran. Honestly hope this makes people cautious about hiring the show runners as it came out later they weren’t exactly the best people to work for as they treated Emilia Clarke poorly in Season 1 and Jason Momoa had to step in to help her out, and in response HBO hired employees specifically to make sure directors weren’t mistreating their cast and crew.
 

TrueLegend

Member
I can't believe people still blame only the final season. The show was more into spectacle than actual good writing and even many of the book stuff were bad.
 

Star-Lord

Member
It's like someone writing a really good book with an open end. And then the books starts to sell well so they add 5 more chapters and think of an ending in a hurry.
GRRM gave the brothers free reign over how the show ended, because they were complaining that he was taking too long to finish WoW. If I were GRRM, I would’ve told them to pipe up or fuck off.
 

Doom85

Member
Like that wasn’t telegraphed all show. Her normal reaction was to burn people. Or kill them. I like how she struggled to fight the madness the. In the end it consumed her.

The one thing that was stupid was varis how he was calm/secretive all show and kept his motivations close to his chest and then last minute got his ass fried. Openly told people his plans.

It wasn’t telegraphed, Christ she locked her dragons up after the death of ONE child in a past season, yet people not liking her instantly makes her murder thousands of kids? Yeah, not buying it, especially since this is the same season that also 180’d Jaime’s development and I pity the soul who tries to defend THAT.

The writers even chalked up stupid moments to “um, the character forgot about this” and lazy shit like that, they flat out said this shit in interviews. This was not her planned character arc, they just didn’t give a shit.

And the family blood argument is the worse. Why would I get invested in characters if I know 100% where they’ll end up just because of their birth last name? Saying she was damned to end up that way is just lazy writing not to mention kinda fucked up to imply someone will always be defined by their predecessors no matter what they do.
 
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Deleted member 1159

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“This existential threat we’ve been teasing out for 7 years? Let’s just wrap that up in one episode and make Cersei the big bad. Oh and Dany turns into a monster in about five minutes.”

Yeah, they fucked it up. And The Long Night episode and the seasons leading up to it was pretty amazing until they just made it stop, then “how quickly can we wrap this shit up?” kicked in and…yeah. So disappointing.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Nothing last forever, especially all those prolonged shows that last 8-10 season, 20+ episodes each, if anything, people feel relief that it's FINALLY over and they can move on. It wouldn't matter if GoT ended with a bang, people would instantly forget about it anyway few days later and move onto the next big thing, that's how it's always been, and always will be, because what there to talk about when the show's over? Now seems like Squid Game is on everyone's mouth, but just ask them what they were watching just before it, last month, nobody will be able to tell you, nobody remembers, because at the end of the day it's just pointless, irrelevant filling the passing time, it's coll while it lasts, but the moment it's over you have to find something new to fill that time, and the cycle continues.
 

spawn

Member
The final season sucked because the writers on the show were actually not good writers. They didn't have Martin's books to go off of for good storytelling anymore so they tried their best and it sucked. I will watch House of the dragon though because I like fantasy so I'm hoping it turns out well
 
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Deleted member 1159

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Nothing last forever, especially all those prolonged shows that last 8-10 season, 20+ episodes each, if anything, people feel relief that it's FINALLY over and they can move on. It wouldn't matter if GoT ended with a bang, people would instantly forget about it anyway few days later and move onto the next big thing, that's how it's always been, and always will be, because what there to talk about when the show's over? Now seems like Squid Game is on everyone's mouth, but just ask them what they were watching just before it, last month, nobody will be able to tell you, nobody remembers, because at the end of the day it's just pointless, irrelevant filling the passing time, it's coll while it lasts, but the moment it's over you have to find something new to fill that time, and the cycle continues.
Nah, I’ve rewatched Breaking Bad like 3 times because it stayed good the entire time. GoT got so bad at the end I’ve essentially lost all desire to watch again and kinda don’t care about the books which will never be finished anymore
 
Hey, hey, I have a framed print of her and her dragons because it looked dope as fuck and the con artist (as in an artist at a convention, LOL) was so god-tier his drawings might as well have been photos, my friends and I watched him work on a Catwoman drawing, dude had amazing talent. And no, I didn’t regret when later the final season aired, I still liked the character in the prior seasons for the most part. Like, if I got a Darth Vader poster in the 90’s, I wouldn’t hate it and throw it away just because in 1999 I bore witness to a stupid 9 year old managing to fit into a fighter seat designed for an adult and proceed to throw out stupid lines during a space battle which he basically wins all by himself by accident. Remember the good times, forget the bad.
Pretty much this.

If the prequels didn't kill my love of Star Wars... then one shitty ending episode isn't gonna kill my enjoyment of GoT.
 

Gp1

Member
After seeing who is penning the Targaryen series and the last two seasons of GOT, I wouldn't be surprised if this show became something like "Progressive feminist Rhasta latino Targaryen vs True blooded pale silver platinum blond Targaryen.
 
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MadAnon

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The cracks started to appear earlier. Season 7 was already cringe with the whole "your favorite boys club heading beyond the wall on adventure" - like your average Hollywood crap (Avengers, F&F etc.)

In the end it was just too many loose ends left untied to wrap it up in quality fashion. At least not in 6 episodes.

Doesn't help their own hype backfired. "Battle of Winterfell will rival the Battle of Helm's Deep". Fucking LOL.

 
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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Year 1: Winter is coming
Year 2: Winter is coming
Year 3: Winter is coming
Year 4: Winter is coming
Year 5: Winter is coming
Year 6: Winter is coming
Year 7: Holy shit guys, winter is coming and it's nearly here!
Year 8: Well that was a rough night. Good thing Aria showed up.
This path was taken for so many plot points and characters.
Littlefinger, Varis, the dragons, the slave towns, the fleet etc. Then you had the opposite, characters that just appear out of the blue in the final couple of seasons and have huge impacts especially Euron.
 

GymWolf

Member
It was already on a decline since season 5.

for me it's like dexter, only the first 4 seasons exist (although got was a less severe decline)
 
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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
The show got shit because they ran out of book material.

The new show is going to have the same problems as the later seasons of Game of Thrones. It's based on Fire and Blood, but that's a fake history book that covers hundreds of years and not a focused novel.

I like that it's more diverse than GoT, but I can only see them butchering the Dance of Dragons story line. I'm not very optimistic at all.
 

Ballthyrm

Member
Let it be a lesson for all TV executives everywhere that you don't want to start an adaptation when the books aren't finished.

The show was as good as the book were long.
I never understood people who said that they were doing a good job after they went off book.
The drop in quality was immediately noticeable.

I haven't seen many TV screenwriters capable of doing something with their character that pay off 3 seasons later.
The last one I can remember was Mr Robot. So go watch that instead.
 
Year 1: Winter is coming
Year 2: Winter is coming
Year 3: Winter is coming
Year 4: Winter is coming
Year 5: Winter is coming
Year 6: Winter is coming
Year 7: Holy shit guys, winter is coming and it's nearly here!
Year 8: Well that was a rough night. Good thing Aria showed up.
fucken a
 

FunkMiller

Member
I just finished watching LOST, so I completely disagree with this post. It’s bad, but not LOST bad.

Ooh… it is though. It really is. The hideous sudden character changes, the rushed set pieces, the complete destruction of the huge multipart narrative in order to hurry to a completion so they could go off and make Star Wars….

Lost is absolutely fucking terrible, but GoT fell so much further.
 
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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It was already on a decline since season 5.

for me it's like dexter, only the first 4 seasons exist (although got was a less severe decline)
I wish it were that simple, with a show like Dexter you can just stop at the end of a season and be done. The end of GoT sucked because it failed to payoff the complex set-up of the earlier seasons. It wasn't bad in of itself, although it had it's bad moments, but because it failed to resolve any of the plots in a satisfactory manner.
 

Star-Lord

Member
Ooh… it is though. It really is. The hideous sudden character changes, the rushed set pieces, the complete destruction of the huge multipart narrative in order to hurry to a completion so they could go off and make Star Wars….

Lost is absolutely fucking terrible, but GoT fell so much further.
I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I had a feeling all along GoT was going to end badly after it became clear Martin was not going to finish the book in time and he handed creative control to those brothers. Lost, though, it literally pulled a Dallas on us. All that time spent watching and for what? They were all fucking dead all along.
 
I rewatched the entire show before the last season and really enjoyed it. Then that last season hit and I just don't care. The last season retrospectively made me not care anymore because the pay off isn't worth it.

It's as bad as Lost's terrible ending and kills all future rewatching that might have happened.
 
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gioGAF

Member
One of the greatest disappointments of all time for me. I don't want to be reminded of it, I think many others feel the same way. That is why it has disappeared from the main stream.

Someone told me the following:
GoT is like a lavish feast that serves you a turd for dessert as the final course. Once you leave, you only remember the turd. You want to forget the whole thing.
 
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Lunarorbit

Member
Yeah totally lost its thread. This new series is just trying to capture lightning in a bottle. I was a huge fan of the show and the books but I don't care about this at all.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
For me personally, Elden Ring will be George R. R. Martin’s legacy, not Game of Thrones. It went from talking to random strangers in the elevator about the last episode to forgetting about the show completely. I think they butchered the last season.
 

Termite

Member
It is quite amazing, isn't it.

It also fell victim to one of my biggest annoyances with storytelling - people who know how to build up a huge narrative but have no idea how to wind it down. A massive story is like a jetliner - you want to get interest up as fast as possible but sticking the landing requires descending and putting away plot threads WAY before you might think you need to.

GoT was still growing the world and plot threads in season 7. In reality, they needed to be wrapping certain things up and clearing the board by the end of season 6. Also, they had led people to believe that the real threat was the white walkers, so it was very important that that be the last story dealt with. Instead, the white walkers felt like unfulfilled build up and the ending an anticlimax after the world-threating force was already defeated.

People who defending GoT by saying "Well, it's alright, there was never any way they could have dealt with everything in one final season" don't understand that that was their fault, and their problem. But it's much easier to keep people watching by creating new mysteries than it is by starting to solve them, which is never as satisfying as the theories in a fan's head or online.

Probably what GRRM is struggling with right now - how to start winding down about 100 different little narratives in a satisfying way. (Also, from the very first book it's clear that Dany has a strong chance of being the big bad or "final boss". Everything about her is a detached, entitled warlord who burns those she deems immoral.)
 
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hemo memo

You can't die before your death
The trailer for the new show got millions of views in a day and a shit load of coverage.

There's nearly daily articles speculating when the next book might come out. Those wouldn't be happening if people had stopped caring. There's still interest there.
Thanks to this post I now know a trailer was out.

Regarding the final season, most likely because of how badly they ruined it, people want to believe it never existed and I don't blame them.
 
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