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[dkeane]

Maybe it's a tablet like device? Who knows, the wait is fun.

 

[jaundicejuice]

No matter what the revolutionary feature is for Nintendo's next system, I think it'll be a disappointment. I say this because the mystery surrounding the hardware/controller/whatever the hell is supposed to be amazingly revolutionary about the system is building to epic proportions.

I've been reading all of these insane pipe dreams that people are cooking up for themselves, and if it doesn't live up to these expectations, no matter how unrealistic many of them seem to be, whatever is supposed to be amazing is gonna be a disappointment no matter what it is.

The hype and mystery surrounding the Revolution intially looked like a double edged sword to me, but now it's morphing into the sword of Damocles. Just waiting to drop.

 

[KINGMOKU]

I hate Nintendo. Commence personal attacks....

Fixed.

 

[Barnimal]

Posted by Barnimal


I agree 100%. Nintendo are retarded. They are just plain stupid. What is their problem?

OK they think there is more to the next gen of gaming then just hardware. GREAT, so they want to create a new kind of controler or gaming style, so where in the book does it say that if you want to create something new gameplay wise, that you have to skimp on graphics hardware? I doubt that the new controller or what ever they come up with is going to cost that much to make, unless the controller has a built in 25" screen.

Maybe if Nintendo wasn't as cheep as my 85 year old grandfather we could get something out of them that would actually make us happy.

And yes to be honest Mario sunshine, Luigis mansion were let downs. I am sick of Nintendo trying to appeal to us by cramming some crappy new shot in the dark game play querk. Just give me the simple, fun, addictive gameplay, developed to perfection, and we will be happy.

And on Metroid Prime, is was a good game, but it was not Metroid. It is just a first person action/shooter game. The only thing that makes is Metroid is that they put some Metroid music themes and dashed it with some old enemies and weapons. It has never been a FPS and it never will be. GREAT GAME, BUT NOT METROID.

God is Nintendo ever terrified of creating a game without using one of it's established game characters.

If they are going to create a game that is so unlike one of their classics (metroid prime) then just create a new univers and character. And if you want to make a real sequel, then do it the way it should be, and don't fix what ain't broke. I am not against sequels, but if the "sequel" is going to be SO unlike the first one then it is really not a sequel then is it, they are just taping on the name.

*applause*

 

[bitwise]

Fixed.

he said he didn't like metroid prime.. which is quite common really.. why does that automatically mean he hates nintendo?

ninfans get over yourselves

 

[Barnimal]

Maybe it's a tablet like device? Who knows, the wait is fun.

the wait IS NOT fun. they are playing a stupid game of "lets leave our fans in the dark while sony and ms eat away at the little fanbase we have left"

 

[tedtropy]

Since this thread has turned into a reasonably interesting conversation about Prime, I figure this is as good a place as any to put this.

I too was greatly annoyed by the controls at first, add to that fact that I had been playing Halo for a while at that point and considered that game amazing. Well, this didn't help Prime's cause to say the least. However, I perservered, and continued to play through the game and began to quite enjoy it... until the Phazon Mines. I bought Metroid Prime the day it came out and still have not finished it because of that damn boring-ass area. I just simply can't muster up the will to continue. In the past couple of years, I have thrown the game back on a few times, and made my way a bit into the Phazon Mines but I can only play so much before I just feel like playing something else. The game just can't seem to keep my interest for some reason. It seemed really great up to that point too, I dunno if I'll ever be able to finish it...

The Phazon Mines was no walk in the park, but I guess I wasn't as frustrated by it as some. Now the damn Omega Pirate, I about threw my controller through the screen before I finally had to resort to an FAQ (teh shame). Honestly though, I love those controller-smashing frustrating moments in the end. There's moments in Prime was I'd get pissed at the spacing of some save points, but you really felt like you earned them when you made it to one with the low health warning blaring in your ear.

 

[AniHawk]

he said he didn't like metroid prime.. which is quite common really.. why does that automatically mean he hates nintendo?

ninfans get over yourselves

Why must you Xbots always lump people together like that?

 

[tedtropy]

Why must you Xbots always lump people together like that?

I think a gang war musical is about to break out!

 

[Bluemercury]

the wait IS NOT fun. they are playing a stupid game of "lets leave our fans in the dark while sony and ms eat away at the little fanbase we have left"

what do you care anyway...i think what really pisses off pple regarding Nintendo is that they dont play the game like the other two and you all thinkk they have to. Flash news they dont........i think pple in this forum would have get by now that Nintendo isnt going to dramatically change and turn into a Sony or Ms.......just dont buy their consoles and get over with it.

 

[Drensch]

I've asked this before and have never recived an answer. Why is it that since we have never heard anything about revolution, it is therefore underpowered, the weakest, can't do this or that? It most certainly could be, but since we don't know anything about it, how is this a certainty?

 

[Barnimal]

oh i'm buying their console and i will enjoy nintendos games but how nintendo operates does nothing to help them get support of the casual gamer or 3rd parties needed to sell the hardware which would get more developers to look at the system as a viable one. its all linked. Nintendo keeps playing this game and its almost a guaranteed fact that they will be in an even worse position they are this gen.

 

[Tony HoTT]

If the Revolution is under 300 dollars, has a decent selection of cheap downloadable retro games, and has atleast one must have title like Zelda or some shit then I'm going to get it. Im not going to flaunt my PS3 needlessly to all the Nintendo fans or some shit, or juggle puppies, catch them in my mouth, shake them viciously, all in order to intimidate little toddlers.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

I love nintendo

 

[GaimeGuy]

If the Revolution is under 300 dollars, has a decent selection of cheap downloadable retro games, and has atleast one must have title like Zelda or some shit then I'm going to get it. Im not going to flaunt my PS3 needlessly to all the Nintendo fans or some shit, or juggle puppies, catch them in my mouth, shake them viciously, all in order to intimidate little toddlers.

Sounds like fun

 

[Amir0x]

I know we have every reason to believe Revolution will be less powerful than PS3 and Xbox 360, but if that's the case, I'm gonna be more than a little upset. I know at this point it's wishful thinking, but Nintendo has always been on par with the competition as far as graphics are concerned. This no HD thing is really starting to bug me too. I mean, in the US, television broadcast has a deadline of 2009 to turn completely digital. That means half way through Revolutions life cycle, a decent amount of Americans are going to have HDTV. Unless there games are true 3D and the controller caters to that, I just don't see how they can expect customers to continue to support them. I remember (don't know where I heard it) Iwata daying that Revolution would be the same price as the competition because they were going all out. I really hope this is still the case. Now the system is small and looks cool, but quite frankly, it's not worth the sacrifice. The only thing I really like about the Revolutions design is the disc drive. Does anyone actually care that the system is smaller than the others?

Ya know, I'm a long time Nintendo fan. It's part because of nostalgia, and part because Nintendo has consistently delivered the goods as a developer for years. And I wasn't even disappointed with this gens offerings from them: Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Pikmin 2, F-Zero GX, Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door and Wind Waker are all fucking phenomenal games and some have even breached my top 50 titles of all time (Pikmin 2 and F-Zero GX being the honors). I have no reason to be disappointed if they keep delivering Nintendo content that is of admirable quality.

And yet, I still can't help but feel... disenchanted by their recent decisions. I don't know what they are doing, but I just know that I'm not a casual gamer. I don't want casual gamer games. I can't imagine needing a new type of controller, so why change it? In the end, I just hope Rev is good for another Pikmin, another Mario and another Zelda. And that'll probably make me happy. But it's sad that I can't happily make Nintendo's console my central system, as third parties continue to ignore their tenants of "innovation" and "change" and as they continue to make baffling decisions that can only be interpreted as further steps into console isolation.

Drama++

I know really I'll be happy in the end. I'm just inpatient.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

I do have to admit, unless Nintendo has something truly revolutionary, their silence will do more damage than good. People have such high expectations that if they don't deliver on every point (graphics, controller, game library) they'll end up shooting themselves in the foot. The lack of info is getting rediculous though. I really hope they don't screw this up.

 

[fartblast]

it makes sense from a handleheld standpoint, nintendo makes most of their money off those things. having a powerful, portable piece of hardware with a controller that has a screen makes sense. if you go to class and are bored, just turn on your revo in your backpack and then play with the controller. think of the revolution being a hub of sorts for the wifi controllers. everyone in the area could just pick up one of those $70 controllers instead of having to buy the console itself when they can just go to wifi hotspots and play with other people off a machine if it's there. of course im just bullshitting but i think its right

 

[MadOdorMachine]

Ya know, I'm a long time Nintendo fan. It's part because of nostalgia, and part because Nintendo has consistently delivered the goods as a developer for years. And I wasn't even disappointed with this gens offerings from them: Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Pikmin 2, F-Zero GX, Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door and Wind Waker are all fucking phenomenal games and some have even breached my top 50 titles of all time (Pikmin 2 and F-Zero GX being the honors). I have no reason to be disappointed if they keep delivering Nintendo content that is of admirable quality.

And yet, I still can't help but feel... disenchanted by their recent decisions. I don't know what they are doing, but I just know that I'm not a casual gamer. I don't want casual gamer games. I can't imagine needing a new type of controller, so why change it? In the end, I just hope Rev is good for another Pikmin, another Mario and another Zelda. And that'll probably make me happy. But it's sad that I can't happily make Nintendo's console my central system, as third parties continue to ignore their tenants of "innovation" and "change" and as they continue to make baffling decisions that can only be interpreted as further steps into console isolation.

Drama++

I know really I'll be happy in the end. I'm just inpatient.

They still make good games, but I don't think they're making great games like they did in the past. I like all the games you mentioned, but they lacked the feeling Nintendo games have given me on their previous systems. The only exception I can think of is F-Zero, and that was made by SEGA. As a matter of fact, I'm more pleased w/ the third party games I have on GC than first party. I've been a fan since the NES too and I think if they don't deliver w/graphics they're gonna really end up regretting it. The controller interests me because we haven't seen a major change in gameplay for almost ten years now. I could care less about Revolution having as many games as PS3 and 360 as long as it still had all it's bases covered (racers, fps, rpg, etc.) and has kick ass graphics as well. The controller is only going to go so far if the rest of the system doesn't hold up. Here's hoping they don't screw it all to hell.

 

[jaundicejuice]

The only Gamecube games that instilled a sense of awe in me the way so many of their older titles like Super Metroid, Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past and Super mario 64 did were Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime. Second party games. I'm not saying that everything else Nintendo has published has been bad by any stretch, it's just that most lacked that intagible magic Nintendo feeling their games had for me in previous generations.

My nostalgia for many of their franchises is fading, take The Wind Waker for example, loved the visuals, but found the game to be too easy, and the sailing was about as tedious for me as the numerous loading screens in KotOR and Jade Empire.

There hasn't been a single generation where I haven't purchased a Nintendo console at launch, but this generation is another matter. A lot hinges on what's supposed to be so amazing about the Revolution comparedto the Xbox 360 and PS3. The apparent lack of third party support is quite disconcerting. I'm hoping some titles, like RE5 for example, simply haven't been announced yet cos they utilise the design tangent controller Nintendo's making in some unique way.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

It seems there is a lot of hoping going on for Revolution though, which isn't good. I was hoping a lot for GC too and the result was that I eventually bought a PS2. Almost everything surrounding Revolution now is negative. They really need to let out some info if they expect people to continue to hold an interest. They don't have to show the revolutionary aspect of it, just some specs. Even one screenshot of the new Smash Bros would be more than enough to rowl people up for a month.

 

[KINGMOKU]

I've asked this before and have never recived an answer. Why is it that since we have never heard anything about revolution, it is therefore underpowered, the weakest, can't do this or that? It most certainly could be, but since we don't know anything about it, how is this a certainty?

Becuase 90% of the people who post on videogame messege boards, are fucking retarded. It would seem all they do is suckle on the unholy teats of Sony/Microsoft's PR dipshits, and then run thru the streets(Post on messege boards) about how "gay" Nintendo is, and that they won't have blast processing.

Nobody knows what the HELL the Revolution is capable of.

The most logical deduction is to look at past history, and that would mean that the Revolution is going to be on par, or better then what's out there.

That would require puberty though, and sadly, topics involving Nintendo here, have turned into a quasi-Halo2 monkey-shit throwing fight.

You would THINK that people would be wary of Sony's "tech" demo's, and "raw number" data seeing as how underpowered the PS2 was, but nope, they just stick thier mouths directly to the anus, and slop the PR SHIT DOWN.

 

[BirdySky]

I'm excited about the Revolution. But I can't quite imagine what the revolution will be.

A part of me wishes and hopes for a new technology. Something to wow us. Something that puts innovation back into console gaming the way Blast Processing first did.
A Gryo + Touch screen on the joypad would be cool, I guess, but it certainly wouldn't be no revolution.

 

[echoshifting]

he said he didn't like metroid prime.. which is quite common really.. why does that automatically mean he hates nintendo?

ninfans get over yourselves

Okay, I'm not a ninfan but...

He hated Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine AND Metroid Prime. And he said it in such a way to suggest that they were bad games...not that he hated them...when there are tons of people out there who like at least one of those games, if not all three of them. He also did it right at the top of the thread, so that anybody that reads or skims it is likely to see his comment.

He actually got treated a lot better than he was asking for, in my opinion.

 

[monkeyrun]

Almost everything surrounding Revolution now is negative. They really need to let out some info if they expect people to continue to hold an interest. They don't have to show the revolutionary aspect of it, just some specs. Even one screenshot of the new Smash Bros would be more than enough to rowl people up for a month.

what is surrounding the revolution now !? ....

nothing, except the design of the console. you guys are just imagining stuff up for nintendo.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

You would THINK that people would be wary of Sony's "tech" demo's, and "raw number" data seeing as how underpowered the PS2 was, but nope, they just stick thier mouths directly to the anus, and slop the PR SHIT DOWN.

Why on earth would people be wary of new tech demos? It's demoing new tech. That's more than Nintendo has done. All we have to be excited about are conflicting stories from them. Sony did it right at E3 and they're getting the attention they deserve from it. Just because PS2 was less powerful than Xbox doesn't mean they're gonna sit around and let it happen again. Everything we've seen and heard so far about PS3 has shown it's not going to be the least powerful system. The only bad thing I can really say about it at this point it the way it looks, it's logo, it's controller and it's rumored price. I think it's the most next gen of all systems so far and the main reason is Blu-Ray. They can PR it all they want and I'll have no problem eating it up. I wouldn't have a problem with it if Nintendo did it either. At least then we would know where it stands.

 

[monkeyrun]

well so technically you just don't like to wait. :lol

 

[drohne]

re: revolution: you assume that microsoft and sony would want to borrow its innovations. and that, unless restrained by expenses elsewhere, nintendo would want to build a powerful console. both assumptions are, i think, false. so it can *just* be a controller.

re: metroid prime: it's filth. it's the most overrated filth since at least donkey kong country. i consider your indifference to prime 2 a vindication.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

what is surrounding the revolution now !? ....

nothing, except the design of the console. you guys are just imagining stuff up for nintendo.

I guess we're just making up all the contradictions they've said huh? Reggie said dev kits are out, Miyamoto said they're not. Iwata says Rev is gonna be more expensive than previous systems to compete w/ graphics, etc, then Kaplin says no HD. They say they want to expand the market and get more gamers, yet they say at they same time third parties might not want to develop for them. They say specs don't matter but then it's only going to be 2 to 3 times more powerful than GC. Should I go on?

 

[KINGMOKU]

Why on earth would people be wary of new tech demos? It's demoing new tech. That's more than Nintendo has done. All we have to be excited about are conflicting stories from them. Sony did it right at E3 and they're getting the attention they deserve from it. Just because PS2 was less powerful than Xbox doesn't mean they're gonna sit around and let it happen again. Everything we've seen and heard so far about PS3 has shown it's not going to be the least powerful system. The only bad thing I can really say about it at this point it the way it looks, it's logo, it's controller and it's rumored price. I think it's the most next gen of all systems so far and the main reason is Blu-Ray. They can PR it all they want and I'll have no problem eating it up. I wouldn't have a problem with it if Nintendo did it either. At least then we would know where it stands.

http://www.toiletmuseum.com/

Have at it then.

 

[Burger]

Fixed.

HOW IS THIS CATCHING ON

 

[Papi]

My reliable source (Miyamoto's daughter) tells me that Nintendo is going back to their roots, making cheap gaming cards. These cards will have instructions on them, directing the player to do things in real life. For example, a card might say:
- Steal car.
- Run over pedestrians.

And there you have a real-life GTA. This is the revolution.

 

[imastalker co.]

a revolutionary interface doesn't have to be all about the controller you know. .

:lol
that is true though.

: moon walks out of here :

 

[Ryudo]

Waaaa Waaa

Fixed.

he said he didn't like metroid prime.. which is quite common really.. why does that automatically mean he hates nintendo?

ninfans get over yourselves

Dont worry about it man, not worth the effort.

 

[radioheadrule83]

I think they might offer new small size games for download, or set up a new download distribution system. If they marry the downloads to user hardware with a lisence like system, of course there may be piracy eventually, but low costs and the difficulty of getting around it could stop a lot of people who would otherwise bother. A low cost download system would be very accessible. If the games suited the kind of memory available, which is expandable incidentally (maybe theres a reason for this?) then such a thing could take off. Even if there aren't new games, this is pretty much how I expect the retro titles (that aren't given away free) to be handled.

Then there's the controller -- as the original poster points out, controllers can usually be copied. Rev loses all advantage if this happens... maybe theres something more to it that would make it impossible on the other consoles. It'll be interesting to watch unfold. The most important thing is that it facilitates making game styles old and new a whole lot of fun.


As for my take on expectations: I don't think Nintendo fans are expecting anything... they know how much of a wildcard Nintendo's announcements can be. People will be expecting anything from initial DS ridicule to something awesome.

 

[Suburban Cowboy]

After the DS was fully realized, i vowed NEVER to doubt Nintendo again

Who would have thought id be eating my words no more than 8 months later

 

[mj1108]

Becuase 90% of the people who post on videogame messege boards, are fucking retarded. It would seem all they do is suckle on the unholy teats of Sony/Microsoft's PR dipshits, and then run thru the streets(Post on messege boards) about how "gay" Nintendo is, and that they won't have blast processing.

Nobody knows what the HELL the Revolution is capable of.

The most logical deduction is to look at past history, and that would mean that the Revolution is going to be on par, or better then what's out there.

That would require puberty though, and sadly, topics involving Nintendo here, have turned into a quasi-Halo2 monkey-shit throwing fight.

You would THINK that people would be wary of Sony's "tech" demo's, and "raw number" data seeing as how underpowered the PS2 was, but nope, they just stick thier mouths directly to the anus, and slop the PR SHIT DOWN.

 

[Ash Housewares]

No the REvolution is the controller.

plug & play?

I also hate Metroid Prime

 

[Amir0x]

Becuase 90% of the people who post on videogame messege boards, are fucking retarded. It would seem all they do is suckle on the unholy teats of Sony/Microsoft's PR dipshits, and then run thru the streets(Post on messege boards) about how "gay" Nintendo is, and that they won't have blast processing.

90%, huh. That's a pretty large number. But hey, if I didn't know any better... I'd say you made that up to be an alarmist! Also, what does Microsoft and Sony PR have to do with Nintendo PR? Or are you just saying "Some PR vs. No PR"? Because that's the whole point.

Nobody knows what the HELL the Revolution is capable of.

Nobody except some developers!

The most logical deduction is to look at past history, and that would mean that the Revolution is going to be on par, or better then what's out there.

No, actually, that's not logical. The simple fact is we DO know some things about Revolution already. This is where the speculation stems from. First, the Revolution is prohibitively small. No matter what you or I say, it's VERY difficult to imagine technology that would be cost effective in 2006 that would be comparable to PS3 or 360 at that size (supposedly, 3 DVD cases tall). That's not just random ass-speak, it's about technical limitations. Did they figure out a way to do it? It's possible. But based on corporate Nintendo philosophy (cheap, efficient hardware) many can't imagine it happening at 200 or 250. Additionally, Nintendo PR has sent out plenty of mixed messages. You had the Perrin Kaplan crap, later denied. You had that statement that games on Rev will certainly look awesome, but that it's not the focus. The lack of HD. The constant Nintendo PR drilling about how it's not about power. I can go on and on, and this is why people - including myself - speculate.

In reality, LOGIC would dictate we shouldn't speculate because the industry changes so much. We should wait for announcements. That's the only "logic" here. You have no moral highground. In fact, you're just as bad and this entire statement of yours reaks.

That would require puberty though, and sadly, topics involving Nintendo here, have turned into a quasi-Halo2 monkey-shit throwing fight.

I can't imagine why.

You would THINK that people would be wary of Sony's "tech" demo's, and "raw number" data seeing as how underpowered the PS2 was, but nope, they just stick thier mouths directly to the anus, and slop the PR SHIT DOWN.

Seriously, stop trying.

 

[Rahul]

A revolution is a relatively sudden and absolutely drastic change. This may be a change in the social or political institutions over a relatively short period of time, or a major change in its culture or economy. Some revolutions are led by the majority of the populace of a nation, others by a small band of revolutionaries. Compare rebellion.

When enough significant anomalies have accrued against a current paradigm, the scientific discipline is thrown into a state of crisis, according to Kuhn. During this crisis, new ideas, perhaps ones previously discarded, are tried. Eventually a new paradigm is formed, which gains its own new followers, and an intellectual "battle" takes place between the followers of the new paradigm and the hold-outs of the old paradigm

A disruptive technology is a new technological innovation, product, or service that eventually overturns the existing dominant technology in the market, despite the fact that the disruptive technology is both radically different than the leading technology and that it often initially performs worse than the leading technology according to existing measures of performance. A disruptive technology comes to dominate an existing market by either filling a role in a new market that the older technology could not fill (as more expensive, lower capacity but smaller-sized hard disks did for newly developed notebook computers in the 1980s) or by successively moving up-market through performance improvements until finally displacing the market incumbents (as digital photography has come to replace film photography).

Christensen distinguishes between low-end disruption which targets customers who do not need the full performance of the high end of the market and new-market disruption which targets customers who could previously not be served profitably by the incumbent.

Disruptive technologies are not disruptive to customers, and often take a long time before they are significantly disruptive to other manufacturers, so they are often difficult to recognize. Indeed, as Christensen points out and studies have shown, it is often entirely rational for incumbent companies to ignore disruptive technologies, since they compare so badly to existing approaches, and the initial markets for a disruptive technology are often very small compared to the main existing market for the technology. Even if a disruptive technology is recognized, existing businesses are often reluctant to take advantage of it, since it would involve competing with their existing (and more profitable) technological approach. Christensen recommends that existing firms watch for these technologies, invest in small firms that might produce them, and continue to push technological demands in their core market so that performance stays above what disruptive technologies can achieve.

Observations:
- We're currently in the middle of the "intellectual battle" described in the paradigm shift article
- Nintendo's strategy appears to be going backwards compared to current measures of quality (hardware power, graphics quality)
- "Disruptive technologies are not disruptive to customers [us]"
- Nintendo is pursuing both low-end disruption (short, simple games that don't need high-end graphics) and new-market disruption (Nintendogs, retro service)
- "Even if a disruptive technology is recognized, existing businesses are often reluctant to take advantage of it, since it would involve competing with their existing (and more profitable) technological approach"
- "By contrast, sustaining technology refers to the successive incremental improvements to performance that market incumbents incorporate into their existing product."

All these articles, theories and points match the current picture of the situation Nintendo is painting. So the question is, if they've matched disruptive technology theory so far, can we look at the way theory predicts them to behave and speculate or draw any conclusions from that?

Obviously not related at all to the introduction of the controller, but certainly pertinent to consider when going into the whole "nintendo sux cos they dont make games the way they used to" way of thinking.

 

[echoshifting]

Observations: I <3 Wiki.

:lol :lol :lol

Man, I can't tell if you're joking or not but that was pretty damn funny.

 

[Bluemercury]

re: metroid prime: it's filth. it's the most overrated filth since at least donkey kong country. i consider your indifference to prime 2 a vindication.

:lol

 

[Rahul]

:lol :lol :lol

Man, I can't tell if you're joking or not but that was pretty damn funny.

I guess it says something about Nintendo if you can extract their business strategy from wikipedia articles!

 

[OniShiro]

the rev controller will be something like the videogame thing in ExistenZ, only it will plug in your ass.

 

[Version 3.0]

Ford to Cease Automobile Production?

Ford issued a press release today concerning the future direction the company will be taking.

“We at Ford have always been at the forefront of the automobile industry. We have been originators and innovators in the development of the automobile itself, the control mechanisms, the manufacturing process, the increased efficiency of the engine, and the addition of all accessories and amenities.

“But we feel that automobile operation has become too complex. It is daunting to new users. Learning to drive can be intimidating, and we feel it is scaring away potential new drivers.

“So we at Ford are taking a new approach. Our 2007 models will be simplified. Although we cannot be specific for fear of other companies imitating our product, we are experimenting with smaller models made of fewer components. The main possibility is “unicycle” models with just one wheel component, or one wheel component per passenger (“bi-cycle” models). Our competitors will be offering models of greater horsepower, but we feel that that is the wrong direction. We feel that a smaller, less power-oriented, quieter model is the path we wish to pursue.

“Newer, more advanced control methods are now possible that don’t make use of complicated devices like steering wheels, levers, and pedals. The “balance” controls of new, hi-tech devices like the Segway scooter offer a preview of the technologies we are pursuing. We feel the the impossibly complex interfaces for windshield wipers, radios and air conditioning units need to go away as well. It’s possible our new models won’t offer these functions at all.

“The market of existing drivers is a large market, but the market of non-drivers is even larger. In true form with our innovative history, we are going after this market. We feel that non-drivers will embrace our new direction in record numbers, once they see the advantages our intuitive product and controls offer over the difficult-to-learn methods of our competitors.”

 

[Bluemercury]

Ford to Cease Automobile Production?

Ford issued a press release today concerning the future direction the company will be taking.

&#8220;We at Ford have always been at the forefront of the automobile industry. We have been originators and innovators in the development of the automobile itself, the control mechanisms, the manufacturing process, the increased efficiency of the engine, and the addition of all accessories and amenities.

&#8220;But we feel that automobile operation has become too complex. It is daunting to new users. Learning to drive can be intimidating, and we feel it is scaring away potential new drivers.

&#8220;So we at Ford are taking a new approach. Our 2007 models will be simplified. Although we cannot be specific for fear of other companies imitating our product, we are experimenting with smaller models made of fewer components. The main possibility is &#8220;unicycle&#8221; models with just one wheel component, or one wheel component per passenger (&#8220;bi-cycle&#8221; models). Our competitors will be offering models of greater horsepower, but we feel that that is the wrong direction. We feel that a smaller, less power-oriented, quieter model is the path we wish to pursue.

&#8220;Newer, more advanced control methods are now possible that don&#8217;t make use of complicated devices like steering wheels, levers, and pedals. The &#8220;balance&#8221; controls of new, hi-tech devices like the Segway scooter offer a preview of the technologies we are pursuing. We feel the the impossibly complex interfaces for windshield wipers, radios and air conditioning units need to go away as well. It&#8217;s possible our new models won&#8217;t offer these functions at all.

&#8220;The market of existing drivers is a large market, but the market of non-drivers is even larger. In true form with our innovative history, we are going after this market. We feel that non-drivers will embrace our new direction in record numbers, once they see the advantages our intuitive product and controls offer over the difficult-to-learn methods of our competitors.&#8221;

Is this supposed to be funny?

 

[Frank the Great]

Judging by Square's comments about Rev not being either a home console or portable...

I think it will have the option of being played on a TV or a headset. I did some research a while ago, and there are a number of visors coming out which can display normal TV images just by plugging it in. There are even ones that will come out to be used with any game consoles. Just plug it in and you don't need a TV, just use the visor. Of course, Revolution will have a rechargeable battery and the visor would connect wirelessly, meaning that you can take it anywhere and play. You can take it to your friends house and play Metroid Prime 3's multi against a friend using the visors instead of the TV if you each have a revo. Classic games will be able to be seen using the visor, which is what Iwata meant when he said giving old games "new looks." There will always be the option of course to play games on the TV (multiplayer games will be played like this, mainly,) but the visor will provide the most immersive experience because of the giant picture quality (I remember one being the equivalent of staring at a 105 inch movie screen from 12 feet away) and built in headphones.

...At least that's what I hope the Revolution will be It certainly is a new interface.

*gamegasms at the thought of Metroid Prime 3 using my idea*

 

[joystickz]

*gamegasms at the thought of Metroid Prime 3 using my idea*

yes.... virtual reality was your idea.....

 

[Frank the Great]

Don't be a dick, you know what I meant.

 

[GaimeGuy]

The only Gamecube games that instilled a sense of awe in me the way so many of their older titles like Super Metroid, Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past and Super mario 64 did were Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime. Second party games. I'm not saying that everything else Nintendo has published has been bad by any stretch, it's just that most lacked that intagible magic Nintendo feeling their games had for me in previous generations.

My nostalgia for many of their franchises is fading, take The Wind Waker for example, loved the visuals, but found the game to be too easy, and the sailing was about as tedious for me as the numerous loading screens in KotOR and Jade Empire.

There hasn't been a single generation where I haven't purchased a Nintendo console at launch, but this generation is another matter. A lot hinges on what's supposed to be so amazing about the Revolution comparedto the Xbox 360 and PS3. The apparent lack of third party support is quite disconcerting. I'm hoping some titles, like RE5 for example, simply haven't been announced yet cos they utilise the design tangent controller Nintendo's making in some unique way.

Prime is 1st party.

Nintendo actually did help out with some of the development of ED.