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[Troidal]

Well he can change his mind quickly



http://ps2.ign.com/articles/082/082962p1.html

:lol
Itagaki is such a PR person.

 

[Chiggs]

DVD can hold 2 hours of HD video too (with a proper modern codec and bitrate), so your whole argument is trash.

LMAO :lol

Funny because it's true.

 

[Cheerilee]

And DVD can probably hold about 16 hours of non-HD video with the proper bitrates and codecs and stuff. I didn't feel like getting into that stuff.

 

[nitewulf]

I'm factoring in the Rev's lack of HD.

DVD holds about 2 hours of non-HD video. Blu-ray holds about 2 hours of HD video.

Non-HD might suck, but the Rev holds a lot, the PS3 holds a lot, and the Xbox360 holds a little.

Since the Xbox360 is moving to HD, without moving to an HD storage medium, they're going to have to deal with having less space for FMV and textures than a PS3, Revolution, or even an Xbox game.

very clever observation. you are quite correct. ratio-wise xbox 360 will lose out. non HD CG will suck as well, on an HDTV so devs are tied at both ends.

 

[Pimpbaa]

I think the 360 having a harddrive could make up for the lack of space on 360 discs. Developers could compress data on the disc much like pc games, and then load that data to the harddrive when the game first loads. It really depends on how much games are allowed to install to the harddrive (it's gotta be more than the xbox1).

 

[Calidor]

I think the 360 having a harddrive could make up for the lack of space on 360 discs. Developers could compress data on the disc much like pc games, and then load that data to the harddrive when the game first loads. It really depends on how much games are allowed to install to the harddrive (it's gotta be more than the xbox1).

Yeah, i bet that spending 2 min watching your TV every time you insert a new game, while the xbox is streaming files to the HDD is very fun :lol

 

[sangreal]

WMV-HD exists for a reason

 

[Pimpbaa]

Yeah, i bet that spending 2 min watching your TV every time you insert a new game, while the xbox is streaming files to the HDD is very fun :lol

It could be like current xbox games. The last 3 you played are cached to the harddrive. If they did it right, shouldn't take any longer than what happens with xbox games.

 

[C- Warrior]

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Wait for DOA5

Sorry I'l pass :lol

 

[Yusaku]

i was about to post this

the pre-rendered movie comment is interesting. i hope this means the end of cgs though, i mean shouldn't next gen provide enough power to get rid of them?

CG isn't likely to go away completley ever. With real-time you need to have everything in RAM. Imagine if you wanted to do several cuts between totally different scenes. You'd need all of the scenes used to be completely in RAM, or hope you can stream everything in time for the cut. Whereas with CG it's not an issue.

I remember Mark of Kri actually used their in-game engine for cinematics, but played them as movies so they could do cuts. It sucked though, because they used horrible compression. Idealy you'd want to have great high-def cinematics so it can match your in-game stuff seamlessly.

EDIT: It would be funny if X360 saw a return to PS1 form, with dozens of multi-disc games.

 

[Kleegamefan]

WMV-HD exists for a reason

Yeah, to be used in a next generation optical disk like Blu-ray or HD-DVD....only there WMV-HD will be called VC1

You have to at least admit there is *some* contridiction in MS's message here....

We are entering the "HD-era" according to them.......and they are right....as long as you omit digital video outputs and 405nm optical formats, not to mention advanced audio codecs or even HD movies outright....


Also, don't hold your breath expecting movie studios to embrace widespread HD movie releases in a device that only has unencrypted analog video outs(X360)....that is just not going to happen on a wide basis like it will with the Blu-laser formats....

 

[Bebpo]

Ummm...why did he say they were "knocked out" when they found out the storage space/drive format for X360?

IT'S THE SAME AS XBOX...WTF!?

 

[Yusaku]

Ummm...why did he say they were "knocked out" when they found out the storage space/drive format for X360?

IT'S THE SAME AS XBOX...WTF!?

What's your point? Storage demands are going to be much higher next gen.

 

[Operations]

Ummm...why did he say they were "knocked out" when they found out the storage space/drive format for X360?

IT'S THE SAME AS XBOX...WTF!?

I guess they were expecting a HD optical medium, Blue-Ray or HD-DVD. Microsoft either kept them in the dark about the specs for too long, or maybe MS took the decision at the last minute, with many HD DOA assets already developed.

 

[Bebpo]

What's your point? Storage demands are going to be much higher next gen.

My point is that I thought he meant it in a positive way as the article is very pro-X360. I thought he was saying "omg we were blown away at the awesome-ness of MS's new storage format" which didn't make any sense since it's the same as this gen.

 

[sangreal]

Yeah, to be used in a next generation optical disk like Blu-ray or HD-DVD....only there WMV-HD will be called VC1

You have to at least admit there is *some* contridiction in MS's message here....

We are entering the "HD-era" according to them.......and they are right....as long as you omit digital video outputs and 405nm optical formats, not to mention advanced audio codecs or even HD movies outright....


Also, don't hold your breath expecting movie studios to embrace widespread HD movie releases in a device that only has unencrypted analog video outs(X360)....that is just not going to happen on a wide basis like it will with the Blu-laser formats....

Sorry, I was too vague in my comment. I meant that WMV-HD can certainly be used for HD game FMVs. I agree with you on Microsoft's poorly thought out "hd-era" campaign and I have no delusions of the xbox ever being a premier system for HD movie content.

 

[Kleegamefan]

Oh....I misinterpreted you.....sorry about that


Yeah, WMV9 will be more than enough to give killer FMV on X360....no worries there...

Perhaps MS hasn't provided developers like Team Ninja with the WMV-HD API.....that is probably why they can't see how FMV will fit on DVD9s??? :/

 

[Redbeard]

Hmmm...

Oh, and the Toshiba folks also spilled the beans on HD-DVD and the Xbox 360, saying that the next-gen console will use the new format for its media and whining about how Microsoft is dragging their feet on the official announcement.

For what it’s worth, Microsoft officials told me that the week before E3 and reconfirmed it when I called them back days later.

 

[Argyle]

Hmmm...

If that's true (and it would be neat if it were), they should probably start telling developers so that they can, you know, take advantage of the extra space.