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[M1chl]

HOLY SHIT BAD FORUM, can someone move this to the off-topic. PLEASE!

So, whilst preparing some PSA in here, about relation of Ethanol, Mental Health issue (and Relatioship issue) which lead to severe Physical health issue, where I have basically just hours to live (luckily someone died, so I could be rescued by transplant). So anyway my question is simply, can you cry?

I've heard that basically Testosterone prevents you from crying. Which drops in quatintity after you become dad, etc. Which I have experienced yet (or maybe I did, but without me knowing, since it's not like I am going to hold my lust back).

Anyway I struggled a lot, going way back half of my life or even further. And since I hit like 15 years old of age, I haven't cried on my own since. I can only cry with one person, which is my ex and simutanously my new GF. I don't blame her, transplantation of foreign organ, fucks you up mentally. It's unspeakable how much is everything different and you have this feeling of unknown, that you are not "you" and that only link to your past present and future, is that one and only. I did some dumbass shit, which I not proud off, but to my defense One user in here knows more our megastar, knows more about that. But I am still not comfortable enough to go with that to public, I don't have problem with good folks in here, but lurkers, that's too much for me.

I don't know about you, but when something happen, I don't have any sort of emotions, it's just this terrorising pain, pressure inside my head, when you cannot breathe, think or anything like that. It's extremely uncomfortable. I hate it. Maybe I am emotionally retarded, that I cannot exhibit all the emotions know to human, but based on what I read about testosterone, it kind of make sense.

So what is your experience with emotionally challenging situations, how you deal with them?

And I am sorry that my thread about transplantiation of liver takes too much time, I feel comfortable with adding other stuff in here, because people in here are really normal and it feels like tight community with diversity of opinion, without condescending attitude, which can be exhibit "somewhereeeee else". I want my story to be in Neogaf version. You can already read about it on ResetEra and on Reddit, but I want prepare to something more cohesive. And no I am not doing, because I am proud or something like that, but in those two instances, people reach out to me privately and many of them wrote me that I help them or at least I give them some perspective, etc. So I feel, like it's my duty, wherever I people are great to chime in with my story, just because, you never know, you might help someone. Etc. Well, it's probably too long thread for simple question. But I want to give you kontext why I feel stuck at the moment and how I feel about writing something which may become that "PSA: Don't drink too much"

 

[Riven326]

I was the only one who didn't cry or freak out when my grandmother was diagnosed with lung cancer. Thankfully it was a false positive.

I felt bad for her and for everyone. But I tend to be calm and rational in stressful situations. It's probably why I can't get on with people on the left. They cry at the drop of a hat.

 

[Airola]

But I tend to be calm and rational in stressful situations.

But what if the rational and the most logical action is to cry with others

 

[M1chl]

I was the only one who didn't cry or freak out when my grandmother was diagnosed with lung cancer. Thankfully it was a false positive.

I felt bad for her and for everyone. But I tend to be calm and rational in stressful situations. It's probably why I can't get on with people on the left. They cry at the drop of a hat.

I am not necessarily badass, I am definitely not calm or rational. It feels like it shut down a lot of "social" features of my human being and that's pretty bad "feeling" it's much more like an anxiety feeling, but turned up to 11. I hate that and since crying is a relief of this type of shitty chemicals in your brain, I would benefited from it, but NOPE. It's not like I want to cry often, it's just in few tough life situation, when this bothers me. And simply memories while writing this, get me. So this thread, etc...

 

[Riven326]

But what if the rational and the most logical action is to cry with others

It's not rational or logical. It's an emotional response. I don't view it as a negative action if it's rare, like the death if a family member or best friend. But if people cannot control their emotions, it becomes chronic and therefore detrimental to that person, their family, friends, and eventually, the whole of society.

I am not necessarily badass, I am definitely not calm or rational. It feels like it shut down a lot of "social" features of my human being and that's pretty bad "feeling" it's much more like an anxiety feeling, but turned up to 11. I hate that and since crying is a relief of this type of shitty chemicals in your brain, I would benefited from it, but NOPE. It's not like I want to cry often, it's just in few tough life situation, when this bothers me. And simply memories while writing this, get me. So this thread, etc...

I understand. I used to look at old pictures and be very sad, missing the old days. I eventually realized that the past was fixed and ultimately offered me nothing but heartache. The future... That offers a blank canvas of endless possibilities.

Self improvement is key. Picture who you want to be and work towards that goal. That's all it is. The rest if it will fall into place. You will be stronger for yourself and those around you. It will be appreciated when you face hardship and tragedy. You can help others because you will not fall apart at the drop of a hat.

 

[M1chl]

In dire need for some mod in here, I posted it in wrong forum/thread. I wrote to one, who is here quite often, but still waiting. Not sure why I even was in Politics discussion. See? This type of non-crying shit is responsible for me being unfocused.

 

[Airola]

It's not rational or logical. It's an emotional response. I don't view it as a negative action if it's rare, like the death if a family member or best friend. But if people cannot control their emotions, it becomes chronic and therefore detrimental to that person, their family, friends, and eventually, the whole of society.

I see crying quite like I see running away or fighting back as a reaction in a dangerous situation. Some people don't get the impulse to run or fight and that's bad for them. If you feel like crying, you can do it or not do it (if you have the skill to hold it back enough). It's good to cry along with others in certain situations. It's sometimes good to cry when you are alone too, to clean up your mind.

Not being able to cry is more of a disability than something a rational person is capable of doing. A rational person would understand when to cry and when avoid crying, but being or not being able to cry has nothing to do with rationality. Emotions are there for a reason. You fear for a reason, you feel brave for a reason, you feel sad for a reason, you feel happy for a reason. Our capability to have certain distinct actions as reactions to those emotions are all good for their purposes. That said, obviously if someone can't handle those reactions, be it crying in a situation they shouldn't, having aggressive reaction in a situation they shouldn't or laughing in a situation they shouldn't, it's a problem. Those actions in themselves are not problematic in the slightest, and all of those reactions can be used very rationally and in some situations all of them can be the most logical possible reactions.

We have to remember that over-rationalizing things can also be a big problem.

 

[Airola]

OP, maybe you could talk to a psychologist about this.
It's not healthy if you really feel you would get relief from being able to shed some tears but you can't do it.

Maybe a mixture of psychologist and a neurologist might help. It could be both a phychological and a neurological problem at the same time.

 

[Ailynn]

I've heard that basically Testosterone prevents you from crying.

Oh, this can definitely be true! At least it was for me, anyway.

I cried very easily before puberty (which for me didn't start until I was 12 years old- I had some physical issues blocking testosterone which required surgery at age 11). I remember people telling me things like "Boys don't cry"...which I hated hearing. It was just another reason on top of the growing list of why I hated having been born a boy.

After that surgery, and in addition to the intense gender dysphoria I would start having as puberty set in...I found it much more difficult to cry, even when it felt like I needed to in order to feel better.

Twenty-five years later, I finally got the courage to transition (or rather, I felt I had to either transition or finally end my life.) Early into hormone replacement therapy, I slowly finally started feeling normal again. I could finally easily cry when I really needed to in order to feel better.


"Having a good cry" is definitely a real thing...and I always felt sorry for men that it seems harder for them to do so.

 

[12Goblins]

I'm definitely a sociopath that never cries, feels horrible

only time I cry in last 10 years is watching this ;_;

 

[Riven326]

We have to remember that over-rationalizing things can also be a big problem.

A sane person can rationalize genocide in 5 minutues. Or the disposing of people infected with plague to save others. It can be good or bad. But not having the ability to rationalize is exactly why the left today is in such a dire state. It is also why they are the ones who destroy societies with their arms wide open.

 

[Airola]

A sane person can rationalize genocide in 5 minutues. Or the disposing of people infected with plague to save others. It can be good or bad. But not having the ability to rationalize is exactly why the left today is in such a dire state. It is also why they are the ones who destroy societies with their arms wide open.

Nah, they rationalize a lot but they rationalize like an insane person would rationalize.
Besides, sadness isn't the emotion that has taken them over. It's the angriness. Haven't you noticed how they are more often fuming from anger than crying when they are confronted by people with different opinions than them.

 

[Tajaz2426]

My PTSD causes me to cry, no big deal as it is an emotional response to things. I deal with it by putting one foot in front of the other and try to live as normal as I can in-between my nightmares, flashbacks, etc.

 

[M1chl]

Oh, this can definitely be true! At least it was for me, anyway.

I cried very easily before puberty (which for me didn't start until I was 12 years old- I had some physical issues blocking testosterone which required surgery at age 11). I remember people telling me things like "Boys don't cry"...which I hated hearing. It was just another reason on top of the growing list of why I hated having been born a boy.

After that surgery, and in addition to the intense gender dysphoria I would start having as puberty set in...I found it much more difficult to cry, even when it felt like I needed to in order to feel better.

Twenty-five years later, I finally got the courage to transition (or rather, I felt I had to either transition or finally end my life.) Early into hormone replacement therapy, I slowly finally started feeling normal again. I could finally easily cry when I really needed to in order to feel better.


"Having a good cry" is definitely a real thing...and I always felt sorry for men that it seems harder for them to do so.

Well this is interesting, thanks for the perspective, really appreciated : ) Transformation is going good or it's like everything how it should be? Anyway would be nice, if you would share some of your thoughts for people to learn, because since you here, you probably understand, that people are kind of fed up with left talking points, but has nothing againts people who has to go throught this. I would personally appreciated, but it's obviously up to you. Especially something "what people doesn't not understand" or something like that, because without information from people like you, you know it's pretty impposible to know mostly anything about this topic. It's just a suggestion, obviously : )

But does sexual fantasy changed, that kind fo basic question, that I would have? : D

 

[Tesseract]

not really, it has to be some unbelievable trauma

that's not to say i don't want to, i force myself not to

idgaf about your bro tears shit, get away from me

 

[M1chl]

not really, it has to be some unbelievable trauma

Yeah in my case more traumatic stuff, less likely for me to cry. I am at the point, that internally I don't even count on being able to cry, honestly.

 

[Tesseract]

if it's just emotional stuff only, i basically have to be shell shocked by something completely unknown to crumble

there's fewer unknowns in my world at 34yo than 18

 

[pennythoughts]

My dad died 3 years ago unexpectedly when I was still in my early 20's and certain things can make me pause for a second and deal with a tough moment. One of his favorite Beatles song coming up on my spotify, talking to my mom about some distant childhood memory, a Duke basketball game and remembering how he went back to school in his 40s and got his masters.

I think people who will not cry at anything have either not experienced loss or are truly psychotic, certainly irrational. I find the obsession with denying one's emotional state to be dehumanizing but I think it's something that mostly younger men come to terms with and most grow out of it as they age.

 

[M1chl]

My dad died 3 years ago unexpectedly when I was still in my early 20's and certain things can make me pause for a second and deal with a tough moment. One of his favorite Beatles song coming up on my spotify, talking to my mom about some distant childhood memory, a Duke basketball game and remembering how he went back to school in his 40s and got his masters.

I think people who will not cry at anything have either not experienced loss or are truly psychotic, certainly irrational. I find the obsession with denying one's emotional state to be dehumanizing but I think it's something that mostly younger men come to terms with and most grow out of it as they age.

Well, this is not it. I don't try to supress it, I just simply can't do that. It has nothing to do that I would try supressit. I had to drink in order for my brain to "break down", but I no longer can...

 

[DESTROYA]

Yeah I can, unfortunately when my brother died of cancer really young . Still tears me up thinking about him.
It has to be something personal and extremely traumatic like losing someone.

 

[M1chl]

Yeah I can, unfortunately when my brother died of cancer really young . Still tears me up thinking about him.
It has to be something personal and extremely traumatic like losing someone.

Well I am sorry, you have to go through this... But on the plus side, you simply can. I cannot.

 

[DESTROYA]

Peel some onions and rub them in your eyes you’ll be crying like a baby in no time.

 

[M1chl]

Peel some onions and rub them in your eyes you’ll be crying like a baby in no time.

That brings more pain, than it releases, I would say : D

 

[Riven326]

Nah, they rationalize a lot but they rationalize like an insane person would rationalize.
Besides, sadness isn't the emotion that has taken them over. It's the angriness. Haven't you noticed how they are more often fuming from anger than crying when they are confronted by people with different opinions than them.

Insane people can't rationalize. That's why they're insane.

 

[HeresJohnny]

I cry at fucking Dodo videos man. I can’t help it. I watch two Dodo videos a day just to remind myself that there are good people in the world. Not like bawl crying but just leaky at the eyes if you know what I mean.

 

[Taxexemption]

Yes. I became a lot more in touch with my emotions while on nofap. I don't cry often, but when something genuinely makes me sad I start to tear up now. I probably wouldn't think it was related to nofap, but a lot of other nofappers have reported that they started feeling emotions more intensely after starting nofap.

 

[Ailynn]

Well this is interesting, thanks for the perspective, really appreciated : ) Transformation is going good or it's like everything how it should be? Anyway would be nice, if you would share some of your thoughts for people to learn, because since you here, you probably understand, that people are kind of fed up with left talking points, but has nothing againts people who has to go throught this. I would personally appreciated, but it's obviously up to you. Especially something "what people doesn't not understand" or something like that, because without information from people like you, you know it's pretty impposible to know mostly anything about this topic. It's just a suggestion, obviously : )

But does sexual fantasy changed, that kind fo basic question, that I would have? : D

You're welcome, and thank you for sharing!

As far as political stances, I'm very much in the middle - Being both transsexual and a faithful believer in Jesus Christ puts me in between two camps that are often at odds with each other. I believe so long as one shows empathy and having a reasonable head on their shoulders, most everyone here at NeoGAF are very welcoming and kind. ❤

One thing to note is the transgender "community" is going through a bit of an inner war. Old-school transsexuals (people with gender dysphoria and the feeling they should be the opposite sex) are slowly being pushed out of the community by people who seemingly want to change what it actually means to be transgender. Many of these self-diagnosed trans people don't suffer gender dysphoria at all, and some seemingly want to do everything they can to blend the two sexes in society.

I believe human sex is binary male and female, and very rarely the two can blend in the form of intersex babies and people born with a neurological birth defect which eventually results in gender dysphoria. I myself was prenatally effected by a drug called Diethylstilbestrol, which caused me several sexual physical and neurological abnormalities.

As far as sexual fantasies, I was always asexual...I never wanted sex at all, but I did desire intimacy. Testosterone caused me confusion, because I desired intimacy as a woman with a man, but I lacked any physical attraction for men. This was eventually fixed by estrogen, as I am now physically attracted to men...but still lack the desire for sex. It's all weird I know, but I'm okay with not having any sexual desire. I'm even okay being called a eunuch in every sense of the word.


I hope that answers your questions...please feel free to message me if you have any others. Thanks again for sharing, and I hope and pray you and your girlfriend have a much better year ahead for you.

 

[kingbean]

I cry almost daily, even on my medication.

A few days ago my hand accidentally touched my co-workers and I nearly vomited. I've got problems lol.

 

[Papa]

Fuckin cryin ass bitches

Hit the gym, pump your T, get swole and be the one that makes bitches cry

nu males smh

 

[M1chl]

You're welcome, and thank you for sharing!

As far as political stances, I'm very much in the middle - Being both transsexual and a faithful believer in Jesus Christ puts me in between two camps that are often at odds with each other. I believe so long as one shows empathy and having a reasonable head on their shoulders, most everyone here at NeoGAF are very welcoming and kind. ❤

One thing to note is the transgender "community" is going through a bit of an inner war. Old-school transsexuals (people with gender dysphoria and the feeling they should be the opposite sex) are slowly being pushed out of the community by people who seemingly want to change what it actually means to be transgender. Many of these self-diagnosed trans people don't suffer gender dysphoria at all, and some seemingly want to do everything they can to blend the two sexes in society.

I believe human sex is binary male and female, and very rarely the two can blend in the form of intersex babies and people born with a neurological birth defect which eventually results in gender dysphoria. I myself was prenatally effected by a drug called Diethylstilbestrol, which caused me several sexual physical and neurological abnormalities.

As far as sexual fantasies, I was always asexual...I never wanted sex at all, but I did desire intimacy. Testosterone caused me confusion, because I desired intimacy as a woman with a man, but I lacked any physical attraction for men. This was eventually fixed by estrogen, as I am now physically attracted to men...but still lack the desire for sex. It's all weird I know, but I'm okay with not having any sexual desire. I'm even okay being called a eunuch in every sense of the word.


I hope that answers your questions...please feel free to message me if you have any others. Thanks again for sharing, and I hope and pray you and your girlfriend have a much better year ahead for you.

Huge respect, to nice write up : ) What you saying, is in nutshell same what I hear from a 2m tall lady with way deeper voice than I have (unfair)....well I cannot use the language which she presented herself, because I would be probably kicked in diplomatic case, flown to America and than executed, not the mention, that I don't have spot for strong language. I feel like most of the "new-age" transsexuals are without any issue, aside from feeling alone, feeling not special, too much privilege and my life still sucks, etc. That it's done due to absolutely different reasons than...if I could name it like that....mental disorder (hope that's okay)...well that's probably not accurate, since they have to mentally challenged as well, just in totaly different way and most like less serious. Stuff that you would kill yourself if you don't change, it's....horryfing. So huge props, that you were able to withstand and fight for what you needed! Diethylstilbestrol is the stuff againts abortion? So there is actually linkage when it comes to medicine which your mother received and how you developed? Interesting. After all it's some non-steroid Estrogen... Interesting stuff.

I also believe in binary sex, because that I think is pretty observable, if not anything else. Intersex people are extremely rare if I am not mistaken.

Very interesting point with your analysis of your sexual/intimate attraction, that just from reading that, you really felt like a woman then, but just in men's body and that has to create huge disunion (I vocabulared it, so might be bad word, but I hope it make sense) inside you. Hmm I can already see, how could you see killing yourself. Tough stuff.

And when it comes to politics and your stance. I am not so sure that politics and relegion are in the same category. But you do you, if that's how you feel, than okay.

Makes me wonder, how you feel about people who pretending they have gender disphoria and it's something totally different. Must be tough, to go againts this bullshit. This is why, I like to ask myself, because not a single person share the same experience and it's better to read and learn, than to assume. Thank you very much!

Fuckin cryin ass bitches

Hit the gym, pump your T, get swole and be the one that makes bitches cry

nu males smh

No, I feel like man™ let me tell you : D

I cry almost daily, even on my medication.

A few days ago my hand accidentally touched my co-workers and I nearly vomited. I've got problems lol.

Aren't you having the same issue, as Norman Reedus in Death Stranding? That fear of touch or something like that?

 

[kingbean]

Aren't you having the same issue, as Norman Reedus in Death Stranding? That fear of touch or something like that?

I was raped/molested multiple times as a child. Some days are worse than others.
It's bad enough that I've never been with anyone.

 

[M1chl]

I was raped/molested multiple times as a child. Some days are worse than others.
It's bad enough that I've never been with anyone.

I was raped at 12 (and ridiculed), but I guess aside from one insecurity, I am fine. Well fine, this thread set expectation about what I am going to write about, so no I am not completely fine, but I don't exhibit this sort of anomalies. Suck to be a man in your position right? Because, you must have enjoyed it, makes my blood boil. Hopefully after that Johny Depp incident, things going to be slowly better, but I doubt it, because Left can have that, that man can be raped too. Stay strong.

My advice is to get in to relationship as soon as possible, that's how I recover very fast. Well recover to certain degree, those memories does not goes away. even if I experienced memory loss, this shit is inside me really deep.

 

[Threeshotgamer]

I grew up in a very rural and old school area. My family were tobacco farmers so the boys in my family were expected to "man up" pretty early. Any boy crying after age 6 or so could expect to be at minimum mocked at or at worst smacked.

 

[kingbean]

I was raped at 12 (and ridiculed), but I guess aside from one insecurity, I am fine. Well fine, this thread set expectation about what I am going to write about, so no I am not completely fine, but I don't exhibit this sort of anomalies. Suck to be a man in your position right? Because, you must have enjoyed it, makes my blood boil. Hopefully after that Johny Depp incident, things going to be slowly better, but I doubt it, because Left can have that, that man can be raped too. Stay strong.

Well I was raped/molested over the course of 6 years from 5-11 by my grandfather.

I was left with many, many complexes.

 

[M1chl]

I grew up in a very rural and old school area. My family were tobacco farmers so the boys in my family were expected to "man up" pretty early. Any boy crying after age 6 or so could expect to be at minimum mocked at or at worst smacked.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that, but premise of this thread is, if you are even able to cry or not. It's not about if it's "permissable" or something like that. If you are physically able.

 

[Papa]

I was raped/molested multiple times as a child. Some days are worse than others.
It's bad enough that I've never been with anyone.

I was raped at 12 (and ridiculed), but I guess aside from one insecurity, I am fine. Well fine, this thread set expectation about what I am going to write about, so no I am not completely fine, but I don't exhibit this sort of anomalies. Suck to be a man in your position right? Because, you must have enjoyed it, makes my blood boil. Hopefully after that Johny Depp incident, things going to be slowly better, but I doubt it, because Left can have that, that man can be raped too. Stay strong.

My advice is to get in to relationship as soon as possible, that's how I recover very fast. Well recover to certain degree, those memories does not goes away. even if I experienced memory loss, this shit is inside me really deep.

Lads, GAF ain’t the place for this. Keep it between you and your therapist.

 

[M1chl]

Well I was raped/molested over the course of 6 years from 5-11 by my grandfather.

I was left with many, many complexes.

Well that's way worse, in my case it was someone who gave me extra classes of Math, she was old hag (realistically like a 50 years old) and I cannot imagine to undure this for years as I have big scar on my soul forever for just a few minutes...

Lads, GAF ain’t the place for this. Keep it between you and your therapist.

Well then don't read it then, it's not like you are force to.

 

[Threeshotgamer]

That sucks. Sorry to hear that, but premise of this thread is, if you are even able to cry or not. It's not about if it's "permissable" or something like that. If you are physically able.

After this upbringing i dont think i could cry if i wanted too honestly which i should have said in my original post lol

 

[kingbean]

Lads, GAF ain’t the place for this. Keep it between you and your therapist.

I will find solidarity where I can.

 

[Papa]

Well that's way worse, in my case it was someone who gave me extra classes of Math, she was old hag (realistically like a 50 years old) and I cannot imagine to undure this for years as I have big scar on my soul forever for just a few minutes...



Well then don't read it then, it's not like you are force to.

I will be when all the other mentally ill “I was raped” types are drawn like mosquitoes to the porch light that you just turned on

 

[M1chl]

I will be when all the other mentally ill “I was raped” types are drawn like mosquitoes to the porch light that you just turned on

Fair enough, but I am not sure if that happens, but I presume, that NeoGaf members in here, just have the best lives, so we are probably only example in here. I promise. Yes I am special : D

 

[Papa]

Fair enough, but I am not sure if that happens, but I presume, that NeoGaf members in here, just have the best lives, so we are probably only example in here. I promise. Yes I am special : D

Misery loves company and there are a lot of miserable people on the internet. I’m fully aware of how heartless my previous comment reads but that shit can snowball once it takes root. There are plenty of examples of it. It’s also really selfish to lump random internet strangers with your problems like that. We are just names on a screen and do not provide “solidarity”. That can only come from your (real) friends and family and, most importantly, your therapist.

 

[M1chl]

Misery loves company and there are a lot of miserable people on the internet. I’m fully aware of how heartless my previous comment reads but that shit can snowball once it takes root. There are plenty of examples of it. It’s also really selfish to lump random internet strangers with your problems like that. We are just names on a screen and do not provide “solidarity”. That can only come from your (real) friends and family and, most importantly, your therapist.

Well I don't assume, that you would care about that in a first place. So for me, it's just writing shit on the internet and if you don't care for it, than your mind it's not going to be affected by it I expect. If it's just Slav in me thinking, than I am sorry, but that's who I am. I don't care when someone die for example Kobe Bryant, I did not go to thread with "meh another Celebrity dead, whatever". I just don't read that and I am fine. But if someone actually mentions, which I have been through, before me, something like "you are not alone" etc, seems appropriate in my eyes. Others definitely do not have to care for it (I don't expect them to), so I did not wrote it with intent to put weight on people's head or something like that. Besides, this is very closed group of people, so I would not expect other to jump on the bandwagon, this shit is very far and between. Luckily.

 

[Airola]

Insane people can't rationalize. That's why they're insane.

Of course they can.
Besides, you know what I mean by insane. When someone says someone on the left is insane, he doesn't mean actual clinical definition of insanity.
Even if it is about an actual insane person, it doesn't mean that person can't rationalize. The definition of rationalizing doesn't include that the outcome of rationalizing is logically, morally or legally right.
Some people in fact make their mental problems worse because they rationalize things in a manner that is not good for their mind.

 

[Riven326]

Of course they can.
Besides, you know what I mean by insane. When someone says someone on the left is insane, he doesn't mean actual clinical definition of insanity.
Even if it is about an actual insane person, it doesn't mean that person can't rationalize. The definition of rationalizing doesn't include that the outcome of rationalizing is logically, morally or legally right.
Some people in fact make their mental problems worse because they rationalize things in a manner that is not good for their mind.

No, I think they're clinically insane.

 

[M1chl]

No, I think they're clinically insane.

Is that AOC? : D

 

[Riven326]

Is that AOC? : D

Yep. That's crazy eyes.

 

[LegendOfKage]

that's not to say i don't want to, i force myself not to

There are alternatives:




And to each their own, but this is also largely a cultural thing.

 

[Airola]

No, I think they're clinically insane.

Fucking hell don't jump scare me like that

I understand the "leftists are literally insane" as a joke that's supposed to criticize certain political and social opinions and behaviors, and that's funny and all, but if someone actually thinks that is the actual truth without a hint of irony I will question their words about them being logical and rational very heavily

 

[Papa]

Well I don't assume, that you would care about that in a first place. So for me, it's just writing shit on the internet and if you don't care for it, than your mind it's not going to be affected by it I expect. If it's just Slav in me thinking, than I am sorry, but that's who I am. I don't care when someone die for example Kobe Bryant, I did not go to thread with "meh another Celebrity dead, whatever". I just don't read that and I am fine. But if someone actually mentions, which I have been through, before me, something like "you are not alone" etc, seems appropriate in my eyes. Others definitely do not have to care for it (I don't expect them to), so I did not wrote it with intent to put weight on people's head or something like that. Besides, this is very closed group of people, so I would not expect other to jump on the bandwagon, this shit is very far and between. Luckily.

I’m not saying that your intentions with this thread weren’t good; I’m saying that an Internet forum like GAF isn’t the place for it. People with genuine problems should go and see a therapist. The current_year dogma of sharing your problems as publicly and frequently as possible is bunk. It’s advice for women that has been misapplied to men. Being a man is about learning to carry your burdens and be stoic, not offload your burdens to others. Especially when the others are random strangers on the internet. The likes and positive comments might make you feel better for 30 seconds but it’s: a) artificial; and b) a distraction from getting real help. It also drags down the mood of the place and invites in the attention-seeking fake rape victims that places like Ree and Reddit are infested with.