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[Ponn]

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary. Gotcha.

 

[xsarien]

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary. Gotcha.

I somehow doubt the fact that Nintendo's going online is the "Revolution" they're talking about, but nice try with the attempt to be all sassy and shit.

 

[radioheadrule83]

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary. Gotcha.

Well depending on your point of view, sure there's nothing revolutionary about it. Hassle-free installation and connection is good extremely positive though. And Nintendo are delivering the cost-free and easy connections they promised. They had plans in place to start their own hotspots for their handheld before Sony (see Jim Merrick, Edge Magazine interview vs recent sony pr). This is from the company who completely snubbed online on Gamecube in favour of waiting and creating this kind of service. From nothing to Nintendo hotspots does surprise some people, yes.

And good call from the poster above. I didn't even consider that you might be talking about the actual Nintendo Revolution as well. The new aspect they're introducing there will be more than this alone.

 

[snapty00]

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary. Gotcha.

Pretty much. Iwata explained how any Wi-Fi network works.

 

[Ponn]

From IGN's interview

IGNcube: Rumor has it that DS will be going online soon. Why does Nintendo believe in an online model for DS, but not for GameCube?

Reggie: As I said during the E3 briefing last year, for DS it's not about online, but "no line," it's about wireless interactive play. And we're committed to wireless interactive play for DS. Mr. Iwata will have some information about that in his keynote speech. In terms of GameCube, I think in fairness we at Nintendo haven't done a great job of providing the Internet capability tools to our developers to create games for GameCube. We need to address that for all of our future systems and we're doing that. In terms of Revolution and its wireless capability, stay tuned -- more to come. We are absolutely committed to the sense of community and the worldwide sense of playing games against each other. We're going to be delivering that on every future system to the best of our ability.

The sarcasm is pointing more towards their hyping or vagueness to something innovative, specifically the first sentence. How many discussions did you see after their statements on how they were going to do online since they made it sound like they were not using conventional online? I actually applaud them for it because I think hype is a big way to sell systems.

Kiosks are a good idea and I will give them that one, depending on the place. Hanging out at a department store to play DS or PSP online is not my idea of fun and wifi hotspots in cafes are already more accessible.

 

[monkeyrun]

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary. Gotcha.

now stop being a cry baby :lol

 

[radioheadrule83]

The no-line soundbite reminds me of HD-era and other PR buzzwords, true enough.

From what Merrick said, they're thinking of going after ISPs that provide WANs, probably in places like airports, shopping centers and things like that (ie. BT openworld in UK etc). I think Sony are doing this too. I'd like to see some of the big games stores adopt a sitting area or something... it'd get more gamers into the shops.

The broadcom/Nintendo router will be really good for the less computer-literate. Their easy authentication button-press based front end for WEP/WPA sounds really good. And I'm finally glad to have confirmation that my hardware will work with it too.

It's all good. I look foreward to hearing more about online DS/PSP/REV stuff at E3.

 

[borghe]

In terms of GameCube, I think in fairness we at Nintendo haven't done a great job of providing the Internet capability tools to our developers to create games for GameCube.

understatement of the fucking year

 

[empanada]

understatement of the fucking year

Heh, atleast their owning up to it. That can only mean improvement in the future.

 

[Drinky Crow]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man, you loopy fruits and your weird fantasies of daisy-chain free WiFi services.

I *said* it would just be a Nintendo-brand router plus traditional WiFi support, but OH NO the retard brigade ONCE AGAIN ascribes all sorts of exotic (and ignorant) engineering feats to Nintendo. What's next; will the router have a PPU in it? Or maybe THREE-DEE GLASSES support?

I ROCK

IN YOUR FACE

IN YOUR FACE

IN YOUR FACE

So it's going to connect online just like the PSP already is and like most everyone expected it too except for the "Nintendo" spin to make it sound all revolutionary.

BUT BUT BUT BUT NINTENDO, INNOVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ponn]

The no-line soundbite reminds me of HD-era and other PR buzzwords, true enough.

From what Merrick said, they're thinking of going after ISPs that provide WANs, probably in places like airports, shopping centers and things like that (ie. BT openworld in UK etc). I think Sony are doing this too. I'd like to see some of the big games stores adopt a sitting area or something... it'd get more gamers into the shops.

The broadcom/Nintendo router will be really good for the less computer-literate. Their easy authentication button-press based front end for WEP/WPA sounds really good. And I'm finally glad to have confirmation that my hardware will work with it too.

It's all good. I look foreward to hearing more about online DS/PSP/REV stuff at E3.

I'm glad you liked the idea about sitting areas in game stores. I can't be specific with details but i'm finally very close (within a couple months) on starting a cafe/game store hybrid with such an idea in place. Imagine a Gamecrazy/Lan center minus computers/Cafe. One of the bigger dissappointments is that the DS has not been online (please have a web browser ready to go) to take more advantage of that. This annoucement kind of irked me since it really means there wasn't a good reason not to offer online play with it from the get go.

I honestly think wireless and online play is going to be huge, especially in the handheld market. I'm hoping the DS gets more onboard with this with alot more games taking advantage of this and not just tried and true FPS but different titles like Animal Crossing and Age of Empires or even Nintendogs. And now with the PSP reaching near console graphics the next generation of handhelds will really start to get interesting. I'm just getting upset with these vague hype statements that all the companies make, way back to "blast processing"

 

[trmas]

I'd like to find out more about the push-button authentication. I design networks for a living, and the biggest problem with wireless is security. You'd be amazed how many people have no concept of security with a wireless network.

If Nintendo makes it easy for the sheep, that will be a huge step in proliferating wireless networks.

 

[Particle Physicist]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man, you loopy fruits and your weird fantasies of daisy-chain free WiFi services.

I *said* it would just be a Nintendo-brand router plus traditional WiFi support, but OH NO the retard brigade ONCE AGAIN ascribes all sorts of exotic (and ignorant) engineering feats to Nintendo. What's next; will the router have a PPU in it? Or maybe THREE-DEE GLASSES support?

I ROCK

IN YOUR FACE

IN YOUR FACE

IN YOUR FACE



BUT BUT BUT BUT NINTENDO, INNOVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

huh.?! isnt that what most people basically figured. the only point of debate was if the DS would be able to connect to any router.. and were you basically saying that nintendo would probably make it so that you could only go online with their own routers?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Why is Mr. Crow so happy?

Have you not noticed that PSP is getting its ass kicked in Japan?

IN THE FACE!

IN THE FACE!

/Eddie Murphy Coming to America

 

[borghe]

I'd like to find out more about the push-button authentication. I design networks for a living, and the biggest problem with wireless is security. You'd be amazed how many people have no concept of security with a wireless network.

If Nintendo makes it easy for the sheep, that will be a huge step in proliferating wireless networks.

I will go out on a limb and say push-button authentication is a system where you can push a button on the WAP and it will automatically transmit the WPA/WEP key to any connected non-authenticated DS.

I imagine the Revolution will work on the same princicple.

 

[borghe]

looks like my limb was pretty sturdy

http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesnews2005/news20050121-05.html

 

[jarrod]

Say what? I thought everybody and their mother predicted Nintendo partnering with key hotspot providers, technology manufacturers and using one button WPA after the GDC & Broadcom announcements? All I remember Doug harping on was that DS has ~30m less signal range than PSP and doesn't use a broken 1990s security protocol like PSP.

 

[Flo_Evans]

so.. according to that article you press a button on your router and it automaticaly sends the WEP/WPA key to all the wireless devices in range? umm color me confused but this seems alot less secure then entering keys manually.

 

[borghe]

so.. according to that article you press a button on your router and it automaticaly sends the WEP/WPA key to all the wireless devices in range? umm color me confused but this seems alot less secure then entering keys manually.

while it configures a new network and installs those keys on each new device that is authorized to join the network.

basically it sounds like (taking it to the DS) it (the Nintendo router) will only autoconfigure DS' that are looking for hosts. And considering the DS will only work over WiFi through software, you would basically need a DS trying to establish a connection at the moment the button is pressed.

Not flawless, but for the most part not too much of a security hole and it eases configuration.

I mean if you think about it, ease of configuration of ANYTHING and security are pretty much diametrically opposed. I have never heard of something that is easier to configure AND safer and more protected.

 

[Jade Knight 08]

So, the 56kers who have internet access won't be able to use the Wifi -features. Am i correct? Is there a way to use the wifi features?


I'm one of those people. ~

 

[borghe]

So, the 56kers who have internet access won't be able to use the Wifi -features. Am i correct? Is there a way to use the wifi features?


I'm one of those people. ~

it basically has to be assumed that dial up users will for the most part be left out of much of the next-gen online plan.

it seems the universal way around this (unless they actually check connection speeds) is to have a single PC connected directly to a dialup account, have a NIC in the PC connected to the WAN port of a broadband wireless router, and have internet connection sharing turned on on that PC (and turn of NAT/PAT on the router).

complicated but it can be done (the same way people use XBox Live on a dialup).

p.s. or else have a linux dialup box and WAP connected to a hub and be familiar with linux routing, ipchains, etc.

 

[olimario]

So the USB thing isn't feasible? It would be nice to plug in a USB thingy and be able to use my DS with my broadband connection. I'd like to see that happen.

 

[Kamtendo]

Sounds pretty much like most expected(except for those expecting something super duper "revolutionary", although I don't see why they did). My main concern was there might not be a way to connect outside of hotspots, but I see u can use a router. Great news. Although I'm on dial-up now, I'll hopefully be moving up to a faster connection soon.

 

[borghe]

So the USB thing isn't feasible? It would be nice to plug in a USB thingy and be able to use my DS with my broadband connection. I'd like to see that happen.

what is/was the USB thing?

 

[olimario]

what is/was the USB thing?

Just a mockup.
It looked like a Jump Drive. Plug it into your PC, it will communicate with the DS and use your internet connect. Plug and play. No messing with routers.

 

[borghe]

Just a mockup.
It looked like a Jump Drive. Plug it into your PC, it will communicate with the DS and use your internet connect. Plug and play. No messing with routers.

the problem to this is that it would still require messing around with stuff on your pc. this solution is infintely more simple.

 

[Folder]

Wow.
Nintendo trolling never gets tiresome...