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Jane the Virgin S2 |OT| Mex Education
- Thread starter Leona Lewis
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I strongly disagree.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
I'm with you on all counts. I also wonder if there's just too many episodes per season. I feel like a crisper, tighter, less meandering experience would benefit everyone involved...
But yes, Team Rafael for life.
Michael was terrible.
There really wasn't any chemistry there, either - not like with Raf.
The episode where Rafael and Jane get together really sold me on the show. Their chemistry was so cute. I think it was Ep 6?
She has chemistry with both of them dummies.
Besides if you were Team Rafael you should've dug this episode. He was in mister perfect mode and the narrator did mention his girlfriend was forgettable. Maybe she changed the plans!?
Really liked the episode as a whole, shame that Rogelio didn't work out with Darci. She's much better than Bruce but I guess Rogelio probably won't have a kid with anyone but Xo, if at all. Really nice that Rogelio putting other people first has stuck with him. Deft touch with Alba too seeing as she lost Mateo Sr at a reasonably young age as well (before Jane was born).
I will say it was pretty weird to do a season's worth of build up on a book about Alba to switch it to Michael. I get that they kind of had to but still... also Jane's narration is the same as our narrators!
Oh and Petra being Queen of Everything now is fabulous.
This one has two less episodes, not that it'll make a huge difference.
Besides if you were Team Rafael you should've dug this episode. He was in mister perfect mode and the narrator did mention his girlfriend was forgettable. Maybe she changed the plans!?
Really liked the episode as a whole, shame that Rogelio didn't work out with Darci. She's much better than Bruce but I guess Rogelio probably won't have a kid with anyone but Xo, if at all. Really nice that Rogelio putting other people first has stuck with him. Deft touch with Alba too seeing as she lost Mateo Sr at a reasonably young age as well (before Jane was born).
I will say it was pretty weird to do a season's worth of build up on a book about Alba to switch it to Michael. I get that they kind of had to but still... also Jane's narration is the same as our narrators!
Oh and Petra being Queen of Everything now is fabulous.
This one has two less episodes, not that it'll make a huge difference.
Characters I like after the time skip:
-Rafael, Petra, Xiomara, and Alba. Oh and I guess the twins. You can really tell Rafael and Petra have grown a ton in three years.
Characters I don't like after the time skip:
-Everyone else. It really irked me that Jane was so hesitant to get real help for Mateo, wo so desperately needs it, and that she doesn't know how to properly talk to her boss after three fucking years on the job. Despite everything, it really seems like Jane hasn't grown up at all. Rogelio is a fucking asshole for staying on with the show after they made Xiomara a villain, and even more of an asshole for taking Xo up on her offer to let him continue the show. I don't care if she's "strong enough." Mateo is annoying, but it's obvious he has real problems so I guess I can't really blame the character.
Edit: Also I mistook Minka Kelly for Eliza Dushku wtf is wrong with me.
-Rafael, Petra, Xiomara, and Alba. Oh and I guess the twins. You can really tell Rafael and Petra have grown a ton in three years.
Characters I don't like after the time skip:
-Everyone else. It really irked me that Jane was so hesitant to get real help for Mateo, wo so desperately needs it, and that she doesn't know how to properly talk to her boss after three fucking years on the job. Despite everything, it really seems like Jane hasn't grown up at all. Rogelio is a fucking asshole for staying on with the show after they made Xiomara a villain, and even more of an asshole for taking Xo up on her offer to let him continue the show. I don't care if she's "strong enough." Mateo is annoying, but it's obvious he has real problems so I guess I can't really blame the character.
Edit: Also I mistook Minka Kelly for Eliza Dushku wtf is wrong with me.
Pretty weak episode overall, but it's hard to follow in the last's footsteps. I still cannot bring myself to care about Xiomara. I thought the reaction over Rogelio's show was blown way out of proportions at first, but now I can understand if that was simply not how she was promised to be portrayed. Even so, you would think Xiomara of all people would know that mistakes can be made and be more forgiving.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Caught up finally, although my goddamn motherfucking friend ruined the twist beforehand. RIP Michael and the bromance w/ Rogelio. Team Rafael all the way, but man that was still hard to watch.
Speaking of whom, Rafael and Petra have been great this season. Rogelio has always been a dense dude, but staying on that show after they portrayed Xo as the villain soured me on him
Speaking of whom, Rafael and Petra have been great this season. Rogelio has always been a dense dude, but staying on that show after they portrayed Xo as the villain soured me on him
Instead, we get to see Rogelio become an asshole. That's totally what everyone wanted, right?
WrenchNinja
Member
Man fuck this show
I know they foreshadowed his death with narration a season or two ago but this just felt like a total asspull
I guess it bothers me more cause I thought Michael was fun and it was nice seeing a show build up to a couple getting married and seeing them deal with all the issues that happen after that
I know they foreshadowed his death with narration a season or two ago but this just felt like a total asspull
I guess it bothers me more cause I thought Michael was fun and it was nice seeing a show build up to a couple getting married and seeing them deal with all the issues that happen after that
From what the creator said, it sounds like they wanted to kill him off earlier, but didn't because the people on the show and the fans liked him too much.
I'm more pissed off about the character assassination of Rogelio and Jane's stupidity more than Michael being gone. I thought the show would get better with Michael gone, but it's gotten worse. I'm done watching. Might read episode synopses to keep up with the overall story, but I'm not wasting an hour a week of my time on this anymore when 80% of the show is bad or boring to me.
Jane still burning bridges. She really cannot help herself, can she? This is what makes her the least likeable character on the show next to Xiomara. And they all jumped on Rogelio over Xiomara's portayal in his reality show, but Jane would have written Raphael as the villain in her novel? Come on.
BoboBrazil
Member
I tried watching a couple of episodes after Michael and it just isn't the show it was before. I'm done with the show.
Same.
I still love the show, but there are three things that are undeniably true:
1) Rogelio's reality show plotline is dead on arrival. Seriously, it sucks. No one cares anymore, we can't be going over the same ground over and over again with him and Xo.
2) Chuck is bad. Real bad. He's not a good love interest for Petra. They have no chemistry and the actor feels like he's from a different dimension. They should just hook Petra up with Raf already, they're the best pairing on the show and it'd be nice to give them what Jane and Michael had.
3) Jane and Raf work REALLY well as friends. Leading them down another romantic subplot could really damage the show.
I like that Michael died, I like that there was a time skip, but there are some undeniable issues that need addressing with this show. We need a steady regimen of Rafetra plotlines, and a defib on Rogelio and Xo's stories, and then we'll be good.
Also, where the hell is Lina?!
Me too. I don't stan Michael like you do, but they lost a lot when they did the time skip.
Sounds like I made the right decision to stop watching.
Leona Lewis
Banned
ugh, I get unbanned to see thisNot back til March 20th btw
The writers followed up on Michael pretty well for two episodes, but this latest one was just bad. I couldn't care less about Petra's ugly caricature of a squeeze, XoRo's constant drama, and even the narrator couldn't give a flying hoot about Abby, but at least I could once count on Jane still being an interesting character. Now she's just...blah. She doesn't have anyone to play off of with Lina M.I.A. and Michael R.I.P.
I still ship her and Petra though.
Jane would've saved herself so much grief had she just hooked up with her professor. The most unrealistic thing ever on this show was expecting us to believe that a mortal human being could resist his lips. And eyes. And abs.
lord
Wasn't feeling the episode in the first half, but it really swung around to great in the second half.
Rogelio was on fire this episode, and it's great he finally has a close relationship with a guy again. And it's Mateo!
Andrea Navedo made the Xo stuff work. Poor Bruce, just after he starts to get reliable.
Rafael getting rid of the zen shackles and being assertive when called for was also great.
Petra has been consistently great for ages now.
Abuela finally gonna get some action heh.
I like Jane and Mateo stuff, I just don't care for the school and the rest of those characters at all. New caretaker is nice, but just so much time spent in that school is frustrating.
Rogelio was on fire this episode, and it's great he finally has a close relationship with a guy again. And it's Mateo!
Andrea Navedo made the Xo stuff work. Poor Bruce, just after he starts to get reliable.
Rafael getting rid of the zen shackles and being assertive when called for was also great.
Petra has been consistently great for ages now.
Abuela finally gonna get some action heh.
I like Jane and Mateo stuff, I just don't care for the school and the rest of those characters at all. New caretaker is nice, but just so much time spent in that school is frustrating.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Great episode.
Raf + Petra are just right.
As is forever alone Jane.
Raf + Petra are just right.
As is forever alone Jane.
Same. I've been really disappointed with the last couple eps. I'm glad y'all dug this latest one, truly, just did not do anything for me. The political storyline felt forced to me. I didn't like how the Bruce subplot went in the most predictable direction, either.
It's absurd because they're treating Bruce like he's only been dating Xo for a few weeks but there's a whole three years we didn't see. Their relationship would be totally different by then.
Jane catching Petra in the closet and the grandma getting caught making out in the golf course got a good laugh out of me. This whole episode has been hilarious as a whole with the flirt scanner. Poor Rafael can't catch a break though.
And just like that, it's one month break. I'm going to miss that returning episode since I'll be out of town until Tuesday.
And just like that, it's one month break. I'm going to miss that returning episode since I'll be out of town until Tuesday.
I haven't seen today's episode, but
This show just really pisses me off sometimes. Like, I love it a lot, but
But gotta say Mateo's Aid is a huge cutie. Looooove it.
This show just really pisses me off sometimes. Like, I love it a lot, but
Seriously, the thing with Xo and Bruce? It was going perfectly for over 4 years and suddenly Xo has feelings for Rogelio again? For Drama? I'm not even happy about that.
And then there's Petra. I want to like Petra, she's gone through some important character development. And then she has to do something that makes me go "Why?! Why did you do this?! You're doing this to yourself."
And then there's Petra. I want to like Petra, she's gone through some important character development. And then she has to do something that makes me go "Why?! Why did you do this?! You're doing this to yourself."
But gotta say Mateo's Aid is a huge cutie. Looooove it.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Ugh, that hotel guy is such a one-note sleaze. Petra can do so much better.
Bruce/Xo/Rogelio zzzzzzzZ
And is it just me or has the show been writing Jane as more and more juvenile? Like, other than being a single mother, I don't really get the sense that she's matured forwards after Michael's death. I just wish we could see her actually in control for once.
But on the upside, Abuela getting her sexy on will never be anything but life-affirmingly delightful.
Bruce/Xo/Rogelio zzzzzzzZ
And is it just me or has the show been writing Jane as more and more juvenile? Like, other than being a single mother, I don't really get the sense that she's matured forwards after Michael's death. I just wish we could see her actually in control for once.
But on the upside, Abuela getting her sexy on will never be anything but life-affirmingly delightful.
Sucks to be back on a break. Back on April 24.
Few very minor spoilers:
Few very minor spoilers:
Luisa and real Rose (Bridget Regan) are back at some point.
Tyler Posey is joining the show (recurring), will show up in the finale and into next season. Potentially Jane's secret first love?
Michael is back for the finale, of course! Also when are we going to see the aftermath already. I need to see Rogelio's reaction.
Tyler Posey is joining the show (recurring), will show up in the finale and into next season. Potentially Jane's secret first love?
Michael is back for the finale, of course! Also when are we going to see the aftermath already. I need to see Rogelio's reaction.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Back on!
I approve this male objectification.
I approve this male objectification.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
You're getting me excited. I hate how CWTV.com waits until the next day to post the show.
Is it Raf-related? Tell me it's Rafael.
Fabian's body is perfection, my God.
Really happy we finally got to see Rogelio's side of Michael's death. It's a long time coming and we knew he'd be the character most affected by it next to Jane.
AV Club: A-
Really happy we finally got to see Rogelio's side of Michael's death. It's a long time coming and we knew he'd be the character most affected by it next to Jane.
AV Club: A-
She's got her Green Card so hopefully that would be hard. Love that she's marching.
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