Yeah man, he wasn't even on the last PPV WTF.
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Yeah man, he wasn't even on the last PPV WTF.
Cerebral Assassin
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The Rock put over Lesnar & came back & tried to put over the Hurricane when he was part-time.
Can you believe he's not even a champion at the moment? It's that punk guy or something
British Monsoon
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And how'd that work out? The guy left the industry less than two years later.
I just think that if you're going to have veterans in the product then they should be there to help put over the younger talent that will go on to serve the promotion well in the long-term, not some guy who was going to be booked to the top regardless and who had no real love for wrestling and no interest in sticking around.
Because The Rock knew Brock would quit wrestling in 2 years when he was putting him over? Using The Rock as your soapbox for this is pretty misguided. Use people who actually help your argument, like Triple H and Undertaker. Undertaker hasn't put over a young guy since his Jeff Hardy Ladder Match 10 years ago.
Cerebral Assassin
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You said they( SC & The Rock) never put anyone over on their way out, & The Rock clearly did( & if Lesnar had stayed he would have been a multiple WC) & don't forget about Jericho who is still living off beating both men in one night (I know Jericho was already over, but to people who weren't watching then it still comes across as an impressive feat).
Also don't forget the WWE used Foley to put over various people over the years so its not exactly unheard of for that to occur.
HHH put that skinny fat ass over.
This Bodes well for "The Streak Killer" Triple H.
I love you pops.
British Monsoon
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No, I said that on their way out they never put over anyone deserving in my eyes. Sure, Lesnar would have counted if he'd stuck around, but he didn't and in hindsight it would have been better, imo, to use The Rock's final appearance to put over someone more likely to still be working, who in turn could help put over some new stars today.
It's just wasteful, like Bastita putting over Cena on his way out.
But, as DM says before, this doesn't make any sense. Lesnar became a megastar and the Rock helped that by putting him over. It was hardly wasteful. How was Lesnar, at the time, not deserving?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G0oYnNtHzyo#t=31s
I hope you like your Triple H video games and comic books.
Batistia and Cena were both megastars, Brock and Rock are nothing like that situation.
Saying hindsight is just plain silly. HOW could they know Brock would leave in two years?
It was a great move that made perfect sense at the time, to put over Brock. There's no point in saying "well he became a big star but left quickly later, they should have put someone else over". They don't have crystal balls.
Cerebral Assassin
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Didn't Triple H cleanly lose 2 'Mania main events in a row? And 'Taker lost to Koslov & the Great Khali
So if Lesnar put someone over on his way out you would have had no problem with The Rock?
The more I think about it the worse it gets.
I mean Summer of Punk was crazy, Money in the Bank was the best PPV in forever, people were hyped, people OUTSIDE wrestling were hyped to see where everything went...
And here comes Triple H, LITERALLY THE NEXT NIGHT, to make the storyline all about him.
THE NEXT NIGHT.
THE NEXT. NIGHT.
HES STILL GOT IT *CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*
Thank you Vince! Thank you Vince!
Cerebral Assassin
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The "story" is (& always was) about Vince.
Punk got ESPN to talk about the WWE, and it wasn't for an obituary.
Was Triple H still pissed that Punk got more chants at Survivor Series 2006?
Punk got ESPN to talk about the WWE, and it wasn't for an obituary.
Was Triple H still pissed that Punk got more chants at Survivor Series 2006?
I'm still pissed how HHH immediately buried Punk after that by saying "He asked are you ready?!"
British Monsoon
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Y2Kev said:
Again, I'm only speaking in hindsight. I wasn't even watching WWE during those years, so I have little frame of reference other than reading results at the time.
But for me it is wasteful to put someone over who isn't going to be there to in turn put someone else over down the line, and yes there's no possible way WWE could have known that Lesnar wouldn't stick around, but that's the way it is.
This is a large part of why AJPW kicked serious ass in the 80's and 90's, because there was a consistent chain of wrestlers being put over by veterans and then in turn putting over younger talent years later. Baba put over Misawa, Hansen put over Kobashi and then Misawa put over Kawada, while Kobashi put over Akiyama, and so on. But even so there were missed opportunities they couldn't have foreseen, Hansen put over Tenryu, only for him to split away from AJPW and form SWS, while Baba put over Tsuruta, only for illness to force him from wrestling before he in turn could put anyone over to great effect.
Cerebral Assassin[/quote said:
I don't have a problem with the Rock anyways, this whole thing started simply because I believe that Rock's star power could have been better utilised to put over younger talent, and that's of no fault to the Rock, but rather WWE creative. But yes, ideally Lesnar would have stayed around long enough to put over some of the younger talent, which in turn would have further validated Rock putting Lesnar over, beyond the short-term gains they got from those 1.5 years after their match.
Spider from Mars
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Guys, WWE.com said that HHH had the best match of 2011. Everybody loves Paul and wants to see him at all times. Punk was lucky to be attached to such an icon of the industry.
I found it funnier when one week Michael Cole said Sheamus grew up in the "rough streets" of Dublin and was beaten up by the other kids because his skin is pale. Now if Cole said it was because Sheamus has ginger hair it wouldn't actually be that far off the mark.
It's going to be amazing when he's inducted while being WWE champion.
CrunchinJelly
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I think you mean Bring Your Son to Work Day.
Spider from Mars
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They should bring Jay Lethal in to fight for the heart of AJ. Plus, Lethal could ask Dan how his dick taste.
hahahahahaha Burn.
Keyser Soze
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I have a question.
Why is HHH currently not getting pushed? Did he piss of someone backstage to cut his push short? It really seemed like he was ready for the bigtime.
Why is HHH currently not getting pushed? Did he piss of someone backstage to cut his push short? It really seemed like he was ready for the bigtime.
I miss RAW ending with his theme playing :<
he's too busy at home being preggers
No, it starts with his theme. Cena's ends it.
Unless it was 2003. Then it starts and ends with his theme.
Also it played in the middle too.
Morgadeth
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Dead, dead, dead career.
Also, WWE needs to bring in the Pope - AJ can be one of his girls. Or revive Mark Henry's sexual chocolate gimmick and have a romance angle with AJ/Henry.
I miss 2003!!!
Shadowlink
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Watch the documentary first.
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