Terrabyte20xx
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I agree.
The sad part is that a small guy beating up a big guy isn't even unheard of in actual fights.
Case in point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Gracie
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The sad part is that a small guy beating up a big guy isn't even unheard of in actual fights.
Case in point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Gracie
SaturdayNFever
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Daniel Bryan is about 200lbs billed at 210, stands 5' 9" billed at 5' 10"
Benoit was 40lbs heavier, about 2 inches taller and just fit the bill better.
Rey Lesnar, SUCKED
Eddie Lesnar wasnt too bad also.
Have to disagree on Punk and Lesnar, to be honest just glad Punk is gone.
Bryan trained at Randy Couture's gym. It's not like the guy doesn't know MMA either.
Also, Benoit was billed at 5'11, but most people say he was 5'9 or 5'10 at the most.
even with his size, I still think Brock could beat Big Show in a shoot fight
Brock was the UFC World Heavyweight Champion, he can go... not so sure about Show
Bigger makes you a better fighter!
"He holds the most consecutive submission victories in UFC history with 11, which he earned between UFC 1 and UFC 4."
"he was the tournament winner of UFC 1, UFC 2, UFC 4, and fought to a draw with Ken Shamrock in the championship match in the Superfight at UFC 5"
Royce Gracie was only six feet tall and less than 180 pounds.
Jimmy King
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SaturdayNFever, what are you doing?
Rollins is a complete joke kayfabe-wise, only Ambrose is maybe more of a loser in the realm of people that should be taken seriously but aren't. He could cash in, have J&J accidentally fuck it up for him, and he's completely free of blame.
Rollins is a complete joke kayfabe-wise, only Ambrose is maybe more of a loser in the realm of people that should be taken seriously but aren't. He could cash in, have J&J accidentally fuck it up for him, and he's completely free of blame.
But what about a challenge at the Golden Corral.
FallingEdge
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In your 30 years of watching wrestling, what matches do you consider to be great?
Same. Don't even care who wins, just want to see this match before Brock swans off.
You have weird taste and I have no idea how you've ever been able to watch wrestling, because there have been so many legitimate athletes that would crush everyone in a real fight that never did dick all in pro wrestling. If you're applying that kind of logic to wrestling, I can't see how you've ever been able to enjoy it.
And an example from Brock in real fighting: He lost to two dudes smaller than him in the UFC, one by submission and one by TKO.
Bryan and Brock will be an entertaining match. It will also look ridiculous. That's a problem with Brock, not with Bryan.
Brock's size/athleticism and (more importantly) pedigree as an actual fighter makes most of his recent fights where he doesn't murder someone seem really dumb.
Brock's size/athleticism and (more importantly) pedigree as an actual fighter makes most of his recent fights where he doesn't murder someone seem really dumb.
One swift kick to the knees would change that.
SaturdayNFever
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Im sorry but when you bring in a guy that now has multiple legit titles (REAL TITLES), the believablity stakes go up, maybe not for us types but for a guy just turning it on, or kid that used to watch UFC and watched brock and knows that WWE isnt real (because his mom tells him) then when Bryan is stomping on Lesnar the believability factor should be more taken care of, at least when it comes to Lesnar.
DO I think a big slow giant can get beat down by Bryan sure, but Lesnar is just an athletic freak, I just want to see WWE use him for the universes best, as well as all the talen they have thats all.
It is fake, but whats wrong with attmepting to provide some realism in place of long shot fantasy?
Who should beat Lesnar then?
FallingEdge
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In your 30 years of watching wrestling, what matches do you consider to be great?
SaturdayNFever
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I agree, but was SOLD, gold medal in wrestling without getting punched and stomped on is still bellievable if you get beat LOL
SaturdayNFever
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In your 30 years of watching wrestling, what matches do you consider to be great?
Thats difficult, speaking purely on the wrestling that was going on or are we to include the fued as well?
Jimmy King
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This is a very lofty and incoherent goal. Are you saying you want to see Brock fight aliens? I'd be down for that, but I don't think it's likely to happen.
FallingEdge
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I don't care, it is whatever you want it to be. I just would like to know what matches are your favorites.
Where can I buy the DVD of that.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Because an invincible superman over a prolonged period of time is a boring story. The giant exists exclusively to be slain.
Wrestling is also a tv show/movie/whatever, just framed like a sport. What is a better story, the man who beats everybody, or the man who beats everybody but then gets beaten by the one guy no one thought could actually beat him?
BronsonLee
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What the fuck is going on here
The match just needs to be fun. It just has to follow the laws of pro wrestling physics not real fighting.
You know. Have a no DQ match where Brock gets cocky and lets his guards down. Not too different from Punk and Brock.
It's not like Hulk Hogan could really beat Andre. Can't over think this shit.
You know. Have a no DQ match where Brock gets cocky and lets his guards down. Not too different from Punk and Brock.
It's not like Hulk Hogan could really beat Andre. Can't over think this shit.
Don't let these marks run you off, SaturdayNFever. I'm with you 100%. Lil' Danny Bryan beating highly-decorated collegiate athlete and super heavyweight shootfighter Brock Lesnar is WCW levels of fuckery, and should be equated to David Arquette winning the world heavyweight title when it comes to shattering any suspension of disbelief.
Jimmy King
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Dr Duncan Steel
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Me reading everything.
what a heel
Sibersk Esto
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sure, long videos save your place anyway
The guy wasn't even a wrestler. At least to me that was the biggest issue. If he was out there doing a 450 splash it be different.
It'd be even worse when Reigns beats Lesnar with a punch when in real life, Lesnar has never been knocked out.
It wouldn't be unbelievable to think that Bryan could make Lesnar tap though. Especially since Lesnar's done it before in UFC fights.
FlammableD
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Wasn't this thread full of people bitching about the believability of Punk/Brock? Where were all of you then
British Monsoon
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Punk is a considerably worse wrestler and athlete than Bryan. And that match was still good because of how it was set up.
I'm sure I threw in my two cents about the fatty, but in the end the match was fantastic.
avengers23
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And he can't feel pain because he's medicated to the gills, so he's basically like Bane.
Hey, your local sports team is very not good.
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Deleted member 47027
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It's just hard to take Bryan seriously because he looks like such a weenie. Talent notwithstanding, he looks like he'd have a hard time killing a spider in his home. I know he's talented, and I know he can do great things, but at first blush, he looks like he is weak. That's all.
Honestly, I do like Bryan a great deal. Paired with the right person he can look fantastic, and I have no doubt Brock would make him look like a million bucks, so I'm not worried about that at all. Remember those Ryback strikes? Looked great.
FlammableD
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You know. You've convinced me. Little Danny Boy beating the true genetic freak of Brock Lesnar, especially coming off of a neck injury? Ridiculous. You see, I could believe HHH reversing the kimura, sweeping, and then applying his own. HHH is a very large man and work out freak. Bryan looks like an extra in a Mumford and Sons video. PPV numbers have been tanking for years. Who is going to buy your biggest show of the year based on:
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I'm with friend Heel on this one.
Just becuause he doesn't look roided up doesn't mean he looks like weenie Sunny.
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