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January Wrasslin' |OT2| Big Month Meltz
- Thread starter Biggest-Geek-Ever
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thank you. it's not some genius move to get orton over. that's how they're going to treat it tonight, complete with fake fan reactions of people marking out in the crowd when his music hits.
Sorry to break this to you Zach...... but Mr Kennedy sucks.
SUCKS.
That's probably right.
avengers23
Banned
This Rumble didn't leave me upset like previous Rumbles recently did, but it just left me kind of disappointed. The Rumble has become a giant indicator to how tone deaf Vince is to what his audiences want, or perhaps a giant indicator that he doesn't give a shit. Orton's has a pretty decent run in recent years, but was anyone actually asking for another main event Wrestlemania run from Orton?
This was probably the biggest Royal Rumble crowd ever and yet this Rumble had probably the fewest surprise entrants possible, so the crowd barely got to pop. Tye coming in at #10 was perfect, but what else was there? Samoa Joe? Finn Balor's return? Angle? They were in Texas, couldn't they have talked HBK or Austin into doing a quick spot? This felt like the perfect year to pull the trigger on someone like Sami Zayn, or Bray Wyatt, or The Miz since he's had a fantastic year and all of them could lead to interesting Mania main events, but nope. They hype up Goldberg, Brock, and Undertaker for the Rumble and collectively all three of them are in the match for what, 5 minutes? Also, I'm a huge mark for Undertaker but good lord he looks out of shape and old now. Taker, please hang it up after WrestleMania. Oh, and I don't know what the fuck Vince is doing with Roman right now, assuming he wants to keep Roman as the super babyface, because putting him in a program with Taker is going to give Roman unshakable heat.
I'm honestly shocked that Owens kept his title since Royal Rumble seemed to weed out all of the more recent fan favorites from the WrestleMania picture.
This was probably the biggest Royal Rumble crowd ever and yet this Rumble had probably the fewest surprise entrants possible, so the crowd barely got to pop. Tye coming in at #10 was perfect, but what else was there? Samoa Joe? Finn Balor's return? Angle? They were in Texas, couldn't they have talked HBK or Austin into doing a quick spot? This felt like the perfect year to pull the trigger on someone like Sami Zayn, or Bray Wyatt, or The Miz since he's had a fantastic year and all of them could lead to interesting Mania main events, but nope. They hype up Goldberg, Brock, and Undertaker for the Rumble and collectively all three of them are in the match for what, 5 minutes? Also, I'm a huge mark for Undertaker but good lord he looks out of shape and old now. Taker, please hang it up after WrestleMania. Oh, and I don't know what the fuck Vince is doing with Roman right now, assuming he wants to keep Roman as the super babyface, because putting him in a program with Taker is going to give Roman unshakable heat.
I'm honestly shocked that Owens kept his title since Royal Rumble seemed to weed out all of the more recent fan favorites from the WrestleMania picture.
HazySaiyan
Banned
I'd pop for "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs."
Fuck imagine if he came out to that at Mania. I honestly don't know how I'd react
esmith08734
Member
Yeah, they really cut the legs out from Styles. Barely on poster, buried by Cena in promos (AJ was great but Cena's lines were brutal), and coming out first as champion? Damn, man. Now he will get Shane McMahon. What the hell?
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
I'd pop for "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs."
I'm dying here.
Conrad Link
Member
Orton should have just stayed in innocent midcard feuds or continue along with his Wyatt tag stuff, most people don't hate him but no one was asking for another f**king WM main event run, ugh. Please, stop going backwards WWE. :|
He doesn't come across as someone desperate for the spotlight anymore, what drive could he possibly have left to make this a fantastic magical program of interest? They probably just went up to him and said "Randy you're winning the Rumble and main eventing Wrestlemania." And he's like "Me? Oh ok." *shrugs and walks away*
He doesn't come across as someone desperate for the spotlight anymore, what drive could he possibly have left to make this a fantastic magical program of interest? They probably just went up to him and said "Randy you're winning the Rumble and main eventing Wrestlemania." And he's like "Me? Oh ok." *shrugs and walks away*
Nocturnowl
Member
A lot has been said over the past few hours but my late take on things was that the rumble match was actually one of the best in years, until it just devolved into messiness around the 20 mark when it was clear that they didn't want to eliminate people until one of the big three entered, and of course they all entered post 25 so....lotsa waiting.
They were doing a good job weaving the smaller feuds into the match as well, heck even the use of Lesnar was on point.
Suddenly Roman Reigns reveal and the "well at least it ain't Reigns" Orton win just went and put a downer on what was otherwise a decent rumble.
People saying it's THE WORST in recent years must be real forgetful of everything from 2012 onwards.
Rest of the PPV was solid, a bit disappointing that the otherwise stellar Cena/Styles took the finisher fest kick out bonanza route once more after avoiding it for like 15 minutes but still good, ain't even mad at a Cena title win.
Hang on, where was Kane? his name was on the Apron! minus 6 stars.
They were doing a good job weaving the smaller feuds into the match as well, heck even the use of Lesnar was on point.
Suddenly Roman Reigns reveal and the "well at least it ain't Reigns" Orton win just went and put a downer on what was otherwise a decent rumble.
People saying it's THE WORST in recent years must be real forgetful of everything from 2012 onwards.
Rest of the PPV was solid, a bit disappointing that the otherwise stellar Cena/Styles took the finisher fest kick out bonanza route once more after avoiding it for like 15 minutes but still good, ain't even mad at a Cena title win.
Hang on, where was Kane? his name was on the Apron! minus 6 stars.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Shoemaker had a good theory for mania: Cena loses the belt at Elimination Chamber to Bray, setting up Bray Orton for Mania
I am 100% not looking forward to Reigns/Taker or Goldberg/Brock v2. Taker looked like absolutely dog shit out there.
I am 100% not looking forward to Reigns/Taker or Goldberg/Brock v2. Taker looked like absolutely dog shit out there.
When I realized Reigns was going to be #30 I just kind of went "are you fucking kidding me?"
Absolutely hilarious that they tried to get people way into Orton by having him eliminate the heat magnet Roman to win it. Like, if you have to resort to those kind of tactics maybe it's a sign Randy Orton shouldn't be winning a Rumble in 2017? Yes we liked Randy much more latley as a Wyatt, but we didn't say we fucking loved him. Maybe this is a sign that any time fans get even mildly behind one of Vince's favorites, he's just going to thrust them to the top in an instant.
Oh and Michael Cole totally went "HERE COMES THE BIG DAWG, BUT TAKER IS GOING TO SHOW HIM THIS IS HIS YARD!". The level of corny and stupidness feels like 2012 again.
Absolutely hilarious that they tried to get people way into Orton by having him eliminate the heat magnet Roman to win it. Like, if you have to resort to those kind of tactics maybe it's a sign Randy Orton shouldn't be winning a Rumble in 2017? Yes we liked Randy much more latley as a Wyatt, but we didn't say we fucking loved him. Maybe this is a sign that any time fans get even mildly behind one of Vince's favorites, he's just going to thrust them to the top in an instant.
Oh and Michael Cole totally went "HERE COMES THE BIG DAWG, BUT TAKER IS GOING TO SHOW HIM THIS IS HIS YARD!". The level of corny and stupidness feels like 2012 again.
I still don't believe that's going to happen. #VinceLogic doesn't mesh with the idea of Cena dropping the title right before WrestleMania in favor of Bray Wyatt, the eater of pushes.
Nocturnowl
Member
Sure did, still gutted he never got to cash in his case due to a misdiagnosed injury.
esmith08734
Member
I would try and give Taker some slack on his appearance but Goldberg is old as hell too and he looks great. Taker needs to stop rack-pulling 500 pounds and cut some pounds.
ORTON VS CENA
NEVER BEFORE
NEVER AGAIN (until we have no fucking idea what to do with them again)
Eh, Undertaker has a lot more miles on the clock though.
I don't really give a shit about either in 2017 though so eh.
Taker looked bad. His hair looked bad. His makeup looked bad. His mobility looked bad. His big gut looked bad. And yeah, like you mentioned, compared to Goldberg it looks even worse.
Conrad Link
Member
I don't even understand where they go with Bork and Goldberg.
He's squashed him twice now what happens at WM? It's not gonna be another squash so how do they explain Bork's sudden ability to not get squashed?
"He's been training so hard and is taking it seriously now!"
So after the SS surprise squash he still took him lightly at the RR?
He's squashed him twice now what happens at WM? It's not gonna be another squash so how do they explain Bork's sudden ability to not get squashed?
"He's been training so hard and is taking it seriously now!"
So after the SS surprise squash he still took him lightly at the RR?
sf2fanatic
Member
CapriSun too stronk for him
They spent 2-3 years building Brock into a world beating mega monster. Then Dadberg makes him look like a literal jobber two times in a row. It seems really fucking stupid.I don't even understand where they go with Bork and Goldberg.
He's squashed him twice now what happens at WM? It's not gonna be another squash so how do they explain Bork's sudden ability to not get squashed?
"He's been training so hard and is taking it seriously now!"
So after the SS surprise squash he still took him lightly at the RR?
I don't even understand where they go with Bork and Goldberg.
He's squashed him twice now what happens at WM? It's not gonna be another squash so how do they explain Bork's sudden ability to not get squashed?
"He's been training so hard and is taking it seriously now!"
So after the SS surprise squash he still took him lightly at the RR?
Yeah I have no idea what they do with Brock/Goldberg now. This isn't a story about a courageous underdog overcoming a big unbeatable beast, because Brock is the goddamn heel of the feud.
Maybe they just switch out Brock for Jinder Mahal and see if anyone gives a shit or not.
Hell, Kane is only two years younger than Taker, works more dates than either of them, and looks better.
It's time for Mean Mark to hang it up.
Cena always needs to finish all of his feuds with a win. Wyatts, Owens, Rusev
He just never get his win back against Del Rio because he leave the company before that
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
If the rumors are true, we are looking at a really bad card for Mania. I don't buy them putting the belt on Bray, so I am guessing Cena v Orton is the main event, with maybe some Bray interference. Not really interested in Brock v Goldberg. Reigns vs Taker will be a fucking dumpster fire. AJ vs Shane, I don't think anyone wants to see that. Owens vs Jericho will have a fun build, but the match will probably be shit. Joe will probably show up and win the battle royal. All of the big money matches are just bad.
I've been saying this since the start, it was one of the dumbest moves I can think. The end of the streak means nothing now, as it wasn't passed to any new star. They just gave it to a part timer then passed the diminished version of it to a part timer who's 50 and now it's just lost for no good reason and everyone Brock squashed just look like shit, as no one other than Goldberg can touche him, while any other star was completely dominated.
Basically, Brock is only average, the rest is garbage and 50 years old Goldberg is good.
WWE's favorite narrative is Past >>>> ... >>>> Present, forever
Cena winning his 16th world title and losing it two weeks later is kind of a summary of how meaningless those 16 wins were on average. Most of them are really short hot potato reigns just padding out the number.
Did you know Orton is a 12 time world champ? Do you remember any of the 12 times?
Did you know Orton is a 12 time world champ? Do you remember any of the 12 times?
That time he beat Benoit
That time he constantly went over Bryan until WM 30
That time he sexually assaulted Steph?
That time with the Legacy
Errrr
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
As much as I hated it at the time, Reigns should have beat Brock. It would be better than how it ended up. Someone should have gotten over from beating SNK boss Lesnar.
Cena's 16 deserves a giant fucking asterisk next to it since most of his world title reigns came when the company had two world title belts.
sf2fanatic
Member
He was enjoying the moment. Rumble brings out the kid in everyone
And after Mania, when Brock beats Goldberg in a boring ass 20 minute match, it'll be Brock and Goldberg are average and the rest is garbage.
I'm of the opinion that either Bray should've broken the streak and become the new face of fear or that Strowman should eventually beat Brock to become the new monster. Then he can be beaten by Roman or whatever. But, honestly, any current star who's bellow 35 would result in better long term benefits than Goldberg but NOOOO we need those hashtags.
Daniel Bryan should have been the one to take down Brock. Seriously, that story fucking wrote itself. Daniel Bryan returning to reclaim the title he never lost versus God King Lesnar. That was the Andre vs Hogan of this era and the crowd would have been so incredibly hot for that match.
Nocturnowl
Member
The time he lost it and won it back on the same PPV?
Or was that Triple H? I can't remember the specifics
Brock gonna get his win at Mania, gonna show up 2-3 times during the rest of the year for a 10 min squash match and his defeat against Goldberg will became almost non-canon
Probably in the future they still gonna make someone of the main roster beat Brock and look like it's a incredible thing
Probably in the future they still gonna make someone of the main roster beat Brock and look like it's a incredible thing
I bet you are going to evoke some specific posters with this post.
But they needed him to repeatedly headbutt Ziggler on a ladder for the IC belt.
sf2fanatic
Member
Orton was actually good yesterday