Oh yeah, BIG MATCH JAWN got injured so Vince just gave Orton the belt, then HHH beat him, then Orton beat him.
What a decade it has been
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January Wrasslin' |OT2| Big Month Meltz
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Oh yeah, BIG MATCH JAWN got injured so Vince just gave Orton the belt, then HHH beat him, then Orton beat him.
What a decade it has been
He's been good ever since the Wyatt turn. He is still 100 percent the wrong person to be winning the Royal Rumble when you have other people that need to be pushed.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Last year at wrestlemania the whole crowd booed every time Roman had any sort of offense, against undertaker this will be so much worse.
Anything you do with da big dawg results in X-Pac heat now anyway. May as well get your wet dream looking strong by going over Taker. At least it won't be last so WM won't be booed off the air again.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Yeah, I mean lots of people would have been better than Reigns. Unfortunately, if it was going to be anyone it was going to be Reigns. just saying Reigns would be better than Goldberg being the guy who gets the rub. Its really annoying how they use the old timers. There's no interest at all in using them to make current talent look good.
You could write a book about how badly they have mishandled Bray. From my anecdotal experience watching wrestling with casuals, Bray is one of the only non part timers people seemed excited about.
He probably thinks the achievement is more important then the short term effects, as they can rewrite history the way they want. I'd say he's certain Roman will be over eventually, and then he'll have a victory over Taker which the WWE will never let anyone forget.
Roman at this point could still be saved with a heel turn. But "face" Roman going over Taker would be some shit he'd never escape
they seem to think if he keeps winning the big one, he'll get over.
like, completely ignoring reality and a million other factors that would tell you it's a terrible idea. just like winning the rumble that daniel bryan got tossed out of earlier in the night.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
While I understand some AJ fans are upset he lost, are people still seriously saying Cena has to be carried to a good match?
I know I'll be wrong but dammit Vince please.
I'm honestly desperate that this is going to result in a Roman heel turn. It's the perfect opponent to do it against. Roman tries and tries, but he just can't defeat Undertaker. At the end after Taker has pinned him, the crowd is lured into thinking Taker is about to raise his hand and pass a torch only for Roman to spear him.
I know I'll be wrong but dammit Vince please.
Wining a Rumble is the worst way to randomly push someone. You have to actually build them up somewhat and then have them win to cap it off, the the Mania journey story is the icing.
Braun should have been in the final four.
I mean, his schtick was cute. He seems fine. But I'm guessing it'll get boring very quickly, because it'll probably happen every match, yeah?
I'm more concerned with Jillian Hall's growth. I can't believe you guys kept watching. >_>
Conrad Link
Member
Vince probably calls him late at night, crying into the phone, "Why wont they just cheer for him Mark? I don't understand it! We sacrifice years of stories and careers and still nothing."
Undertaker replies "FFS Vince I'll get him over." just to shut him up.
Put him in with one of the most beloved wrestlers in the companies history?? What do you mean the crowd is boo'ing him still???? I thought they'd love seeing him beat UT, and at WM!
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURH
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Undertaker replies "FFS Vince I'll get him over." just to shut him up.
Put him in with one of the most beloved wrestlers in the companies history?? What do you mean the crowd is boo'ing him still???? I thought they'd love seeing him beat UT, and at WM!
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURH
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pretty much this.
The only way now Vince can think of getting guys over is records and number/streak storylines.
I would have taken Braun winning over Randy.
What I mean is that they have a ton of young guys they are trying to prove are legitimate headliners. It's the NEW ERA after all which they love to hammer home. Why the fuck do you give Randy Orton that spot instead? Honestly Bray should have won the Rumble IMO.
Yuuuuuup.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
They should have had Bray win.
That way at Wrestlemania Bray would get the win and his first world title. But oh-no, we gotta give the title and rumble win to the guy who's already won a rumble and main evented a Wrestlemania before.
That way at Wrestlemania Bray would get the win and his first world title. But oh-no, we gotta give the title and rumble win to the guy who's already won a rumble and main evented a Wrestlemania before.
FUCKING THIS
I can honestly picture Orton winning the belt, then hotshotting it around a few times for a year with various people but keeping in the picture, belt gets vacated for some reason and Orton V Cena to be the first EVER 17-time champ is booked.
Or just FUCK IT, both at 16 and Roman is the champ and goes over both.
Or just FUCK IT, both at 16 and Roman is the champ and goes over both.
Absolute truth right here.
The Rumble is a great opportunity to give someone The Push. Instead, over the past few years it's been a handjob to the company guy.
Disagree Guy
Member
I thought it had leaked that Samoe Joe was going to win this?
Plans Change
TarpitCarnivore
Member
NJPW World put up a list of Bullet Club matches to watch http://njpwworld.com/c/t_0000_2015_49
Nocturnowl
Member
Well almost, he did the trip to Mania and instead jobbed to Trips for some baffling reason, then just won the belt the next month anyway.
This time it's the REAL DEAL!
BewareTheBatsie
Member
And what the hell was up with the Goldberg-Lesnar story progression? It was great to see Lesnar squashed again but why should people care for a rematch between them now?
I know Brock is allegedly meant to work a lot of Raw's now so we'll have some story which is probably going to equal him squashing half the roster, but it's basically fucking nothing.
WWE need to go with some story that all of the defeats and conquering made Brock cocky which is why he lost so quickly and then the Road To Wrestlemania is How Brock Got His Groove Back to try and make it credible for him to fight Goldberg.
Also we talk about Taker looking out of a shape and rightfully so but for a dude ten years younger then Taker and Goldberg, Brock looked flabby last night.
I know Brock is allegedly meant to work a lot of Raw's now so we'll have some story which is probably going to equal him squashing half the roster, but it's basically fucking nothing.
WWE need to go with some story that all of the defeats and conquering made Brock cocky which is why he lost so quickly and then the Road To Wrestlemania is How Brock Got His Groove Back to try and make it credible for him to fight Goldberg.
Also we talk about Taker looking out of a shape and rightfully so but for a dude ten years younger then Taker and Goldberg, Brock looked flabby last night.
shanafan
Member
What this past weekend taught me...
Sanity has AMAZING entrance music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyin5g0c3XU
Sanity has AMAZING entrance music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyin5g0c3XU
Fine thank you. And yours?
That'll happen when you take yourself off the PED regiment you've been on for a while.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Yep and it completely ignores the fact that that's part of why people don't like him; they keep giving him all these accolades and it's really transparent why.
More fool them.
Brock probably doesn't give a fuck, honestly.
Nocturnowl
Member
Bork jobbing to Dadberg again was great, having him come in and tear shit up only to get Goldbergered yet again really hits home the point that ol' Bergy has his number, effectively Lesnar's kryptonite and thus he should ideally be on the damn war path on the way to Mania in order to exorcise his biggest demon.
Of course the actual build will be some boring Heyman promos but oh well.
Of course the actual build will be some boring Heyman promos but oh well.
Yep
In the WWE kayfabe the crowd is always behind Roman. Just like that bs of recap that they made when Jericho won the US belt
At the Raw after Mania they gonna show some people cheering when Roman wins (or sad if he loses) and, winning or losing, they gonna talk how he looks strong
slightconfuse
Banned
LOL sweet baby Jesus
252 TIMES IN A LIFETIME COMIN' UP.
But I do think this would be around their 20th title match against each other.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Yes to both.
I don't buy him as a monster when he looks that way. When he's big but in shape, I get it but not when he looks the way he did last night.
Fuck me Cena has a 81.3% win rate in his matches with Orton?
252 TIMES IN A LIFETIME COMIN' UP.
Roman's turning. OR ELSE HILARITY.
My money is on hilarity. Vince McMahon's booking is like Donald Trump running the country. At least we can laugh at WWE-related buffoonery.
252 TIMES IN A LIFETIME COMIN' UP.
Cena: 204 wins over Orton
Orton: 42 wins over Cena
We should all be excited for the resolution
Conrad Link
Member
If they're just going with an old guy why not give Jericho the rub? At least he hasn't won it before.
Even if stupid Vince HAS to have face vs heel it can work.
Have him vs Owens at WM and going on about how he honestly feels like it's amazing that 2 friends get to wrestle the main event of WM but at the end of the night regardless of who wins they're still both champion!!!
But Owens is shifty eye not feeling the same way, he only liked them both being champ when it was actually him as champ not the other way round so he turns on Jericho for being a dick and wanting for vs him.
Even if stupid Vince HAS to have face vs heel it can work.
Have him vs Owens at WM and going on about how he honestly feels like it's amazing that 2 friends get to wrestle the main event of WM but at the end of the night regardless of who wins they're still both champion!!!
But Owens is shifty eye not feeling the same way, he only liked them both being champ when it was actually him as champ not the other way round so he turns on Jericho for being a dick and wanting for vs him.
I wanted Jericho to win so badly when the choices were dwindled down.
Achievements and belts and foolish wrasslin' nonsense do not matter in sports-entertainment. We're telling stories. Really bad stories.
Disagree Guy
Member
I think the problem is that they did this with Cena. For ages he was massively booed and it all culminated at the ECW one night stand against RVD. Cena was generating massive heel heat around that time. Hell even Edge was started to get cheered over Cena.
Then all of a sudden he started getting cheered (still boos) but mostly he was 'over'
I have a theory that Vince is pushing Roman because he thinks he'll follow the Cena route and simply get 'over' with enough pushing.
252 TIMES IN A LIFETIME COMIN' UP.
251 matches?! That's ridiculous.
Aren't you just dying to see a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rematch??