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Japan Travel |OT| One does simply not visit just once

Hypnotoad

Member
Flying to Nagoya from Shanghai next week, first time in Japan. I guess I will stay there for two days and then go to Kyoto. Dunno if my budget allows me to visit Tokyo, since this is just a small spontaneous trip before my summer holiday starts proper next months.

If I stay for five days alltogether, would two days in Nagoya and three in Kyoto make sense?
 

Piggus

Member
Just got my plane ticket. Going to Japan with my gf from September 12th to the 26th. My best friend is teaching English just outside of Hiroshima, so we'll be spending a bit of time with him. But we're getting two-weak bullet train passes so that we can visit other cities too. Definitely going to Tokyo Disneyland. But beyond that our plans are mostly open!
 
just trying to finalise my budget, 10,000 yen a day should be ample spending money right (just food, basic site seeing and transport, do have a separate pool of spending money for buying stuff).
 
Flying to Nagoya from Shanghai next week, first time in Japan. I guess I will stay there for two days and then go to Kyoto. Dunno if my budget allows me to visit Tokyo, since this is just a small spontaneous trip before my summer holiday starts proper next months.

If I stay for five days alltogether, would two days in Nagoya and three in Kyoto make sense?

Makes sense to me.


just trying to finalise my budget, 10,000 yen a day should be ample spending money right (just food, basic site seeing and transport, do have a separate pool of spending money for buying stuff).

Should be. Unless you plan to eat at really expensive places.
 

Thriller

Member
I see you went to Sensoji Temple, akihabara, Tokyo Skytree and Tsukiji fish market.

Did you go to the Tsukiji Market tuna fish auction? I had to go there at 00:00 just before the subway closed and wait for almost 6 hours to see that. At 00:30 there was already 100 people waiting to see the auction (I was scheduled for the 2nd group). They allow a maximum of 120 people.

Yeah that's right! No we didn't go the the auction because we live near a fish market ourselves so we kind of know the drill, plus we didnt want to wait that long.

In my opinion the fish market itself has enough to see so I do not feel as if I missed out on anything.

There are a couple of new pictures in the album for those who are interested :)
 
Anyone have any idea when or how I can buy tickets for TGS? Do I have to be there to buy tickets for things or can I order it online?
 

kubus

Member
How does booking Shinkansen work? Might go from Tokyo to Kyoto in August for a few days. I guess it's summer vacation then, do they usually get booked full in that period? (if I can't get a seat I might not bother...)
 
How does booking Shinkansen work? Might go from Tokyo to Kyoto in August for a few days. I guess it's summer vacation then, do they usually get booked full in that period? (if I can't get a seat I might not bother...)

Just go to the manned JR ticket office in one of the bigger stations and get tickets.

Edit: If you can navigate this page, then you can get discount tickets online:
http://www.jrtours.co.jp/kodama/tokyo.html

Or for offline:
http://www.jrtours.co.jp/kodama/en/

But they're only for Kodama trains that takes about 4 hours instead of the faster ones that takes 3 hours or so.


If you don't mind flying, then it could also be cheaper than taking the Shinkansen with some of the discount airlines:
http://www.flypeach.com/home.aspx

http://www.jetstar.com/jp/en/home
 
Damn, Sakai's place was way cheaper than that!
Whats Sakai's place? Only one I could find info on was Kobe's restaurant. Wouldn't mind tracking down Chen's as well.

Also I think JTB is going to fuck me over on the Studio Ghibli ticket I booked >.< I booked over a week ago on the 2nd, in the email it aid they will be in touch in 2 working days to confirm my date I choose. Over a week later and haven't heard anything, checked the site and the 5th is gone :/ Hoping I'm still good but worried they haven't been in touch or anything. Have sent them an email asking whats up and will call on Monday if I don't hear back.

Out of everything I want to do there, Ghibli Museum is number 1. Would be gutted if I missed that. Might have to ask Gromph who offered a few pages back to get me some if I'm having troubles.
 

kubus

Member
Just go to the manned JR ticket office in one of the bigger stations and get tickets.

Edit: If you can navigate this page, then you can get discount tickets online:
http://www.jrtours.co.jp/kodama/tokyo.html

Or for offline:
http://www.jrtours.co.jp/kodama/en/

But they're only for Kodama trains that takes about 4 hours instead of the faster ones that takes 3 hours or so.


If you don't mind flying, then it could also be cheaper than taking the Shinkansen with some of the discount airlines:
http://www.flypeach.com/home.aspx

http://www.jetstar.com/jp/en/home
Thanks for all the info! Very helpful!

Whats Sakai's place? Only one I could find info on was Kobe's restaurant. Wouldn't mind tracking down Chen's as well.

Also I think JTB is going to fuck me over on the Studio Ghibli ticket I booked >.< I booked over a week ago on the 2nd, in the email it aid they will be in touch in 2 working days to confirm my date I choose. Over a week later and haven't heard anything, checked the site and the 5th is gone :/ Hoping I'm still good but worried they haven't been in touch or anything. Have sent them an email asking whats up and will call on Monday if I don't hear back.

Out of everything I want to do there, Ghibli Museum is number 1. Would be gutted if I missed that. Might have to ask Gromph who offered a few pages back to get me some if I'm having troubles.
I tried reserving tickets for Ghibli last week at Lawson and every single day and every single time slot in July was full! I had no idea it was this popular. I think reservations opened for August today so I'm gonna check tomorrow at a Lawson again and try to get a spot in August. I would be super bummed as well if I had to miss out on the Ghibli Museum...
 
Whats Sakai's place? Only one I could find info on was Kobe's restaurant. Wouldn't mind tracking down Chen's as well.

http://www.la-rochelle.co.jp/english/


I tried reserving tickets for Ghibli last week at Lawson and every single day and every single time slot in July was full! I had no idea it was this popular. I think reservations opened for August today so I'm gonna check tomorrow at a Lawson again and try to get a spot in August. I would be super bummed as well if I had to miss out on the Ghibli Museum...

Yeah, the July and August tickets used a lottery system. Hopefully there'll be some left for August. General ticket sales for August should have opened today.
 

kubus

Member
Yeah, the July and August tickets used a lottery system. Hopefully there'll be some left for August. General ticket sales for August should have opened today.
Oh crap, I didn't know they had a lottery. Maybe I should've went to Lawson today...
Oh no, sounds like I might not be able to get a ticket :(

Does someone in this thread want to try and get a couple for me for August :/?
I would but I'm deep in red numbers this month and living from borrowed money. I think you pay directly at Lawson after reserving the tickets and I'm not really financially able to pay up front for others :(...
 
Oh crap, I didn't know they had a lottery. Maybe I should've went to Lawson today...

The lottery for August was in June. Winners were notified yesterday. Whatever's left over of tickets should be on sale from today.

If you really really want to go and it's sold out then you could buy a ticket from scalpers on yahoo auctions.
 

dani_dc

Member
Yeah, the July and August tickets used a lottery system. Hopefully there'll be some left for August. General ticket sales for August should have opened today.

Damn really?
Me and a few friends wanted to go on the 9th.
Damn, I better check it tomorrow.

Is there any guide on how to buy it?
 

kubus

Member
Damn really?
Me and a few friends wanted to go on the 9th.
Damn, I better check it tomorrow.

Is there any guide on how to buy it?

You go to a Lawson and use the Loppi machine to reserve tickets. There's some English instructions on this page: http://www.lawson.co.jp/ghibli/museum/ticket/english.html

What time slot are you going for? Because I was thinking about going on the 9th as well with a friend, haha. (could also be the 8th though)

Awesome pictures btw, Thriller!
 

dani_dc

Member
You go to a Lawson and use the Loppi machine to reserve tickets. There's some English instructions on this page: http://www.lawson.co.jp/ghibli/museum/ticket/english.html

What time slot are you going for? Because I was thinking about going on the 9th as well with a friend, haha. (could also be the 8th though)

Awesome pictures btw, Thriller!
Thank you!

That's an amusing coincidence!
We'll try to go at the 10 am slot. Actually I'm going to head to Lawson now and see if they have it <.<

8th will be the One Piece Tower Tokyo Tower, though I suppose we might switch it around depending on he ticket situation at Ghibli.
 

kubus

Member
Thank you!

That's an amusing coincidence!
We'll try to go at the 10 am slot. Actually I'm going to head to Lawson now and see if they have it <.<

8th will be the One Piece Tower Tokyo Tower, though I suppose we might switch it around depending on he ticket situation at Ghibli.
Holy shit I didn't know about One Piece Tower Tokyo Tower, now I have another thing to do before I go back.....
 

dani_dc

Member
Yeah I think they're out of tickets for August since I got this screen:

YQkeqG9.jpg

Which didn't appear when I selected July.

Edit: So I'm told the above just means "don't scalp" so bit more hopeful.

Tried to buy the ticket for 9th August 10am anyway but got this message:


Which I assume means no tickets available.

If someone with actual knowledge of Japanese can correct/confirm my interpretation, that would be most appreciated.

Holy shit I didn't know about One Piece Tower Tokyo Tower, now I have another thing to do before I go back.....
Eheh.
There was advertising everywhere when I got here, was impossible to miss on it.

Sounds like you have quite a few things planned out to do before returning.
I'm mostly just going along the ride with other coworker's and the opportunities that appear.

Should be hitting Mount Takao this Sunday and then Disney Sea the day after!
 

StMeph

Member
Are tickets printed at the kiosk, or claimed in person at the Museum? Basically I'm wondering if it's possible/practical to buy them scalped.
 
Which I assume means no tickets available.

If someone with actual knowledge of Japanese can correct/confirm my interpretation, that would be most appreciated.

I ran it through google translate, the app has a function where you can take a photo of Japanese text and it translates it.

Google translate spit out: Ticket customers became apply for was sold out. In other types of seat please apply
 

kubus

Member
If someone with actual knowledge of Japanese can correct/confirm my interpretation, that would be most appreciated.

Eheh.
There was advertising everywhere when I got here, was impossible to miss on it.

Sounds like you have quite a few things planned out to do before returning.
I'm mostly just going along the ride with other coworker's and the opportunities that appear.

Should be hitting Mount Takao this Sunday and then Disney Sea the day after!
Yep like UppercaseN already deciphered, it says the tickets are sold out and you should try another day/time.

And yay you're going to climb Mount Takao! That's not too far from where I'm at. If you're going by train, look outside the window when you stop at Hino and see the dreadfull hill I have to climb every freaking time I use the train. And what a shitty place it is in general, haha.

Also, have fun at Disney Sea! Best park I've ever been to. Don't forget to bookmark this link for realtime waiting times / fast pass times: http://tokyodisneyresort.info/smartPhone/realtime.php?park=sea&order=

(I hope you can read katakana :p)

Are tickets printed at the kiosk, or claimed in person at the Museum? Basically I'm wondering if it's possible/practical to buy them scalped.
You get a paper receipt from the Loppi machine at Lawson (where you'll also pay), and then exchange that for a real entrance ticket at the Ghibli Museum (according to their site). So yes it is possible to buy scalped tickets. Be aware that the warning that Dani posted above does say that they also refuse visitors who bring scalped tickets, though I have no idea how they would find out and if they really care enough.
 
Tried to buy the ticket for 9th August 10am anyway but got this message:

Which I assume means no tickets available.

Damn. You could try again on Monday. If you're really lucky, then somebody who entered the lottery by phone and not on the internet didn't answer in time when they called back. Really tiny chance though :p



You get a paper receipt from the Loppi machine at Lawson (where you'll also pay), and then exchange that for a real entrance ticket at the Ghibli Museum (according to their site). So yes it is possible to buy scalped tickets. Be aware that the warning that Dani posted above does say that they also refuse visitors who bring scalped tickets, though I have no idea how they would find out and if they really care enough.

You use the Loppi ticket to enter and then you get an admission ticket (which has 3 film frames from a Ghibli movie on it) to the Saturn Theater which you can only enter once. They only stamp the Saturn Theater ticket, so you get to keep it.
 

dani_dc

Member
I ran it through google translate, the app has a function where you can take a photo of Japanese text and it translates it.

Google translate spit out: Ticket customers became apply for was sold out. In other types of seat please apply

Ah thanks! That's what I figured.

And yay you're going to climb Mount Takao! That's not too far from where I'm at. If you're going by train, look outside the window when you stop at Hino and see the dreadfull hill I have to climb every freaking time I use the train. And what a shitty place it is in general, haha.

Also, have fun at Disney Sea! Best park I've ever been to. Don't forget to bookmark this link for realtime waiting times / fast pass times: http://tokyodisneyresort.info/smartPhone/realtime.php?park=sea&order=

(I hope you can read katakana :p)

That's the plan anyway, people want to do it but now I need to actually get them to go <.<
Did you get to climb it yet?

I'll be sure to look away and squint to try and see you at the hill!

Talking of Hino, the Tama Zoo is near by right?
A friend of mine went there and said it was worth going, so I was considering stopping by there at some point if I have the time, do you have any thoughts on the place?

Thanks for the link!
I can read Katakana!...Sort of, it'd be easier it was hiragana, Katakana annoys me.

Just found out you can see Ghibli Museum ticket availability online through this link (click yellow button, scroll down and click the right month).

Those who wanted to go in August... Yeah, you can forget about it unless you go Yahoo Auction hunting.

That's a bummer, I delayed going there to August to go with my friends :(

All the more reason to figure out a way to stay longer.
 

Hagi

Member
Anyone have any experience with duty free? I bought a bunch of gunpla and stuff at sofmap and they stapled a little receipt into my passport but now what? Do I have to keep the stuff in my hand luggage or is it okay to put them in my suitcase, I take it they check to see if you have the stuff.

Been here since last Friday and had a fantastic time but looking forward to getting back to my tiny Scottish town lol
 
Was able to get everything sorted out with JTB, wasn't able to get the 5th for Ghibli like I wanted but now have it looked in for the 8th, so will just need to leave from the Inokashira Park Zoo for the Robot Restaurant for the meet up thingo.
 

dani_dc

Member
Was able to get everything sorted out with JTB, wasn't able to get the 5th for Ghibli like I wanted but now have it looked in for the 8th, so will just need to leave from the Inokashira Park Zoo for the Robot Restaurant for the meet up thingo.

We're having a new meet-up?
 

dani_dc

Member
So went up Mount Takao yesterday.

The first route was pretty accessible, the pah was entirely paved, with ample of space and protections on the sides.
The start can be rough due to the very high inclination, but when you get to the area with the funicular and ropeway there's very little climbing, and most it is done via stairs. That's where all the Temples were at too.
So if you don't want to do much climbing you can just skip the majority of it by using one of the means of transportation offered and still see the temples and then head to the summit.

Route 1

Summit:

599.15m said:
No I'm not sweating that much, I just put my head under water when I got to the top due to the heat.

Going down we took route 4 until half way down, and then Route 1 again for the lower half. We wanted to check the bridge and then do another route, but the bridge
Route 4 felt more like actual hiking, with no paving or side protections, somewhat narrow paths, lots of roots and the ground/wood could be slippery.

Route 4



On a more personal level, unfortunately I didn't sleep much due to stress and was having an anxiety attack due to that, ended up taking an anti-anxiety medicine on the train to Takao, which helped but didn't make away with the anxiety, and unfortunately due to this I couldn't really eat much at all, all this circumstances were likely the reason why I was also having a headache.
I considered going back while at the train but ultimately I decided to try and see how I felt after I started moving, the best way to defeat anxiety and panic attacks is to abstract your mind, and I was hoping that the trip up would do so.

So that was my biggest challenge going up the mountain, thankfully I was in somewhat better shape than I thought (even if far far away from ideal), so it went fine. I was a bit worried when I realized that Route 4 was actual hiking, so I had to take extra care there, but thankfully everything went well.

I would had liked to check some of the other routes, but since I wasn't in the best conditions I decided to leave it to next time. Thankfully the people with me were also tired so it wasn't hard to convince them to skip doing some extra routes.

So while I consider Takao a very accessible climb, and even though it might not have been the best of ideas to have climb it in those conditions, I'm extremely happy that I actually went ahead and did it, and I think it was an important step for helping me dealing with my anxiety issues going forward.

Overall I would say that Takao is an accessible climb (as long as you stick with Route 1), with the biggest challenge being the high level of inclination of the first 30 minutes, but since those can be skipped I would say most anyone can go up to the very top of Takao, even if it means having to skip halfway of the route. I'm interest in going back and checking some of the other routes, but at a time where I'm having a better day.

Yeah 8th of October at the Robot Restraunt, I think MikeHattsu and myself are going at this stage, maybe others.

Ah, I was thinking 8th of next month.

If I can extend my stay in Japan I'll probably join you guys, otherwise I hope you guys have a lot of fun!
 

Trace

Banned
So I'm going to Japan in August, staying for 21 days. How much money do you guys think per day would be a solid amount for food + basic spending money? Mostly going to be in Tokyo.
 
Hey Japan travelling GAF, just want to ask if, on average, would 30000 yen be enough of a food budget (3 meals a day) for 7 days (Osaka - Kyoto - Tokyo)? Thanks.

That's slightly on the low end if you're doing 3 meals a day I think. 40K JPY might be more of a flexible budget.


So I'm going to Japan in August, staying for 21 days. How much money do you guys think per day would be a solid amount for food + basic spending money? Mostly going to be in Tokyo.

Food + transportation maybe around 8K JPY a day if you need 3 meals a day. Around 6K if you just do breakfast and dinner.
 

Trace

Banned
That's slightly on the low end if you're doing 3 meals a day I think. 40K JPY might be more of a flexible budget.




Food + transportation maybe around 8K JPY a day if you need 3 meals a day. Around 6K if you just do breakfast and dinner.

Damn that much? Do meals cost 2000 yen on average or something?
 
Damn that much? Do meals cost 2000 yen on average or something?

You said a solid amount :p

You'll need to buy bottles of drink that are about 100-200 JPY each, unless you bring your own bottle and drink tap water all the time. Should be about 2-4 of those a day.

Breakfast would be about 500-1000 JPY

Lunch would be 1000-1500 JPY

Dinner about 1500-3000 JPY

Transportation would be 500-1500 JPY each day if you're staying within the city.
 

dani_dc

Member
Damn that much? Do meals cost 2000 yen on average or something?

You said a solid amount :p

You'll need to buy bottles of drink that are about 100-200 JPY each, unless you bring your own bottle and drink tap water all the time. Should be about 2-4 of those a day.

Breakfast would be about 500-1000 JPY

Lunch would be 1000-1500 JPY

Dinner about 1500-3000 JPY

Transportation would be 500-1500 JPY each day if you're staying within the city.

If you really want to save money, you can easily eat Lunch and Dinner for about 500-1000 JPY per day, plenty of cheap restuarants around (particulalry chain ones like Sukiya and Matsuya, where you can eat decent meals for those prices) or Bento's (500 yen for a full meal).

Also don't order drinks, those are what really rises the prices, stick with the free water glasses.

I've been surviving with 1500-2200JPY yen a day for meals for months now that way, including breakfast (200-300 yen), Lunch (400-700), Dinner(400-700), something in between those two (200-300 yen) and something before sleeping(200-300 yen).
 
OK so potential idea time for my trip now.

Given I've had to move the day I go to Ghibli and the Park Zoo, I now have on my schedule 3 days in a row. Something I've wanted to do since I find out about it in Japan is go to the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum. I'm a huge fan of Dinosaurs and the place looks freaking awesome. Really really want to go check it out. Now the catch is its just over 5 hours away from Tokyo by train.

So I could go to it now, possibly spend a day out that way and then travel back to Tokyo, but I did want 3 days free in Tokyo to do some extra things. The other option I have is travel out there really early in the morning and then travel back as late as I can. But 11 hours on various trains on one day would be tiring.

If I had an extra day in Osaka would def do the day trip up to Fukui to hit is up, but time is tight in Osaka for me.

Anyone checked out the Dino Museum, is it as good as I'm thinking or just building it up.

Also awesome thing I found out about it, you go walk through the whole Museum via Google Maps street view

https://www.google.com/maps/place/〒...x5ff89af3546bd879:0x55d1ff4a7646b4e1?hl=en-US

^_^
 
If you really want to save money, you can easily eat Lunch and Dinner for about 500-1000 JPY per day, plenty of cheap restuarants around (particulalry chain ones like Sukiya and Matsuya, where you can eat decent meals for those prices) or Bento's (500 yen for a full meal).

Also don't order drinks, those are what really rises the prices, stick with the free water glasses.

I've been surviving with 1500-2200JPY yen a day for meals for months now that way, including breakfast (200-300 yen), Lunch (400-700), Dinner(400-700), something in between those two (200-300 yen) and something before sleeping(200-300 yen).

Once again, he did say a solid amount ;P

I would think one would like to try as many different dishes as possible when there on vacation as well, not just have beef bowl and curry rice all the time. It's a bit different if you live there of course.
 

dani_dc

Member
Once again, he did say a solid amount ;P

I would think one would like to try as many different dishes as possible when there on vacation as well, not just have beef bowl and curry rice all the time. It's a bit different if you live there of course.

Well, "solid" can mean different things for different people :p

You can eat 5-6 pieces of sushi for around 600-700 yen as well, not just beef bowl and curry rice!

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing with your point of view, was just adding a different perspective so he doesn't worry about starving while over here.
 
Finally booked a hotel for Osaka. Not a luxury hotel, but figured I'd do something a little "modern" to make up for slumming it up with a few GAFers on the first leg of the journey. Also, its literally right on top of the Shin-Osaka station, so that should make it pretty convenient.

http://www.remm.jp/shinosaka/
 
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