remember_spinal
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He also said most of last year that he hasn't heard of any showcase for playstation after september and he was right
[Jeff Grub] Playstation Showcase before E3: "Massive show that really sets up the second phase of the PlayStation 5"
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He also said most of last year that he hasn't heard of any showcase for playstation after september and he was right
Tiago Rodrigues
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Why are you talking as if Sony themselves said this? lmao
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
E3 2023 Start and End Dates, Publishers, and Schedule Predictions
E3 is back! Again! And nobody quite knows what to expect yet. But here's what we do know, along with some educated guesses.
There is an E3 in 2023, from June 13 to June 16. Ubisoft is one of the big publishers that have been confirmed to be there. Most other big publishers, however, are skipping it.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Helghan
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Let's be clear that I don't have a problem with what Sony released thus far. It's better than what Xbox did when you look at the total package.
I've got an issue with Jeff Grub calling it "Phase 2", when it's ridiculous to call what Sony released until now a "Phase 1", because compared to the heights of PS4, this was still a bit lacklustre.
SlimySnake
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Jeff said this state of play was going to be great.
He knows nothing about the internal state of Sony studios. Sony skipped the entire year last year. Of course they have stuff to show but when is it coming out? And what is it? 12 gaas games no one wants to play? More vr shovelware? A few single player games that won't come out until 2025-2027? Are we seriously expecting ssm, gg, nd to launch next Gen aaa games in 2023-2024 after shipping games in 2022?
He knows nothing about the internal state of Sony studios. Sony skipped the entire year last year. Of course they have stuff to show but when is it coming out? And what is it? 12 gaas games no one wants to play? More vr shovelware? A few single player games that won't come out until 2025-2027? Are we seriously expecting ssm, gg, nd to launch next Gen aaa games in 2023-2024 after shipping games in 2022?
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Heisenberg007
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Yeah, that's fine. I wasn't blaming that you were downplaying it against the Xbox lineup either.
However, by this point, PS4 didn't have nearly as many good games as PS5 has.
PS4 had: Resogun, Killzone Shadowfall, InFamous Second Son, Knack, The Order 1886, Bloodborne.
PS5 has: GoW Ragnarok, Spider-Man Miles Morales, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank, Astrobot, Horizon Forbidden West, GT 7, and more. I think PS5 first 2 years has killed it and has been one of the best ever.
yurinka
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I think that as usual Sony will make a show to announce or show the main games they have planned for the next year or year and a half (so at E3 will focus on 2023-2024 games), and that they'll focus on the ones to be released in the next 6-9 months (basically the H2 2023 games). They may have one or two games announced that could go a bit beyond that, almost 2 years from the event (H1 2025).
And as usual they'll add some indies and PSVR2 games on top.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Pasta la Vista
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All I really give a shit about is is Factions 2 or whatever they are going to call it. Need some info.
yurinka
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100% agree, I think he has no insider info abot this and that he's only guessing stuff.
A lot of people wanted to play MLB, GT7 and wants to play TLOU Online. Plus whatever new games Bungie will release soon. I'm also pretty sure people will want to play whatever Deviation, Haven, Firewalk, Guerrilla Bend and Insomniac have in store, plus Helldivers 2.
Maybe not 2023, but 2024 seems likely. These studios now have multiple teams and they have been working on unannounced games for many years.
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SSfox
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Yeah they're releasing much more exclusives than the other companies, that's anti competition
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Thirty7ven
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You can tell things are bad on the other side when small bit stuff like this gets them all riled up.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
Grubb never said the State of Play was going to be great for Sony exclusive games. 2024 exclusives of Final Fantasy 16, Spider-Man 2, Factions, and Steller Blade is pretty darn good. 2024 they for sure have Rise of Ronin, Final Fantasy 7 rebirth, Silent Hill 2 remake, new maybe Bluepoint game. 2025 will most likely be GOT2, Wolverine(could be 2024), and new ip Naughty dog have been working in since 2020(they have two teams). SSM new IP is probably 2026
Not to mention a bunch of recently acquired studios will have games releasing in that time frame as well. Sony is putting out much more content than they ever did on the PS4. What's to complain about?
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Perrott
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Cool, my predictions for it (assuming it airs around late May):
- The Last Of Us: Factions – November 2023
- The Last Of Us: Part II Remastered – June 2023
- Marvel's Spider-Man 2 – October 2023
- Stellar Blade – October 2023
- Helldivers 2 – August 2023
- Siren – September 2023
- Déraciné – June 2023
- Half-Life: Alyx – October 2023
- New IP (genDESIGN) – 2024
- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Remake – Early 2024
- Silent Hill: The Short Message – Available Now
- Ace Combat 8 – November 2023
- Pragmata – January 2024
- New IP (Swizzle Kiss) – September 2023
- Little Devil Inside – July 2023
- Final Fantasy XVI – June 22nd, 2023 (Demo Available Now)
- Final Fantasy VII Rebirth – Early 2024
- Twisted Metal – Early 2024
- Rise of the Ronin – Spring 2024
- New IP (Firewalk Studios) – Spring 2024
- Marvel's Wolverine – 2024
- Death Stranding 2 – 2024
- New IP (FromSoftware) – 2024
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Badlucktroll
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THE RETURN OF METAL GEAR
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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I mean, I would hope so.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Ass of Can Whooping
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PS4 phase 1 was dawgshit the fuck are you talking about. Bloodborne carried them
AcrosstheSea
Banned
I just want to see FF7 Rebirth. I imagine it could show up there because it is a PS5 exclusive title and April 10th is the anniversary of the original remakes release which is before E3.
But when was the last time they did a big show, 2 years ago? Just because some of the SoP turned out being good, doesn't mean they made any effort to make a big show
Maybe Sony really learned their lesson with that absolutely awful E3'18 when they interrupted the show so they could move people from one place to another to hear flute-man with Ghost of Tsushima behind him
No excuses for the lastest SoP tho, was bad (not all tho), but at the same maybe it had to be done bacause Sony have the marketing for Suicide Squad, RE4 and SF6, so they were forced to made the whole SoP around those games and to push VR because they know damn well people will whine if VR takes time out of a big showcase
tmlDan
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I feel like the hyperbole about the state of play would have been quashed if Suicide Squad wasn't looking like a generic ass game.
I don't blame Sony for that when they thought it would be better lol
Really looking forward to the next stage of the PS5, it's the phase with fully current gen games leaving the PS4 behind.
I don't blame Sony for that when they thought it would be better lol
Really looking forward to the next stage of the PS5, it's the phase with fully current gen games leaving the PS4 behind.
Beastclaw Raider
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Just want to know rebirth's fucking release date
touchfuzzy
Member
Right? It's crazy that Square has more exclusive AAA PS5 games announced right now than Sony first party does.
tmlDan
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We need more of this mentality, I actually think Nintendo might have the weakest year regardless of the Zelda release.
When i say weakest i don't mean they suck lol
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Realistically, Sony have to be considering their path forwards should the ABK buyout complete. They may need to pivot somewhat towards a new situation where they are more like Nintendo than Xbox insofar as they trade on a more distinct emphasis on platform exclusive product.
In that respect a "phase 2" scenario isn't especially unlikely. Partnering with big-name (or even formerly big-name in the case of Konami) Japanese publishers who have a track-record with Playstation and using them to fill in the gaps between first-party tentpoles seems like a smart way of differentiating themselves from the competition. Especially when MS seems to be pursuing the same western-centric type of product that they did so well with in the 360 era.
In that respect a "phase 2" scenario isn't especially unlikely. Partnering with big-name (or even formerly big-name in the case of Konami) Japanese publishers who have a track-record with Playstation and using them to fill in the gaps between first-party tentpoles seems like a smart way of differentiating themselves from the competition. Especially when MS seems to be pursuing the same western-centric type of product that they did so well with in the 360 era.
Ammogeddon
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Phase 2?
I still feel like we're in the prologue.
I still feel like we're in the prologue.
FeralEcho
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Ah yes...because there is nothing that would make me think Sony is pretentious enough to copy a known formula and phrasing and say something as dumb as that...nothing at all...
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MasterCornholio
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About Elden Ring.
I hated the mechanics of final boss so much that I couldn't beat the game. I hated running across half the map just to attack him.
silent head
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mckmas8808
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33 million PS5s sold and you don't think the first phase even started?
TheGodfather07
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I knew sony were waiting for the stock issues to be resolved before doing a proper show. The marketing has gone up too. It's almost like PS5 launched again holiday 2022.
mckmas8808
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They are already do that with Square, Capcom, and Konami.
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touchfuzzy
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No, I don't. Sony's exclusive first party support of the console has been abysmal, we've yet to see them fully commit to their new platform. I could've easily made it this far in life rocking a PS4 without playing a 3 hour Astrobot game and a 12 hour Ratchet and Clank game. They've ensured that there's zero chance I will be a day one or even early adopter for Playstation 6 whenever that comes.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
mmm no really.
pandemic + longer time to develop AAA games. (with mind-blowing graphics)
good for you. You are not the market.
Badlucktroll
Member
From Konami i am expecting a deluge of Silent Hill (we already know about this) some kind of Metal Gear remake or remakes, and an original new Castlevania.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
What does this have to do with phases? You're just reaching right now, lmao.
HeisenbergFX4
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Badlucktroll
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I also hope to see a new bungie title that would have a single player campaign
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Oh so you're one of "those" people that don't count cross-gen games. Gotcha!
TheGodfather07
Member
What Sony should have done was make exclusives for a console that barely existed! That's good business!
Seriously, how stupid are some people? Anyone with a brain can understand why cross gen went on for so long. Finding a PS5 was a full time job and has only just got better these last few months.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
With Square, absolutely. Capcom are I think more independent and fluid (more co-marketing than true exclusivity outside of VR stuff), and Konami have been AWOL for years.
I'm thinking more along the lines of scenarios where third-party product is treated like second-party; as in no console SKU's outside of Playstation for an extended period or even permanently. Basically making it so a certain franchise or IP is tied to the platform.
Konami's properties are particularly good candidates because they have lain fallow for years; for instance they pay for exclusivity on the SH2 remake with the idea being that although there are other related titles in the pipeline which may be multi-plat or even on mobile, by putting their branding on the most prominent title in the portfolio it all kinda feeds back to their ecosystem.
I think its fair to say that once a successful property becomes associated with a certain successful platform, its virtually impossible to reestablish it to the same extent outside of it. Tomb Raider springs to mind as a franchise that despite a considerable and sustained effort has never been as significant since it "left" Playstation.
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