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[KKRT00]

Thats outstading lol

 

[Chobel]

There are going to be confirmed sub-1080p games whenever they announce what BF4's resolution is.

BF4 is 900p in PS4 confirmed.

 

[Y2Kev]

Considering Deep Down is 60 FPS and given what it looks like, I bet that's 720p. DAT LIGHTING /annoying person OMG DAT LIGHTING

 

[Telephoto999]

I don't know shit about programming but is a patch even possible for such a drastic change? It would be like the the most game-altering patch in video game history.

If it's like PC gaming, it'd probably a configuration INI file sitting somewhere in the folder structure.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Could be this tech issues have something to do with the patch day 1 so eliminate the DRM restrictions?

Oh god, that would be priceless.

Considering Deep Down is 60 FPS and given what it looks like, I bet that's 720p. DAT LIGHTING /annoying person OMG DAT LIGHTING

Could be but backgrounds are more limited that was shown on the tech demo, I could see it being higher than 720p

 

[Y2Kev]

BF4 is 900p in PS4 confirmed.

for the record that is entirely my conjecture

 

[SniperHunter]

Can kagari or bishop post the info?

 

[Tripon]

Whoa whoa. Didn't someone say that the PS4 reviews were embargoed until the 5th and the XBOne's on the 12th? Both are 10 days away from their respective launches. I have a problem with embargoes in general, but I'm not seeing the conspiracy here if this is the case. Both companies have an embargo 10 days prior to their respective launches.

Reviews for COD: Ghosts are embargoed until Nov. 5th because that's when Ghosts launches. It has little to do with the date of the PS4 launch. That's why embargoing the XBox One's version makes little sense. People who are buying it on a new system would like to know how it runs on the XBox One, and MS pretending the XBone is a special little snowflake is annoying reviewers.

 

[Osiris]

Well, mortimer says that it's 1080p at present.

But you could certainly be right.

In any event, there will surely be sub-1080p games, and even 720p games, on the PS4 as well, depending on other development priorities and/or budgets for particular games. People who think everything is going to be 1080p are in for a rude awakening I imagine.

The interesting thing is, those future games that can only hit 720p on PS4, what is their Xbox One resolution going to be?

I dread to think.

 

[GeoramA]

OT but is Jeremy the ManaByte from GAF? I remember his Star Wars threads and swoon for the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=1452

Yup. Was banned over 5 years ago.

 

[hawk2025]

This man gets it.

The only way "resolution gate" matters is if 3rd party developers start coming out in droves forgoing the development of One versions of games. If we return to PS2-era volumes of exclusive software for Sony, then consumers will care.

Otherwise, the only people who will care are lurking or posting here. Lower visual fidelity relative to the competition didn't stop the Genesis, PS2, or Wii from selling in droves and being strong competitors...and at present there are fewer and fewer exclusive 3rd party games than in those generations past.

The GAF echo chamber is loud and entertaining, but feels out of touch. Sometimes too deep in the details many don't care strongly about. This is one of those times. Not to say that resolution and power differences aren't the base upon which many will decide which console to buy...but if it was *that* important, you'd probably be a PC gamer. If we see 3rd parties making more and more games PS4 exclusive this will be a big deal. Until then, multiplats -- which I think represent the largest segment of game sales (conjecture) -- will still be present and accounted for from all the franchises your average gamer these days want...while remaining the only place to play Gears, Halo and the rest for the forseeable future. That matters more than resolution, as much as it may bother some.

I swear this post could have been rewritten word for word with respect to the DRM announcements. In fact, it was, many times.

And here we are.

Time and again people underestimate the intelligence and preferences of the "average gamer".

 

[antitrop]

If the difference between the consoles is basically resolution, than is irrelevant for the mass market.

$100

 

[TimeEffect]

PM'd Bish and Kagari, heading out to the hospital for a bit, hopefully I check out this time.

Wait, if you're headed to the hospital, can we get an ETA on when you're coming back to post? Because I want to go to bed :'(

 

[Faustek]

This thread...man some people should start a new religion and hen they did I bet many would join them
Never before have I've seen people twist facts to suit their world order.

 

[Step]

Are you suggesting he's wrong? please, elaborate.

I guess because on a race you go in circles.

 

[Dawg]

guys

will playstation be king again this gen

pls

 

[Skeff]

Considering Deep Down is 60 FPS and given what it looks like, I bet that's 720p. DAT LIGHTING /annoying person OMG DAT LIGHTING

Oh yea Deep down is likely 720p. But we were talking confirmed or at least truthfact confirmed resolutions. Feel free to put it to rest on the BF4 res though

 

[qa_engineer]

Well, mortimer says that it's 1080p at present.

But you could certainly be right.

In any event, there will surely be sub-1080p games, and even 720p games, on the PS4 as well, depending on other development priorities and/or budgets for particular games. People who think everything is going to be 1080p are in for a rude awakening I imagine.

So long as there are more 1080p games than there are 900 and 720 p games then we can at least check off resolution as a clear improvement over the current generation consoles.

 

[RaikuHebi]

for the record that is entirely my conjecture

Thank goodness. You had us all on edge there for a minute.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Europe this week, North America next week.

Thanks, but it's not going to get rid of my sickness. God I feel ill, but I'm soldiering on!

 

[Dug]

PM'd Bish and Kagari, heading out to the hospital for a bit, hopefully I check out this time.

Damn, all the Admins get to know the cool shit. Guess us peasants gotta wait till launch.

 

[Iacobellis]

Considering Deep Down is 60 FPS and given what it looks like, I bet that's 720p. DAT LIGHTING /annoying person OMG DAT LIGHTING

Whoa, Deep Down is 60FPS? Holy shit, it seemed like 30 from the videos.

Never thought I'd be so hyped for a F2P.

 

[IvorB]

There is no upscaling taking place in The Order. It's outputting a 1080p image with black bars. This is identical to Blu Ray output. If you consider that Sub-HD then you also consider Blu Ray to be sub-HD, and that's silly. Especially since that aspect ratio was decided on extremely early into the game's development.

Different movies have different aspect ratios.

 

[Shadownet]

And she wasn't even winded. What an amazon. Brushed off the chairs thrown at her too...

She caught the damn chair that was thrown at her after the she threw the table! :O she must be Mr.T's daughter or something.

 

[ascii42]

If it's like PC gaming, it'd probably a configuration INI file sitting somewhere in the folder structure.

Well, the thought is that some engine optimizing will have to take place for performance to still be at an adequate level at the higher resolution.

 

[DeadlyVirus]

I don't know shit about programming but is a patch even possible for such a drastic change? It would be like the the most game-altering patch in video game history.

It is possible, but DF comparisions would just rip a new one regarding the performance (from the info have right now).

What I was saying is that IW probably play tested a 1080p version of the game and wasn't happy with the performance, so they chose to go with 720p

 

[BlazingDarkness]

looool

 

[eddfromtheriver]

Wait, if you're headed to the hospital, can we get an ETA on when you're coming back to post? Because I want to go to bed :'(

THIS. I have things to do dagnabbit!!!... i need closure!!!

 

[SnakeEyes]

Exactly. This will quickly become 'I heard PS4 games look better'.

That would make a great Twitter hashtag!

#iheardPS4gameslookbetter

 

[hohoXD123]

Is it because Xbone is submerged and drowning?



Maybe I am naive here, but I am sure that guys username was Astroturfing...maybe it's not to be taken seriously?

I dunno, I guess sarcasm is pretty hard to convey over the internet, especially considering how I've seen worse genuine fanboy posts than that.

 

[viveks86]

Why isn't this a bigger deal then? :/

It was. All 5 stages were crossed. But at the time, there were bigger issues to crib about... cough... DRM... cough. So people didn't dwell on it for too long.

 

[Surface of Me]

I swear this post could have been rewritten word for word with respect to the DRM announcements. In fact, it was, many times.

And here we are.

Time and again people underestimate the intelligence and preferences of the "average gamer".

Heh, the average consumer did know about DRM and stuff, but if you tried explaining all the resolution stuff to them, they'd likely just reply saying what resolution their TV is. Halo is more important to most than pixel difference in games.

 

[RaikuHebi]

Damn, all the Admins get to know the cool shit. Guess us peasants gotta wait till launch.

 

[bigboss370]

Can I? Or do I need to PM to get authorization?

you've been one of the best leakers this past year, do it!

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[SapientWolf]

Dude a 12 CU , 16 ROP, 1.3TFlop , 67GB/s card is god awful in the PC world. It was low-mid tier in 2009. A 100-120$ card.

The power of the X1 is not impressive at all. Not even in 2011 would it of been.

Please shut up if you dont know what your saying

........ 1.37 tflops = 7770/7850 = 6950

This reply is years late, but this thread is moving a mile a minute. Not sure if the numbers are up to date, but 16 ROPS, 48 Texture Units and 12 CUs would put it somewhere between the 7770 and 7790. Likely much closer to the 1.28 TFLOP GPU than the 1.79 TFLOP GPU.

Memory bandwidth is going to be dependent on how ESRAM is used, which could be another part of the reason why 1080p is out of reach. Worst case scenario is, well, this thread, pretty much. If the game runs like BLOPS 2, mid range 2009 GPUs (which IAmRandom31 was alluding to) and the PS4 will have no problems playing COD Ghosts maxed out at 1080p/60fps. Which is apparently something the One can't accomplish at this time.

 

[i-Lo]

Like how Uncharted 1 started off at 720p, then fell below 720p in Uncharted 2, again in Uncharted 3, and finally ended up at a significantly lower resolution than 720p in The Last of Us.

Oh wait.

"HD" started off with 720 Progressive and 1080p used to be known as Full HD. Unlike last gen, I very much doubt that any game will have a resolution below 720p on either platform. That said, given both resolutions are HD and everything in between is fair game, we may see Sony's first parties outputting titles that are below 1080p native, in the future.

 

[Iacobellis]

guys

will playstation be king again this gen

pls

Yes. 360 was a big fluke.

 

[ironcreed]

Bird droppings incoming?

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

PM'd Bish and Kagari, heading out to the hospital for a bit, hopefully I check out this time.

It just keeps getting better.

I wish NeoGAF were a stand-up comedian sometimes. Wonder what they'd look like?

 

[Fandangox]

Can someone edit this gif and make it relevant to the current events

 

[LiquidMetal14]

At this point it's no real argument whether or not the resolutions are the same but the strength and validity of CoD and BF4 being 1080p is all but assured.

We know CoD officially but all this info exchanging all but confirms some severe issues with Xbone.

 

[JP]

Isn't the "I blame MS" line a bit pointless? Who else could possibly be to blame?

 

[Wildstar75]

How old are you, 8? PS2 vs Xbox?

Too old I guess.... My memory must already be going. I felt like the PS2 was almost a generation before xbox, forgot they were separated by only one year. So good call. That was a huge difference. I don't count Wii and WiiU since they are not even trying.

 

[UNCMark]

It just keeps getting better.

I wish NeoGAF were a stand-up comedian sometimes. Wonder what they'd look like?

 

[frizby]

This thread...man some people should start a new religion and hen they did I bet many would join them
Never before have I've seen people twist facts to suit their world order.

Go on...

 

[SniperHunter]

Can someone edit this gif and make it relevant to the current events

This is funny

Where is it from???

 

[eddfromtheriver]

"HD" started off with 720 Progressive and 1080p used to be known as Full HD. Unlike last gen, I very much doubt that any game will have a resolution below 720p on either platform. That said, given both resolutions are HD and everything in between is fair game, we may see Sony's first parties outputting titles that are below 1080p native, in the future.

Somehow... i don't see that happening...

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

Fucking nailed it. All my cries.

 

[imt558]

BF4 is 900p in PS4 confirmed.

Who said that?

 

[Visualante2]

Isn't the "I blame MS" line a bit pointless? Who else could possibly be to blame?

"Lazy developers" remember when they were too feeble minded to harness the power of the Cell processor?