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Jewish Actress Winona Ryder Mel Gibson Is Anti-Semitic, Called me an Oven Dodger
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EricHasNoPull
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Ken Masters said:give Mel a break, or have you already forgotten?
I finally got to see this movie like three months ago and it was fucking EPIC!! JAGUAR! PAAAAAAAW!!!!
BaronLundi
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Dreams-Visions said:I got turned down by Hollywood? what manner of sorcery is this? lol, hardly. the point was pretty simple and required no special background in acting/entertainment to observe: connections in Hollywood are considerably more important than talent. the nature of the connections will vary (ethnicity, agent, friend's friend, someone's kid, etc.), but the bottom line is that in Entertainment connections are the most valuable commodity around.
If this is news to you, take it as news. If you thought you're seeing a collection of the best actors and actresses in Hollywood on your television screens just because they made it to your screen, you're laughably wrong and exceedingly gullible. Some are quite talented, of course, but you are seeing the best connected more than anything else. Sorry for the late reply, I just saw your unnecessarily teary rant.
oh hey, I knew nothing about them or the site creators' background and I stayed at the sight approximately long enough to copy and paste. it was just one of the first links that popped up in a quick search and I was in a hurry getting ready to head out to a movie. the goal was to find an answer to the question quickly and I figured GAF would parse the value of the link, which is why the links are provided in the first place. I laughed it off since I wasn't surprised that the source's information may not have been good and assumed someone would find more accurate information.
charge it to being in a rush, not to some strange motivation.
a bit sensitive, aren't we? oh well. and a hearty "fuck you to you too", good sir. In that Eddie Murphy "Coming To America" voice.
Nice backpedaling. :lol
I like how you avoid to use the word Jew, not even once, this time around and how suddenly what you said previously might just have been relating to other people than Jews.
Are you truly that ingenuous or just used to spinning things ?
Like all people making the "Jews own and control Hollywood and the media" speech, you're just appealing to a supposed obvious knowledge from which you infer other bullshit (they "own 2/3 the shit" (sic), that's why there are so many Jewish actors duh ! What other reason could it be ? Jews favor their own, it's a well know fact !). This kind of reasoning can be heard pretty much anywhere (we have plenty of it in Europe too) including in places where there are no Jews at all.
And if you don't see the problem in making a list of Jews, wherever it might come from (never mind the fact that you see no problem in such a list being at the same time the logical conclusion to your previous assertions and the evidence to back it up) I can't (nor really want to) help you.
Anyway I might have been too harsh with Mel Gibson.
It's true that he didn't only direct shitty movies. He acted in plenty too.
EricHasNoPull
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I like the Oven-Dodger Greeting cards you can order from U.D. kinda cute!! maybe I'll order some as Christmas cards.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Oven Dodger&defid=1114515
http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=Oven Dodger&defid=1114515
DeSo said:
Thats the best part of it. It could indeed be intended as a sexist comment. we shall never know but we know Mel fits both catgories so we can decide what he meant
Gotta say though it was a pretty calm drunk moment for him based on his love of blowjobs and wanting to burn down his own house
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Not the beer stein though?EricHasNoPull said:
gutter_trash
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not a typical Jewish decent
Ryder's mother is a Buddhist and her father is an atheist according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder
Ryder's mother is a Buddhist and her father is an atheist according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder
Barbacoatl
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I could eat her roast beef until the Moshiach returns.
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gutter_trash said:
Sounds pretty Jewish to me.
It's movies like this that make me turn a deaf ear stories of Mel Gibson's Drunk Shenanigans. So he's a bigot, so what, as long as he isn't hurting anybody (family members aside).....and keeps making Top 15 Movies of the decade like this smart-chase-action flick. The man's an excellent director, and that means a lot more to me than his thoughts and feelings on Jews: Worst Race or Worstest Race.Ken Masters said:give Mel a break, or have you already forgotten?
demon said:
This I agree with for the most part. I can seperate the man from his art. Quite a few people have no problem with seperating Polanski from his ass fucking little girls but when it comes to a Racist Drunk its so hard suddenly.
Gibson is an asshole no one is denying that but he is still a talented director and actor. I doubt many people would have much to watch if every celebrities dirty laundry came out.
faceless007
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Her recounting this is just one part of a much longer interview with GQ. The interview was going to be published no matter what she said. You think she arranged the interview and concocted a slanderous story about a high-profile person just to get back in the news?exarkun said:
MetalAlien
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neoanarch said:
She got painfully thin right after the trial. She has never really recovered, I know she is nearly 40. We were born the same year.
Neuromancer
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I think he'd get banned pretty quickVagabundo said:
EricHasNoPull
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Considering there are hundreds and thousands of verbally abusive, racist spouses in the U.S. It is unfortunate that Mel Gibson IS the most popular one in the country; and not someone else, he's such a talented bloke!
Smiles and Cries
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this guy took a huge dive
I would never be able to watch those movies again without a reminder of these things
so he is as crazy as he acted wow
I would never be able to watch those movies again without a reminder of these things
so he is as crazy as he acted wow
BaronLundi
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I don't know what's scarier, people ready to defend the bigot's comments or people actually convinced that his movies are worth anything beyond laughing material.
Good thing they are usually the same.
Good thing they are usually the same.
ZombieSupaStar
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mel trolls so hard, :lol
EricHasNoPull
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Even though there are lots of funny moments in the Lethal Weapon movies, there are also good action sequences. So yeah, I don't think all his movies are limited to comedy "laughing Material" but I guess I must lack your superior taste in films.BaronLundi said:
Diatribe1974
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This just in! Winona Ryder trying to get herself back into the public limelight again. Also, Mel Gibson said some more shit we probably knew he'd say. More news at 11.
radioheadrule83
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Why is she only outing this behaviour now?
Could it be that she wants some limelight after getting caught shoplifting and spending years doing fuck-all? That said, I read that she's also suffered from anxiety and depression - so I'll give her a break... from Mel's behaviour, its easy to believe this particular anecdote is true.
Could it be that she wants some limelight after getting caught shoplifting and spending years doing fuck-all? That said, I read that she's also suffered from anxiety and depression - so I'll give her a break... from Mel's behaviour, its easy to believe this particular anecdote is true.
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radioheadrule83 said:
Maybe she was specifically asked about it? Anyone have a transcript to that interview. I'm pretty curious to see if she just said this out of the blue, or if there was context.
BaronLundi
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EricHasNoPull said:
I was referring to the movies he directed - which I find hard to take seriously indeed.
Although he also played in a lot of garbage, Lethal Weapon (the first one anyway) was very enjoyable. Maybe it's because of nostalgia, but I think it still holds up.
Still think a huge portion of GAF has really shitty taste in movies though.
EricHasNoPull
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BaronLundi said:
Hmm ok, well it seems obvious that I liked the film "Apocalypto" more than you did.
Since (as far as Hollywood period pieces go) I thought it was a very well made film, with a great story of survival, revenge and triumph, I also found it very captivating and entertaining, at least more than many other movies I've seen within the genre.
With your superior taste of the cinematic arts; can you please specify why a movie like Apocalypto is hard to take seriously? MAYBE it can help us GAFers with shitty taste in movies raise our standards in movies.
Discotheque
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BaronLundi said:
I'm sorry but you shouldn't be judging anybody's taste if you hate on the Mad Max and Lethal Weapon films.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Nah LW 4 help introduce Jet Li to the US. Okay hate on the movie, but not Jet Li in that movie.Tedesco! said:
BaronLundi
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Discotheque said:
Well, I'm sure I could but I actually like those two.
Lethal Weapon (the first) is a very good action/comedy flick and Mad Max (again, the first, not sure about the second, the third was garbage) is just plain great.
EricHasNoPull said:
Well I can imagine it being somewhat enjoyable as a mindless revenge/slasher movie. And I wouldn't deny anyone's right to be entertained by it, but I certainly consider it a very poor piece of cinematography.
First, as a period piece it fails miserably since the depiction of Mayan civilisation is not only inaccurate but a completely dishonest fantasy. I wouldn't mind if the movie presented itself just as mindless fun but it doesn't. It pretends to give the viewer a glimpse of pre-colombian society and life : it's actually no more than a representation of a western's (and christian's) man fantasy. Gibson's is making everything up according to his own religious beliefs : how those savages were inherently evil and violent (and yet he is himself clearly and pathologically fascinated by violence) and how the conquistadors will eventually save them etc.
Then there're the characters... Well, character is too flattering a word for the people inhabiting this movie. They could be labelled according to their one-dimensional characteristics for all intents and purposes. Clichés with legs following an extremely predictable script.
And then there's the stupid violence, which I don't mind in movies that don't take themselves seriously. This one does. Gibson movies should actually be found in the "Christian Gore" section of horror flicks. Seriously.
And then I find the photography ugly and the story is so predictable it becomes a total bore.
Anyway, I won't try to convince anyone not to like it. I don't care. But to take it seriously as a movie or as an historic piece ? No way.
BaronLundi said:Well, I'm sure I could but I actually like those two.
First, as a period piece it fails miserably since the depiction of Mayan civilisation is not only inaccurate but a completely dishonest fantasy. I wouldn't mind if the movie presented itself just as mindless fun but it doesn't. It pretends to give the viewer a glimpse of pre-colombian society and life : it's actually no more than a representation of a western's (and christian's) man fantasy. Gibson's is making everything up according to his own religious beliefs : how those savages were inherently evil and violent (and yet he is himself clearly and pathologically fascinated by violence) and how the conquistadors will eventually save them etc.
Gibson certainly doesn't portray all indians as evil savages. The movie makes a sharp distinction between the peaceful tribe the protagonist belongs to, and the antagonistic tribe that enslaves hem so they can ritually sacrifice them. Jaguar Paw, his pregnant wife and his tribe were portrayed as good people living in an idyllic world, it's almost a paradise. The view of the conquistadors' ships was only a reminder the world that was shown in the movie was going to change for ever. Nothing more. It's just silly how you can conclude from just that shot of a few boats that Gibson meant to say that all indians were inherently evil and that Christianity is going to save them. Ridiculous.
Besides that, there have been indian civilizations including the Aztecs in south America that did sacrifice humans by the thousands. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_Aztec_culture The Aztecs did fight wars in order to capture people for their ceremonial sacrifices. Pleas read up on the Flower Wars.
radioheadrule83
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ymmv said:
Yeah, that was quite a sad ending... it was like: okay, he's escaped from all those ritualistic killing madmen, but he has no idea what is in store and what those boats on the horizon mean. They mean complete and total apocalypse to the life he once knew.
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