Jez Corden: Playstation Pulling Back From Releasing Their Tentpole Single Player Games on PC

Topher said:
Believe he is talking about this:

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Wording is a bit vaguer because he says "PlayStation platform" instead of consoles, but either way, this was a moronic strategy if this was really the plan.

A bunch of half-assed late ports ain't gonna entice many people to move over, especially when the AAA cinematic-driven third-person games Sony had a stranglehold throughout last gen have largely been equalled and often surpassed by third-parties.
 
Tobimacoss said:
Bringing PC players to Consoles won't work. Bringing PSN to PC and Cloud players can work if cohesive ecosystem and strategy.
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reinking said:
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Nah, Sony PC store and Cloud expansion HAS to happen, NEEDS to happen. I want two full proper ecosystems across PC, Console, Cloud, Handhelds.

Play Anywhere, Cloud Enabled, Handheld Optimized. That is the future. Ecosystems spanning platforms and form factors, games not exclusive to any hardware, not exclusive to any Store either (after 12 months), but only exclusive long term to their respective streaming/subscription catalogs.

Valve and Epic get to piggyback onto Magnus and windows handhelds, but neither have their own streaming or subscription service. So Xbox and PlayStation are the only ones capable of accomplishing full ecosystems, but Sony is taking too long.
 
Tobimacoss said:
Nah, Sony PC store and Cloud expansion HAS to happen, NEEDS to happen. I want two full proper ecosystems across PC, Console, Cloud, Handhelds.

Play Anywhere, Cloud Enabled, Handheld Optimized. That is the future. Ecosystems spanning platforms and form factors, games not exclusive to any hardware, not exclusive to any Store either (after 12 months), but only exclusive long term to their respective streaming/subscription catalogs.

Valve and Epic get to piggyback onto Magnus and windows handhelds, but neither have their own streaming or subscription service. So Xbox and PlayStation are the only ones capable of accomplishing full ecosystems, but Sony is taking too long.
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this is meant tongue in cheek. :messenger_squinting_tongue:
 
The rumor kinda makes sense. They did pull back from listing multiplat releases in the key strategies report back in September and I can imagine with Sony Japan back in charge of running things some of their key strategies might have changed.


I can also see Steam Machines' release giving them pause when it comes to their PC release strategy. It's not like their games on Steam have been lighting the charts anyway and if Steam Machines takes off it could cannibalize PS5 sales if the platform is supported by a steady stream of Sony single player games. I can't imagine they are too happy with another console having access to their tentpole first party SP games even if they arrive a year later.
 
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Tobimacoss said:
but only exclusive long term to their respective streaming/subscription catalogs.
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And I would like to not buy more plastic boxes to put around the living room because I want to play a game, neither subscribe to multiple streaming services to access games. So unless Sony will continue with the PC push I will just continue to ignore PlayStation.
 
Mister Wolf said:
If I was running Playstation I would definitely do it. Would be a reign of tyranny. Would be paying timed exclusives to keep games off PC. Like how Monster Hunter World came to PC later.
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Corden literally posted now saying that everything he is shouting is just vague rumor or his thoughts 😂 that guy is without hope
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
My 2 cents as to why first party sales are decreasing is because they have released a lot of games that were super easy to pass on

For me personally the only first party game I have played that I thought wow I am glad I own a PS5 for that was Astrobot
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Because they have:
- Released less games
- Released games for a mainstream public: open world or/and woke or/and boring (Horizon, God of War Ragnarok, Ghost of Yotei)
Both of those things BECAUSE of their new strategy. They have invested less in single player games and decided to please a bigger audience with the few AAAA tentpole games they were still doing.

It was obvious this was going to happen since we heard about that new strategy. I remember years ago that people were saying we were almost conspirationists for telling them this would happen "Oh no they will still do the same amount of Single player games, don't worry". But here we are.
 
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Release the only thing that make a console appealing, exclusives, day and date on PC is a dumb choice and I think Sony realized.

Releasing after some months/years to make a bunch of more dollars and devaluate your console and series is dumb too, but a bit less.
 
It would be Sony's smartest decision to focus on promoting its products, its own hardware.

I've always thought that PCs are direct competition for consoles and damage iconic console franchises. Unless you achieve massive success, in the long run it's a trap.
 
It's kind of strange that they acquired Nixxes to handle PC ports, only to seemingly step back from the PC market. Nixxes has gone completely silent recently.
My guess is it no longer feels like a priority for them. I don't think they'll revisit their older catalogue for new ports, but they'll probably continue bringing upcoming PS5 titles to PC.
I recall Yoshida mentioning that releasing games on PC was like printing money, and with rising development costs, that extra revenue is definitely welcome.

I have a 5090 PC and still kept my PS5 mainly for Gran Turismo. I'd love to experience Ghost of Yotei on the 5090, but if it stays a PS5 exclusive, I'll hold on to the console until the end of this generation.
 
Tobimacoss said:
I think Sony should have a consistent policy across the ecosystem.

Their own PC and Android stores. Release game Day 1 on the Sony PC store. Cross Buy, Cross Save, Cross Play between PSN across PC, Consoles, Cloud, Handheld.
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I agree. Regarding their own PC PSN store/launcher, we saw many indirect actions and quotes that shown that they have been working on it for a while.

I assume they are waiting until a certain strategical point to release it, as could be the release of PS6 and or the handheld, to make the games seamlessly crossbuy, crossave, etc between the different devices, and market all together as 'one PSN for all devices'. That would include to be able to play in the cloud (any device including mobile, tv too) any PS6/PSP2/PC PSN game you bought if you have PS+ Premium.

By doing so, I'd release all games day one on their PC PSN, and to have a delay of 2 years to release them in the rest of PC/mobile stores.

I'd make mandatory for all PS6/PSP2/PC PSN games (both 1st and 3rd party) to support all these 3 devices (PSP2 would be basically a portable PS5, so inderectly they'd make a PS5 version too) plus the cloud thing.

semiconscious said:
what part of 'ps5 exclusive tent-pole single player games' did you not get? for one thing, sony-published does not equal 'tent-pole'. also, most of these titles are either ps4 &/or pc as well, or weren't even developed by sony-owned studios. sony's primary big-budget ('tent-pole') single-player studios: naughty dog, santa monica, insomniac, guerrilla, sucker punch...
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ico said:
most of these games are already available on PS4 or their not even first party. He meant real first party games that can push the console. I mean, most of these games already sold much on PS4 and many players already played them. Many like rise of Robin and lost soul didn't sell well and are mid.
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You are the one not getting it. All the ones I listed are 'ps5 exclusive tent-pole single player games' according to the definition of Sony and Hermen Hulst, which is new single player AAA games published by them. This also includes crossgen games (like let's say GoWR) and games with an external lead developer (like Death Stranding 2).

Sony's plan for tentpole game has been and continues being to release them as PS console exclusive and in most cases after some period to give it a late PC port.

Crossgen console exclusives continue are exclusives too, even if you don't like it.

And first party games are the games published by a platform holder, in this case Sony. All these have been mentioned as first party by Sony. Part of the first party games are the second party games, which are the first party games with external lead dev studios, who sometimes also got external non-Sony funding, or that external studio owns the game IP instead of Sony.
 
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Some posts in this thread are very weird, specially coming from "so-called" gamers and I am not referring to anyone simply speaking of games releasing/not releasing on PC.

You want console manufacturers to release their next gen consoles. You also love to say "I will not be buying so and so's next gen console" because of [ x ]. Make up your damn mind, lol.

If you want to see growth in the console space, then you have to put your money where your mouth is and support that.
 
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SNG32 said:
Yea ok so Sony is just going to abandon a their pc porting studio and realeasing games. Yea ok until we've heard some thing officially from Sony it's business as usual. Some of you console warriors are busting your loads too fast.
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Only 2 percent of their gaming revenue came from multiplatforms sales.... If Im Sony, I'm pulling the plug and telling those master race neck beards to go fuck themselves.

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Nixies can stop wasting time, and start working on remaking Ps2 and Ps3 games for next gen, starting with Heavenly Sword.
 
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PixelatedBeast said:
Only 2 percent of their gaming revenue came from multiplatforms sales.... If Im Sony, I'm pulling the plug and telling those master race neck beards to go fuck themselves.

Get Out Theatre GIF by Tony Awards


Nixies can stop wasting time, and start working on remaking Ps2 and Ps3 games for next gen, starting with Heavenly Sword.
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Seriously where do you fuckers come up with this stuff Sony has said repeatedly said they make money off PC ports and they will continue to do so. Until I hear it out of Sonys mouth saying they are no longer doing ports I will believe them. Not some internet dweeb who says dumb shit for clicks.
 
Sony has never said they were bringing all of their games to PC. Ever. People (like Jez) have assumed it because that is what Xbox did. I really do not care either way other than I believe exclusivity of some kind is important for consoles to survive. From day one, it is what helped build them into the industry they became. Maybe in 10 years the lines will be blurred enough as to what a console is that it will no longer matters. That seems to be where people want things to go. Not me. I liked having both PCs and consoles seperate. Blending them together takes away what was special for each one IMO.
 
reinking said:
Sony has never said they were bringing all of their games to PC. Ever. People (like Jez) have assumed it because that is what Xbox did. I really do not care either way other than I believe exclusivity of some kind is important for consoles to survive. From day one, it is what helped build them into the industry they became. Maybe in 10 years the lines will be blurred enough as to what a console is that it will no longer matters. That seems to be where people want things to go. Not me. I liked having both PCs and consoles seperate. Blending them together takes away what was special for each one IMO.
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There seems to be a lot of Sonytoo tied up in subjects like this. There's this assumption that Sony will follow in MS' footsteps in terms of strategy which makes no sense given how things have gone for Xbox - but I think people like Jez are just blind to that fact or, more likely, trying to introduce narratives to make MS look good and/or make the competition look bad.
 
reinking said:
Sony has never said they were bringing all of their games to PC. Ever. People (like Jez) have assumed it because that is what Xbox did. I really do not care either way other than I believe exclusivity of some kind is important for consoles to survive. From day one, it is what helped build them into the industry they became. Maybe in 10 years the lines will be blurred enough as to what a console is that it will no longer matters. That seems to be where people want things to go. Not me. I liked having both PCs and consoles seperate. Blending them together takes away what was special for each one IMO.
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PC port-beggers here have been telling me that Day 1 games on PC were a foregone conclusion....

It's not just Corden
 
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yurinka said:
You are the one not getting it. All the ones I listed are 'ps5 exclusive tent-pole single player games' according to the definition of Sony and Hermen Hulst, which is new single player AAA games published by them. This also includes crossgen games (like let's say GoWR) and games with an external lead developer (like Death Stranding 2)...
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the thing is, with this new, sony/hulst definition of 'tent-pole', which's basically 'every new single-player game we publish', it's sony/hulst who've successfully basically demolished any meaning whatsoever of the term 'tent-pole', not me. & if you choose to allow corporations/individuals to redefine traditional terminology like 'tent-pole' for you to suit their own purposes, don't expect to have very much coherent communication with those of us who don't...

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tentpole: a big-budget movie whose earnings are expected to compensate the studio for its less profitable movies...
 
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SNG32 said:
Seriously where do you fuckers come up with this stuff Sony has said repeatedly said they make money off PC ports and they will continue to do so. Until I hear it out of Sonys mouth saying they are no longer doing ports I will believe them. Not some internet dweeb who says dumb shit for clicks.
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Well, you port begging hand fuckers can continue to be delusional if you want, but the writing is on the wall. Outside of Helldivers 2, their sales on PC are shit. Now that Valve revealed the Steam machine and Xbox want to make a hybrid console, it only makes sense to pull back and tighten the grip on their IPs to strengthen the value of their hardware as they get ready to launch the PS6.
 
PixelatedBeast said:
Well, you port begging hand fuckers can continue to be delusional if you want, but the writing is on the wall. Outside of Helldivers 2, their sales on PC are shit. Now that Valve revealed the Steam machine and Xbox want to make a hybrid console, it only makes sense to pull back and tighten the grip on their IPs to strengthen the value of their hardware as they get ready to launch the PS6.
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Absolutely, add the new forthcoming PS handheld to the mix and it makes no sense to sell their future games on Steam when they NEED to sell those on PSN to justify their hardware strategy....

Also considering that SteamDeck becomes the main competitor in the handheld space for third-party games
 
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PixelatedBeast said:


Well, you port begging hand fuckers can continue to be delusional if you want, but the writing is on the wall. Outside of Helldivers 2, their sales on PC are shit. Now that Valve revealed the Steam machine and Xbox want to make a hybrid console, it only makes sense to pull back and tighten the grip on their IPs to strengthen the value of their hardware as they get ready to launch the PS6.
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Ghost of Yotei about to make you have a meltdown once it releases on pc next year. Like I said before I think Sony got a launcher coming up their sleeves.
 
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PixelatedBeast said:


Well, you port begging hand fuckers can continue to be delusional if you want, but the writing is on the wall. Outside of Helldivers 2, their sales on PC are shit. Now that Valve revealed the Steam machine and Xbox want to make a hybrid console, it only makes sense to pull back and tighten the grip on their IPs to strengthen the value of their hardware as they get ready to launch the PS6.
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5 years and still angry they took away your precious exclusives you used a console war ammo. Pathetic.
 
Astray said:
I mean it's an assumption that Microsoft even *has* a strategy.

These clowns have been swerving from one lamppost to the next.
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I think they did way back when they started releasing their games on PC - Game Pass. You could buy those titles individually or get them all for a low price by subscribing, for example. They really stuck with that particular strategy too, even when it was apparent that it wasn't going to catch on in the way they wanted it to. However, now that they have pulled back from it, I agree that they're all over the place.
 
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laynelane said:
There seems to be a lot of Sonytoo tied up in subjects like this. There's this assumption that Sony will follow in MS' footsteps in terms of strategy which makes no sense given how things have gone for Xbox - but I think people like Jez are just blind to that fact or, more likely, trying to introduce narratives to make MS look good and/or make the competition look bad.
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They know Xbox is suffering for their necessity decision, thus they want Sony to as well since it would harm them more than it does MS (for a company as a whole). MS tried baiting Sony to "spend them out of business," but they never fully bit.

MS can sell off Xbox or foreclose on the brand and not even blink an eye nor care. It's not a "tentpole" division for them no matter the smoke they sell their evangelized. They would just go back to "Microsoft Game Studios."

So the Jez types are not blind, they just hate Sony that much and are practicing schadenfreude.
 
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The 1+ year late shadow drops were always a losing strategy, as soundly evidenced by all the 3rd party "Exclusives" Sony money hatted that went on to bomb on PC a year later, while Capcom's day 1 releases made PC their largest platform. Playstation protectionism to sustain their ridiculous paid online bullshit and 30% cut. Shame the Steam Machine is poised to be a ridiculously overpriced under powered turd, it'd been nice to see someone actually offer some competition.
 
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