Jez Corden: Playstation Pulling Back From Releasing Their Tentpole Single Player Games on PC

Tentpole single-player games being platform exclusive at launch was never not going to be the case.

As I've explained before, the *entire* premise of first-party is to serve as brand-identity leaders for the platform. Because if they were looking purely to maximize direct revenue return they'd target the widest audience possible.

If a game is multi-player or service-based then naturally the calculus changes because titles like that live or die based on engagement numbers, so the priority becomes to open wide with MAU as a KPI, because the assumption is within any user cohort there will a hardcore of "whales" who will contribute disproportionately to the overall revenue stream.

In a single player stand-alone offer, essentially every sale made is of equal value. So opening "narrow" then going "wide" in terms of addressable market makes much more sense as its a value driver to the host of the "narrow" distro channel through FOMO and brand identification.

But the thing is, even many GAAS titles don't need multiple platforms to succeed, once the platform itself is established and entrenched in a major way. We saw that even back on PS2 with games like SOCOM, and we see it today on Steam with games like Counterstrike 2 and DOTA 2.

Generally speaking, a GAAS title being on as many platforms as possible sounds like a good thing on paper, and if you can pull it off in practice, brings a lot of benefits. But it can also harm the game if optimization resources are spread too thin among those platforms, because that has to now get balanced alongside having constant or near-constant content updates.

In that way, GAAS titles still face the same problems of resource thinning as non-GAAS title, but it's probably exacerbated in their case because of the nature of GAAS content update cycles.

The first sentence is exactly it and just absolute common sense. Outside of MP titles, the Show and maybe a Lego game, it makes total sense. Putting a 6 to 12 to 18 to 24 month delay on SP titles, on a per title basis also makes sense.

No; even staggered delays introduce problems. Late-comers to the platform throughout the generation who have tastes in a variety of games will, among other things, weigh the offering of exclusive titles on that platform to help determine a purchase.

If I'm in the market for two platforms and know one of them has a platform holder who's been porting earlier titles to the second platform and will port their newest games to the second platform in a short time frame, then assuming I don't have FOMO, chances are I'm going to consider the second platform over the first.

But supposing you want to still do staggered releases, then you need to have a genuine virtuous cycle of showing priority to your main platform. If you port a 1P title to PC, if you even announce such a port, you'd better have a new 1P game ready to reveal or release as exclusive for your own hardware to balance that out. Balance out the messaging, balance out the pipeline, balance out the releases. SIE haven't had a good balance this gen because AAA dev takes longer, most of their studios don't have additional teams for AA, and 3P pubs seem much less inclined to provide exclusives on the platform.

The optimal approach depends on the stage of the console life cycle imo. I would not be surprised if they pull back from PC temporarily when PS6 releases, to encourage as many as possible to buy the console, only to move back towards being PC friendly later.

Tsushima did very well on PC. If they think eg. not releasing Yotei or Astro Bot on PC is going to make a significant number of PC gamers go and buy a PS5 at this stage, they are dreaming.

But it might. The original purpose of the whole strategy was to use ports of old games to draw some of those PC users to pick up a PlayStation for the sequels and other exclusives & whatnot.

However, you screw up that entire strategy if you establish a cadence of porting all of your new releases to PC in increasingly short time frames, because now those PC gamers have less a reason to pick up a PlayStation. Which is the mistake SIE's made this gen.

If there's any time for SIE to start correcting that, this is the time, during a transitional period. FWIW I don't think they need or should scale back on porting everything to PC; many of the GAAS titles would be fine to keep over there, for example. And maybe porting collections of legacy PS1/PS2/PS3 titles would be sufficient too, even to platforms like Switch 2, if it meant getting new entries or similar in those IP for PlayStation.

But if they did (or do) have plans for a PS store on PC, I don't necessarily see a reason to put that on Windows. They could carve out their own space on Linux with that, or try doing it on MacOS. Or just drop that altogether and bring a better suite of productivity & multimedia features to PS consoles while innovating with their designs in terms of some modular upgradability paths, additional SKUs for various price points, improving the services etc. I mean Sony (well, Kutaragi) talked about wanting the PS2 to be like a computer way back in the day, maybe it's time SIE start looking into bringing over more of those types of features & benefits while retaining the highly optimized & established framework they've built for PlayStation consoles the past five generations.
 
"you Sony fans"

And there it is. Tribalistic take right on queue.

Well, what is anyone to think when the same people such as yourself are the ones to jump on anyone who makes a slight towards any Sony users or Sony on here but never say anything to all those same users that spam a hell of a lot of negative comments, memes, "jokes" or trolling as you call it any never say anything to those people?

What is anyone supposed to think?

It's all clear for anyone to see on the forum.

I don't even want to do any silly arguing with you. I really like you as a poster Topher.

I'm trying to earn you guys trust back. As in, you can know I share a different opinion in some ways but we all get on and take the piss etc agree on some things. Discuss things.

Anyway, it's Saturday afternoon on the UK and sending positive vibes after the negative. Peace out.
 
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Well, what is anyone to think when the same people such as yourself are the ones to jump on anyone who makes a slight towards any Sony users or Sony on here but never say anything to all those same users that spam a hell of a lot of negative comments, memes, "jokes" or trolling as you call it any never say anything to those people?

What is anyone supposed to think?

It's all clear for anyone to see on the forum.
Or maybe it's just the broken record of the constant war bait. Sony fans seem less serious on here (hence the gifs and jokes you mentioned), and the hardcore serious ones seemed to all get banned.

That pesky sOnYgAf
 
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Well, what is anyone to think when the same people such as yourself are the ones to jump on anyone who makes a slight towards any Sony users or Sony on here

So this was supposed to be a slight towards Sony users. I never said that, but thanks for making it clear that was your intent.

Now this is the kind of Jizz Cordon content the site can get behind, and rally for.
 
So this was supposed to be a slight towards Sony users. I never said that, but thanks for making it clear that was your intent.

You originally took it as a slight towards Sony users because it made you feel some kind of way and triggered you enough to call me a clown.

Now what does that say about the whole situation 😂
 
Jez Corden is a complete idiot but that doesn't change the fact that Sony won't give a fuck about Steam as soon as they release their combo of next-gen hardware fixed + portable

They want people to spend money on PSN store, not Steam

The moment Playstation handheld launches, Valve becomes a competitor

So this PC/Steam shit is coming to an end rather sooner than later
 
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You originally took it as a slight towards Sony users because it made you feel some kind of way and triggered you enough to call me a clown.

Now what does that say about the whole situation 😂

Nope. I took it as you pretending this "site" was constantly flip-flopping when it comes to Jez Corden and that this was news the "site" would "rally" behind. This is a common take for you in threads like these. I never said a word about Sony or Sony fans. That was all you. You told on yourself.
 
Nope. I took it as you pretending this "site" was constantly flip-flopping when it comes to Jez Corden and that this was news the "site" would "rally" behind. This is a common take for you in threads like these. I never said a word about Sony or Sony fans. That was all you. You told on yourself.

No I didn't. I made a joke saying that Jizz Cordon is trustworthy depending on what the news is about. That is what the joke is. That is what people have been saying on here. So I made a joke reference concerning that. Which you clearly got because that IS the joke that's been happening on here.

You took it some kind of way for some reason and came at me.
 
Either he's just trolling or I'm slowly going crazy. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
He's doing classic engagement farming, likely to get more money for beans lol

I started listing a bunch of names but removed them to not give them more attention. They're all the same tbh, once you realize they make money from these talks you kind of see through the vague way they're talking, if they get people clicking on their posts or videos they have succeeded.
 
"I was talking about PlayStation doing day-and-day and doing PC. And then I got off on a tangent about the social aspects of PlayStation. And the reason Steam has become popular is because, at least partially I think, it is easier to go viral with Steam. And you would think logically that PlayStation would want to tap into that, right? And make their franchises go viral by being on Steam and being on a bigger platform. [...] But I actually heard the complete opposite today from a very good source, that PlayStation probably is pulling back from PC and also that the crossbuy buttons and the PlayStation/PC iconography is from outdated old builds and is never going to be used. [...] I don't actively investigate what PlayStation's doing. Because it's not my beat. But I do get PlayStation information incidentally sometimes by researching Microsoft stuff for my actual beat. But it does seem like the games that PlayStation released on PC didn't move the needle for them at all. Partially because they were launched so late, but maybe they've used that as evidence that they shouldn't go any further, and that they should remain more Nintendo in their approach and keep things more exclusive. Except service games. [...] But I do think those sort of tentpole singleplayer games like Yotei and stuff, maybe they just don't come to PC, or they come to PC years later"



I am not surprised if this occurs. It would be terrible business if Playstation released their games day and date on PC. It would be great for gamers, but If consoles like Steam Machine and the next-Xbox play Playstation games day 1, why would I buy a PS6, where I would have to pay for online and pay full price for games? It always made no sense

Playstation first party games are such a small portion of its overall revenue too. They make their money from microtransactions, services, and third party sales. Their PC revenue for Single Player games is a fraction of that. If you look at Steam Charts, Playstation releasing their single player games on PC closer to their release date on PS5, it did nothing to generate more sales. Playstation is going to protect their ecosystem in this changing market

It has been nearly 15 months since Astro Bot has been released. Still no word on a PC port

Disbelief No GIF

come o he is a xbox guy he knows shit about PlayStation
 
My 2 cents as to why first party sales are decreasing is because they have released a lot of games that were super easy to pass on

For me personally the only first party game I have played that I thought wow I am glad I own a PS5 for that was Astrobot
No, it's because they don't have their games at permanent rock bottom pricing anymore.
 
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No I didn't. I made a joke saying that Jizz Cordon is trustworthy depending on what the news is about. That is what the joke is. That is what people have been saying on here. So I made a joke reference concerning that. Which you clearly got because that IS the joke that's been happening on here.

You took it some kind of way for some reason and came at me.

The "joke" made no sense as the "site" had already exposed Jez's bullshit flip-flopping and was mocking him for it. These "this is GAF for you" jokes are incredibly old and tired. You need new material.
 
Dench is properly unhinged when it's come to jumping on all kinds of anti Playstation news and making 'jokes' about the Sony fans/SonyGaf. Just a lame way to war.
 
So, they're going to maintain their existing strategy.

I'm struggling to understand what the big revelation is here. This was the same guy who said that XBOX games being released on Playstation was just cope by PlayStation fanboys.

Why do people keep taking this guy seriously? He's a fool.
 
More like 50-50.

Success: HZD, GOW, Spider-Man, GOT, Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Days Gone

Decent: HFW, GOWR, Spider-Man 2, TLOU, TLOU Part II, Miles Morales

Flops: Sackboy, Returnal, Uncharted, Rift Apart, Concord (lol),
That's not what 50/50 means
 
No I didn't. I made a joke saying that Jizz Cordon is trustworthy depending on what the news is about. That is what the joke is. That is what people have been saying on here. So I made a joke reference concerning that. Which you clearly got because that IS the joke that's been happening on here.

You took it some kind of way for some reason and came at me.
Again, nobody is buying your bullshit. And in the very unlikely event you're being genuine here, consider it your karma for having been such an insufferable personality. Right up until your favorite box took an Amber Heard all over your bed and you magically shifted to:

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You are correct that's how things used to be. So tell me, if one can finish Wolverine or Intergalactic via streaming, 20-30 hour or whatever games, why would they buy hardware?

Because streaming is and always will be inferior to local gaming.

What's that have to do with anything?
 
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I believe Jez has very good sources usually. The problem is he will say shit on twitter and people are unable to interpret if he is giving his personal opinion or stating an opinion that has inside knowledge

I also strongly believe Jez is purposely given "leaked" information by people at Xbox to improve public relations. He rarely ever leaks negative news. It is why he was completely in the dark for months about Xbox going third party
 
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I guess we'll see if it's true if Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei don't show up on PC in 2026.
100% they will show up. This idiot should be banned from here. We shouldn't give this guy the clicks or any revenue in any form or engagement. A trash shithead that has mental health issues.

Him, rand al Thor, zuby tech. All the same garbage.

I am really surprised they are not all banned here even.
 
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This Jez guy has no insider or even basic industry credibility after he became a laughing stock from this comment


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Imagine saying something in real life and then have people around you dredging up what you said 3 or 5 or 10 years ago as some kind of hard fact that you cant be trusted, or youre always wrong - or something. People change, things change, we change our opinions on things. Its great with the freedom of the internet and being able to say what you want, but one thing that is missing is that people have to let things go and accept that humans are not perfect.

If you dont like what he is saying, stop quoting him then and dont give him the engagement.

Folks are free to state their opinion on his takes as well. When the guy makes two statements that directly contradict each other mere days apart then people are rightfully going to point that out. He doesn't mind because this all contributes to his engagement farming at the end of the day.

Thats hilarious, but also how it goes when you are in the middle of a conversation and you suddenly learn something new and you have to rethink what you just said. Happens all the time. Its kind of nuts how much energy some people use to engage with this guy.
 
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But it might. The original purpose of the whole strategy was to use ports of old games to draw some of those PC users to pick up a PlayStation for the sequels and other exclusives & whatnot.
It 'might', but the degree to which it 'might' will surely change over the life of the console. Realistically how many are going to be funnelled to PS5 now if all previous reasons for that to happen have had no effect?

Is it worth forgoing, say, Yotei's PC sales if not releasing it convinces one person to buy a PS5? Obviously not, so it is a matter of judging how likely that 'might' really is.

The funnelling strategy has some merit, but it is not a fixed amount of merit, and not one they should adopt a rigid attitude towards imo.
 
Imagine saying something in real life and then have people around you dredging up what you said 3 or 5 or 10 years ago as some kind of hard fact that you cant be trusted, or youre always wrong - or something. People change, things change, we change our opinions on things. Its great with the freedom of the internet and being able to say what you want, but one thing that is missing is that people have to let things go and accept that humans are not perfect.

If you dont like what he is saying, stop quoting him then and dont give him the engagement.



Thats hilarious, but also how it goes when you are in the middle of a conversation and you suddenly learn something new and you have to rethink what you just said. Happens all the time. Its kind of nuts how much energy some people use to engage with this guy.

Well....he is an industry titan after all

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I said the other day, the only time I ever believe anything Jez says is when he has bad new about Xbox. That's because it pains him to say it. Everything else is just engagement farming when it comes to controversial takes and predictions.

Sony didn't buy Nixxes and create PlayStation PC LLC just to just abandon ship this quickly. The next game that makes sense on PC will be Death Stranding 2. I expect it will be on PC next year.
How come you are this late to the party!

The OP should've been my man Topher! I'm devastated!

Aren't old people all getting up early in the weekend? What's going on!
 
The majority of PS4/5 users aren't bothered with Sony exclusives so the lukewarm response from PC gamers should have surprised no-one. In addition, as we rapidly accelerate towards the streaming age Sony's hardware will be increasingly redundant. PlayStation's only hope of survival in the future will be as some form of aggregator service.
 
Imagine saying something in real life and then have people around you dredging up what you said 3 or 5 or 10 years ago as some kind of hard fact that you cant be trusted, or youre always wrong - or something.
If you are this wrong with this degree of certainty/arrogance, about something you are covering as a professional, it can and should damage your credibility.
 
The majority of PS4/5 users aren't bothered with Sony exclusives so the lukewarm response from PC gamers should have surprised no-one.
Ghost of Yotei is a little over 3 million

Did Astrobot even crack 3 million?

The overwhelming majority that buy a PS5 do not care about their exclusives
 
Playstations 1st party titles is whats keeping me on their platform along with the ease of couch gaming.. if they start putting those big hitters out day/date on PC why would I bother with a PS6 when I could get an upgraded steam PC
 
If you are this wrong with this degree of certainty/arrogance, about something you are covering as a professional, it can and should damage your credibility.
There is a difference between what he says on the podcast and his personal social media, and the articles that he writes for WC. None of that speculation goes into his official WC stuff, afaik. I dont have any problem sorting out whats speculation or not, so why should that damage his credibility? Guy should be allowed to say what he thinks, as long as its not an official Windows Central article.
 
There is a difference between what he says on the podcast and his personal social media, and the articles that he writes for WC. None of that speculation goes into his official WC stuff, afaik. I dont have any problem sorting out whats speculation or not, so why should that damage his credibility? Guy should be allowed to say what he thinks, as long as its not an official Windows Central article.

But when he says something and says he has a very good source for it then it isn't speculation at that point. He is saying he has information that it is true.
 
Ghost of Yotei is a little over 3 million

Did Astrobot even crack 3 million?

The overwhelming majority that buy a PS5 do not care about their exclusives
One was a cute platformer and the other a half assed sequel that had MEH all over since the beginning...

People care about Sonys games ... when they are worth it .. this Gen has been slim pickings unfortunately, Sony all in GaaS strategy made them neglect their sp studios/games and this is the result.

IF they comeback to making great SP games again next gen the picture around exclusives can be very different (as it once was)
 
But when he says something and says he has a very good source for it then it isn't speculation at that point. He is saying he has information that it is true.
Yeah even when people on the internet say that - especially inside the videogame industry media bubble - I dont believe a word they are saying. Maybe a little bit of something is right, but yeah cool story bro. Only when its official or corroborated by enough sources.
 
One was a cute platformer and the other a half assed sequel that had MEH all over since the beginning...

People care about Sonys games ... when they are worth it .. this Gen has been slim pickings unfortunately, Sony all in GaaS strategy made them neglect their sp studios/games and this is the result.

IF they comeback to making great SP games again next gen the picture around exclusives can be very different (as it once was)
I want another Uncharted. With Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley. Bring back that UC2 magic.

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Yeah even when people on the internet say that - especially inside the videogame industry media bubble - I dont believe a word they are saying. Maybe a little bit of something is right, but yeah cool story bro. Only when its official or corroborated by enough sources.

Definitely. "my sources tell me" is probably the most abused phrase in the industry.
 
The one with bald chick


Well, I do wish for this game to be good, but I really, really don't feel the main character (at least so far). She came across as an arrogant and annoying dipshit in the trailer. And seeing that ND's games (at least since Uncharted) are fairly character and story driven, that basically unsells the game for me. I just don't want to play as her. But again, this is all just according to the trailer they have shown.
 
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I want another Uncharted. With Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley. Bring back that UC2 magic.

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I dont think anything outside a huge failure can bring down Cuckman .... and I dont think this can realistically happen with the following he has...


Right now I dont want current ND touching (and raping) the Uncharted franchise
 
One was a cute platformer and the other a half assed sequel that had MEH all over since the beginning...

People care about Sonys games ... when they are worth it .. this Gen has been slim pickings unfortunately, Sony all in GaaS strategy made them neglect their sp studios/games and this is the result.

IF they comeback to making great SP games again next gen the picture around exclusives can be very different (as it once was)
100% but that's also a big IF
 
One was a cute platformer and the other a half assed sequel that had MEH all over since the beginning...

People care about Sonys games ... when they are worth it .. this Gen has been slim pickings unfortunately, Sony all in GaaS strategy made them neglect their sp studios/games and this is the result.

IF they comeback to making great SP games again next gen the picture around exclusives can be very different (as it once was)

Agreed, I just sold my PS5 Pro because it's just not worth it.

Happy to pick up whatever they decide to release on PC in the future, if it's worth it. So far, though, the PS5 era has been a bit meh.
 
Definitely. "my sources tell me" is probably the most abused phrase in the industry.
Yeah, I miss the days when insiders were anonymous, actually meant something, and rare.

Now, it's every social media (shill) who thinks they have some deets because they were used by brand marketing divisions.
 
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There is a difference between what he says on the podcast and his personal social media, and the articles that he writes for WC. None of that speculation goes into his official WC stuff, afaik. I dont have any problem sorting out whats speculation or not, so why should that damage his credibility? Guy should be allowed to say what he thinks, as long as its not an official Windows Central article.
But when he says something and says he has a very good source for it then it isn't speculation at that point. He is saying he has information that it is true.

Also, when you establish a public presence as a source of news that changes things. You DO then have to be careful about what you say and how you say it.

And he's been at this game long enough to know that. He does this frequently. If he doesn't like that, then he should leave the business.
 
Again, nobody is buying your bullshit. And in the very unlikely event you're being genuine here, consider it your karma for having been such an insufferable personality. Right up until your favorite box took an Amber Heard all over your bed and you magically shifted to:

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So basically, no one can evolve and better themselves. GG

Plenty of people do not find me insufferable. I have had many private messages over the years by users still on here and posting saying they agree with many of my points. Maybe I haven't been the best at putting my points across but hey ho. I'm looking to improve.

The thing people need to understand is someone's opinion is someone's opinion. And if you really think that my posts have been insufferable etc it means you drastically differ in your opinion to mine. That doesn't make you anymore right than me.

the thing I always find the funniest is when I step back and look at the overall posts and how I view gaming to others. I don't have anywhere near the actual tribalism as others, and many on this forum.

There's some that literally play on one platform and insult all others for some strange reason. I do not understand it in the slightest.
 
So basically, no one can evolve and better themselves. GG

Plenty of people do not find me insufferable. I have had many private messages over the years by users still on here and posting saying they agree with many of my points. Maybe I haven't been the best at putting my points across but hey ho. I'm looking to improve.

The thing people need to understand is someone's opinion is someone's opinion. And if you really think that my posts have been insufferable etc it means you drastically differ in your opinion to mine. That doesn't make you anymore right than me.

the thing I always find the funniest is when I step back and look at the overall posts and how I view gaming to others. I don't have anywhere near the actual tribalism as others, and many on this forum.

There's some that literally play on one platform and insult all others for some strange reason. I do not understand it in the slightest.
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