entremet
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Classic Gen X indifference lol.
Jimmy Fallon Cratering in the Ratings, Skirting Near Third Place in "Late Night Wars"
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andthebeatgoeson
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I'm not even sure it's a desire for politics but Colbert is a really good comedian and people need escape. Gaslighting is real and a nationwide phenomenon. A serial sex abuser is the president and his cronies didn't even wait a year before making sex abuse political while ignoring his biggest faults. It's either drinking or comedy, at this point.
Shit on McCain and Gold Star families, then bring up the proper way to honor the troops. Like, seriously.
And, politics has always been fertile ground for late night comedians. Even if you don't like politics, late night host seems like a bad fit if you don't do it. It's like a garbage truck driver that can't stand the smell. Did he even interview? Have you ever watched the tonight show?
Master Thespian
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Please keep The Roots.
thefragrance
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I liked fallon when he pulled shit like ew and mirren mirren. I put videos of his interviews to fall asleep.
I can't say any of the other comedians are killing it in their shows either tbh. Graham Northon tho damn
I can't say any of the other comedians are killing it in their shows either tbh. Graham Northon tho damn
This makes me rage. Current news are things that should be covered and it stopped being apolitical when he invited the fucking Presidential Candidate
Graham Norton makes occasional political jokes but they're usually UK politics
funkystudent
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He occasionally does something good but ever since he took over when Conan move off Late Night he has always felt like the odd one out in the talk show scene.
He is just so bland.
He is just so bland.
ShockingAlberto
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I'm honestly still pretty bitter about the Conan/Leno thing, so Tonight Show can sink for all I care.
So he is going to be hiding in closets spying on people?
Imperfected
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It would be the funniest thing he's done in a while.
ShockingAlberto
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Technically that was Leno's manager, I don't think Fallon is smart enough to do that on his own.
PingPongvonLaserstein
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I'm going to have to call a Fallon that joke.
This is one of those hyper-privileged denials of reality, refusing to understand that everything is politics. What he's truly saying is that he finds the status quo acceptable.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59e20592e4b03a7be580ecfd/amp
Uh..... trumps too bad to make jokes about? But obama was ok because it wasn't bleak? Honestly he must be a secret trump supporter
Uh..... trumps too bad to make jokes about? But obama was ok because it wasn't bleak? Honestly he must be a secret trump supporter
QuantumZebra
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That's where I'm at.
Shit was forced hard from day 1. Dude was about as authentic as store-brand lucky charms.
BotoxAgent
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did he just admit hes terrible at comedy?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This is so weird.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Nice of him to be honest
'I can't run off my dwindling demographic.'
Jack Scofield
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What does he even joke about in his monologues?
TrumanBurbank
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E News stuff
Actual young Leno was pretty funny and not bland at all.
Ploid 3.0
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Seems like it, but I'm sure he has comedy writers. Maybe he just doesn't want to make fun of him.
kidtamagotchi
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Jimmy Fallon has said (before Trump ran for president) that he is friends with Donald Trump. I mean, even Jon Stewart didn't go that hard against his (former?) friend/roommate Anthony Weiner. Though Jon did acknowledge how awkward the situation was.
If I remember right, one of the reasons it's speculated that Trump's so pissed with CNN & certain places is that he's had friends in the higher ups doesn't he?
Remember Save By The Bell?
I can appreciate political comedy just not being in someone's wheelhouse and wanting to stick to their strengths. That makes sense to me. But the "I'm not interested in politics" and "things are too bleak for me to make fun of now" shit, just... fuck off.
Jeff Zucker is the president of CNN. He used to be the president of NBC, when The Apprentice started. Trump believes that his show did a ton of good business for NBC while Zucker was there, and that he personally helped Zucker get the CNN job, and he's pissed that Zucker doesn't reward him for all that with across-the-board positive coverage on CNN.
Jeff Zucker is the president of CNN. He used to be the president of NBC, when The Apprentice started. Trump believes that his show did a ton of good business for NBC while Zucker was there, and that he personally helped Zucker get the CNN job, and he's pissed that Zucker doesn't reward him for all that with across-the-board positive coverage on CNN.
What is this? First time I heard about it.
This is actually not true, or well, maybe it is true, but late night comedians really didn't become that political until Stewart (and even the show he took over was very much apolitical before he took it in that direction). Carson, Leno and Letterman were all pretty apolitical. Letterman was probably the most political of the three, and even then it was sparse. The turn to late night being super political is pretty recent within the last decade, hosts before then tried to be as broad as possible, and Fallon is obviously trying to say within that old mold, but it's just not what people want anymore especially when you have people are so talented on commentary on politics like Colbert and Meyer.
Vanillalite
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It's not like people are gonna watch whomever is in NBC's role over Colbert for politics. He kinda owns the segment IMO.
Problem is what Fallon is doing that isn't Colbert's political thing just is falling flat.
I'm also not sold how much late night shows even really matter anymore.
Problem is what Fallon is doing that isn't Colbert's political thing just is falling flat.
I'm also not sold how much late night shows even really matter anymore.
Young Jay Leno was one of the most evolved and best up and coming comedians in the scene. Even Letterman will tell you this.
That makes what he became doubly offensive.
So is Colbert. Ugh, hurts to say that.
SlowRevolution
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give tonight show to craigyfergs
hodayathink
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It's a terrible excuse, but the real reason he won't do it is because he's bad at it. Like, we already have examples of how bad at it he is. If he tried to go all in on it, he'll end up being even further behind Colbert and falling behind Kimmel, because he'll be doing what they're doing, but worse.
That being said, if he were actually funny enough, he could easily survive as being the escape from politics late-show host. But he isn't, so we're here.
That being said, if he were actually funny enough, he could easily survive as being the escape from politics late-show host. But he isn't, so we're here.
ShockingAlberto
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What? Letterman and Leno were doing Clinton jokes every night for eight years.
If you're saying taking a strong political stance wasn't a thing until Stewart, maybe, but avoidance wasn't a thing until Fallon.
brianmcdoogle
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At least Colbert is intelligent and funny at time.
I love Colbert but the late night talk show format is not a good fit.
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