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John Kasich calls for U.S. ground force led invasion of Syria, Libya, and Iraq.

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BAIER: Governor Kasich, would you put ground troops in Libya?

KASICH: Well, first of all, just to be clear, not only did I serve for 18 years on the Defense Committee, more than anybody on this stage, but, secondly, I was called into the Pentagon after 9/11 to help Secretary Rumsfeld with some of his difficulties.

I will say, look, let me tell you what happened with Libya. And I pointed out in the last debate -- Hillary Clinton worked aggressively to depose Moammar Gadhafi. We had no business doing it. He was working with us. He was cooperating with us. He denuclearized. And now they pushed him out, and now we have a fertile ground for ISIS.

Fortunately in Libya, there's only a few cities on the coast, because most of Libya is a desert. The fact of the matter is, we absolutely have to be -- and not just with special forces. I mean, that's not going to work. Come on. You've got to go back to the invasion when we pushed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. We have to be there on the ground in significant numbers. We do have to include our Muslim Arab friends to work with us on that. And we have to be in the air.

And we -- it should be a broad coalition, made up of the kinds of people that were involved when we defeated Saddam. Now, you've got to be on the ground and in the air both in Syria and Iraq. And at some point, we will have to deal with Libya. I am very concerned about ISIS getting their hands on the oilfields in Libya and being able to fund their operations. The fact is cool, calm, deliberate, effective, take care of the job, and then come home. That's what we need to do with our military foreign policy.

From the debate tonight.

This is probably the most insane idea proposed in a primary that had Ben Carson and Donald Trump throughout almost all of it. Kasich is such a total disaster on foreign policy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-fox-news-gop-debate-transcript-annotated/
 
Fuck yea baby, let's do it!

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He's "reasonable"!!!1!! or "ya know, I actually kinda like this guy"

He has some insane views. As if his answer to the ridiculous question "Do gay deniers have rights" didn't make it clear enough
 

Measley

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I love how he talks about being on defense committees and conferencing with Rumsfeld after 9/11 as if that's actual military experience.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Don't worry guys, he speaks in a civil, well modulated tone. He's totally cool.
 

Dryk

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And here I was thinking that "helping" a warzone without asking the general populace inside that warzone what they want first was something we'd learnt our lesson about
 

billeh

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Gee golly jeez guys can't we stop fighting each other and start fighting Muslims?

Just looking at what he's done in his state would tell you he's an ass.
 
before moving in, you got freakin' Turkey upstairs bombing the Kurds then freakin' Turkey is buying oil from ISIS and funding them

then downstairs you got Saudi Arabia, funneling money to salafist extremo sunni groups, some affiliated with ISIS.

and with all that mess, Kasich wants to send ground troops into that shit?
 

orochi91

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Because the correct course of action in the ME is even more Western/foreign military intervention(s).

Naturally.
 

Measley

Junior Member
Kasich isn't moderate. He's a far right neocon with some scary positions. The difference is that he's willing to scale back the crazy and wait for just the right time to unleash it.

Like a snake in the grass.
 
The way people act as though Kasich is a moderate or as though his ideas are common sense drives me up the wall.
This is what happens when the party supposedly in the middle of it's death throes actually controls the political conversations of the US. We'll just keep pretending that isn't the case, though.
Kasich isn't moderate. He's a far right neocon with some scary positions. The difference is that he's willing to scale back the crazy and wait for just the right time to unleash it.

Like a snake in the grass.
Yep, this is one of the few reasons Trump is better than the clown show of establishment republican hopefuls.
 

Trojan

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Sending significant ground troops to occupy or reclaim parts of the Middle East is a fool's errand. Our track record is shit and it's just not sustainable to keep ground without the troops there indefinitely. We need to be realistic and spend those billions of dollars in areas that need it.
 

Burt

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John

Bruh

We're not nearly far enough out for you to use the words 'coalition' and 'Saddam' in a sentence together and act like you're floating a good idea.
 
The Repub candidates, with the exception of Trump, spews all kinds of hawkish rhetoric and brag about all the war crimes they'll commit (Trump included) everyday.

My favorite part is this:
The fact is cool, calm, deliberate, effective, take care of the job, and then come home. That's what we need to do with our military foreign policy.
This is exactly what the folks in government thought was going to happen in Afghanistan and Iraq. Just go in, take care of business, and come home.

That didn't go so well. I think these folks are swallowing their own propaganda because US military is not nearly as powerful as the marketing suggests.
 

Kusagari

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Kasich literally is a George W. Bush clone, down to the way he dangerously appears moderate by showing some compassion at times.

Him advocasting something like this isn't surprising.
 

slit

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Yeah great idea. Send sons, daughters, husbands, wives, mothers, fathers to go get killed for something that cannot be fixed with occupation. Makes total sense.

Honestly I fully expect this to happen if Hillary wins.

Honestly, you're wrong. Do you know who her base is?
 
Kasich lulls you in to a false sense comfort with his folksy attitude and economic policy, but he wakes you back up once he starts talking Obama and the Middle East.
 

Cromat

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Don't agree with an American invasion of all three countries but there should have been international military intervention in Syria years ago (before Russia got involved).
 

Lmo911

Member
Really? And cause an all out destructive war that is guaranteed to destroy both nations and maybe even the rest of the world? What kind of an idiot would say that. Hell, how could these people compete to be the leader of this country? Mind boggling isn't not even close to describing how terrible all of this is.

They've been raised their whole lives waiting for the Great War that will prove their manhood. The Cold War fizzled and their attempts to jump start Armageddon have so far been less than successful. They don't really grasp strength of character as a concept so they have to establish it through force.

Edit: Not saying there shouldn't be some kind of intervention to stabilize the region, but it has to be smart. This is not smart.
 
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