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Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard Defamation trial live

BLAUcopter

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the only thing i don't understand, is why would all her ex-friends and her ex makeup artist lie for her if seemingly they all dont like her or talk to her or wont work for her anymore???

I could understand if for whatever reason they bought into her bs lies and believed her, and are just parroting what Amber told them so they believed it to be true. But 2 of the friends were there for one incident. And the makeup lady obviously understands what fake bruises and marks with makeup looks like.

thats just the one mystery to me. I guess u could chalk it up to the ex friends being garbage also and the ex makeup lady is just dumb?? but idk
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Mainstream media outlets still batting for Amber. Fuck them all, taking side of an abuser just because she is a woman, indeed proving what Amber said- 'see who will believe you'.

I am sick of going to Google News and seeing headlines like 'The pain in Amber heard's testimony' and 'Why Amber must be believed for the sake of all women' on WaPo and all.

Fuck you rags. As if I didn't hate the left liberal idea's of 'suppression hierarchy' and following it blindly enough.
 
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Nico_D

Member
Mainstream media outlets still batting for Amber. Fuck them all, taking side of an abuser just because she is a woman, indeed proving what Amber said- 'see who will believe you'.

I am sick of going to Google News and seeing headlines like 'The pain in Amber heard's testimony' and 'Why Amber must be believed for the sake of all women' on WaPo and all.

Fuck you rags. As if I didn't hate the left liberal idea's of 'suppression hierarchy' and following it blindly enough.

Yeah, I noticed that too yesterday. Like they're hysterically deciding to believe whatever fragments support their agenda and beliefs and ignoring everything else.
 

Konnor

Member
Mainstream media outlets still batting for Amber. Fuck them all, taking side of an abuser just because she is a woman, indeed proving what Amber said- 'see who will believe you'.

I am sick of going to Google News and seeing headlines like 'The pain in Amber heard's testimony' and 'Why Amber must be believed for the sake of all women' on WaPo and all.

Fuck you rags. As if I didn't hate the left liberal idea's of 'suppression hierarchy' and following it blindly enough.

Feminism in a nutshell, and this shitty movement has the audacity to claim it wants equality for both genders.
 

jonnyp

Member
the only thing i don't understand, is why would all her ex-friends and her ex makeup artist lie for her if seemingly they all dont like her or talk to her or wont work for her anymore???

I could understand if for whatever reason they bought into her bs lies and believed her, and are just parroting what Amber told them so they believed it to be true. But 2 of the friends were there for one incident. And the makeup lady obviously understands what fake bruises and marks with makeup looks like.

thats just the one mystery to me. I guess u could chalk it up to the ex friends being garbage also and the ex makeup lady is just dumb?? but idk

Because they have all been lying since 2016 and have to stick to the stories they told when they still were friends, probably because they are afraid of perjury charges.

No one is saying the makeup artist is lying either. What we do know is that AH did not have a broken nose, black, swollen eyes and a split lip like she claims. The makeup artist said she had discoloration beneath her eyes, and bleeding from the lip (it wasn't split like AH says and the makeupartist states, that is plain to see) the day after AH claims the above-mentioned injuries were sustained. Her testimony wasn't very convincing when she started getting really defensive when asked to describe where she sees swelling though.

And which two friends were there for which incident? None of her friends have seen JD be violent with AH. None. The only one who claims that she has seen JD be violent with Amber is Whitney, who is lying to protect her sister according to Howell. The two sisters cannot even agree on what happened during that one incident. If the abuse was so frequent, so brutal as AH heard says, why hasn't anyone other than Whitney seen anything? Why did no one outside of her inner circle ever see these brutal, horrific injuries she claims? Why are there not one single medical record? She is an actress and a model that was frequently beat in the face by a man wearing large rings, but no one else outside her circle noticed anything?

A much better question to ask is why would JD bring this case forward, exposing every intimate thing about himself, having the her lies repeated in front of the entire world, if he was guilty of these things?
 
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Nico_D

Member
the only thing i don't understand, is why would all her ex-friends and her ex makeup artist lie for her if seemingly they all dont like her or talk to her or wont work for her anymore???

I could understand if for whatever reason they bought into her bs lies and believed her, and are just parroting what Amber told them so they believed it to be true. But 2 of the friends were there for one incident. And the makeup lady obviously understands what fake bruises and marks with makeup looks like.

thats just the one mystery to me. I guess u could chalk it up to the ex friends being garbage also and the ex makeup lady is just dumb?? but idk

The make up lady didn't necessarily lie. There may have been a mark on Amber's lip whether it was her who bit it (it's some spesific syndrome if being nervous or stressed, some people bit their lips) or something else. But still, if you had a mark on your lip, would you let take a photo of yourself in a talk show with your mouth wide open?

The friends have to keep up the lying since the double police call and trying to frame Johnny. Rocky has probably lie a lot about other things probably too.

Whitney I don't understand. She's clearly a punching bag and she's had a good relations with Johnny, yet she lied again in the court - even changing the original staircase story.
 

Konnor

Member
Regarding mainstream media, Asmongold, a single person streaming from the attic of his late mom's house, consistently has more views on youtube than all of mainstream media that are multi-million dollar corporations employing hundreds of... "journalists" while being heavily promoted by youtube and other social media. Just in case you needed proof of how little influence these hacks have nowadays despite all the unfair help they receive from their tech buddies.
 

ItsGreat

Member
The papers/media know that Amber most probably will win.

So they preemptively support her so they can be 'in the right' when the verdict is announced.

The media/papers need to keep an air of knowing what they talk about to keep their readers 'respect'
 

Konnor

Member
The papers/media know that Amber most probably will win.

So they preemptively support her so they can be 'in the right' when the verdict is announced.

The media/papers need to keep an air of knowing what they talk about to keep their readers 'respect'


Heard will definitely not win, she'll just not lose because defamation cases are extremely difficult to prove. Based on that logic they should support Johnny too because Heard's defamation case against him will be lost too.

The real reason they do this is because they're pushing an agenda.
 

Lord Panda

The Sea is Always Right
Mainstream media outlets still batting for Amber. Fuck them all, taking side of an abuser just because she is a woman, indeed proving what Amber said- 'see who will believe you'.

I am sick of going to Google News and seeing headlines like 'The pain in Amber heard's testimony' and 'Why Amber must be believed for the sake of all women' on WaPo and all.

Fuck you rags. As if I didn't hate the left liberal idea's of 'suppression hierarchy' and following it blindly enough.

How fucking idiotic are these writers ffs. Let’s believe Amber despite all the evidence literally smashing you in the face. Let’s believe Amber who insists a pledge and donation are the same thing. These dumb fucks are so dense that they can’t see from all the way up on their high horses, that they’re the ones undermining real victims.

Their constant propaganda and virtue signalling creates so much white noise that drowns out legitimate victims from both sides. Thanks to people like Amber and her fuckwit supporters, I’m less inclined to believe women straight up, and certainly less inclined to have any faith in the justice system, or mainstream reporting.

Also rams home that as a man, we’re worth jack shit and our suffering means nothing to some people. If Depp couldn’t sway these fuckers with all those witnesses, evidence, and hot shit lawyers, then what hope does a common moron like me or you have, if we find ourselves in the same position?
 
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Sony

Nintendo
The irony is that Heard's Op-ed was in essence true, but the other way around. It's actually Depp who's facing the cultures wrath for speaking up. Even after the mountains of evidence against Heard, people and media outlets are defending her. Imagine if you don't have evidence...

This trial has shown the danger of the metoo movement and believe of all women. You will be seen as the agressor if accused by a woman, no matter how much proof you have if the contrary.
 

jonnyp

Member
The irony is that Heard's Op-ed was in essence true, but the other way around. It's actually Depp who's facing the cultures wrath for speaking up. Even after the mountains of evidence against Heard, people and media outlets are defending her. Imagine if you don't have evidence...

This trial has shown the danger of the metoo movement and believe of all women. You will be seen as the agressor if accused by a woman, no matter how much proof you have if the contrary.

Yeah I wished they would've made that point in closing.
 

DJ12

Member
The irony is that Heard's Op-ed was in essence true, but the other way around. It's actually Depp who's facing the cultures wrath for speaking up. Even after the mountains of evidence against Heard, people and media outlets are defending her. Imagine if you don't have evidence...

This trial has shown the danger of the metoo movement and believe of all women. You will be seen as the agressor if accused by a woman, no matter how much proof you have if the contrary.
It's also depp that was abused.
 

Tams

Member
How fucking idiotic are these writers ffs. Let’s believe Amber despite all the evidence literally smashing you in the face. Let’s believe Amber who insists a pledge and donation are the same thing. These dumb fucks are so dense that they can’t see from all the way up on their high horses, that they’re the ones undermining real victims.

Their constant propaganda and virtue signalling creates so much white noise that drowns out legitimate victims from both sides. Thanks to people like Amber and her fuckwit supporters, I’m less inclined to believe women straight up, and certainly less inclined to have any faith in the justice system, or mainstream reporting.

Also rams home that as a man, we’re worth jack shit and our suffering means nothing to some people. If Depp couldn’t sway these fuckers with all those witnesses, evidence, and hot shit lawyers, then what hope does a common moron like me or you have, if we find ourselves in the same position?
Hey, you could be a Russian man...

Ironically they likely can get away with beating women.*



*Just to be clear, this is not something I endorse.
 

G-DannY

Member
I know but more impactful I feel if she had said it outright like Sony wrote it.
I think they wanted to avoid to fall into the narrative "I'm the victim and I have everyone (media people social etc) against me", that was the foundation of turd's defence in the latest bits of the trial

this way was lot more elegant and "politically correct" to avoid all the media outlets to turn around JD even more than they are now
 

Lord Panda

The Sea is Always Right
Hey, you could be a Russian man...

Ironically they likely can get away with beating women.*



*Just to be clear, this is not something I endorse.

As we know from the Russian shitfuckery in the Ukrainian thread, it’s probably not much of a stretch for me to say that some Russian women aren’t that much better than their partners.
 

Urban

Member
the only thing i don't understand, is why would all her ex-friends and her ex makeup artist lie for her if seemingly they all dont like her or talk to her or wont work for her anymore???

I could understand if for whatever reason they bought into her bs lies and believed her, and are just parroting what Amber told them so they believed it to be true. But 2 of the friends were there for one incident. And the makeup lady obviously understands what fake bruises and marks with makeup looks like.

thats just the one mystery to me. I guess u could chalk it up to the ex friends being garbage also and the ex makeup lady is just dumb?? but idk
Check the channel from “incredible average” he debunked all of their friends testimony 2-3 years ago ! Even the make up artist lied
 

Urban

Member


This video especially speaks about her bruise on her face.
No way that thing was real

Btw this video is 2 years old. So no cloud chasing

Imo a must watch. Plus the last 10 minutes where all of it comes together
 
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YCoCg

Member
Man dont fuck this thread up with your pointless discussions.

Dont gatekeep this thread jonnyp jonnyp
@DragoonKain There is a lot of summary videos on yt


This is such a small thing to mention, but I do always appreciate it when "celebrities" and such show respect to common guards, as someone who's worked in security for years before changing careers you often had people look down on security and guards as if they were nothing but it was always nice and genuine when a famous would actually thank you or ask about the job, etc, all of the best "famous" I've met were always the ones who didn't let their status go to their heads.
 

Zeroing

Banned
Yeah, I noticed that too yesterday. Like they're hysterically deciding to believe whatever fragments support their agenda and beliefs and ignoring everything else.
I’m glad I’m European/Portuguese our media does not care about that and doesn’t try to influence people opinion very often. They are too busy reporting actually news.

I did saw yesterday on the news tv channel they briefly talking about it with commentators. Basically they spend more time talking about how the law in America works and the differences from here.

We already had a nationwide debate about men being in abusing relationships etc… so nothing new to add.
 
This article sums up the state of our national broadcaster in Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-29/johnny-depp-amber-heard-domestic-violence/101093294
Speaking of which, this guy has been doing a great job at looking at media headlines and articles written about this case, and will be continuing to provide a critical review of articles like this into the future. Since he's started doing this recently, he's also been contacted by a number of people who wrote the articles that he's reviewed. It's great to see this sort of thing being argued in a respectful way, while still pointing out logical and factual inconsistency, hypocrisy, bad faith, tribalism, etc. He does a great service to his arguments.

He also covers video games quite a bit, so it'll be nice to see games journalism articles get this sort of line by line examination in the near future.

 
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dr_octagon

Banned
Amber: I'm a human being.
Lawyer: Objection, lack of foundation.
Judge: Sustained.

This article sums up the state of our national broadcaster in Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-29/johnny-depp-amber-heard-domestic-violence/101093294
What a shameful, unprofessional and baseless attempt to characterise the trial as being a precursor to future issues. Do they have a time machine?

The memes being hateful is nonsense. Even if you are not a fan of either one of them, seeing the trial can allow people to make up their own mind. The white knighting for Amber and by extension every women is obvious. Humiliation is going round for everyone, it is not one sided.

If Depp will be shorthand for making someone relive trauma. Heard is already shorthand for being a narcissist, stupid and a liar.
 
Because they have all been lying since 2016 and have to stick to the stories they told when they still were friends, probably because they are afraid of perjury charges.

No one is saying the makeup artist is lying either. What we do know is that AH did not have a broken nose, black, swollen eyes and a split lip like she claims. The makeup artist said she had discoloration beneath her eyes, and bleeding from the lip (it wasn't split like AH says and the makeupartist states, that is plain to see) the day after AH claims the above-mentioned injuries were sustained. Her testimony wasn't very convincing when she started getting really defensive when asked to describe where she sees swelling though.

And which two friends were there for which incident? None of her friends have seen JD be violent with AH. None. The only one who claims that she has seen JD be violent with Amber is Whitney, who is lying to protect her sister according to Howell. The two sisters cannot even agree on what happened during that one incident. If the abuse was so frequent, so brutal as AH heard says, why hasn't anyone other than Whitney seen anything? Why did no one outside of her inner circle ever see these brutal, horrific injuries she claims? Why are there not one single medical record? She is an actress and a model that was frequently beat in the face by a man wearing large rings, but no one else outside her circle noticed anything?

A much better question to ask is why would JD bring this case forward, exposing every intimate thing about himself, having the her lies repeated in front of the entire world, if he was guilty of these things?
Rocky and her ex husband were there for the break-up incident and aftermath. And both claimed that Amber had strike marks on her face and that the house was all torn up. Which police refute. But they stuck to that story. Wouldn't now, when ur no longer friends with Amber....be the perfect time to be like NAH it was all a ruse. To get back at her. But they are both sticking to the story that ambers recollection of the police call incident are true
 
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